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Good news and bad news
Good news: Just been into Carphone Warehouse. And discovered Talk Mobile do a tariff. 12 month, £30/month, 400 mins, texts and Unlimited data with no fair usage limit. Handset £179. That in my eyes is a cracking deal.
Bad news: Handset looks nice, but has the ergonomics of a shoe box. Does not feel nice in the hand at all. Compared to my HD2. I maybe use to how my fone feels, but the edges just felt too square.
Also i tested both phones on moneysavingexpert.com homepage. The colours were perfect on the SG2. HD2 colours looked washed out. But I was testing clarity of the small letters. Both were identical. Iphone 4 is the yardstick for this and it fails.
So im passing on this and waiting for the HTC Sensation. The look and feel is paramount, u cant touch memory, so shouldnt miss it too much.
SG2= ergonomic fail.
I want to view pages without having to zoom all the time and read pdfs. Nice phone but no cigar, this time
Sorry.
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to each its own. I couldnt stand my hd2 after having my galaxy s for a year. But it comes down to persoal preference. Im pretty sure theres some happy people enjoying there devices.
I agree. Nothing wrong with the phone, I just have a specific requirement to be able to use service manual pdf's on the move so i dont have to dig out the laptop.
Dont wanna troll. Just thought people who havent handled one yet maybe interested.
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Having just upgraded from a HD2 yesterday I don't agree at all - the Galaxy S II feels a lot nicer in the hand. However, thanks to it's plastic construction, there is no doubt it feels less sturdy than HTC's offering. I get the impression that, despite the Gorilla Glass, one drop of this thing onto a hard surface would lead to a world of hurt. I'm not saying that is definitely the case but it feels that way.
I have a FlexiShield skin on order and I will feel a lot more comfortable once my phone is in it. I bought one for my HD2 18 months ago when I first got it and it saved it from at least a couple of drops. Superb cover.
On a side note, is anyone going to bother with a screen protector? I have never had a Gorilla Glass phone before so don't know the likelihood of it scratching. I much prefer touch-screen phones with no protector but for obvious reasons it's not a good idea.
lots of people aren't bothering with ascreen protector. they bring a good point that... anything that can scratch the gorilla glass will probably pass through any screen protector anyway. having said that... i'm getting one. i have one for my GS as well.
as for the GS II i just may not put it on yet
I like the shape of the sgs 2, very thin and light makes it ideal shape.
Yeah, we really needed to know this. Nobody is forcing you to buy anyone phone so if you don't like this one there is no need to run home, jump on the interwebz and make a thread on the forum about it.
I hope you like which ever phone you do get.
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Having just upgraded from a HD2 yesterday I don't agree at all - the Galaxy S II feels a lot nicer in the hand. However, thanks to it's plastic construction, there is no doubt it feels less sturdy than HTC's offering. I get the impression that, despite the Gorilla Glass, one drop of this thing onto a hard surface would lead to a world of hurt. I'm not saying that is definitely the case but it feels that way.
I have a FlexiShield skin on order and I will feel a lot more comfortable once my phone is in it. I bought one for my HD2 18 months ago when I first got it and it saved it from at least a couple of drops. Superb cover.
On a side note, is anyone going to bother with a screen protector? I have never had a Gorilla Glass phone before so don't know the likelihood of it scratching. I much prefer touch-screen phones with no protector but for obvious reasons it's not a good idea.
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Dropped my SGS multiple times on hard flooring, concrete and Asphalt and despite thinking one drop and it was a goner the thing doesn't have a scratch on the screen, body still looks new and works perfectly. I wonder if the SGS II is the same way but I will not be dropping it anytime soon to find out.
I love my Galaxy SII but it seems that you might be better off with a 7in tablet such as the Galaxy Tab or maybe a bigger tablet such as the Advent Vega or iPad.
I personally couldn't read PDFs on a screen smaller than 7in for very long.
This is good info for me. Nexus One owner and I sported an HD2 for a few weeks and loved the feel and size, knowing it had the dimensions of my next phone (G2x was a failure for me).
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Good news and bad news
Good news: Just been into Carphone Warehouse. And discovered Talk Mobile do a tariff. 12 month, £30/month, 400 mins, texts and Unlimited data with no fair usage limit. Handset £179. That in my eyes is a cracking deal.
