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Great article on AA showing the differences between the Nexus 6 and other devices in the phablet category.
To sum it up:
- The Nexus 6 has a great display to body ratio. It's only (slightly) beat by the LG G3 and Huawei Ascend Mate 7.
- The Nexus 6, as you probably know by now, has the top-of-the-line specs. Nothing really compares with it except the Note 4, which has similar specs.
- The Nexus 6 is slightly bigger than the Note 4 (Differences in mm: 5.8 x 4.4 x 1.5) but manages to fit in a display that is .26 inches larger and front facing stereo speakers.
I would probably say that the Nexus 6's biggest competitor is the OnePlus One. It offers high-end specs, not quite as high-end as the Note 4 but the differences are negligible. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a more premium build (in my opinion), OIS and is launching with Android L as opposed to waiting more than three months until the OnePlus One receives the L update. Furthermore, the Nexus 6 is going to be on more carriers, will probably have much better customer service, is easily available (once it's actually released) and hopefully won't be riddled with the bugs.
However, the Nexus 6 is twice as much as the OPO - $350 as opposed to $700 for the same amount of storage. Money talks...
Now the real question: The other flagships that are being compared to the Nexus 6 all offer something additional. For example, the Note 4 has an SPen and the Mate 7 also has a fingerprint sensor. The LG G3 and Note 4 both have removable battery, microsd support and multi-window modes. Are you willing to compromise these extra features to have stock android?
Source: AndroidAuthority
No fingerprint scanner is a bummer. I use corporate email on my Nexus 5 and the compliance software makes me have a lockscreen password which is a PITA. No patterns are allowed. iPhone 6 and 5S users can use the fingerprint scanner to bypass the password.
I'm considering the N6 as an upgrade from my much beloved N5, but there's two things that I need to see from the N6 before making the purchase.
#1- The amoled display. Recent offerings from Motorola have had 'middle of the road' amoled screens when compared to Samsung's recent amoled displays (Comparing the Moto X 2014 to a SGS5 or Note 4). If that big amoled is sub-par, I will pass.
#2- The camera. Again, this is the track record of the Nexus line having a less than favorable camera when compared to competing phones. I'm also not sold on the dual ring led flash right around the sensor (it creates red eye if you are shooting people - seen on the Moto X 2014)
What's weird is that when compared to the Note 4 $100 more out of pocket ($649 for 32gb N6 and $749 for 32gb Note 4 - basing pricing from T-Mobile) really does get you quite a bit more.
(Perhaps) better display (more color accurate/brighter)
Better camera (16mp vs 13mp) and better ff (2.0mp vs 3.7mp) camera - I know, it's not all about the mp, but the Note 4's camera has received a lot of praise for shooting in all lighting conditions
S Pen
MicroSD/removable battery (extends device life)
IR blaster
Fingerprint scanner
The decision isn't as easy as it was with getting the N5. It's not the size, it's the price. I just can't stand Samsung and Touchwiz, and with the N6 getting Wifi Calling for T-Mobile... Ugh. If the display and or the camera turn out to be disappointing perhaps I will sit this round and wait for the first 64 bit nexus phone next year.
Poor Graphics on Nexus 6?
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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All appleinsider did there was read a benchmark result
Turns out from the note 4 reviews that it handles games beautifully
italia0101 said:
All appleinsider did there was read a benchmark result
Turns out from the note 4 reviews that it handles games beautifully
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Can you please add any benchmarks (FPS preferably) that corroborate this (I mean 30 fps is beautiful, but 50+ fps is what I would expect from a flagship)?
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Can you please add any benchmarks (FPS preferably) that corroborate this (I mean 30 fps is beautiful, but 50+ fps is what I would expect from a flagship)?
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Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Thanks! I will wait for a more thorough review when Nexus 6 comes out. I will probably get a Nexus 9 now as I don't have any tablet, and the 192 core kepler is built for graphics!
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Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Note the difference in display resolution. If you've ever done PC benchmarking, you'll know that plays a huge difference....
