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Heard some reports from a tech site that while playing a game at high quality the performance on this tablet tanked so they had to lower the settings to alleviate the issue. Really worried about this since if the cpu is not up to snugg i might as well get the nexus 4?
Fasty12 said:
Heard some reports from a tech site that while playing a game at high quality the performance on this tablet tanked so they had to lower the settings to alleviate the issue. Really worried about this since if the cpu is not up to snugg i might as well get the nexus 4?
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The CPU is very good. The GPU is the best GPU on Android currently but that huge resolution is pulling FPS down.
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Well, it destroys the Tegra 3, that is for sure. But yeah, it's that resolution. It's supposed to be able to handle it, but obviously it won't do it as well as if it were lower.
Also take into account that all the reviews are not running the same thing the one we will purchase. Google has made this clear. Things like miracast and multiple users are not there as of right now and some performance will be ironed out b4 release.
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The CPU is very good. The GPU is the best GPU on Android currently but that huge resolution is pulling FPS down.
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do you think game devs will give the option to run the game at a lower resolution to get better FPS? Seems like it'd be worth it to run a game @ 1080p and gain some performance.
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do you think game devs will give the option to run the game at a lower resolution to get better FPS? Seems like it'd be worth it to run a game @ 1080p and gain some performance.
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Well Gameloft said they will optimise their games for Nexus 10 display. I have no idea what they meant under that. I hope they can somehow make their games run 1600p native. If not, well 1080p upscaled is still very good.
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Well Gameloft said they will optimise their games for Nexus 10 display. I have no idea what they meant under that. I hope they can somehow make their games run 1600p native. If not, well 1080p upscaled is still very good.
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Gameloft did this with NOVA 3 already, presumably to update the textures. As this is not a big job, Gameloft should be able to do the same with their other top games.
(By the way, Nexus 10 supports all of NOVA 3's special effects.)
Fasty12 said:
Heard some reports from a tech site that while playing a game at high quality the performance on this tablet tanked so they had to lower the settings to alleviate the issue. Really worried about this since if the cpu is not up to snugg i might as well get the nexus 4?
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Saw in a review (cant remember which one) that although it is faster than the Tegra 3 the multi core of the T3 was better for intensive gaming since it was better at multitasking, I think they had to lower graphics in nova 3 or deadtrigger!
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Saw in a review (cant remember which one) that although it is faster than the Tegra 3 the multi core of the T3 was better for intensive gaming since it was better at multitasking, I think they had to lower graphics in nova 3 or deadtrigger!
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Hello folks
Some high res games in the nexus does have frame drips or even lags
Such as Modern Combat 4
Or GTA maxed out
So do u think its a software or hardware problem...
To start off, I personally think that the high res screen that the nexus 10 has has a large impact on its performance
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Its not the high res screen dude. Its the kernel. If its the high res screen the game wouldn't run smoothly for 15 secs then lag for 5 seconds.
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Its not the high res screen dude. Its the kernel. If its the high res screen the game wouldn't run smoothly for 15 secs then lag for 5 seconds.
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In some cases it maybe but check the video in youtube of modern combat 4, overall it just stutters
But for GTA ur right maybe its kernel problem
My 2 cents
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Glad someone brought this up. Mine lags in vice city at 80 PC resolution. N.o.v.a. 3 seems to be fine but stutters at times. I tried every benchmarking software out there and they all returned normal scores for the nexus 10. So I really don't know where the problem lies?
Mine starts to lag when the back of the unit gets too warm. Hoping the devs can fix it via kernel or custom rom. But so far though this is the best android tablet for gaming thus far. Gonna have to see though whats going to be released by others at CES next month. I may just return and hopefully they come out with tablets with quadcore exynos and slightly better gpu.
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goodburner said:
Glad someone brought this up. Mine lags in vice city at 80 PC resolution. N.o.v.a. 3 seems to be fine but stutters at times. I tried every benchmarking software out there and they all returned normal scores for the nexus 10. So I really don't know where the problem lies?
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But not all the effects are there in nova :banghead:
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aznmode said:
Mine starts to lag when the back of the unit gets too warm. Hoping the devs can fix it via kernel or custom rom. But so far though this is the best android tablet for gaming thus far. Gonna have to see though whats going to be released by others at CES next month. I may just return and hopefully they come out with tablets with quadcore exynos and slightly better gpu.
