Is it possible to port Moto Display to custom roms?? Or is it some proprietary code that is illegal to share?
I've noticed some roms in Moto X forums with this enabled but most seem like stock modded roms instead of being built from stuff like CM.
Also what significant battery difference does it make when comparing Ambient Display on custom roms to the stock Moto Display??
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Will Active Display from the Moto Suite still work once the Moto X Pure is rooted? I know with using certain ROMs you lose this feature...
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Rooting would not break anything except for Android Pay (due to security concerns). Flashing a ROM depends on the features of the ROM. CM and AOSP based ROMs would lack any Moto features like Moto Voice and Active Display but often substitute "stock android" features like Ambient Display instead.
Hey everyone. After noticing that Moto X Style (Pure) is getting a lot of new ROM's of different base I am starting to be curious .
What is the best advantages and disadvantages of all bases: stock, CyanogenMod, AOSP, AOKP?
I will try to flash some of them, but right now I don't have time to experiment, so I created thread for this question.
Earlier I was Samsung Galaxy S3 proud owner, but after experience with TouchLAG, ou sorry, TouchWiz, I tried a lot of bases, but the main disadvantage of all but stock ROM's was that all "drivers" for my device was gone! - camera quality and speed, audio loudness and quality, screen colours, battery life, and other features was gone. Also battery life on outher ROM's is not so good, and a lot of bluetooth wakelocks was coming to. The main advantage of custom ROM's was speed and ability to modify everything!
So now, I am looking for answer, what will I loose after installing custom ROM to my device.
1) I suppose that Moto features like moto display and all gesture controls will be gone? But is it possible to add ambient display to work with IR sensors of Moto?
2) After my Galaxy S3 experience, I am curious will I loose my camera quality, audio, and other? Will it loose some of its juice?
I am TruPureXMM and Frakenclark user with Xposed (GravityBox) and other stuff, so basically I have all functions that I want, but, maybe with custom ROMS its possible to gain some battery life and some perfomance.
Feel free to write comments, I want to know what is your experience with custom ROM's, what did you like, what not!
So I'm new to rooting my Pure (not in general, been rooting forever) and I just installed AICP and have a few questions.
I realized right away there is no active display (Moto display? is there a difference?) which I'm guessing is due to the fact that AICP is an AOSP-based rom, which after some searching, I'm finding is incompatible with non-stock roms. This is new to me as I thought Moto's stock firmware WAS AOSP to begin with.
Basically, first of all, what's the major differences between moto's stock FW and AOSP? I'm coming from an LG G2 and a Galaxy S3 before that so I knew those systems were heavily modified and skinned by the manufacturer, but I was under the impression that the moto X was as close to AOSP as you could get - but apparently not *the same thing*.
And, if I can't get moto/active display on AOSP, is there a good alternative? I tried enabling ambient display but it doesn't work at all for some reason. Also if AOSP roms are fundamentally different from stock, does that mean there's some way I can enable DT2W somehow? That was probably my favorite feature of LG's phones and while the moto display didn't fully scratch that itch, I got used to it enough while I was unrooted. If none of this is possible, should I just use a stock ROM? What will I be losing (or unwillingly gaining, through bloatware I guess) by not going the AOSP route?
EDIT: I should probably add that I just disable the lock screen entirely. Hence why I really like being able to just DT2W or wave and swipe to get into the phone. Additionally I never really cared about the battery drain because I always carry a little Anker portable battery with me.
Stock 6.0.1 with franken is the best option. I like aosp but they just can't get it up to par with stock yet.
Your right that the MXPE is not the same as AOSP, but it is very close. Appearance wise, no difference except for some settings items and a few apps. I would recommend sticking with modified stock ROMs. Fewer issues with drivers.
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What's reason behind the Moto camera not working properly on custom ROM as it works on Stock. Can we hope there will a custom ROM in future which will support Moto camera??
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In my experience, InvictaOS works with the Moto camera from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/stock-camera-t3540473 without requiring any further modifications. I've been able to use video, professional mode and slow motion without issue, and links to Google Photos nicely. Your experience may vary. For point and shoot, the ported HTC camera is very quick too:https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/los-aosp-base-temporal-fix-camera-t3574480
As for your other question, I imagine stock apps have had issues running on some custom ROMs because of differences in the backend camera support of the stock ROM with the custom ROM and/or the proprietary software used in the stock. I also imagine for some custom ROMs, getting one camera app to behave properly isn't a high priority compared to security and general fixes/features for the rest of the ROM, especially given the wealth of camera apps on the market.
