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Happy with the 720p screen?

I've seen a couple of articles talking about the Samsung Galaxy S5, which is rumored to have a QHD 2k screen ( 2560 x 1440).
Just curious what others thought. Personally, I went from the HTC Rezound (which was also a 720p screen, but smaller at 4.3", so a higher PPI) to the Moto X, but I love the Moto X screen. I honestly can't imagine having a screen that's any sharper. I almost don't want a higer-rez screen, since it would probably just be a waste of battery power.
I'm sure there are some folks who are spec-oriented, but I feel all of the trade-offs made by the Moto X (720p screen, dual core, etc) were exactly right. Great screen, great battery, responsive UI, etc.

The newer SOCs well be more efficient, it won't have issues delivering fast performance for 1080p while getting good battery if well optimized, especially if reduced to dual core like the MotoX.
The MotoX screen have RGB matrix so it would have more subpixels than a Pentile and Diamond matrix AMOLED screen of the same resolution.
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I switched from the HTC One which had the most amazing screen. The Moto X is fine by all means though, it's vibrant and clear and 720P is more than adequate. I think I'm a sucker for AMOLED as well, the blackest of blacks, I'll never go backs. I've owned a GNex and a Note 1 and I feel this AMOLED is calibrated very well. Not quite as cartoony looking as my brother's Note 3.

The screen is 4.x" diagonally. If you can see a difference between 720p and 1080p, you need to take off your magnifying glasses and move the phone away from your face. While I'm all about bigger and better specs, a 2k res screen on a phone isn't necessary.

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Yes. Samsung can make a millionp screen and I still wouldn't touch them. Lol
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The Moto X was engineered to be the best balance of hardware/screen/size/battery etc available. To that end the 720p screen is perfect. When the same balance can be achieved with a higher resolution screen then I will want it.
You will notice this is very similar to how Apple engineers a phone, no hardware is included that isn't optimized and balanced. They don't force a feature into the phone for the sake of marketing that really hurts the overall product balance.

The MotoX screen is fine but not as good as other Android like S4. I am happy with battery life and screen on time though so its a trade off.
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someguyatx said:
The MotoX screen is fine but not as good as other Android like S4. I am happy with battery life and screen on time though so its a trade off.
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My only reference is my GS3 and the screen on the X is every bit as nice.
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Yes the X screen is nicer than GS3
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I'm OK with it. But really wish it had a 1080. Want from htc one to moto x and can tell the difference

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I'm OK with it. But really wish it had a 1080. Want from htc one to moto x and can tell the difference
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Really? My son has the HTC One and we compared them, and I preferred the Moto X
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Ya know if the Moto x had a 1080 screen....battery wouldn't be as good. Personally I'll take the extra battery life. Screen looks good to me.
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I have the note 3 and honestly, the difference between the 1080p screen of the Note 3 isn't that much better than the 720p screen of the Moto X. They are both very sharp and as was stated above, I would rather the increased battery life than the sharper display. But in all fairness, I'm no pixel junkie so the 720p screen doesn't bother me at all.
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The only reason I was even remotely interested in the Moto X was because it carried an HD display-size: was AMOLED and was RGB-like matrix. The rest like usability and one-handed nature was icing on the cake. A FHD display is stupid and impractical for most common cases: the rare exception for me is reading textbooks and other small-font paragraphs: in which case, you're using the wrong tool for the task. Get a tablet or the 5.5"+ displays. The only other phone with a similar display is the Note 2 and that phone completely contradicts what makes the Moto X attractive.
However though, food for thought, anyone looking for a backup phone should consider a Note 2.

Yes, because I can't see the difference between this and a 1080p on a screen of this size (and probably neither can you).