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Maybe exynos 5 quad also uses t604 just like exynos 4 dual and quad but maybe higher freq....
Check pdanet too
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edwinpang said:
In some cases it maybe but check the video in youtube of modern combat 4, overall it just stutters
But for GTA ur right maybe its kernel problem
My 2 cents
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The MC4 N10 YouTube videos that I've seen are running the leaked MC4. The leaked version had Galaxy S3 specific settings (Edit: I'm wrong about this). The version that you can currently purchase on the N10 is way smoother than the leak. Unfortunately, I uninstalled the copy of MC4, but I suspect that if you open up the android manifest, you'd see different settings. The leak ran at native resolution (Edit: not positive about this). Based on the limited time I played on the N10, I think the production version on the N10 is running at 1/2 resolution, possibly with lower quality textures. It still looks and plays great, but the movement felt a bit "slushy" compared to the iPad version. I highly reccomend the game. The only reason I uninstalled is because I had 40 hours of multiplayer gameplay on the iOS version and was ranked around 300 with nearly all of the weapons purchased. Unfortunately when I log in on the N10 with the same Gameloft Live account, none of the multiplayer progress is carried over. It seems the Android players are on different servers, though I can confirm that WIFI/local multiplayer games are cross platform.
Edit: I'm completely wrong about the AndroidManifest.xml. Both specify xperia play optimized content and the same OpenGL ES version. I'm not sure where the changes are but, the production version plays pretty smooth. If you look at AndroidManifest files for other games, like Shadowgun Deadzone, you can see specifications for texture compression and things like that, but I don't see anything like that for MC4. Sorry for the mistake.
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Maybe exynos 5 quad also uses t604 just like exynos 4 dual and quad but maybe higher freq....
Check pdanet too
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The Exynos 5 quad is supposed to first be paired with the Mali-T658 GPU, which is similar to ours but with twice as many cores and a few other better things. It also isnt supposed to be out for another couple quarters.
Games seem pretty smooth to me
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Games seem pretty smooth to me
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As I said no effects. ...
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EniGmA1987 said:
The Exynos 5 quad is supposed to first be paired with the Mali-T658 GPU, which is similar to ours but with twice as many cores and a few other better things. It also isnt supposed to be out for another couple quarters.
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Hopefully but samsung hasn't made ut official so ya who knows
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Hi, I am about to buy Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 8.0 Wifi version aka SM-T330 !
So the 1st thing I am wondering is how is the Gaming performance on this Tablet ?
I don't have much information about the Tablet No information about CPU (just Quad Core 1,2Ghz CPU) nor the GPU.
But It seems to have a Qualcom Snapdragon 400 1,2Ghz x4 with Adreno 305 GPU :fingers-crossed:
The adreno305 is a bit anemic. The cpu isn't bad
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The adreno305 is a bit anemic. The cpu isn't bad
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I know, but it should be more faster than a Mali-400MP4 (example of Galaxy S3 4G/Note 2) !
Did you test modern games like Asphalt 8, MC4, NFS: MW yet ?
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Nonta72 said:
I know, but it should be more faster than a Mali-400MP4 (example of Galaxy S3 4G/Note 2) !
Did you test modern games like Asphalt 8, MC4, NFS: MW yet ?
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I tested the 8.0 version on Real Racing 3 very little lag, and only at menu times, never in gameplay. I have also tested in some shooter games and more racing games, no lag anywhere else! Very good for a tablet.
Dice with friends runs flawlessly
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I tested the 8.0 version on Real Racing 3 very little lag, and only at menu times, never in gameplay. I have also tested in some shooter games and more racing games, no lag anywhere else! Very good for a tablet.
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FroznArrow said:
Dice with friends runs flawlessly
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Thanks Guys,
Much appreciated :good:
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Thanks Guys,
Much appreciated :good:
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I'm a little late but I just downloaded and installed GTA San Andreas on my Tab4 7.0 and it works very well. Only twice has the game crashed on the main loading screen, but it always loads the game on the second try. GTA SA look amazing on the Tab4 btw. Haven't tried to max out the settings yet, currently running on default settings, but no issues at all while playing the game.
