Ok, im going to start not from the beginning beginning, but from where problems started.
Friday night, went out, I was writing an sms when somebody pushed me and i dropped my wiz, i picked it up, to find that the battery was gone, nowhere to be found, i did find the cover tho. i tried to look for the batt, but i was in the middle of the club so it wasn't that easy.. I knew that a friend of mine had a spare one so i didn't worry that much.
Sunday I got the replacement, tried it, no luck, it ran out i thought, but when i tried to charge it, nothing happened. Buying a new one is not that easy when you are in Argentina, and they are expensive, so i decided to jump sart it. good news: it worked, i could turn on the phone, so the battery is fine. bad news: it still doesn't want to charge!
I previously had problems with the usb, and i had to have it soldered again, pretty strong, but I thought that might be the problem again, so i disassembled my wiz. new problem: the power button broke, the tiny, tiny black piece fell off, AND I LOST IT! DOH!
Anyways, the usb is still soldered pretty strong, i don't think its gonna go loose again, so thats not the freaking problem!
So now, instead of the initial no-charge problem, i have a disassembled wizard, that won't charge the goddamn battery, AND a broken power button (tried to glue it, but fell off again and thats when i lost the piece).
Regarding the button, i've studied my options, what would you recommend and how would you do it?
option 1: turn on the phone with the soft reset hole, and remap the screen on/off function to another button.
option 2: replace the power button internal piece with the one from the voice command button (i never use it). i've taken a look and they seem to be the same, but i don't know if taking it off and soldering it back would work..
anyways, that leaves me again with my initial problem, and i do have an hypothesis. I THINK (because I THINK i remember this happening to me before), that the battery won't start charging until windows has started, and the jump star power the battery has is not enough to get it started (tried to tape it and leave it for a while to see if it charged a bit more, but didn't work, the phone turns on but goes out when loading, and since i've my wiz pretty loaded it takes its time to load).
So to try this out i would need a way to charge the battery manually, and i don't have access to another wiz to have it charged (my friend had a spare batt because his wiz is broken).
So, if you have a solution to this, ANY different solution, or even an IDEA, please give me a hint!
For what i've read, this are common problems, so there must be something out there.
Man, that's a bad thing
I'll try to help you as much as I can.
You are right about Wiz only start charging when it's on. After my N78 was stolen and I went back to the Wizard, the battery was without any charge for months... I plugged it and no red LED... Turned it on and, bingo, red LED and charging!
The voice command and the on/off buttons are the same, so (in theory) it would work 100% IF you were able to change their places (at least for me, it is impossible to do manually, never found any good equip here =\ )
With a lot of patience (and a small soldering iron) I would try to take the voice comm button off and place it where the on/off was.
For the battery, maybe someone here can point if there is a "battery charger" standalone device, or such a thing...
Good luck man
hey thanks for the quick reply!
i'm not thinking of doing it myself, i'm not not that precise nor is my solder, but i know a guy, same dude that fixed my usb. I like that idea more than the other, but i guess that remapping the screen on/off and using the soft reset button would be much safer.. i haven't made up my mind about that yet.
Weir thing about MY wiz, at least thats what i think happened to me last time my battery was completely discharged, is that not only the device must be ON for it to charge, but it needs to have WINDOWS already loaded, i know for most devices it's not like that, but i think thats how mine works, or at least thats the only explanation i could find!
btw, i love your case modding concept, and since i might have my wiz sitting for a while, i might go ahead and try something too! nothing as extreme as yours of course.. i'd love to see more updates on your project along with some guide to see what ideas i can take
slight detail while thinking my options.. if i was to remap the screen on/off function to another button, would i need to have the device in sync? or connected via cable? because when i had the usb soldered, don't know how nor why (all the pins seem to be ok) but the device won't be recognized by any computer, usb only works for charging (or used to work, at least, still haven't figured why it won't charge now).
If its only an app that i can load to the phone, once i have it working (that if i ever will), i can load the app thru minisd, BT or IrDa so that would't be a problem.. i haven's investigated that issue yet.
Hey jinxie, how's your Wizard?
If you're still stuck with the battery (I hope not), check this out...
I think this will solve your battery problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4963547&postcount=5
That's probably to work, just be carefull with the battery's temperature. If it starts to heat, stop the process and wait it to get normal, then start again.