Bad news: Handset looks nice, but has the ergonomics of a shoe box. Does not feel nice in the hand at all. Compared to my HD2. I maybe use to how my fone feels, but the edges just felt too square.
Also i tested both phones on moneysavingexpert.com homepage. The colours were perfect on the SG2. HD2 colours looked washed out. But I was testing clarity of the small letters. Both were identical. Iphone 4 is the yardstick for this and it fails.
So im passing on this and waiting for the HTC Sensation. The look and feel is paramount, u cant touch memory, so shouldnt miss it too much.
SG2= ergonomic fail.
I want to view pages without having to zoom all the time and read pdfs. Nice phone but no cigar, this time
Sorry.
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OP must have small hands, and you know what they say!
Small hands...........
Small gloves...
yeh I know what your on about I went from iPhone 4 to gs2 and text is so hard to read with no reflow option, but I gain so much more with customization, and the weight is great, the iPhone feels like such a brick now.
in saying that I had a hd2 and really missed it after I got the iPhone, thought I could get that feeling back with the sgs2 but it's not the same hd2 is a quality product.
enjoy your sensation and thanks for being honest in the lions den lol
i do agree with the [OP] regarding the "ergonomic fail" thing.
..and this is coming from a Samsung phone fanatic like me
personally, i don't like at all the shell design of the SGS2, i'll definitely not use the SGS2 naked, it looks simply disgusting... seriously, for the lack of a better word to describe its design.
unfortunately i love all the technology packed inside that "disgusting" shell so is either take it or leave it, and i choose to take it
so the ergonomic fail became a non issue for me, as i'll be replacing the case, and using with a protection case, and other accessories i always slap onto all of my phones; i praise the after market accessories people to make the impossible possible
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personally, i don't like at all the shell design of the SGS2, i'll definitely not use the SGS2 naked, it looks simply disgusting... seriously, for the lack of a better word to describe its design.
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Disgusting? Seriously? Dear me, it takes all sorts I guess and the world would be a boring place if we all had the same opinions.
IMO: I like very much the design, I can hold it in one hand and even type with one hand, it holds perfectly in my right hand... Even ergonomically I like it. It's simply perfect for me.
It's up to you to choose another phone. I would never choose another now. Especially HTC sensation which have many things less than Galaxy S2.
+10 I find the design very nice unlike some here
And I would never change it for nothing on the market that's just a piece of beauty, a very thin piece actually
What I don't understand is the point of this topic ? If you feel it not as you want anyone else could feel it in the hand differently like me. And many peeps have already said they like the feel in the hand in this thread so your opinion can't be taken for facts until someone interested in it hold it for real :/ anyway...
Pitching in on the ergonomics of the device being awesome, for me anyway. If you have really small hands then this will probably be a pretty bad phone for you, since it wont fit comfortably into a normal grip. That aside, for people with average or large hands, this design works very well. You can keep a very firm grip on it easily, and one handed operation works too, all while having a 4.3" screen.
Not sure about the people saying it feels cheap or anything, unless you correlate cheap with light - because it's very light. If this is the case, you can buy a nice big heavy cover for the device to make it feel heavier and sturdier - but that seems really stupid to me. A phone is meant to be mobile, the lighter the better.
Phones won't be perfect until they're razor thin, bendable, and weight as much as paper! And the SGS2 is firmly on the right track.
To me I'm loving everything about the phone, ergonomics included. I don't have huge hands but find the phone very easy to hold and use for one handed operation.
As for a screen protector I will say a big NO. I work for a Verizon retailer and we have a demo line hooked up to their version of the first galaxy s, the fascinate, that also has gorilla glass. Being inquisitive and it being a demo line, I decided to test the durability of gorilla glass. Grabbed a phillips head screw driver and preceded to try and scratch the screen. Repeatedly I scraped it, scratched back and forth quickly, and somewhat violently tried to stab it. Wiped off the screen with a micro-fiber cloth and not one scratch or mark on it, gorilla glass is really some remarkable stuff.
I'm not saying its impossible to damage it, but it will take some serious effort. Since most of you guys probably take care of your phones anyway, with gorilla glass your screen will be fine. A screen protector on gorilla glass just seems redundant .
Problem is... the old galaxy didn't have an oleophobic coating. You try taking a screwdriver to that and the coating WILL come off. The screen will be resilient, but not the coating, sorry.