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Note the difference in display resolution. If you've ever done PC benchmarking, you'll know that plays a huge difference....
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Without a doubt, that's why I thought I'd better list them, good thing a lot of Android games give us a resolution slider
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Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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No Android phone can top the iPhone when it comes to gaming. That's the primary reason why I always have an iPhone as well as Android. Playing the same game on my iPhone 6 and my Nexus 5, they always look and run better on the iPhone. Take a benchmark game like MC5- on Android a lot of the effects are turned off and it still runs better on the iPhone. Even the 5s had better gaming/graphics performance than the N5. I'd imagine it'll be the same thing with the N6.
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Far_SighT said:
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
Also note that the N6 camera sensor is NOT THE SAME as Moto X 2014 camera.
N6 camera sensor is IMX 214, source: http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html
This is the same camera sensor as One Plus One, source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...mx214-6-lenses-and-low-light-performance.456/
Moto X 2014 camera sensor is IMX 135, source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...MX135-sensor-and-more-daytime-samples_id60299
However, the Note 4 is using newer camera sensor IMX 240, source: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/08/21...es-16mp-side-touch-wide-selfie-and-much-more/
So, the Nexus 6 camera should perform better than the Moto X 2014, while it might not be as good as Note 4, from sensor model perspective.
Then the deciding factor would be the camera "software"
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Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
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Thanks. It seems N9 is the way to go for media consumption, considering it's GPU performance is the best available (afa i know). Besides, N6 price seems overkill to me. They could have stuck with 1080p. At 6 inches, I doubt anyone has the eyes to see the difference.
1080P 6in a foot away from your face, you may be able to tell. But I'd agree that the resolution is over kill. A silly decision. It's just a waste of performance and battery life to run quadHD.
I have committed to nexus for obvious reasons. There are things I get with the Nexus line I can't get anywhere else. I don't want a 6" phone. But it's the current nexus.
I'll wait for reviews to hit (mainly anandtech) and see if there are any glaring issues.
I love my nexus 5 so much I could use it for another year or until Ara hits. Only complaint is battery size.
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No Android phone can top the iPhone when it comes to gaming. That's the primary reason why I always have an iPhone as well as Android. Playing the same game on my iPhone 6 and my Nexus 5, they always look and run better on the iPhone. Take a benchmark game like MC5- on Android a lot of the effects are turned off and it still runs better on the iPhone. Even the 5s had better gaming/graphics performance than the N5. I'd imagine it'll be the same thing with the N6.
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Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
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You can't compare GPU benchmarks done at much different resolutions. It has a huge difference on FPS.
To quote one of your links:
Once again, the Galaxy Note 4's GPU performance line up quite closely with what we expect from the Adreno 420. However, due to the higher 1440p resolution the performance improvements from the Adreno 420 are relatively small or none at all unless the application renders at 1080p.
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You can't say their SoC dominates the 805 unless you do an apples to apples comparison using the same resolution. If you want to say the iPhone 6 performs better, than X you can. But you should note differences in resolution.
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I would probably say that the Nexus 6's biggest competitor is the OnePlus One. It offers high-end specs, not quite as high-end as the Note 4 but the differences are negligible. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a more premium build (in my opinion), OIS and is launching with Android L as opposed to waiting more than three months until the OnePlus One receives the L update. Furthermore, the Nexus 6 is going to be on more carriers, will probably have much better customer service, is easily available (once it's actually released) and hopefully won't be riddled with the bugs.]
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I had the OnePlus One and the Moto X 2014, which is what the Nexus 6 design is based on.
The primary reason why I sold both of my OnePlus are:
-Design
-Signal/call quality.
The phone wasn't comfortable to use due to it's design. The signal quality simply wasn't as good. It take a while for me to drive to work and I tend to stream YouTube podcasts over LTE while driving, I didn't get very good LTE signal with the OPO so I had to use 3G most of the time, even then it wasn't as smooth experience as the Moto X 2013 and 2014.