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I love Asphalt 8 on the T530 10"
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I'm a little late but I just downloaded and installed GTA San Andreas on my Tab4 7.0 and it works very well. Only twice has the game crashed on the main loading screen, but it always loads the game on the second try. GTA SA look amazing on the Tab4 btw. Haven't tried to max out the settings yet, currently running on default settings, but no issues at all while playing the game.
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Thanks, really helpful. Anyway, I will be buying the Tab 4 8.0
RichPLS said:
I love Asphalt 8 on the T530 10"
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Well, How is the gaming on the 10.1 version ?
Did you test other games ?
8 & 10.1 versions should game identically, they have same specs. That said, if the 7" runs a game well (which it's looking like it's very capable), expect the 8&10.1 to run it better.
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8 & 10.1 versions should game identically, they have same specs. That said, if the 7" runs a game well (which it's looking like it's very capable), expect the 8&10.1 to run it better.
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8 and 10.1 version of Sam's tabs always have good specs compared to 7" ;-;
gangstar vegas?
anyone try gangstar vegas on tab 4 7.0?
Well Dosbox is still somewhere between a 486DX 50 and 486DX 66 according to dhrystone which is about the same as my Galaxy S3 phone but that is at the command prompt so neither the extra cores or the GPU are going to be of any help. I will do more testing later.
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anyone try gangstar vegas on tab 4 7.0?
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I decided not buy a Tab 4 again
So I cant test anything.....
runs emulators terraria etc not to bad for a tablet at these specs
Ran GTA:SA, Asphalt 8, Colin McRae Rally and MC4 they all ran fine at default settings with lag not noticeable. That's my Tab 4 7.0. MC4 should run since my Kindle with a SGX540 GPU can run smoothly?
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Hi, my Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 T530 is lagging as hell even on low settings when playing Gta SA. Anyone knows why?
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Hi, my Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 T530 is lagging as hell even on low settings when playing Gta SA. Anyone knows why?
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I suggest you close all apps (backgroung process) before opening th game.
1,5GB + Quad Core CPU + an Adreno 305 GPU should be enough to play GTA: SA with NO issues at all
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Nonta
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Nonta72 said:
I suggest you close all apps (backgroung process) before opening th game.
1,5GB + Quad Core CPU + an Adreno 305 GPU should be enough to play GTA: SA with NO issues at all
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Nonta
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Thanks for reply and
Hi, I watched a video on youtube of a GTA SA gameplay on Snapdragon 400 device. It was very lagging on low settings. GTab 4 10.1 also has S400 cpu. So, I figured out it may be a cpu or gpu optimization issue. God damn the day I bought this unknown device with weird processors. But maybe it s a rom issue. SHOUTOUT TO DEVELOPERS please make roms for 10.1 (aosp roms). Touchwiz sucks. Stock samsung rom is for kids.
Regards and please help thanks in advance
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Thanks for reply and
Hi, I watched a video on youtube of a GTA SA gameplay on Snapdragon 400 device. It was very lagging on low settings. GTab 4 10.1 also has S400 cpu. So, I figured out it may be a cpu or gpu optimization issue. God damn the day I bought this unknown device with weird processors. But maybe it s a rom issue. SHOUTOUT TO DEVELOPERS please make roms for 10.1 (aosp roms). Touchwiz sucks. Stock samsung rom is for kids.
Regards and please help thanks in advance
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Many members/developers would like to develop for many devices, the ONLY limitation is that they don't own the specific device.
Building a software blindly is a VERY HARD job !
Keep checking the Tab 4 forum, I'm sure a Dev will make an amazing ROM soon
Hi ! Someone know anything about it ? Asus gonna release Android Marshmallow on Zenfone 2, and the GPU (PowerVR G6430) is compatible with this new api but do you think they gonna release this update with last build of android with Vulkan ? (Google announced this API will be compatible Marshmallow.)
Vulkan really increase performances with our GPU (PowerVR G6430) :
And a technical demo (real time) of vulkan on smartphones with Unreal Engine 4 :
No, asus has never been good with optimizing gpu,camera
But they are changing , who knows. , well if 820 also supports it, because s7 has it why does not lg g5 and mi5 have it.
Either its quite new to do developers or they aint interested in it
Wow, that demo video is jaw dropping. It's incredible what mobile devices are capable of these days.