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To me I'm loving everything about the phone, ergonomics included. I don't have huge hands but find the phone very easy to hold and use for one handed operation.
As for a screen protector I will say a big NO. I work for a Verizon retailer and we have a demo line hooked up to their version of the first galaxy s, the fascinate, that also has gorilla glass. Being inquisitive and it being a demo line, I decided to test the durability of gorilla glass. Grabbed a phillips head screw driver and preceded to try and scratch the screen. Repeatedly I scraped it, scratched back and forth quickly, and somewhat violently tried to stab it. Wiped off the screen with a micro-fiber cloth and not one scratch or mark on it, gorilla glass is really some remarkable stuff.
I'm not saying its impossible to damage it, but it will take some serious effort. Since most of you guys probably take care of your phones anyway, with gorilla glass your screen will be fine. A screen protector on gorilla glass just seems redundant .
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At the end of the day, apart from it going dark. I entered the store but left
The HD2 is such a class act to follow, it's replacement has a to be nearly as iconic.
And only then will I splash the cash.
We are all Android fanboi's so whatever we rock is cool.
I was watching a lot of reviews about this phone.
TheVerge review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=herJmqIGOoM at 2:25, he says that it is a glass phone and he dropped the phone
from his kitched table.
And the back of the phone, near the camera got a crack.
I am buying this phone and also planning to buy a protective casing?
Do you have any recommendations? What kind of casing I should go with.
I have zero knowledge about this.
A TPU case is the one to go with in this case.
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A TPU case is the one to go with in this case.
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I want something that looks cool and avaliable in Canada. I understand the cases will be avalible
few weeks after the release of the phone but any good companies.
Are any of you planning to go with a casing. I dont want to buy a case at all but the review scares me
I sold iPhone cases for awhile. It's going to come down to taste for more people than not, but if you want the most protection, the Griffin Survivor, the Lifeproof case and the Otterbox Defender were what I'd recommend (assuming all of those are made for the N4; the Otterbox will certainly be, but can't say for sure about the others). Another extremely protective option that isn't discussed much for whatever reason are cases that are also wallets; they tend to have a lot of padding, and at least then you've got something that serves double duty. Not all of them are well made of course, but some are. I have no idea who'll be making wallet cases for the Nexus 4, though; you'll have to just wait on that.
If you want something slimmer but still protective, the Speck CandyShell is a solid option; it has both rubber for shock absorption and hard plastic for stability & feel. And I'd guess it (or one of their similar products) will be made available for the Nexus 4, since they made a version of their (IMO quite handsome) Pixelskin HD for the Galaxy Nexus.
I hope everyone gets to each and every feature of this beast to make themselves proud to own when this comes out in March
It has double tap to wake up
Front-facing stereo speakers is a great feature to me.
It's not "delightful" but It's a discovery nonetheless:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t7kaC6Gx8s
Anyway, this is a minor issue for me because:
a. I'll much more likely end up with the black or even purple version than the white one.
b. I don't think that there are many people which would use this piece of jewel without any kind of case or extra protection.
A minor detail really but maybe worth considering, especially by white color fans
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It's not "delightful" but It's a discovery nonetheless:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t7kaC6Gx8s
Anyway, this is a minor issue for me because:
a. I'll much more likely end up with the black or even purple version than the white one.
b. I don't think that there are many people which would use this piece of jewel without any kind of case or extra protection.
A minor detail really but maybe worth considering, especially by white color fans
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I agree very minor, all mobiles WITHOUT protection will wear , stain or have damage, what's new , I've pre-ordered Black version anyway
Perhaps I should complain about my leather wallet that has many wear marks & has become discoloured , there are many other examples of things we keep in our pockets of varying value that become discoloured,stained, marked or worn.
When aluminium gets marked, that's it, it's marked forever.....so perhaps Sony should not have framed the xperia in aluminium....
I have preordered the white one, but yeah I hope case will fix the issue. I like the black one also to, but it seems to get very greasy and alot of fingerprints all over.
I kind like these cases: http://www.xperiaguide.com/2014/02/25/xperia-z2-style-cover-stand-scr10/scr10-xperia-z2-case/
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I agree very minor, all mobiles WITHOUT protection will wear , stain or have damage, what's new , I've pre-ordered Black version anyway
Perhaps I should complain about my leather wallet that has many wear marks & has become discoloured , there are many other examples of things we keep in our pockets of varying value that become discoloured,stained, marked or worn.