I've never had a 1080p screen but I can't imagine anything being noticeably sharper than the Moto X's. That aside, the vast majority of the time you're not thinking about whether or not you can see traces of pixels when staring at the thing, you're just using it to actually do things and in that context brightness, color balance/saturation, and contrast are what you actually notice. All of those are great on the Moto, now every LCD screen I see looks washed-out to me!
Until batteries get a whole lot better, I don't see the point in 1080p for anything less than a 5" screen. It's like buying a 40" 4K TV... Just an opinion of course!

These resolution comparisons on screens smaller than five inches are getting ridiculous. 720 or 1080 really makes no difference on a screen this small. Unless you look at your phone with a magnifying glass or microscope the human eye can't really tell the difference. Backlight makes a bigger difference than anything. Anyway here is an article from professionals that will give a little more insight.
http://lifehacker.com/do-i-need-a-1080p-display-in-my-smartphone-1450793273

Samsung = e-penis enlarger...

I think the 720p screen is a big part of the reason the device is as snappy as it is, as well as good on battery. I can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p but it's tough without a side-by-side. The resolution is perfect IMO.

[Q] Do you regret not waiting and getting the Nexus 6P or 5X

Just taking a poll. Me personally I kind of did at first but now not so much, do wish we had marshmallow already. Oneplus two's build quality might be superior.

I'm selling my OP2 as soon as my Nexus 6P arrives (next week). The OP2 isn't a bad phone at all, but I REALLY miss not having front facing speakers... That has turned out to be a deal-killer for me.
Since 2012, I've had phones with front facing speakers and I thought I would try the OP2 and see if I could live without them, but it seems I can't

I was planning to sell the OPT and buy a 6p but not one person in the world wants to pay more then €300 for it while I paid €450 for it 4 weeks ago. It's definitely not like the OPO, I could have sell it with profit last year. The OPT was a bad decision and it's the f***ing invite that made me buy it. I think my wife won't let me buy the 6p so I'm a little disappointed now.

Technically, in terms of raw performance the Oneplus 2 trumps over the Nexus 6P any day. That full HD display helps a lot in the battery (at least in my experience with the OP2 and 6P). Only factor limiting such potentiality is the damn OXygen OS, which in my experience has yet to gain proper optimization with the hardware, but then custom roms with that are cm based are already quite buttery smooth in user experience. Oneplus 2 has superior camera, and with the latest software update, video recording has been fixed. Overall, in my opinion, some of the advantages of getting the NExus 6p if you are a character with little knowledge in android hacking are faster software updates, front facing speakers, gorgeous AMOLED display (but then again the QHD evidently takes a hit on the battery), larger developer community( I might be wrong, but then OP2 already has a significant amount of devs), and stock android experience. lol

Both Nexus 5x and 6p are more expensive than OPT. So i definitely not regret buying OPT week after release! It was great phone for me since i got it, sure some bugs there and there but overall very satisfied with it. There are better smartphones, but in this price range - OPT is still one of the best.

Since the 64gb version 6p is 270€ ($300) more expensive than the OPT I am not even thinking about it.

I'm very happy with my Oneplus Two. In india, i can buy 2 Oneplus Two for the price of 1 Nexus 6p 64gb. So i definitely don't regret buying Oneplus Two.

Kirahvi said:
Since the 64gb version 6p is 270€ ($300) more expensive than the OPT I am not even thinking about it.
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This. It's not really a fair comparison as the Oneplus 2 so much cheaper. I would probably buy a 6P if I could justify the additional cost, but for the money I think the Oneplus 2 is great

shigi1231 said:
Technically, in terms of raw performance the Oneplus 2 trumps over the Nexus 6P any day. That full HD display helps a lot in the battery (at least in my experience with the OP2 and 6P). Only factor limiting such potentiality is the damn OXygen OS, which in my experience has yet to gain proper optimization with the hardware, but then custom roms with that are cm based are already quite buttery smooth in user experience. Oneplus 2 has superior camera, and with the latest software update, video recording has been fixed. Overall, in my opinion, some of the advantages of getting the NExus 6p if you are a character with little knowledge in android hacking are faster software updates, front facing speakers, gorgeous AMOLED display (but then again the QHD evidently takes a hit on the battery), larger developer community( I might be wrong, but then OP2 already has a significant amount of devs), and stock android experience. lol
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Really? [email protected] i mean
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btw, I am not native English speaker and i guess the topic title can be potentially a little a bit ambiguous ?
Do you regret [not waiting and getting the Nexus 6P or 5X]
Do you [regret not waiting] and getting the Nexus 6P or 5X

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Really? [email protected] i mean
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btw, I am not native English speaker and i guess the topic title can be potentially a little a bit ambiguous ?
Do you regret [not waiting and getting the Nexus 6P or 5X]
Do you [regret not waiting] and getting the Nexus 6P or 5X
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yes, it is still by default in 1080P 30FPS. Oneplus has yet to release another software update that would inculcate the 60FPS functionality in FHD recording. The camera can shoot with that frames.

shigi1231 said:
yes, it is still by default in 1080P 30FPS. Oneplus has yet to release another software update that would inculcate the 60FPS functionality in FHD recording. The camera can shoot with that frames.
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That's nice.
It's been confirmed?

Well let me add to this thread that I do regret it as my oneplus two home button went dead yesterday. Pretty disappointing.

No regrets so far. Google went crazy at prices in Europe. For the same space and specs they sell it for twice the price for an OnePlus 2 64GB. Yes, I blame Google for it, because the 6P is ugly as hell. Well, I don't care that much about design, but if I pay twice the price, I'd consider to buy a LG G4 rather than a Nexus 6P.

To make everything simple, Oneplus 2 has potentials of surpassing even the latest flagships of today in terms of software experience. The specifications surpass or at par with the greatest today. Like i've said, only thing limiting the full potentials of this phone is Oxygen OS. If Oneplus would fix the bugs and stuttering of the Oxygen OS, this device would be even faster (technically) than a nexus 6P.
In terms of capturing images, it can go toe to toe even with the note 5, or G4 (which are the best in the smarthphone industry today.). GO check the reviews with the camera that has the Oxygens OS 2.1.1 if you want proof.
Display appreciation is subjective. An AMOLED panel would have high saturation as compared to the true to life colors of an IPS LCD display. QHD is just overkill, and it is a minuscule update from a FHD display. 5 - 6 inches will not give significant changes if upgrade to a QHD.

I'm quite the opposite. Glad I've bought OP2 instead of waiting Nexus 6P.
Some more interesting stuff:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...rting-spontaneously-broken-rear-glass-panels/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3rwc6p/nexus_6p_back_glass_window_has_just_spontaneously/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cWVdLqXCg

Glad to have both. The 6P is much nicer, hardware-wise, while the OP2 makes a good beater.
That said, I really hope the OP3 has a QHD AMOLED. A decent screen would take OnePlus to the next level.

CrashTestDroid said:
Glad to have both. The 6P is much nicer, hardware-wise, while the OP2 makes a good beater.
That said, I really hope the OP3 has a QHD AMOLED. A decent screen would take OnePlus to the next level.
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Why do you feel the 6P is nicer? I'm about to pull the trigger.

SysAdmNj said:
Why do you feel the 6P is nicer? I'm about to pull the trigger.
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Basically this:
Camera is important to me, you can read all about the differences but the 6P is decidedly superior.
Display: brighter, more contrast, accurate colors and of course it's bigger too. I expect some degree of minor burn-in after a year or two but in the meantime this QHD AMOLED is incredible, compared to the washed-out and dimmer FHD display of a OP2.
Fingerprint sensor on the 6P is quick and all the upcoming roms will support it, while OP2's FP sensor only works with OP's closed source rom until Carl Pei gets the ball rolling.
Front facing speakers. Wish OP2 had something even 20% as good.
128 fat gigabytes. Case closed.
In OP2's favor:
I wish Huawei outfitted the 6P with a Sandstone back or skin. Slippery aluminum of the 6P is nearly as bad as glass or glossy plastic
Acceptable bezel. The 6P's bezels are a bit big for my liking, though nowhere near Apple or HTC
dualSIM! Great because I travel a lot
notification slider
My overall preferences are 6P > OP2 > S6 if that helps.