I hope this happend
Maybe you can write this in here
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=46&page=1&mobile=2
android lover 2000 said:
No, asus has never been good with optimizing gpu,camera
But they are changing , who knows. , well if 820 also supports it, because s7 has it why does not lg g5 and mi5 have it.
Either its quite new to do developers or they aint interested in it
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Only the U.S. version on s7 has the 820 everyone else will be using the exynox chip
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Exynos is just hyped overloaded trash. No CPU documentation No SRC is worthless to us XDA users. Even QSD820 can barely make the AOSP or CM make work properly..Oh and the Bootloader, It's got a chastity belt from samhell...
I suppose this opens up a lot more for smartphones in terms of graphic capabilities, hope soon I will be able to play a ported version of Star Wars Battlefront 2 on my phone (yeah I could use the PSP version but that version of the game sucks).
And yes more than likely Vulkan support is coming in the Marshmallow update.
hi, I'm very interested in everything about vulkan since i could see some videos about it. But my knowledge about api, android and rom's is not that good, so i would thank you if i could get some answers.
1 - Is this implementation of API a work for ASUS or Intel?
2 - Since i saw that PowerVR Rogue has now SDK(i dont know what it is) for Vulkan, Is ANYONE able to make a custom rom that could use Vulkan?
3 - I've heard that Android N will have native support for Vulkan. Does it mean that if i download a custom rom, like a cyanogenmod, for Android N to my Zenfone 2 i will have the benefits of using Vulkan?
4 - Does anyone know if that Galasy S7 that had 135k+ on antutu was using Vulkan? Because my Zenfone 2 is a great phone and only scores 65k, it's scary to thing that a S7 should have more than the double of hardware capacity that my Zenfone has. I thing that should be because of vulkan, but i need to hear it from someone who knows what's talking.
I hope to get answers for this questions. Thank you all.
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hi, I'm very interested in everything about vulkan since i could see some videos about it. But my knowledge about api, android and rom's is not that good, so i would thank you if i could get some answers.
1 - Is this implementation of API a work for ASUS or Intel?
2 - Since i saw that PowerVR Rogue has now SDK(i dont know what it is) for Vulkan, Is ANYONE able to make a custom rom that could use Vulkan?
3 - I've heard that Android N will have native support for Vulkan. Does it mean that if i download a custom rom, like a cyanogenmod, for Android N to my Zenfone 2 i will have the benefits of using Vulkan?
4 - Does anyone know if that Galasy S7 that had 135k+ on antutu was using Vulkan? Because my Zenfone 2 is a great phone and only scores 65k, it's scary to thing that a S7 should have more than the double of hardware capacity that my Zenfone has. I thing that should be because of vulkan, but i need to hear it from someone who knows what's talking.
I hope to get answers for this questions. Thank you all.
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1) Both Asus need intel to update graphics drivers to implement Vulkan
2) Nope still need drivers
3) This means it's implemented but not compatible with every phone running N version as SoC makers and OEMs need to update the source code
4) Galaxy s7 is superior in any way to zenfone 2 this means gpu and cpu. Vulkan api will start working only on some games if implemented if the devs don't use vulkan api then this means no visual/performance upgrade.
ElmirBuljubasic said:
1) Both Asus need intel to update graphics drivers to implement Vulkan
2) Nope still need drivers
3) This means it's implemented but not compatible with every phone running N version as SoC makers and OEMs need to update the source code
4) Galaxy s7 is superior in any way to zenfone 2 this means gpu and cpu. Vulkan api will start working only on some games if implemented if the devs don't use vulkan api then this means no visual/performance upgrade.
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Thank you! So i doubt we will use Vulkan at Zenfone 2 =/
davidmpereira said:
Thank you! So i doubt we will use Vulkan at Zenfone 2 =/
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Our GPU is fully compatible, it's up to manufactures to include it other wise it's gonna be really hard for CM Mantainers to include it even partially.
Hello guys . recently i just bought a leeco pro 3 ai edition model LEX653 . 32gb version though... the spec were Helio x23 with Mali 880 and 4 GB RAM . but i am currently doubting the spec as the phone get laggy even while playing low graphic game (idle RO etc) and the loading on some game (AOV for example) is quite slow (slower than my old Lenovo k3 note which had a lower spec) . any idea guys or is it my phone is "faulty" ? thanks
You could return it if you can or root it here is some info on that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74777335
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do u think that i recieved a faulty device?