Good luck!
i tried keeping the wires attached to the contacts for a while, didn't think it'd work better doing it just for a little and then repeating the process, i'll try that!
yeap, i'm still stuck and i think i will be for a while, i have to solve the battery issue first (would be useless to do anything else if i'm not certain i will get it to work), then i have to decide what i am going to do with the power button, and then i might paint it, i'm thinking matte black, or maybe take some ideas from your project if you have made any progress at the time!
thanks for the tip, i'll try it today and i let you know how it went
development: phone DOES NOT turn on with the soft reset button as i thought, i was sure it did, but after jumping the bat once again, tried the wiring method (not repeating the jump start but wiring it directly to de device pins), and tried to turn it on with soft reset and dind't work, while it does turn on with the power button, wich is broken, so in order to turn it on i cannot have the phone assambled, wich means that in order to try to make it work, i will need to hold the battery attached with my hands, and it is a pain in the.. you know where.
update: i wired the charger i was using to jump start the battery to the pins in the wizard, then held the battery in place with my hand, with a small screwdriver i pushed the broken power button. wizard turned on, IT FINALLY LOADED WINDOWS, but don't rush, i then (with my MOUTH) connected the USB wall charger to the port in the phone, and removed the wiring, i was expecting the goddamn light to turn on and the screen to tell me that my phone was finally charging. I WAS WRONG. then i had to let go because my hand was killing me and it went off
and the damn thing refuses to charge! what could it be????????
2nd update: I AM MACGYVER !
i figured the wiring had given the bat enough power to load windows on its own, so tried once more holding everything together with my hand but without wiring the pins this time, and at last the amber light turned on!!! im so proud of myself lol
SO NOW: device works ok, charges ok, battery has enaugh power to load windows, WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT THE BROKEN POWER BUTTON? i know you can't remap the power function since its hardware, but the screen on/off function might be remapped. soft reset button DOES not turn on the phone, is there any other way of turning it on? or my only option is to take off the voice command button and soldering it where the power button should be?
well, found the little button part that was missing, glued it (yes, GLUED it), and it kinda worked, i had painted the casing already, so i assembled everything back again. i used a folded piece of paper to hold the button still so it won't fall again and i think it was too big cause now its kind of hard to press but i can live with that, what i cannot live with is NO SIGNAL.. i mean, CMON!! are you kiddin me? now that the button works, battery works, phone assembled, and now this?? when i dissassembled the phone i forgot to take out the sim card, so the metal parts that hold it opened a bit, but i pressed them back, the sim in no way loose, so i guess i might have screwed the attenna :S
i've just checked, i can see the sim contacts so... [CENSORED] !!!
also now the screen looks weird.. like if it had less colours, like when you format your pc and haven's installed the graphic drivers yet, 3d effects look funny..
Hey man, have you painted ALL the Wizard parts, on both sides?
'Cause there is one that has a piece of copper board inside. It makes contact with the antenna. Without that contact, you'll never have signal
The piece I'm talking about is the one that has the camera protection, saying "1.3 MP camera". Look at its back and see if there's no paint on a green and golden plate. Remove the paint if it got there (the golden part is the important one, since it makes contact with the antenna).
Good luck man!
hahah lol, no of course i didn't paint both sides! but anyways im gonna take it apart again, clean it, and try again..
done. it had some paintng yes, but they were very tiny spray drops, so i don't think that is, anyway i cleaned it. On the other hand, i found that the antenna is loose on the left side :S what can i do about it?
Hi all, I was going to sell my HTC touch HD to a mate of mine and due to many scratches on the casing I purchased a new case & chassis. After following a guide on the internet, as I removed the screen I caught a small ribbon cable believed to be the light and pulled it slightly out of the clip. We replaced it and put the phone back together and it looks like we have broken the screen as you turn it on the phone vibrates but we get a small white blob near the end call button. It also appears the phone no longer charges although the amber light appears and you can turn the phone on. I think the phone was working because if you press the buttons the phone vibrates, but now nothing happens. Is my best bet to sell the phone as it is or shall I buy a new screen and attempt another repair? its £38 for a new one and I dont want to waste any more money.
Use a program like MyMobiler to check on your desktop pc that your device is working, and that you are sure the screen is faulty. If you really have broken it then a replacement is your only option.
http://www.mtux.com/
cheers thats a great idea.