When aluminium gets marked, that's it, it's marked forever.....so perhaps Sony should not have framed the xperia in aluminium....
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I have preordered the white one, but yeah I hope case will fix the issue. I like the black one also to, but it seems to get very greasy and alot of fingerprints all over.
I kind like these cases: http://www.xperiaguide.com/2014/02/25/xperia-z2-style-cover-stand-scr10/scr10-xperia-z2-case/
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Yeah really like those cases.
A delightful discovery that I found out a couple of days ago is that the Xperia Z2 phone & tablet will NOT be using the Anti-shatter film on them :highfive: Thank goodness they got rid of that :victory:
blog here:-
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/02/25/no-anti-shatter-film-on-xperia-z2-and-xperia-z2-tablet/
Yeah I know, its great, I didnt buy the Z1 because of the shatter film. So that is fantastic.
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Yeah really like those cases.
A delightful discovery that I found out a couple of days ago is that the Xperia Z2 phone & tablet will NOT be using the Anti-shatter film on them :highfive: Thank goodness they got rid of that :victory:
blog here:-
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/02/25/no-anti-shatter-film-on-xperia-z2-and-xperia-z2-tablet/
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The rounded edges are now seamlessly round and not angular like the Z1. This should make it even nicer to hold. They also changed the places with coloring. Now there are no shiny surfaces facing the viewer which is nice. Addition of gestures for muting calls and callin etc. is also very nice.
I remember when the iphone 4 came out all glass front and back. Thought that was the dumbest idea ever for a cellphone. I've always been one to put a case usually speck hard candy on my devices for that drop protection and especially would so with this device being all glass back and front. Never understood the big deal on what "color" device to get since once you have a case on your phone you don't see the "color" of the phone anymore? I guess maybe the plastic injected molding color might still be visible, idk?
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I remember when the iphone 4 came out all glass front and back. Thought that was the dumbest idea ever for a cellphone. I've always been one to put a case usually speck hard candy on my devices for that drop protection and especially would so with this device being all glass back and front. Never understood the big deal on what "color" device to get since once you have a case on your phone you don't see the "color" of the phone anymore? I guess maybe the plastic injected molding color might still be visible, idk?
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Having had the SGS3 for quite a while now, a couple of days after getting the phone I received a cover for it in the mail and it hasn't come off since. The thing is, with the SGS3, I thought it was required since the polycarbonate would get blasted pretty fast. I think with the couple of days it already got some light scratches. Now with the Z2, I can get a screen protector for both sides and not worry about it. This is by no means a cheap purchase for me and I want to keep it for many years to come but I think the screen/glass protectors will suffice. I never drop my phones and the Z1 has proven to do well in drop tests. If it breaks, I got insurance to cover it. I will opt for the purple one and really want to enjoy it in all of its glory. Are you really buying a device this sexy just to cover it up?
Other option would be to get a little rim bumber protector for it. Definitely more protection and glass off the grass, without sacrificing much of the looks. Some may even prefer it with one on.
Really rugged: http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/hectobylinklum/item/10000528/
Everything else: https://www.google.fi/search?client...4j1.5.0....0...1c.1.36.img..6.0.0.x6ylcQOQ15o
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Having had the SGS3 for quite a while now, a couple of days after getting the phone I received a cover for it in the mail and it hasn't come off since. The thing is, with the SGS3, I thought it was required since the polycarbonate would get blasted pretty fast. I think with the couple of days it already got some light scratches. Now with the Z2, I can get a screen protector for both sides and not worry about it. This is by no means a cheap purchase for me and I want to keep it for many years to come but I think the screen/glass protectors will suffice. I never drop my phones and the Z1 has proven to do well in drop tests. If it breaks, I got insurance to cover it. I will opt for the purple one and really want to enjoy it in all of its glory. Are you really buying a device this sexy just to cover it up?
Other option would be to get a little rim bumber protector for it. Definitely more protection and glass off the grass, without sacrificing much of the looks. Some may even prefer it with one on.