Is there a possibility of porting the stock PIE rom from either G7 or other Moto phones down to the G5 plus? I don't care if it is 32 bit or 64 bit. Would not it be awesome to the stability of stock plus the sweetness of PIE?
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Is there a possibility of porting the stock PIE rom from either G7 or other Moto phones down to the G5 plus? I don't care if it is 32 bit or 64 bit. Would not it be awesome to the stability of stock plus the sweetness of PIE?
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I don't think so. There's a ***load of custom Pie ROMs out there, stock like, pixel like and what else you want. They're all based on the kernel source of the Moto G5+. A Moto G7 is a completely different device and porting that software would be inefficient and almost impossible.
Also I don't see any advantage in doing something like this, the difference between a G5 and a G7 is 90% hardware, not software.
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Why would they waste so much of their time when there are **** load of pie roms out there. Android q is around the corner.
If they have time They will do bringing up of q. Why waste time on this??
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Why would they waste so much of their time when there are **** load of pie roms out there. Android q is around the corner.
If they have time They will do bringing up of q. Why waste time on this??
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I say why not? With so much overload of PIE roms for the G5 plus all over with major issues like low in-call volume, low media volumes, the "hyped Gcam" not able to take decent nonstuttering videos, would it not be prudent to have a stock PIE rom ported from either the G7 or G7 power which would definitely work out in terms of better performance for our G5 plus?
Do they even have custom ROMs for the g7 yet?
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I say why not? With so much overload of PIE roms for the G5 plus all over with major issues like low in-call volume, low media volumes, the "hyped Gcam" not able to take decent nonstuttering videos, would it not be prudent to have a stock PIE rom ported from either the G7 or G7 power which would definitely work out in terms of better performance for our G5 plus?
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That's your opinion. These are not major issue in most people's eye. If you consider this things issue no one is forcing you to you use custom roms. Most of the users including myself don't mind these things.
That's your opinion that stock is better most of the people and devs don't share your opinion.
Second most of the devs and users don't want to use stock Android. When devs themselves don't want to use stock why would they try to port it. As it's just a hobby as most of the devs are collage / school students they do it as their hobby. They won't develop something which they don't use.
Third it's waste of time and energy most people want to use latest android in their limited budget. When q is around the corner no one waste that much of a time in this.
And last at littery require lots of work which is not feasible.
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[...]major issues like low in-call volume, low media volumes[..]
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Not a major issue. It would be a major issue if you couldn't hear anything.
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[...]the "hyped Gcam" not able to take decent nonstuttering videos[...]
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I think that it is 'hyped' for a reason. And, as far as I can tell, ported apps tend to show more problems. There are many options around that could probably take better, 'nonstuttering' videos, you can go ahead and try to find one that suits you.
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[...]would it not be prudent to have a stock PIE rom ported from either the G7 or G7 power which would definitely work out in terms of better performance for our G5 plus?
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Porting can lead to many, many bugs. Its not like you could just copy and paste and call it a day. Lot of work has to be done. If nobody did it yet is probably because either there is no reason (eg there is already a stock version, many custom ROMs available, etc) or because it would require so much work that it isn't worth it.
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Is there a possibility of porting the stock PIE rom from either G7 or other Moto phones down to the G5 plus? I don't care if it is 32 bit or 64 bit. Would not it be awesome to the stability of stock plus the sweetness of PIE?
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Now that i bought moto one power after using stock android pie now i get what you were trying to say. Its lot better experience overall. Because its android one phone it has all pie goodness like app actions , slices , digital wallbeing , proper pie recents with search bar and predictive apps in recent apps with moto goodness like moto display , chop chop . Twist to camera.
I never new what i was missing.
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I say why not? With so much overload of PIE roms for the G5 plus all over with major issues like low in-call volume, low media volumes, the "hyped Gcam" not able to take decent nonstuttering videos, would it not be prudent to have a stock PIE rom ported from either the G7 or G7 power which would definitely work out in terms of better performance for our G5 plus?
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My main complaint with stock ROMs when compared to customs ROMs on all of the Moto phones I have owned (5 of them) is bloat. Secondly, performance and battery life tend to be sub-par. I have tried several custom ROMs on my G5+ and they all have pros and cons. That said, I recently settled on ArrowOS Pie with Opengapps pico and am quite satisfied. It has great performance and battery life without any of the apps I don't need or want. Furthermore I don't see any of the issues you mention above. Finally, the camera works well and doesn't have the lag seen in other versions. Give it a try! :good: