Hey everyone. After noticing that Moto X Style (Pure) is getting a lot of new ROM's of different base I am starting to be curious .
What is the best advantages and disadvantages of all bases: stock, CyanogenMod, AOSP, AOKP?
I will try to flash some of them, but right now I don't have time to experiment, so I created thread for this question.
Earlier I was Samsung Galaxy S3 proud owner, but after experience with TouchLAG, ou sorry, TouchWiz, I tried a lot of bases, but the main disadvantage of all but stock ROM's was that all "drivers" for my device was gone! - camera quality and speed, audio loudness and quality, screen colours, battery life, and other features was gone. Also battery life on outher ROM's is not so good, and a lot of bluetooth wakelocks was coming to. The main advantage of custom ROM's was speed and ability to modify everything!
So now, I am looking for answer, what will I loose after installing custom ROM to my device.
1) I suppose that Moto features like moto display and all gesture controls will be gone? But is it possible to add ambient display to work with IR sensors of Moto?
2) After my Galaxy S3 experience, I am curious will I loose my camera quality, audio, and other? Will it loose some of its juice?
I am TruPureXMM and Frakenclark user with Xposed (GravityBox) and other stuff, so basically I have all functions that I want, but, maybe with custom ROMS its possible to gain some battery life and some perfomance.
Feel free to write comments, I want to know what is your experience with custom ROM's, what did you like, what not!
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Howdy,
I've just rooted my snapdragon note 4 and I'm now trying to decide between the many great look custom ROMS available.
I prefer something that is close to stock so I don't loose the access to the features unique to the Note 4 but at the same time I like additions that make the device faster, better battery and more functional. A ROM with enhanced audio features would be useful as well.
CM12 looks good but it sounds like the camera issues have not been resolved and I would miss some of the S-pen features.
What custom ROM do you guys use or recommend?
Thanks.
Hi guys,
I am new in xda. I was searching a good bugless rom with support xposed.
I am using note 3 n9005. 32 gb. lollipop. Thanks in advanced.
Mr:L said:
Hi guys,
I am new in xda. I was searching a good bugless rom with support xposed.
I am using note 3 n9005. 32 gb. lollipop. Thanks in advanced.
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? rom is best
Stay with stock rom because customized roms cuts a lot of samsung functions like spen and gestures goodies
Mr:L said:
Hi guys,
I am new in xda. I was searching a good bugless rom with support xposed.
I am using note 3 n9005. 32 gb. lollipop. Thanks in advanced.
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Welcome to XDA.
I suggest you enter the development section and do like most of us - flash like a maniac until you find a ROM that suits your needs, looks the way you want, feels the way you want.
Still, let me sum it up. These are the main categories of ROMs for our beloved N9005:
1. TouchWiz ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on the official firmware that Samsung released for our phones. They keep between most and all features and apps that are originally offered by Samsung, and then some extras like even better battery life, slightly better camera shots with higher quality, to some small extent they're themed.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Stable.
+ Good battery life.
+ All the functionality is kept.
Cons:
- In my opinion, while quite functional, TouchWiz is ugly as hell.
- Can be somewhat laggy at times.
- You can't mod as much as you want to.
2. AOSP ROMs.?
Those are ROMs based on the Android Open Source Project. Basically, these ROMs turn your device into a Nexus device and strive to bring the pure Android experience. Those ROMs are fast as hell, responsive, and very, VERY easily modified. On the other hand, those are ROMs made by enthusiasts, in some cases professional developers. Still, ROMs that are made from the ground up, and are largely still works in progress.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Your phone running an AOSP ROM will be way faster than TouchWiz.
+ NO bloatware. I mean, all that Samsung bulls**t like ChatOn, Samsung Hub/Apps/Link/Group Play/Trip Advisor and some 20 others are NOT present on AOSP ROMs.
+ Much more open to modifications, including the way even non-system apps look. Like, you can have a dark themed Facebook and Instagram and whatever you use.
Cons:
- Battery life on those ROMs is generally not as good as on TouchWiz.
- While the phone is way faster, the camera experience is also not as good as on TouchWiz. The camera starts quite slowly and while the shots it takes are not bad, those taken on TouchWiz are visibly better.
- Like I said above, those ROMs are works in progress and may have bugs and while most of them are with status Stable by now and most major bugs are not present anymore, there might still be some annoyances.