The OnePlus is a great device for the money no doubt, but Motorola design is my favorite at this point, it's wasn't that much smaller than the OPO but it's so much more comfortable to hold and use. The OnePlus have this somewhat "sharp" edges and it wasn't comfortable in the pocket.
The Nexus 6 uses the same Sony sensor as the OPO, while some people didn't think highly of it, I personally got amazing results from it, especially if you know how to tune your shutter speed and ISO level. I love the 4K DCI recording on it too, which unfortunately will not be available on the Nexus 6.
Also you have to deal with yellow screen issue which I got, I had to put the phone under UV light to fix it, but it didn't completely remove it. And if you have issues and need to do an RMA, I heard the experience wasn't very good. Motorola have some complains too, but not the at the same level as OPO.
I like what OnePlus have to offer so I'll look forward to their next phone. But honestly, I already know that most likely it will also be based off whatever the next Oppo flagship phone is, except with corner cuts, and it's probably going to be very big with capacitive buttons, which is not for me. The Nexus 6 is too big for me too, but I'm mainly interested in it to use as a tablet and back up phone, not as my daily driver.
italia0101 said:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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The N4 and N6 are running over 50% of the iPhone at a huge increase in pixels pushed......
They need to show apples and apples. If they all ran at 1080 the N4 and N6 would run circles around the iPhone 6
Luxferro said:
You can't compare GPU benchmarks done at much different resolutions. It has a huge difference on FPS.
To quote one of your links:
You can't say their SoC dominates the 805 unless you do an apples to apples comparison using the same resolution. If you want to say the iPhone 6 performs better, than X you can. But you should note differences in resolution.
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Actually maybe half of those GPU benchmarks are "off screen". Which should remove any resolution handicap.
However, you are right. I discussed the SOC's themselves and then switched to device performance.
But the A8 is a serious chip. It competes with and possibly beats the 805 outright even when resolution is taken out of the equation.
No mention of Droid Turbo/Moto X Play?
This is looking like it will be the spec king of 2014.
Same specs as N6, but smaller screen (5.2), bigger battery (3900mah), and better camera (21mp)
Why is the OP3T so much faster than the Pixel XL? Yeah, let's have this conversation.
Review after review (including XDA's own) has shown that the OnePlus 3T (and sometimes the OnePlus 3)outpaces the Pixel XL in synthetic benchmarks. Just have a look at this nice comparison put together by PhoneArena: [url]http://www.phonearena.com/phones/OnePlus-3T_id10313/benchmarks[/URL]
Aside from the BaseMark OS II benchmark, the Pixel and Pixel XL, despite having very similar hardware, are beaten in almost every performance-measuring test. If we have such similar hardware, why is this happening? Could it be the new F2FS file system on the OP3T? Or the faster CPU clocks? Maybe Oxygen OS? What about a different CPU governor? But why then does the older OP3 perform similarly?
Even the Moto Z outpaces the Pixel in storage benchmarks. This topic is investigated here. With a different filesystem and some software trickery, the Pixel's storage speed might be bolstered immensely.
Listen, the Pixel is a seriously fast phone. Coming from my Nexus 5X, it's night and day. It's easily the best phone I've ever used. Period. But I can't help wonder some of the questions above. Perhaps the real question is, can we get the Pixel to match the performance of the OP3T?
I own both, the one plus is super nice and thin as far as performance goes there is no noticable difference in speed during real world usage. What i notice and long for is the brightness of the one plus screen is so much brighter than my pixel xl
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But a simple answer would be we have the same processor but the pixel is factory underclocked , you want the same bench mark results simply root and overclock/ normalize your process speed
OP3T and Pixel do not have the same processor. There are 2 versions of the 821. One that uses the same power at a higher clock speed (OP3T) and one that uses less power at the same clock speed as the 820 (Pixel/Pixel XL). Additionally the OP3T has a 1080P screen which will also help with benchmarks.
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OP3T and Pixel do not have the same processor. There are 2 versions of the 821. One that uses the same power at a higher clock speed (OP3T) and one that uses less power at the same clock speed as the 820 (Pixel/Pixel XL). Additionally the OP3T has a 1080P screen which will also help with benchmarks.