Really rugged: http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/hectobylinklum/item/10000528/
Everything else: https://www.google.fi/search?client...4j1.5.0....0...1c.1.36.img..6.0.0.x6ylcQOQ15o
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I'm kind of people that carry my phone in my pants pocket, and when I do that with my SGS4, it's already got scratch in the back cover in a few days.3 pr 4 days I didn't know, when I look, it's already there.
and also use transparent cover will still show the sexy part of the phone
I want to buy the xperia Z3C. it fits all my needs, has an adequate sized screen ,excellent performance, good battery life etc ,etc.
But the previous Sony flagship phones, namely the Z, Z1, Z1C & Z2 have a very serious manufacturing defect - self cracking screens. the glass panes on the front and the back of these phones crack due to overheating (sometimes without overheating). there have been cases where the owners went to bed with their phones on a table and woke up to find that the phone had cracked. the problem seem to lie with the glass and metal construction. due to the waterproof and dustproof construction ,there isn't any proper heat dissipation, and since aluminum and glass react differently to heat, the glass cracks(in some cases even the display below it). Sony continues to deny the defect, usually blaming the user for the cracked glass and the users have to pay for the new screen(~$200-$300)
so back to the Z3 and Z3C, they have the same construction. so I am worried. if i do buy ,then I have to buy the phone unlocked ,which will set me back by $600( I am from India, no contracts here).
So what are your thoughts on this issue, and is there anybody who has faced this issue before?
Ananay Singh said:
I want to buy the xperia Z3C. it fits all my needs, has an adequate sized screen ,excellent performance, good battery life etc ,etc.
But the previous Sony flagship phones, namely the Z, Z1, Z1C & Z2 have a very serious manufacturing defect - self cracking screens. the glass panes on the front and the back of these phones crack due to overheating (sometimes without overheating). there have been cases where the owners went to bed with their phones on a table and woke up to find that the phone had cracked. the problem seem to lie with the glass and metal construction. due to the waterproof and dustproof construction ,there isn't any proper heat dissipation, and since aluminum and glass react differently to heat, the glass cracks(in some cases even the display below it). Sony continues to deny the defect, usually blaming the user for the cracked glass and the users have to pay for the new screen(~$200-$300)
so back to the Z3 and Z3C, they have the same construction. so I am worried. if i do buy ,then I have to buy the phone unlocked ,which will set me back by $600( I am from India, no contracts here).
So what are your thoughts on this issue, and is there anybody who has faced this issue before?
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Coming from the XZ, I know the stories. In my opinion you shouldn't be worried. The chance that a screen cracks without ANY reason is less then 1%, many times something hit people's screen without realizing. In the 1.5 years that I've had my XZ I have dropped my phone (on purpose) many times, without anything happening. People also removed the anti shatter screen, which results into bigger chance that the screen will crack.
I don't blame Sony for giving the fault to the consumer, it's not like Sony doesn't test their products before releasing them. If Sony gave everyone a new phone after they said that it cracked without a reason, guess what everyone would do.... Claim that the screen cracked without a reason just to get a new phone/screen.
(Why do you have to pay 600$ for the phone btw? You can just buy it cheaper at sites like Clove/Handtec and get the same insurances.)
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Coming from the XZ, I know the stories. In my opinion you shouldn't be worried. The chance that a screen cracks without ANY reason is less then 1%, many times something hit people's screen without realizing. In the 1.5 years that I've had my XZ I have dropped my phone (on purpose) many times, without anything happening. People also removed the anti shatter screen, which results into bigger chance that the screen will crack.
I don't blame Sony for giving the fault to the consumer, it's not like Sony doesn't test their products before releasing them. If Sony gave everyone a new phone after they said that it cracked without a reason, guess what everyone would do.... Claim that the screen cracked without a reason just to get a new phone/screen.
(Why do you have to pay 600$ for the phone btw? You can just buy it cheaper at sites like Clove/Handtec and get the same insurances.)
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well that's some relief. from what I've heard sony have removed the anti-shatter layer from their new phones. as for paying $600, I don't know whether I'll get warranty on the phone in India, if i buy from handtec or clove
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well that's some relief. from what I've heard sony have removed the anti-shatter layer from their new phones. as for paying $600, I don't know whether I'll get warranty on the phone in India, if i buy from handtec or clove
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You will, but the two year warranty will remain in the UK. In other words, if something goes wrong, you have to send it back to them to take a look at and repair Made sure I checked that, as this is my first online purchase of a mobile phone
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You will, but the two year warranty will remain in the UK. In other words, if something goes wrong, you have to send it back to them to take a look at and repair Made sure I checked that, as this is my first online purchase of a mobile phone
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Yeah that's right. It's also my international perchance when it comes to phones, but from what I've understood that if there is something actually wrong with the phone, you'll only have to pay the shipping costs and of course not the repair costs. Unless it was your fault.