Hope they better the Oxygen OS and would take full advantage of the powerful hardware

Screen quality vs FHD

Can you see the difference between this and a FHD 5.5 inch screen? Just curious.
Edit:Yet to see a display that looks better than my nexus 9.

QHD and fhd on a 5.5" screen you won't be seeing any different at all (beside performance) you can even test that your self by switching you axon 7 from QHD to FHD using ADB or Terminal if you are rooted.
P. S. Comparing my LG G4 screen to my Axon 7 , the Axon 7 is a winner by miles.

I see difference, had op3 and 1080p pentile arranged screen was painful to look at.
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You will see a difference only when you use VR device.

Not really, no. That's why I don't really consider the QHD a big selling point with a phone this size. I'm not really interested in VR, so QHD vs FHD doesn't make any difference to me.
Arguably, QHD will result in worse performance than another phone with identical specs since it requires more resources. That said, the performance hit is negligible with the specs of the Axon 7, so I'd still opt for QHD all other things being equal. It's just that FHD wouldn't be a deal-breaker.

You will see a difference if your coming from a better screen. I went from g4 to one plus 3 to moto x pure back to g4. Op3 was an awful smudge of a blurry screen , mxp has light bleed everywhere but screen is nice, g4 is really nice . axon looks really good in vids and yes yes yes 1080p is no longer good enough for me.

After using QHD smartphone screens i must admit i definitely see the difference between FHD and QHD. This is already more obvious with amoled pentile arranged panels already lackin density of pixel. So axon 7 has 5,5 inch pentile amoled display, so if be intend to consider as 2016 hardware flagship hardware the only choice is 1440p screen. Really glad ZTE didn't make any compromise in that aspekt
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my s4 with a 5" amoled 1080p screen you can easily see the pixels, on the axon 7 you cannot see the pixels.

In my opinion, if someone can see a difference, especially a big difference, it's imagination.
I can't see anything and in my opinion, people only see it, when they know, which device they are holding in hands.
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Meisterqn said:
In my opinion, if someone can see a difference, especially a big difference, it's imagination.
I can't see anything and in my opinion, people only see it, when they know, which device they are holding in hands.
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Nonsense. I have a Note 5 which I used for ages and then went to OP3 and the difference in resolution (and screen quality) is abundantly obvious. Now sold OP3 (such a terrible speaker) and moved to the Axon 7 and the difference in screen res is clear and obvious. Not always, but obvious nonetheless.

Just my opinion. Anything else without blind test will be nothing except this.
I know this from audio and whisky for example.
People always say that they can hear a difference between high priced audio equipment and higher priced equipment while sitting in their unoptimised living room. In blind tests, they cannot say to what they are listening.
Whisky or wine the same.
If people don't know what they are drinking, the test results are completely different to the results if they know it.
The talk around resolution is the same for me.
There may be a very small amount of people, which can see the difference.
But if in comments, there are hundreds of people seeing a clear difference, this in nonsense (just in my opinion).
Earlier I made a blind test by myself and some friends.
The most of them could not directly tell me the difference between 720p and 1080p on 5''.
I think on a blind test, far about 90% would not see the difference between fhd and qhd on a 15cm distance.
If you see it, congratulations.
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Has anyone successfully lowered their resolution on this phone? I tried a 'wm size 1080x1920' in Android Terminal Emulator, but the capacitative buttons stopped working after that, so I had to do a 'wm size reset'.