3. Ported ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on firmwares originally made for other devices, in our case mostly other Samsung devices. The Note 4 (soon Note 5) and S6 have functionality not present even on stock ROMs, like the Galaxy S6's Theme Store. That way with a ported ROM you have access to that functionality while keeping all of the original functionality.
Pros:
+ Added even more functions.
+ With ported ROMs you can experience to an extent new devices without actually having to buy them.
Cons:
- Might be buggy. Making another phone's firmware work on yours is no easy task.
- Battery life might be strange. Good on some days and downright miserable on others. xD
Final instructions:
1. Welcome to XDA.
2. Read A LOT. When choosing a ROM, read EVERYTHING in the ROM thread's original post, and if there is something you want to know but is not answered in the original post, search through the thread, 95% of the cases someone else has asked your question and it has been answered.
3. After reading a lot and you believe you're ready for action, READ IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
4. When you're absolutely sure you're ready, start flashing.
gg gl hf
sirobelec said:
Welcome to XDA.
I suggest you enter the development section and do like most of us - flash like a maniac until you find a ROM that suits your needs, looks the way you want, feels the way you want.
Still, let me sum it up. These are the main categories of ROMs for our beloved N9005:
1. TouchWiz ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on the official firmware that Samsung released for our phones. They keep between most and all features and apps that are originally offered by Samsung, and then some extras like even better battery life, slightly better camera shots with higher quality, to some small extent they're themed.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Stable.
+ Good battery life.
+ All the functionality is kept.
Cons:
- In my opinion, while quite functional, TouchWiz is ugly as hell.
- Can be somewhat laggy at times.
- You can't mod as much as you want to.
2. AOSP ROMs.?
Those are ROMs based on the Android Open Source Project. Basically, these ROMs turn your device into a Nexus device and strive to bring the pure Android experience. Those ROMs are fast as hell, responsive, and very, VERY easily modified. On the other hand, those are ROMs made by enthusiasts, in some cases professional developers. Still, ROMs that are made from the ground up, and are largely still works in progress.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Your phone running an AOSP ROM will be way faster than TouchWiz.
+ NO bloatware. I mean, all that Samsung bulls**t like ChatOn, Samsung Hub/Apps/Link/Group Play/Trip Advisor and some 20 others are NOT present on AOSP ROMs.
+ Much more open to modifications, including the way even non-system apps look. Like, you can have a dark themed Facebook and Instagram and whatever you use.
Cons:
- Battery life on those ROMs is generally not as good as on TouchWiz.
- While the phone is way faster, the camera experience is also not as good as on TouchWiz. The camera starts quite slowly and while the shots it takes are not bad, those taken on TouchWiz are visibly better.
- Like I said above, those ROMs are works in progress and may have bugs and while most of them are with status Stable by now and most major bugs are not present anymore, there might still be some annoyances.
3. Ported ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on firmwares originally made for other devices, in our case mostly other Samsung devices. The Note 4 (soon Note 5) and S6 have functionality not present even on stock ROMs, like the Galaxy S6's Theme Store. That way with a ported ROM you have access to that functionality while keeping all of the original functionality.
Pros:
+ Added even more functions.
+ With ported ROMs you can experience to an extent new devices without actually having to buy them.
Cons:
- Might be buggy. Making another phone's firmware work on yours is no easy task.
- Battery life might be strange. Good on some days and downright miserable on others. xD
Final instructions:
1. Welcome to XDA.
2. Read A LOT. When choosing a ROM, read EVERYTHING in the ROM thread's original post, and if there is something you want to know but is not answered in the original post, search through the thread, 95% of the cases someone else has asked your question and it has been answered.
3. After reading a lot and you believe you're ready for action, READ IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
4. When you're absolutely sure you're ready, start flashing.
gg gl hf
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Thanks bro! :angel: you just answered my all question.
sirobelec said:
Welcome to XDA.
I suggest you enter the development section and do like most of us - flash like a maniac until you find a ROM that suits your needs, looks the way you want, feels the way you want.
Still, let me sum it up. These are the main categories of ROMs for our beloved N9005:
1. TouchWiz ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on the official firmware that Samsung released for our phones. They keep between most and all features and apps that are originally offered by Samsung, and then some extras like even better battery life, slightly better camera shots with higher quality, to some small extent they're themed.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Stable.
+ Good battery life.
+ All the functionality is kept.
Cons:
- In my opinion, while quite functional, TouchWiz is ugly as hell.
- Can be somewhat laggy at times.
- You can't mod as much as you want to.