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You will, but the two year warranty will remain in the UK. In other words, if something goes wrong, you have to send it back to them to take a look at and repair Made sure I checked that, as this is my first online purchase of a mobile phone
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I always buy my Sony phones outside the US, have had warranty covered in US every time I needed to.
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I just got a crack on my new Z3 Compact front screen without any reason. No drops or impacts.
I have case and screen protectors on the phone.
Ah sony ..... Some things do not change
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I always buy my Sony phones outside the US, have had warranty covered in US every time I needed to.
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That's good to know.
demon_xxi said:
I just got a crack on my new Z3 Compact front screen without any reason. No drops or impacts.
I have case and screen protectors on the phone.
Ah sony ..... Some things do not change
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Do you play games or run apps that are processor intensive? Did you set the phone down on a cool flat surface such as a glass table or kitchen counter after using it? - This was a big issue for Nexus 4 back glass. Cold surface + warm phone = cracked backs
Too bad... I am afraid the beaking glass will break the deal for me. Wanted this Z3c pretty bad
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Too bad... I am afraid the beaking glass will break the deal for me. Wanted this Z3c pretty bad
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I was really close to pulling the trigger on one from Clove to USA and even called to have them do a pre-check on phone before sending to me so I can be sure to get a good set of speakers, no dead pixels etc. they charge about $ 30 for this service
Now,I am on hold on Z3 C .
IF I can put screen protectors tempered glass front and back and put it in a really
good case-will I be able to use it in an active lifestyle in front pocket for a year or so...and be reasonably certain no broken screen.?
There was no cold and hot involved with my phone. It was maximum in my jacket pocket. Really no abuse or other non standard use.
Also I think tempered glass would not help in this case. The glass would break under it as well.
I am hoping to get it fixed cause I want this phone badly. It is the only one I like now for features/form factor ratio.
I wish they get a root soon too. Would like to see MIUI on this phone.
dropped z3c several times. hasn't cracked.
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I just got a crack on my new Z3 Compact front screen without any reason. No drops or impacts.
I have case and screen protectors on the phone.
Ah sony ..... Some things do not change
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Picture please? :good::good:
Yeah, please upload the picture.
My $0.02... I have a Z1C that developed a severe set of cracks. Until reading this thread, I had a suspicion that it "happened on its own" but couldn't really believe it; so I attributed it to some unknown abuse on my part. I'm still skeptical, but I'm confident no outside force hit the screen so I'm tending to believe it was a case of spontaneous cracking (perhaps due to heat?).
It's off to Sony USA for evaluation. I'll be pleasantly surprised and impressed with Sony if they cover it under warranty. One other note: I purchased it from Clove UK, but Sony USA had it in their database and offered no protest.
Whether warrantied or not, I am disappointed by their repair policy. It would be nice to cross-ship a replacement so I am not un-phoned for two weeks, but, alas, no. So, I pulled the trigger on a Z3C (which normally would not be compelling enough for me to upgrade) which should be here Monday. And I'll pass the repaired Z1C on to one of the kids.
I've had the Z1 for about a year. It's fallen a number of times from 4 feet or so on to a ceramic tile floor. I've got a Devilcase aluminum bumper on the phone. The corners of the Devilcase are all dented and chewed up, but there are no cracks in the glass. I just got the Z3 compact, and I'm hoping for as good of luck with it.
less than a week
So I've had my new shiny Z3 less than a week and have a hairline crack all the way across the top right hand corner of the screen and the touch does not work above the crack, no abuse, I don't keep it in a pocket it could be sat on in, it was fine in the morning when I was killing time before work playing games, on the desk next to me all day at work and then when I went to look at it when I finished it has this mystery crack.
I'm sending to Sony under the warranty to see if they will repair this obvious design defect as some of my research on the net suggests they will and will update this thread with the result
Definitely enough reports of this to be concerning....