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Bingo! Our screen has a much higher resolution. Its not a fair apples to apples comparison.
Google also reduced the clock speed (slightly 200mhz I believe) to help maintain great battery performance.
A pentile screen at 1080p is wrong
How does the OP3T battery life compare to the Pixel XL considering the underclocked 821 but higher screen resolution of the XL?
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OP3T and Pixel do not have the same processor. There are 2 versions of the 821. One that uses the same power at a higher clock speed (OP3T) and one that uses less power at the same clock speed as the 820 (Pixel/Pixel XL). Additionally the OP3T has a 1080P screen which will also help with benchmarks.
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How does the OP3T battery life compare to the Pixel XL considering the underclocked 821 but higher screen resolution of the XL?
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https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/21/oneplus-3t-review/
According to Engadget "It lasted 16 hours and seven minutes on Engadget's battery test, which involves looping an HD video with the screen set to 50 percent brightness until the device conks out. That's almost six hours more than the OnePlus 3's runtime, and two hours longer than the Google Pixel XL, which has a 3,450mAh bank."
Reuben_skelz92 said:
A pentile screen at 1080p is wrong
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LOL there is a phone called Google Pixel.
On topic though, yes I have seen that OP3T is significantly faster than the Pixel and Pixel XL both, I don't know how, but rather than incredibly fast app opening times I would rather take a phone which performs smooth consistently, for as long as a phone stays at/near 60 frames, the better. From all the videos I have watched I noticed that OP3's default animation scale is set to a much lower rate than the Pixel.
drmanhattan said:
What i notice and long for is the brightness of the one plus screen is so much brighter than my pixel xl
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Really?
The original OP3's LCD screen was dimmer than the Pixel Xl and I thought the new OP3 had the same screen as the original?
Anyhow, if you want a brighter Pixel XL screen... then you might consider rooting and then installing ElementalX kernel + the High Brightness Widget mod.
This combo will get you the same extra high brightness as the Samsung Note 7's auto-brightness when the HBM gets activated.
I don't know about that but I do know side by side it's visibly brighter. You can see below OPO 3t is blown out where as the pixel is exposed properly due to it letting off a smaller amount of light
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I don't know about that but I do know side by side it's visibly brighter. You can see below OPO 3t is blown out where as the pixel is exposed properly due to it letting off a smaller amount of light
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Gross.
I think you're confusing a blown out contrast/black level with a properly calibrated contrast/black level as being "brighter".
Contrast ratio vs black level
http://www.soundandvision.com/content/contrast-ratio-vs-black-level#JZuzUY7MzQgEb0T6.97
Yeah, the Pixel is waaaay better in that picture.
No buddy the screen looks great to the naked eye. you don't understand how cameras work, It's hard to show simple brightness in a picture. The reason it looks that way in the image is that it's letting off so much light that my camera settings over expose the image, but due to my pixel not letting off as much light it showed up perfectly fine in the image. There fore proving my point that the OPO 3t gets brighter than the pixel . With that said, They are both gorgeous displays
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Bingo! Our screen has a much higher resolution. Its not a fair apples to apples comparison.
Google also reduced the clock speed (slightly 200mhz I believe) to help maintain great battery performance.
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I don't really think firing the extra pixels is the whole reason behind the staggering difference in performance. Definitely during gaming, but app loading times, file transfers, raw CPU horsepower (crunching numbers) hardly have anything to do with the resolution of the screen.
I personally use both side by side as well. I have 2 pixel XL's and a 128gb OP3T.. after 3 weeks, in my humble opinion the pixel is much better and much smoother and faster than the OP3T..
I just can not emphasize enough what Google has done with the optimization of the software for the hardware with the pixel. It is just the smoothest nicest fastest beast of a device out there. And the pixel flat footed walkes all over my op3t when it comes to battery and camera.. not even a comparison.
Is the pixel XL worth the extra $400??? Depends what's important to you.. if camera and battery life, then yes.. even my iPhone 7 plus can't keep up with my pixels in those categories..