Does anyone know about why I may be getting the charging problem? Is it because the ribbon inside the phone might not be earthed 100% as I removed the tape holding it down
So this morning I'm laying in bed and hit snooze on my phone not wanting to go to work...so I doze off and wake up a couple minutes later to my wonderful dog chomping on my phone. I have teeth marks on the bottom, but the best part is, she took a nice deep bite into the power button, so I no longer have any function with it.
Now I can't power off, boot into recovery, anything. GG dog.
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So this morning I'm laying in bed and hit snooze on my phone not wanting to go to work...so I doze off and wake up a couple minutes later to my wonderful dog chomping on my phone. I have teeth marks on the bottom, but the best part is, she took a nice deep bite into the power button, so I no longer have any function with it.
Now I can't power off, boot into recovery, anything. GG dog.
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Well obviously your dog was trying to give you a message....
Yeah, I guess she was...
My phone is almost useless now...If I let the battery die by accident i'm screwed. Can't flash anything either.
I'm thinking maybe I can try and pop the button out and just use it like that
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Yeah, I guess she was...
My phone is almost useless now...If I let the battery die by accident i'm screwed. Can't flash anything either.
I'm thinking maybe I can try and pop the button out and just use it like that
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Is the switch itself broken? Or did the tooth just mess up the button?
I certainly would take it apart. Even if you end up with a hole in the front of the thing, as long as there's a working switch, you can poke it with a pen. If the switch itself is broken, it is easily replaced when the phone is in pieces.
The buttons pressed in so much it won't click..do u know of any how-to's on taking it apart?
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App
Disassembly guide : http://www.formymobile.co.uk/googleg1disassembly.php
Thanks man, I'm gonna pick up those torx screwdrivers this week. If the switch is actually broken, where can I get a replacement?
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Thanks man, I'm gonna pick up those torx screwdrivers this week. If the switch is actually broken, where can I get a replacement?
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There's lots of places to get a replacement. Try finding an electronic components store LOCAL TO where you live (not rat shack -- they don't got squat). There should be LOTS, but they do tend to hide themselves well since they only cater to a very specific niche who typically know where to look.
Alternatively, some place like DIGIKEY (website) will have it.
Note: if the switch itself is screwed, don't worry too much about replacing it with the exact same switch. Just find something that fits and preferably has the same shape of contact pads. If you can't find one that has matching contact pads, then you may need to consider WIRES and GLUE.
You can download quickboot from the market to reboot to recovery if you have to, and from there you can restart it. Your best bet is probably to replace whatever is broken though.
either you download quickboot like the previous guy said or you just type "reboot" (after "su") to reboot.
for flashing its enough to only press "Home" during startup --> recovery (power button not needed)
if you phone dies by accident becuase you battery was too low:
remove the battery --> plug in your phone --> insert your battery ==> phone should reboot
i'm not 100% sure about the last thing. pls try it only if you're phone already died and not to test it out. perhaps somebody can confirm this method with a working powerbutton (just in case )
So I got my Note 3 from eBay a few weeks back, and I noticed that the power button was sunk in a little, doesn't click, and needed to be pressed harder than it should be to make it work. I watched a YouTube video that showed how to replace the (outer) button, so I had a look. Turns out that I think someone had already opened up the phone before, as the gold disc part that you see in the video at 2 mins (https://youtu.be/h5s0JX8zrYM?t=2m) was missing, and all that was where the gold disc should be was a small silver disc (which I imagine lived under the bigger disc). Long story short, putting it all back together didn't make any difference... I've been able to use small pieces of folded aluminium foil to replace the missing disc, and depending on how thick the piece is I can make the button super sensitive, mostly resulting in it sometimes triggering by itself, or just stick a thinner bit in and it's back to how it was.
So a simple power button replacement will not fix the issue. Any thoughts on how I could fix that part where the gold disc should be? Cost?
I know I can live without the power button, and that the phone can be turned on without the power button using a trick with the battery, and I can use a program icon to lock the screen, but I would like a fully functioning phone! I'm reluctant to sell this one for "spares and repairs" (as it's working perfectly apart from this), but I may do if I can't get a better fix on it, as I want this handset to last me until Note 6 or even 7 (It's no longer under warranty).
Okay, the answer to my question is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trXlSVER2JA
Costs about £5 for the flex. Looks easyish enough to replace, and probably easier than looking for a new handset for a good price.
Anyone tried to replace this before?