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I too want it badly
Ananay Singh said:
I want to buy the xperia Z3C. it fits all my needs, has an adequate sized screen ,excellent performance, good battery life etc ,etc.
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demon_xxi said:
I just got a crack on my new Z3 Compact front screen without any reason. No drops or impacts.
I have case and screen protectors on the phone.
Ah sony ..... Some things do not change
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I too want this phone and it is available (cheapest) in ebay India for around 38k, but now incidents of self cracked screens are troubling me!
It seems there is no end to the z5 misfortunes. For me, it's like 5 min I decide to order the compact, then I read another piece of bad news. Then I think it can't be that bad and what other choice of compact waterproof phone do I have, then I read another piece of bad news, and so on. Anyway, Verge reports a cracked back panel. Looks just like my z3 compact.
www.theverge.com/2015/10/8/9480135/sony-xperia-z5-broken-glass-back
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The Z5C doesn't have a glass back, so happy days.
radjad said:
The Z5C doesn't have a glass back, so happy days.
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Yes it does, frosted glass.
Both sides need to have plastic or temped protection cover
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Its normal you hear all this negative stuff because first thing that people do is when they find something negative and see if the problem can be fixed. When the phone is working fine those people dont care to write a topic or comment.
RiTCHiE007 said:
Its normal you hear all this negative stuff because first thing that people do is when they find something negative and see if the problem can be fixed. When the phone is working fine those people dont care to write a topic or comment.
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That's very true but it also doesn't mean that it is not happening often. There were lots of reports with the z3 series. I was hoping that this spontaneous crack issue would be solved
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Although in this case it is unclear if it was spontaneous or not. He reports that he has an iPhone dock with metal edges on his desk and wonders if the phone might have landed partly on it at a bad angle.
Mind, cracks should still not happen even under such conditions. But it is something different than cracking on its own - this you can at least try to prevent by being careful and/or using a case.
O course, IMO a glass back is still a workbook example of form over function. I much much rather have a "non-premium" plastic back and not having to worry about the back side breaking than the reverse situation.
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Although in this case it is unclear if it was spontaneous or not. He reports that he has an iPhone dock with metal edges on his desk and wonders if the phone might have landed partly on it at a bad angle.
Mind, cracks should still not happen even under such conditions. But it is something different than cracking on its own - this you can at least try to prevent by being careful and/or using a case.
O course, IMO a glass back is still a workbook example of form over function. I much much rather have a "non-premium" plastic back and not having to worry about the back side breaking than the reverse situation.
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Yea dont know why they like to bash on sony while it could be a user that doesn't know his stuff. We all know them people at the verge are never happy with a phone unless its a iphone.
well, we had bend gate with an iphone and we have glass gate with z5c - its food for haters
RiTCHiE007 said:
Yea dont know why they like to bash on sony while it could be a user that doesn't know his stuff. We all know them people at the verge are never happy with a phone unless its a iphone.
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Or it could be a real issue. It certainly was with the Z3c. I quite often do not agree with the reviews on verge, but automatically disqualifying something because it is posted on that site is a bit too much like fanboyism for me.
Also, someone who is "putting a phone on a table so it accidentally lands at a bad angle on another object" is for me very much not "a user that doesn't know his stuff". Sorry, but a phone which cannot take *that* without getting damaged simply has a design error.
Lets wait an see. It could be an isolated incident or it could be like with its predecessor something relatively common. I for my part will wait till at least Christmas before I but a Z5c. I really want for it to succeed - because if it doesn't we can probably say goodbye to any good android phones sub-5" - but I won't buy it if I have to be afraid it gets damaged each time I do not handle it with kids gloves.
I'm definitely a Sony Xperia fan boy. I love the compacts. I wish they would make compact waterproof phones forever. But even I confess the z3 compact cracked back panel was not just a Crackgate. It was very much real. I really hope it won't be an issue for my soon to order z5 compact.
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tudork said:
I'm definitely a Sony Xperia fan boy. I love the compacts. I wish they would make compact waterproof phones forever. But even I confess the z3 compact cracked back panel was not just a Crackgate. It was very much real. I really hope it won't be an issue for my soon to order z5 compact.
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new one still seem waterproof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2jSk_5uKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEpNfOZ_vx4
And i got my z5c today to replace my z3c and i love it! The fingerprint scanner is such a win!
Well I just absolutely annihilated the backing on my two week old z5c.
Carrying boxes, slipped from thigh height onto cement and now looks like a bomb site.
Spiderweb cracks across half the back, glass splinters coming out everywhere.
I know concrete = bad but at least my RAZR m I'm writing from survived that for over a year, including concrete drops, before I put a case on it.
But Christ that back glass is anything but tough.
For the love of god either have insurance or put a case on it. This phone is slippery in any circumstance and one hard surface will ruin your day.
Hoping Sony will be helpful with repairs when I call tomorrow.
Love my phone, hate that they made it this fragile
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Well I just absolutely annihilated the backing on my two week old z5c.
Carrying boxes, slipped from thigh height onto cement and now looks like a bomb site.
Spiderweb cracks across half the back, glass splinters coming out everywhere.
I know concrete = bad but at least my RAZR m I'm writing from survived that for over a year, including concrete drops, before I put a case on it.
But Christ that back glass is anything but tough.
For the love of god either have insurance or put a case on it. This phone is slippery in any circumstance and one hard surface will ruin your day.
Hoping Sony will be helpful with repairs when I call tomorrow.
Love my phone, hate that they made it this fragile
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be happy its just the back tho because the back is easy to replace.
My z5c back just broke.
Took it in my hand. Did nothing.
Heard a click and there it was.
The upside of glass its alot more scratch resistance from plastic even from aluminium
the down side is more sensitive to high heat\cold changes and hits can stutter it more easily
i'vgot silicon case
Well, my Z5C back glass is now a spiderweb of shattered lines. Questions:
1. Where exactly can I get my hands on the original Sony back cover? Even though I am willing to pay Sony in the US to have it replaced, they are telling me they don't have availability to perform out-of-warranty work. They'll call me when they have availability. (Huh?!?)
2. Is the glass back itself part of the waterproofing membrane? When I watched the tear down video of the Z5C, it appears that there is a plastic membrane on the inside surface of the glass back. My basic inquiry is if the shattered back glass in itself renders the phone non-waterproof, or if it is still waterproof?
Thanks!
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Well, my Z5C back glass is now a spiderweb of shattered lines. Questions:
1. Where exactly can I get my hands on the original Sony back cover? Even though I am willing to pay Sony in the US to have it replaced, they are telling me they don't have availability to perform out-of-warranty work. They'll call me when they have availability. (Huh?!?)
2. Is the glass back itself part of the waterproofing membrane? When I watched the tear down video of the Z5C, it appears that there is a plastic membrane on the inside surface of the glass back. My basic inquiry is if the shattered back glass in itself renders the phone non-waterproof, or if it is still waterproof?
Thanks!
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1. Try Ebay. In europe they are around 10€, much cheaper if you order them from china, however i don't think they are all original. Look for the SONY logo in the middle of the glas.
2. I would say yes. The membrane you saw is probably the adhesive of the back panel https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact-Back-Cover-Adhesive/IF312-102 if the glas is broken inside the adhesive it should be no more waterproof.
However you can test it by yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/water-resistant-waterproofing-testing-t3463969
Gewiz said:
1. Try Ebay. In europe they are around 10€, much cheaper if you order them from china, however i don't think they are all original. Look for the SONY logo in the middle of the glas.
2. I would say yes. The membrane you saw is probably the adhesive of the back panel https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact-Back-Cover-Adhesive/IF312-102 if the glas is broken inside the adhesive it should be no more waterproof.
However you can test it by yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/water-resistant-waterproofing-testing-t3463969
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Thanks, but I am afraid to order from eBay, because based on seller reviews, there were many people complaining that they either did not get the item after purchase, or the NFC won't work. Many of the sellers blur/censor out the Sony mark. Not quite sure why, but it makes me think that these are not original items.
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Thanks, but I am afraid to order from eBay, because based on seller reviews, there were many people complaining that they either did not get the item after purchase, or the NFC won't work. Many of the sellers blur/censor out the Sony mark. Not quite sure why, but it makes me think that these are not original items.
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Never had problems on ebay, sometimes on aliexpress. But till now, everytime when the order didn't arrive, i got a full refund without any problem. So i think it worth a try.
Of course when a seller blur out the logo its normally a bad sign and i would look for another dealer.