So yes, while the OP3T may be clocked slightly faster and has more ram... Day to day it is NOT faster than the pixel XL.
Btw, I do love the thin feel and build of the OP3T though.. and the front facing finger print reader!
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I personally use both side by side as well. I have 2 pixel XL's and a 128gb OP3T.. after 3 weeks, in my humble opinion the pixel is much better and much smoother and faster than the OP3T..
I just can not emphasize enough what Google has done with the optimization of the software for the hardware with the pixel. It is just the smoothest nicest fastest beast of a device out there. And the pixel flat footed walkes all over my op3t when it comes to battery and camera.. not even a comparison.
Is the pixel XL worth the extra $400??? Depends what's important to you.. if camera and battery life, then yes.. even my iPhone 7 plus can't keep up with my pixels in those categories..
So yes, while the OP3T may be clocked slightly faster and has more ram... Day to day it is NOT faster than the pixel XL.
Btw, I do love the thin feel and build of the OP3T though.. and the front facing finger print reader!
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Loving reading things like this. There is no better source than people that have used both phones day in and day out.
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Just because of this, we will now have a non EAS kernel
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Dope!
Alcolawl said:
Loving reading things like this. There is no better source than people that have used both phones day in and day out.
Dope!
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K, it will be up shortly R19.NOEAS, may need some tuning
I haven't used both however with the DU rom recently released which admittedly is the first time I benchmarked this phone I beat out the OP3 every time. Here's a ranking shot from last night on antutu
Spoiler
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K, it will be up shortly R19.NOEAS, may need some tuning
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You da man!
kkeith said:
I haven't used both however with the DU rom recently released which admittedly is the first time I benchmarked this phone I beat out the OP3 every time. Here's a ranking shot from last night on antutu
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Interesting.. And I was actually considering flashing DU soon. Or perhaps UberStock.
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I own both, the one plus is super nice and thin as far as performance goes there is no noticable difference in speed during real world usage. What i notice and long for is the brightness of the one plus screen is so much brighter than my pixel xl
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But a simple answer would be we have the same processor but the pixel is factory underclocked , you want the same bench mark results simply root and overclock/ normalize your process speed
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Curious, how does the smoothness/fluidity of the OP3T compare to the Pixel? I've used dozens of Android and iPhones over the last 7 years and never has an Android phone been so consistently smooth; it's legitimately iPhone smooth.
I really couldn't find a place to put this so thought I would ask here. On a Nexus 6p currently, considering the Note 8 or the 5t. I think the biggest difference between the two outside of software is going to be the quality of screen, the 2k on the 5t plus the quad hd on the note 8. has anyone compared their oneplus 5 to say a galaxy s8+, and how crazy is the difference? i've seen the samsung's latest phones in person, but nothing from oneplus, so i honestly don't know how they compare. reading pocketnow or gsmarena they seem to give the 1+ a little flack for not having quad hd screens, but how much that really means to the naked eye i do not know. Thanks for any feedback.
I personally don't see a difference in 1440p vs 1080p (coming from the 6P and Pixel XL to the OP5), so resolution isn't a huge deal to me. The display on this device looks great. I'd also go for the 5/T simply due to the amount of development for it as well.
Reviewers always pick on a device that doesn't have the latest and greatest.
On such small screens it's pretty hard to spot the differences. And it's not like everything becomes jaggy and blurry just because it's Full HD instead of QHD.
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I personally don't see a difference in 1440p vs 1080p (coming from the 6P and Pixel XL to the OP5), so resolution isn't a huge deal to me. The display on this device looks great. I'd also go for the 5/T simply due to the amount of development for it as well.
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Rhoban said:
Reviewers always pick on a device that doesn't have the latest and greatest.
On such small screens it's pretty hard to spot the differences. And it's not like everything becomes jaggy and blurry just because it's Full HD instead of QHD.