Probably not I would return or you root and get rid bloat of apps.
It will run much better.
You could do hard reset that could help.
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The issue is the hardware. The Helio X23 sucks for gaming. It's GPU is way worse than the Snapdragon 820's. Should have looked at reviews of phones with the chipset, or the phone itself, before buying.
...Is usually the case. But you did mention that the K3 Note with lesser specs is faster. In that case, it's probably just eUI. You'll have to debloat your ROM and uninstall bloatware LeEco apps using adb. Or switch the ROM, but I wouldn't know about that. Look at the Pro3 AI sub section in this forum.
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The issue is the hardware. The Helio X23 sucks for gaming. It's GPU is way worse than the Snapdragon 820's. Should have looked at reviews of phones with the chipset, or the phone itself, before buying.
...Is usually the case. But you did mention that the K3 Note with lesser specs is faster. In that case, it's probably just eUI. You'll have to debloat your ROM and uninstall bloatware LeEco apps using adb. Or switch the ROM, but I wouldn't know about that. Look at the Pro3 AI sub section in this forum.
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even if it bad as u said but i dont think it would be that bad til the point of not even able to handle a low graphic game . well maybe ill try a custom rom . does the x23 have big different with the x27?
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ive seen video review of helio x20 paired with Mali 880 and it goes smooth on heavy graphic game thou.
phone is 4gb ram but free us 2gb is it normal for system to ate upto almost 2gb ram?
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Probably not I would return or you root and get rid bloat of apps.
It will run much better.
You could do hard reset that could help.
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well could return it and get a new 1 if thr phone really faulty otherwise i dont think they'll accept it
I am confused about my phone model LEX653 .. I thought ai edition only come in 650 and 651
Why would they not except it did root or unlock the bootloader?
If not return and stay away from the all edition if you can.
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Why would they not except it did root or unlock the bootloader?
If not return and stay away from the all edition if you can.
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na this phone is clean just my thought that they will not do refund to a non faulty phone
Who did you buy from ?
Telling it is not working right and you want a refund.
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even if it bad as u said but i dont think it would be that bad til the point of not even able to handle a low graphic game . well maybe ill try a custom rom . does the x23 have big different with the x27?
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ive seen video review of helio x20 paired with Mali 880 and it goes smooth on heavy graphic game thou.
phone is 4gb ram but free us 2gb is it normal for system to ate upto almost 2gb ram?
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All I know is that high-end Mali GPUs aren't as strong as high-end Adreno GPUs. Again, use adb to uninstall bloatware and see if that makes a difference. LeEco is notorious for its awful eUI skin over Android. It slows everything down. The amount of RAM free usually doesn't matter, especially for 64-bit phones with 4+ gigs of RAM.
Which game are you trying to play, and is it always online? Do you need an Internet connection to play it?
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All I know is that high-end Mali GPUs aren't as strong as high-end Adreno GPUs. Again, use adb to uninstall bloatware and see if that makes a difference. LeEco is notorious for its awful eUI skin over Android. It slows everything down. The amount of RAM free usually doesn't matter, especially for 64-bit phones with 4+ gigs of RAM.
Which game are you trying to play, and is it always online? Do you need an Internet connection to play it?
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does it require root access? idle ro and arena of valor . they run smoother on my lenovo k3 note thou haha ...
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Who did you buy from ?
Telling it is not working right and you want a refund.
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local company here in southeast asia ... as they provided personal 1yrs wrnty
Well if your going to keep I would root it and get rid of bloat apps you don't need or live With it your choice your on xda.
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You dont need root the device, just activate developer options and click in activate gpu in 2d and you see the difference
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Well if your going to keep I would root it and get rid of bloat apps you don't need or live With it your choice your on xda.
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ill give it a root then . thanks mate haha
Toni Moon said:
You dont need root the device, just activate developer options and click in activate gpu in 2d and you see the difference
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have you tried it ? and btw u mean activate gpu rendering right ? i see no difference thou haha
Are you having problems with games like Pokemon GO? I have a lot with it. It does not load.
artai94 said:
Are you having problems with games like Pokemon GO? I have a lot with it. It does not load.
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gavent tried since i dont pkay pokemonGo . but seem most game does load for me just slower and fps droppin in game