Resolution Question

I really couldn't find a place to put this so thought I would ask here. On a Nexus 6p currently, considering the Note 8 or the 5t. I think the biggest difference between the two outside of software is going to be the quality of screen, the 2k on the 5t plus the quad hd on the note 8. has anyone compared their oneplus 5 to say a galaxy s8+, and how crazy is the difference? i've seen the samsung's latest phones in person, but nothing from oneplus, so i honestly don't know how they compare. reading pocketnow or gsmarena they seem to give the 1+ a little flack for not having quad hd screens, but how much that really means to the naked eye i do not know. Thanks for any feedback.

I personally don't see a difference in 1440p vs 1080p (coming from the 6P and Pixel XL to the OP5), so resolution isn't a huge deal to me. The display on this device looks great. I'd also go for the 5/T simply due to the amount of development for it as well.

Reviewers always pick on a device that doesn't have the latest and greatest.
On such small screens it's pretty hard to spot the differences. And it's not like everything becomes jaggy and blurry just because it's Full HD instead of QHD.

rickysidhu_ said:
I personally don't see a difference in 1440p vs 1080p (coming from the 6P and Pixel XL to the OP5), so resolution isn't a huge deal to me. The display on this device looks great. I'd also go for the 5/T simply due to the amount of development for it as well.
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Rhoban said:
Reviewers always pick on a device that doesn't have the latest and greatest.
On such small screens it's pretty hard to spot the differences. And it's not like everything becomes jaggy and blurry just because it's Full HD instead of QHD.
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These two comments are spot on. In recent memory, I've had a note 4, Axon 7, Nexus 6P, S8+, and Pixel XL, Pixel 2XL, all at quad hd on amoled.. I haven't been able to tell any difference between those displays resolution and the displays found on my oneplus 3, oneplus 5, Moto Z Play, and a few other 1080P amoled displays.. The display is too small to notice a difference. Pixel density is still satisfyingly high.
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rickysidhu_ said:
I personally don't see a difference in 1440p vs 1080p (coming from the 6P and Pixel XL to the OP5), so resolution isn't a huge deal to me. The display on this device looks great. I'd also go for the 5/T simply due to the amount of development for it as well.
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Rhoban said:
Reviewers always pick on a device that doesn't have the latest and greatest.
On such small screens it's pretty hard to spot the differences. And it's not like everything becomes jaggy and blurry just because it's Full HD instead of QHD.
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These two comments are spot on. In recent memory, I've had a note 4, Axon 7, Nexus 6P, S8+, and Pixel XL, Pixel 2XL, all at quad hd on amoled.. I haven't been able to tell any difference between those displays resolution and the displays found on my oneplus 3, oneplus 5, Moto Z Play, and a few other 1080P amoled displays.. The display is too small to notice a difference. Pixel density is still satisfyingly high.

If you have plans to use vr go for higher display resolution. Or else fhd is perfect for battery life

thanks guys. no VR here anytime soon.

Pixel 3xl IS 95% Pixel 2xl (photos)

Assuming (and we all are almost certain now) that the leaked images of pixel 3xl are right, and assuming the Chinese manufacturers who started making screen protectors and cases for the P3XL are accurate, i wanted to see how bad the notch could be in real life, and compare sizes with P2xl, so i bought one of the Chinese screen protectors for p3xl and started comparing it to my P2xl.
I can confidentially say that P3xl is 95% or more in size with P2xl, to a level that we can say ITS a P2xl with a screen stretched up around the notch..
You can see in the attached photos, putting the P3xl screen protector over the P2xl screen, the notch is as deep as the top bezel of P2xl, and the bottom bezel is almost identical in each..
Size is also identical, both phones have the same overall size (in screen protector photo over the back of P2xl)
Side bezels are more slimmer for my eyes..
Photos attached should clear everything out..

Thanks for clearing that i dont need to buy pixel 3 this year ?
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What he said!!

This is definitely going to be a dud, sticking with the Pixel 2 XL.

My Pixel 3xl is looking more and more like a OnePlus 6t!

Versus the Pixel 2 XL:
-Most likely a very similar LG P-OLED display (but notched): Nothing groundbreaking
-Still 4GB of RAM: So don't expect less app reloads
-Snapdragon 845: Slightly faster than the Snapdragon 835 in real-life usage, probably not even noticeable in most scenarios
-Supports wireless charging: Cool feature but not exactly a game changer (Coming from a Galaxy S7 edge, I don't miss it)
-Smaller battery
The only question mark that remains is the camera: Will it be vastly superior to the already great Pixel 2 XL camera? I have a strange feeling the hardware (sensor, lenses, etc.) will be the same, with only a tweaked camera app (that will be ported for the Pixel 2 XL anyway)
The more I think about it, the more I struggle to understand why the Pixel 3 XL exists.

It exists for OG Pixel owners to upgrade to.
Phazonclash said:
Versus the Pixel 2 XL:
-Most likely a very similar LG P-OLED display (but notched): Nothing groundbreaking
-Still 4GB of RAM: So don't expect less app reloads
-Snapdragon 845: Slightly faster than the Snapdragon 835 in real-life usage, probably not even noticeable in most scenarios
-Supports wireless charging: Cool feature but not exactly a game changer (Coming from a Galaxy S7 edge, I don't miss it)
The only question mark that remains is the camera: Will it be vastly superior to the already great Pixel 2 XL camera? I have a strange feeling the hardware (sensor, lenses, etc.) will be the same, with only a tweaked camera app (that will be ported for the Pixel 2 XL anyway)
The more I think about it, the more I struggle to understand why the Pixel 3 XL exists.
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Phazonclash said:
Versus the Pixel 2 XL:
-Most likely a very similar LG P-OLED display (but notched): Nothing groundbreaking
-Still 4GB of RAM: So don't expect less app reloads
-Snapdragon 845: Slightly faster than the Snapdragon 835 in real-life usage, probably not even noticeable in most scenarios
-Supports wireless charging: Cool feature but not exactly a game changer (Coming from a Galaxy S7 edge, I don't miss it)
-Smaller battery
The only question mark that remains is the camera: Will it be vastly superior to the already great Pixel 2 XL camera? I have a strange feeling the hardware (sensor, lenses, etc.) will be the same, with only a tweaked camera app (that will be ported for the Pixel 2 XL anyway)
The more I think about it, the more I struggle to understand why the Pixel 3 XL exists.
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Usually people upgrade every 2 years. The Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL may not be much better than the Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL since they're only a year old, but it's a pretty good upgrade from the original 2 year old Pixel or Pixel XL. Personally I can't wait to get a Pixel 3 XL. It will be a massive upgrade from my dying Nexus 6P.
People ***** and moan about the notch and chin, but I think the Pixel 3 XL is a fine looking device. I guess I'm like one of those parents who thinks their child is adorable even though it's ugly as sin...

Face_Plant said:
People ***** and moan about the notch and chin, but I think the Pixel 3 XL is a fine looking device.
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Exactly - if you hide the notch via blacking out its "corners", the Pixel 3 XL will look decent - almost like the 2 XL. If there is no default option for this, I'm sure that there will be Substratum overlays to do so.
I won't upgrade my 2 XL this year, this is completely pointless. But if my contract would be due for a new device, I'd definitely get the 3 XL.

The Pixel 3 is simply not worth upgrading from the Pixel 2. We get the camera update, same amount of RAM, the only major change is the processor from 835 to 845. Definitely not worth the money, considering how fast depreciation ocurrs. Most of the High End devices, LGV40, Galaxy S9, Pixel 3, seem to be at a standstill when it comes to any significant upgrades from their successor. The. Previous versions are nearly identical, Qualcomm 835 vs 845 is minimal, camera improvements are insignificant, with possible exception to the LG V40s 5 camera system. Anyone upgrading to latest version from previous versions is wasting money.