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These two comments are spot on. In recent memory, I've had a note 4, Axon 7, Nexus 6P, S8+, and Pixel XL, Pixel 2XL, all at quad hd on amoled.. I haven't been able to tell any difference between those displays resolution and the displays found on my oneplus 3, oneplus 5, Moto Z Play, and a few other 1080P amoled displays.. The display is too small to notice a difference. Pixel density is still satisfyingly high.
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I personally don't see a difference in 1440p vs 1080p (coming from the 6P and Pixel XL to the OP5), so resolution isn't a huge deal to me. The display on this device looks great. I'd also go for the 5/T simply due to the amount of development for it as well.
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Rhoban said:
Reviewers always pick on a device that doesn't have the latest and greatest.
On such small screens it's pretty hard to spot the differences. And it's not like everything becomes jaggy and blurry just because it's Full HD instead of QHD.
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These two comments are spot on. In recent memory, I've had a note 4, Axon 7, Nexus 6P, S8+, and Pixel XL, Pixel 2XL, all at quad hd on amoled.. I haven't been able to tell any difference between those displays resolution and the displays found on my oneplus 3, oneplus 5, Moto Z Play, and a few other 1080P amoled displays.. The display is too small to notice a difference. Pixel density is still satisfyingly high.
If you have plans to use vr go for higher display resolution. Or else fhd is perfect for battery life
thanks guys. no VR here anytime soon.
Assuming (and we all are almost certain now) that the leaked images of pixel 3xl are right, and assuming the Chinese manufacturers who started making screen protectors and cases for the P3XL are accurate, i wanted to see how bad the notch could be in real life, and compare sizes with P2xl, so i bought one of the Chinese screen protectors for p3xl and started comparing it to my P2xl.
I can confidentially say that P3xl is 95% or more in size with P2xl, to a level that we can say ITS a P2xl with a screen stretched up around the notch..
You can see in the attached photos, putting the P3xl screen protector over the P2xl screen, the notch is as deep as the top bezel of P2xl, and the bottom bezel is almost identical in each..
Size is also identical, both phones have the same overall size (in screen protector photo over the back of P2xl)
Side bezels are more slimmer for my eyes..
Photos attached should clear everything out..
Thanks for clearing that i dont need to buy pixel 3 this year ?
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What he said!!
This is definitely going to be a dud, sticking with the Pixel 2 XL.
My Pixel 3xl is looking more and more like a OnePlus 6t!
Versus the Pixel 2 XL:
-Most likely a very similar LG P-OLED display (but notched): Nothing groundbreaking
-Still 4GB of RAM: So don't expect less app reloads
-Snapdragon 845: Slightly faster than the Snapdragon 835 in real-life usage, probably not even noticeable in most scenarios
-Supports wireless charging: Cool feature but not exactly a game changer (Coming from a Galaxy S7 edge, I don't miss it)
-Smaller battery
The only question mark that remains is the camera: Will it be vastly superior to the already great Pixel 2 XL camera? I have a strange feeling the hardware (sensor, lenses, etc.) will be the same, with only a tweaked camera app (that will be ported for the Pixel 2 XL anyway)
The more I think about it, the more I struggle to understand why the Pixel 3 XL exists.
It exists for OG Pixel owners to upgrade to.
Phazonclash said:
Versus the Pixel 2 XL:
-Most likely a very similar LG P-OLED display (but notched): Nothing groundbreaking
-Still 4GB of RAM: So don't expect less app reloads
-Snapdragon 845: Slightly faster than the Snapdragon 835 in real-life usage, probably not even noticeable in most scenarios
-Supports wireless charging: Cool feature but not exactly a game changer (Coming from a Galaxy S7 edge, I don't miss it)
The only question mark that remains is the camera: Will it be vastly superior to the already great Pixel 2 XL camera? I have a strange feeling the hardware (sensor, lenses, etc.) will be the same, with only a tweaked camera app (that will be ported for the Pixel 2 XL anyway)
The more I think about it, the more I struggle to understand why the Pixel 3 XL exists.