2. AOSP ROMs.?
Those are ROMs based on the Android Open Source Project. Basically, these ROMs turn your device into a Nexus device and strive to bring the pure Android experience. Those ROMs are fast as hell, responsive, and very, VERY easily modified. On the other hand, those are ROMs made by enthusiasts, in some cases professional developers. Still, ROMs that are made from the ground up, and are largely still works in progress.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Your phone running an AOSP ROM will be way faster than TouchWiz.
+ NO bloatware. I mean, all that Samsung bulls**t like ChatOn, Samsung Hub/Apps/Link/Group Play/Trip Advisor and some 20 others are NOT present on AOSP ROMs.
+ Much more open to modifications, including the way even non-system apps look. Like, you can have a dark themed Facebook and Instagram and whatever you use.
Cons:
- Battery life on those ROMs is generally not as good as on TouchWiz.
- While the phone is way faster, the camera experience is also not as good as on TouchWiz. The camera starts quite slowly and while the shots it takes are not bad, those taken on TouchWiz are visibly better.
- Like I said above, those ROMs are works in progress and may have bugs and while most of them are with status Stable by now and most major bugs are not present anymore, there might still be some annoyances.
3. Ported ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on firmwares originally made for other devices, in our case mostly other Samsung devices. The Note 4 (soon Note 5) and S6 have functionality not present even on stock ROMs, like the Galaxy S6's Theme Store. That way with a ported ROM you have access to that functionality while keeping all of the original functionality.
Pros:
+ Added even more functions.
+ With ported ROMs you can experience to an extent new devices without actually having to buy them.
Cons:
- Might be buggy. Making another phone's firmware work on yours is no easy task.
- Battery life might be strange. Good on some days and downright miserable on others. xD
Final instructions:
1. Welcome to XDA.
2. Read A LOT. When choosing a ROM, read EVERYTHING in the ROM thread's original post, and if there is something you want to know but is not answered in the original post, search through the thread, 95% of the cases someone else has asked your question and it has been answered.
3. After reading a lot and you believe you're ready for action, READ IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
4. When you're absolutely sure you're ready, start flashing.
gg gl hf
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great great great advise and good rom listing advise
EDIT: I've made my final decision, I'm not coming back to the G2 probably. A Stable ROM is much needed, especially on a recent version of Android. I'll have to give a bit more and opt for the G2. The feedback I got was amazing, thank you so much everyone!
ORIGINAL POST:
Hello,
I am looking forward to buying the LG G2 (again, I had the AT&T one with the bad signal bug - I'm getting the D802 now) and the only thing that is currently holding me back is the Custom ROMs. While right now, the G2 is at a great development state, I don't know how much this will be true in a few years when LG stops making updates for us. AOSP and CM based ROMs will be the only option for an up to date version of Android. The hardware is definitely capable of more than 3 more years of usage with a few optimizations here and there. However, my question is how is the experience on AOSP and CM ROMs compared to stock. How's the battery life? Is the audio worse due to the lack of those special drivers? I've heard the camera is awful, is it really that bad? I love the photos my G2 took and while I'm not someone that takes pictures often, I do like a great Camera for the vacations where I have some time to take photos. I'm especially concerned about all of this as my S2 USCC had an awful ROM development and wouldn't want to risk it all again. Not that Marshmallow wouldn't be fine for another 2 years, especially if we get Cloudy G2 4.0.
Thanks in advance,
Chris
AOSP 5.1.1 roms are just as good as stock in terms of everything except for camera quality. Battery life is stellar and all features work flawlessly without a single bug or app crash or anything. Try the latest SlimSaber for d802.
Thanks! I'll be definitely checking out SlimSaber when I get it. Is camera quality a lot worse or just a bit in your opinion?
AOSP is awesome. It is super fluid on the G2. I keep trying them out (Slim, RR, CM, DU etc) but there are always a couple showstopping bugs that send me back to stock:
• Random vibrations
• 5.1.1 bug: when screen is off, leave a WiFi zone and reenter the zone - the phone will not reconnect unless screen is unlocked (ie no push messages, whatsapp etc etc)
That's about it though. Camera is good, GPS works, QuickRemote with a bit of fiddling works great. But stock gives the full package still.
In my experience the only advantage of custom roms is customization - which isn't a huge advantage considering how customizable lg's roms already are. As far as stability and battery life, it depends on the rom - some are great, others( a lot) are downright unusable. At least with the stock rom you know that it will be stable with good(not exceptional) battery life. Since you mentioned that you take a lot of pictures, nothing beats stock since the developers that made it have access to proprietary data. If you have the time to mess with multiple roms over several weeks, go for it - you may find the one you're looking for. For me, stock does everything I need and then some so that's what I use.
Thanks for your response. As I am not someone that often switches ROMs due to me worrying that I'll lose data, I think I've made my final decision. See Original Post.
Awesome, thanks for the amazing info. I've made my final decision, see Original Post.
G'Day all my friends of the shining sun!
I'm a S4-owner since the first second and I really like that mobile... On the hardware site. I switched from the iPhone 4s and I loved to playing around with Android, Tasker, Flashing... Etc pp.
But I missed this "set it up and just use it"-feeling. Why? Because I have to care about the battery life, about the speed and about the storage space. So I tried all possible roms, starting with A like Alucard, over CM, Google Edition, Samsung Stock, crDroid, Abele, optimized cm... And now I'm with kushan rom.
Thank you all for this fantastic community, for the development, for the reports, help, Q&A, love and peace for the world!! There are also nice tweaks, features, gimmicks and other crazy stuff for everyone - awesome!
BUT: It feels like that there is no really stable build in any rom. There are still some little bugs that no one cares about because of the new Android (every year) and no one fixed it. Especially the CM's only nightly and monthly builds politic... Maybe I have very exotic problems or I'm still to stupid to find the stable one.. Anyway I'm unhappy
I'm just looking for a really stable and basic rom, that is fast and low on battery consumption. I just use the smartphone for browsing, sms, camera and Bluetooth music connection to my car... That's it, nothing more.
I don't like to start a big discussion of the best rom or sth like that, I'm just looking for tips because I don't have more ideas. Additionally I don't care about the newest rom... It just have to work (see the paragraph before).
Thank you
Nira
(traveling 1year in Australia... to improve my English )
Performance and battery don't go along very well.
For stability and battery life you would be looking at stock roms. But, for some reason, people have problems even with stock roms. So what does that tell you?
Even stock roms aren't completely stable.
Marshmallow took android's speed up a notch. Everything seems snappier. Although, there are still issues. But they vary from user to user.
People say that Lollipop didn't improve over Kitkat in terms of battery life.
Toucwhiz still has the best camera app and can make most of the camera features (HDR, Slow-Motion). And it probably also has better battety life. We are talking about stock touchwhiz, not a custom touchwhiz.
Slim roms are very basic, with a few extras.
AOSP roms from JDCTeam are even more stripped down. It's just basic android.
Keep in mind that wifi and mobile data are big battery drainers. I can maybe get 2 hours SOT with wifi or mobile data activated. But I can probably double or triple that with wifi and mobile data off.
But I don't use the more fancy features of the phone, like GPS and such.
So I'm new to rooting my Pure (not in general, been rooting forever) and I just installed AICP and have a few questions.
I realized right away there is no active display (Moto display? is there a difference?) which I'm guessing is due to the fact that AICP is an AOSP-based rom, which after some searching, I'm finding is incompatible with non-stock roms. This is new to me as I thought Moto's stock firmware WAS AOSP to begin with.
Basically, first of all, what's the major differences between moto's stock FW and AOSP? I'm coming from an LG G2 and a Galaxy S3 before that so I knew those systems were heavily modified and skinned by the manufacturer, but I was under the impression that the moto X was as close to AOSP as you could get - but apparently not *the same thing*.
And, if I can't get moto/active display on AOSP, is there a good alternative? I tried enabling ambient display but it doesn't work at all for some reason. Also if AOSP roms are fundamentally different from stock, does that mean there's some way I can enable DT2W somehow? That was probably my favorite feature of LG's phones and while the moto display didn't fully scratch that itch, I got used to it enough while I was unrooted. If none of this is possible, should I just use a stock ROM? What will I be losing (or unwillingly gaining, through bloatware I guess) by not going the AOSP route?
EDIT: I should probably add that I just disable the lock screen entirely. Hence why I really like being able to just DT2W or wave and swipe to get into the phone. Additionally I never really cared about the battery drain because I always carry a little Anker portable battery with me.
Stock 6.0.1 with franken is the best option. I like aosp but they just can't get it up to par with stock yet.
Your right that the MXPE is not the same as AOSP, but it is very close. Appearance wise, no difference except for some settings items and a few apps. I would recommend sticking with modified stock ROMs. Fewer issues with drivers.
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