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Phazonclash said:
Versus the Pixel 2 XL:
-Most likely a very similar LG P-OLED display (but notched): Nothing groundbreaking
-Still 4GB of RAM: So don't expect less app reloads
-Snapdragon 845: Slightly faster than the Snapdragon 835 in real-life usage, probably not even noticeable in most scenarios
-Supports wireless charging: Cool feature but not exactly a game changer (Coming from a Galaxy S7 edge, I don't miss it)
-Smaller battery
The only question mark that remains is the camera: Will it be vastly superior to the already great Pixel 2 XL camera? I have a strange feeling the hardware (sensor, lenses, etc.) will be the same, with only a tweaked camera app (that will be ported for the Pixel 2 XL anyway)
The more I think about it, the more I struggle to understand why the Pixel 3 XL exists.
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Usually people upgrade every 2 years. The Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL may not be much better than the Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL since they're only a year old, but it's a pretty good upgrade from the original 2 year old Pixel or Pixel XL. Personally I can't wait to get a Pixel 3 XL. It will be a massive upgrade from my dying Nexus 6P.
People ***** and moan about the notch and chin, but I think the Pixel 3 XL is a fine looking device. I guess I'm like one of those parents who thinks their child is adorable even though it's ugly as sin...
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People ***** and moan about the notch and chin, but I think the Pixel 3 XL is a fine looking device.
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Exactly - if you hide the notch via blacking out its "corners", the Pixel 3 XL will look decent - almost like the 2 XL. If there is no default option for this, I'm sure that there will be Substratum overlays to do so.
I won't upgrade my 2 XL this year, this is completely pointless. But if my contract would be due for a new device, I'd definitely get the 3 XL.
The Pixel 3 is simply not worth upgrading from the Pixel 2. We get the camera update, same amount of RAM, the only major change is the processor from 835 to 845. Definitely not worth the money, considering how fast depreciation ocurrs. Most of the High End devices, LGV40, Galaxy S9, Pixel 3, seem to be at a standstill when it comes to any significant upgrades from their successor. The. Previous versions are nearly identical, Qualcomm 835 vs 845 is minimal, camera improvements are insignificant, with possible exception to the LG V40s 5 camera system. Anyone upgrading to latest version from previous versions is wasting money.
Hello all,
I am very interested in trading in my Nexus 6 (shamu) for a OnePlus 6T. Hard to pass up the $300 trade-in on a 4 year old device
My main concern is the display, mainly pixel density. From GSMArena:
Nexus 6: 1440 x 2560 pixels, 16:9 ratio (~493 ppi density)
OnePlus 6T: 1080 x 2340 pixels, 19.5:9 ratio (~402 ppi density)
Is this drastic of a drop going to be noticeable? Is there something about "Optic AMOLED" that makes up for this discrepancy? It just shocked me to see a 4 year old device with display specs that outperformed a brand-new "flagship killer" (not looking for a flame war here )
I don't really have any T-Mobile stores in the area where I can go and compare myself. I was hoping I could get some anecdotal evidence so I could make a decision. Any ex-shamu users out there with a 6T that care to weigh in?
Thanks a lot!
shiftymccool said:
Hello all,
I am very interested in trading in my Nexus 6 (shamu) for a OnePlus 6T. Hard to pass up the $300 trade-in on a 4 year old device
My main concern is the display, mainly pixel density. From GSMArena:
Nexus 6: 1440 x 2560 pixels, 16:9 ratio (~493 ppi density)
OnePlus 6T: 1080 x 2340 pixels, 19.5:9 ratio (~402 ppi density)
Is this drastic of a drop going to be noticeable? Is there something about "Optic AMOLED" that makes up for this discrepancy? It just shocked me to see a 4 year old device with display specs that outperformed a brand-new "flagship killer" (not looking for a flame war here )
I don't really have any T-Mobile stores in the area where I can go and compare myself. I was hoping I could get some anecdotal evidence so I could make a decision. Any ex-shamu users out there with a 6T that care to weigh in?
Thanks a lot!
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To each their own, but I came from a pixel 3xl which has a pretty nice screen and have no complaints.
I came from the Nexus 6p which has an even higher pixel density.
I honestly can't tell any difference, in fact the 6T looks even better. The home screen icons and fonts are tighter than on the 6p.
Also if you're wanting the deal, tomorrow is the last day.
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To each their own, but I came from a pixel 3xl which has a pretty nice screen and have no complaints.
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Agreed. The pixel density is just fine on this. If it dropped to 720p then that would be a problem, but 1080p is just fine (unless you do VR with your phone, then it will be kinda crappy and you will miss the higher density).
I came from a combo of PH-1, P2XL, and Pixel 3 (mini), all of which higher pixel densities.
I came from a Moto X Pure and I haven't been bothered. It is a slight less crisp, but not a deal breaker for me.
shiftymccool said:
Hello all,
I am very interested in trading in my Nexus 6 (shamu) for a OnePlus 6T. Hard to pass up the $300 trade-in on a 4 year old device
My main concern is the display, mainly pixel density. From GSMArena:
Nexus 6: 1440 x 2560 pixels, 16:9 ratio (~493 ppi density)
OnePlus 6T: 1080 x 2340 pixels, 19.5:9 ratio (~402 ppi density)
Is this drastic of a drop going to be noticeable? Is there something about "Optic AMOLED" that makes up for this discrepancy? It just shocked me to see a 4 year old device with display specs that outperformed a brand-new "flagship killer" (not looking for a flame war here )
I don't really have any T-Mobile stores in the area where I can go and compare myself. I was hoping I could get some anecdotal evidence so I could make a decision. Any ex-shamu users out there with a 6T that care to weigh in?
Thanks a lot!
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I came from an Essential. No complaints.
My daughter has a Galaxy S8 and looked at the 6T screen and her first impression was that the screen was incredible.
Yeah I came from the Note 8 and I was very concerned... I've always used Notes - and I love this screen. Plus the phone just destroys the Note 8. Battery life and speed and thank goodness for the UI... so nice.
The screen is great! Better get it quick, I hear tomorrow is the last day for the promotion.
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Sounds like a winner Thanks a lot everyone!
I came from the Note 8 as well, zero complaints as far as the screen is concerned. And the 6T really does kick the Note's ass when it comes to battery life and buttery smoothness. The fact that I paid $280 for this phone should be a crime. Actually, the fact that Sammy charges a grand for the Note 9 is the real crime. Do yourself a favor and pick up the 6T...even at full price its well worth it.
I came from a Pixel 2XL and the OnePlus 6T screen is much nicer. Pixel density may be less but you will never notice it unless you are doing VR with it.
Oneplus screen flickers makes my eyes ache and get blurry after extended use. Does anyone else have this experience?
Screen looks good to me although sometimes I think the top half has a very slight red look compared to the bottom half, other times it looks fine and I think it's just my eyes. I came from the Nexus 6P and galaxy S8+ which both have higher resolutions and I'm not noticing the difference if I'm honest.
I have note 9 and 6T, 6T isnt quite as bright and no 2k quality but for a 1080p amoled panel it is very good and very sharp. hard to tell between the two except for higher res and brightness
I came from google pixel ,so the screen looks amazing for me. I use the screen at 75% brightness ,and it makes watching videos pleasant for long duration.
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I came from the Nexus 6p which has an even higher pixel density.
I honestly can't tell any difference, in fact the 6T looks even better. The home screen icons and fonts are tighter than on the 6p.
Also if you're wanting the deal, tomorrow is the last day.
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This was also my worry but I really think the 6t is definitely more colorful
I'll chime in just to reinforce what others have already said. I haven't had a none quadHD display on a device in 4 or 5 years so I was very concerned about if I would notice pixels on the OP6T. I even almost didn't buy one because I was telling myself 1080p wouldn't be good enough. I currently own the Pixel2XL as well and the display on the OP6T destroys it. Side by side the OP6T is far better than the Pixel2XL display. The OP6T is bright, crisp, sharp, great colors, lots of color options to tune the display to your liking, and it is just as good if not better than any quadHD display I've used.