I9505 - Unhappy since years with all roms - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

G'Day all my friends of the shining sun!
I'm a S4-owner since the first second and I really like that mobile... On the hardware site. I switched from the iPhone 4s and I loved to playing around with Android, Tasker, Flashing... Etc pp.
But I missed this "set it up and just use it"-feeling. Why? Because I have to care about the battery life, about the speed and about the storage space. So I tried all possible roms, starting with A like Alucard, over CM, Google Edition, Samsung Stock, crDroid, Abele, optimized cm... And now I'm with kushan rom.
Thank you all for this fantastic community, for the development, for the reports, help, Q&A, love and peace for the world!! There are also nice tweaks, features, gimmicks and other crazy stuff for everyone - awesome!
BUT: It feels like that there is no really stable build in any rom. There are still some little bugs that no one cares about because of the new Android (every year) and no one fixed it. Especially the CM's only nightly and monthly builds politic... Maybe I have very exotic problems or I'm still to stupid to find the stable one.. Anyway I'm unhappy
I'm just looking for a really stable and basic rom, that is fast and low on battery consumption. I just use the smartphone for browsing, sms, camera and Bluetooth music connection to my car... That's it, nothing more.
I don't like to start a big discussion of the best rom or sth like that, I'm just looking for tips because I don't have more ideas. Additionally I don't care about the newest rom... It just have to work (see the paragraph before).
Thank you
Nira
(traveling 1year in Australia... to improve my English )

Performance and battery don't go along very well.
For stability and battery life you would be looking at stock roms. But, for some reason, people have problems even with stock roms. So what does that tell you?
Even stock roms aren't completely stable.
Marshmallow took android's speed up a notch. Everything seems snappier. Although, there are still issues. But they vary from user to user.
People say that Lollipop didn't improve over Kitkat in terms of battery life.
Toucwhiz still has the best camera app and can make most of the camera features (HDR, Slow-Motion). And it probably also has better battety life. We are talking about stock touchwhiz, not a custom touchwhiz.
Slim roms are very basic, with a few extras.
AOSP roms from JDCTeam are even more stripped down. It's just basic android.
Keep in mind that wifi and mobile data are big battery drainers. I can maybe get 2 hours SOT with wifi or mobile data activated. But I can probably double or triple that with wifi and mobile data off.
But I don't use the more fancy features of the phone, like GPS and such.

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[Q] ICS rom preference

I'm looking for a daily use rom, something that will give good battery life, have working gps and few issues as an actual phone.
Most of my daily tasks on the phone are small games, browsing, social media stuff, but would love to have better battery life and have my gps work better while running. (realize maybe no roms will do this).
I guess the best way to put this which ICS rom would you recommend that has the best battery life and stability - or which is the most stable / mature.
Thanks
The best way is to find it's by yourself...most of the ICS builds are solid, like ICZen, Euphoria or Miui...finally it's a question of feeling and having the opportunity to choose between so many ics roms it's a privilege that many android users don't have it...so don't let the others choose for you
I guess that is kind of the point of the thread - I don't want to go through and test a ton of them, I'd like to get a sense of what others have found to be solid releases and focus on one of them.
I'd like something close to a bare stock ICS install that functions solidly on the vibrant.
ok in that case if you want something solid with great support and regular updates try ICZen by Br1ck'd....
I've really been liking slim ics, battery life is about the same as froyo too. Really stable and quick

[Q] Optimizing performance and battery life without rooting

Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks
lakiscy said:
Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks
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As far as performance this phone comes stock with really great performance, really even battery for that matter. However there is not much your going to be able to do to increase performance of apps like messaging, Gmail, etc. Those apps will already be pretty much flawless. As far as battery all you can do without root is the regular stuff like disable GPS, AUTO SYNC, use auto brightness. There are several apps that claim to help with battery. I used to use Juice Defender back a couple years ago. If you root your phone there is much more you can do. Mods, tweaks, roms, custom kernels, etc. Good luck!
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lakiscy said:
Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks
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As jcnbama stated its pretty sweet outta the box...but to have an all around improvement performance/battery wise you're gonna wanna root your device and install a custom rom...rooting is much simpler and much safer than on many devices...Mahdi aosp rom seems to give the most stability, performance and extreme battery life in my opinion... Good luck!
jamesd1085 said:
As jcnbama stated its pretty sweet outta the box...but to have an all around improvement performance/battery wise you're gonna wanna root your device and install a custom rom...rooting is much simpler and much safer than on many devices...Mahdi aosp rom seems to give the most stability, performance and extreme battery life in my opinion... Good luck!
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You can call me a fanboy or whatever but I've yet to find any custom ROM that outperforms stock in battery life or performance, especially stability. There are some big trade offs too like audio quality and camera (even on mahdi) which are both deal breakers for me. Sad, since I love stock android but stock ticks every box.
Art Vanderlay said:
You can call me a fanboy or whatever but I've yet to find any custom ROM that outperforms stock in battery life or performance, especially stability. There are some big trade offs too like audio quality and camera (even on mahdi) which are both deal breakers for me. Sad, since I love stock android but stock ticks every box.
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Yeah...you would have to be a fanboy to still think stock outperforms aosp in any way...especially Mahdi...benchmarks(which I don't trust to be accurate)show higher...as well as side by side tests of stock and aosp shows how muchs faster tasks are completed...But...at least as far as the g2 is concerned I can see why you love stock...I have been stuck with Samsung's touchwiz ui for my last 3 devices...it was uglyAnd downright overfilled with bloatware...but fully rooted and with a few tweaks I could see myself using stock on the g2...but I still get better stability, performance and battery life on Mahdi than I have experienced on anything hands down
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Yeah...you would have to be a fanboy to still think stock outperforms aosp in any way...especially Mahdi...benchmarks(which I don't trust to be accurate)show higher...as well as side by side tests of stock and aosp shows how muchs faster tasks are completed...But...at least as far as the g2 is concerned I can see why you love stock...I have been stuck with Samsung's touchwiz ui for my last 3 devices...it was uglyAnd downright overfilled with bloatware...but fully rooted and with a few tweaks I could see myself using stock on the g2...but I still get better stability, performance and battery life on Mahdi than I have experienced on anything hands down
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I didn't like it right off the bat. I loved cm 10.2 and I was pretty happy on Mahdi until I played music over Bluetooth. No matter how many audio tweaks and kernel tweaks I made I just couldn't get to sound good. The video camera audio was the same. I can live with the odd random reboot but the sound quality of stock is what sealed it for me.
Art Vanderlay said:
I didn't like it right off the bat. I loved cm 10.2 and I was pretty happy on Mahdi until I played music over Bluetooth. No matter how many audio tweaks and kernel tweaks I made I just couldn't get to sound good. The video camera audio was the same. I can live with the odd random reboot but the sound quality of stock is what sealed it for me.
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How long has it been since you tried it?most if not all of these bugs have been fixed...I couldn't use it due to buggyness either...I tried it after the 6-28 release and it was smooth sailing ever since...every update has continued to improve my experience and its my dd at this point...I actually do keep a backup of stock(all bloat removed and lots of optimizations) due to to some features that only come stock...but I have faster 4g and WiFi connectivity using mahdi...don't know why...I guess one could argue good and bad for both here...but I guess since touchwiz from Sammy just wasn't an option for me aosp is what I'm accustomed to...lol
jamesd1085 said:
How long has it been since you tried it?most if not all of these bugs have been fixed...I couldn't use it due to buggyness either...I tried it after the 6-28 release and it was smooth sailing ever since...every update has continued to improve my experience and its my dd at this point...I actually do keep a backup of stock(all bloat removed and lots of optimizations) due to to some features that only come stock...but I have faster 4g and WiFi connectivity using mahdi...don't know why...I guess one could argue good and bad for both here...but I guess since touchwiz from Sammy just wasn't an option for me aosp is what I'm accustomed to...lol
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Its been a while since I tried it. I've been on the cloudy Roms and cloudyg3 is my daily driver now, surprisingly. Running perfect for me anyway. I'll have to give Mahdi another go before android L comes into effect. Its good to know they're perfecting it. The OP's head must be spinning now with all this information.

[SOLVED] Stock vs. AOSP - Is it really that bad?

EDIT: I've made my final decision, I'm not coming back to the G2 probably. A Stable ROM is much needed, especially on a recent version of Android. I'll have to give a bit more and opt for the G2. The feedback I got was amazing, thank you so much everyone!
ORIGINAL POST:
Hello,
I am looking forward to buying the LG G2 (again, I had the AT&T one with the bad signal bug - I'm getting the D802 now) and the only thing that is currently holding me back is the Custom ROMs. While right now, the G2 is at a great development state, I don't know how much this will be true in a few years when LG stops making updates for us. AOSP and CM based ROMs will be the only option for an up to date version of Android. The hardware is definitely capable of more than 3 more years of usage with a few optimizations here and there. However, my question is how is the experience on AOSP and CM ROMs compared to stock. How's the battery life? Is the audio worse due to the lack of those special drivers? I've heard the camera is awful, is it really that bad? I love the photos my G2 took and while I'm not someone that takes pictures often, I do like a great Camera for the vacations where I have some time to take photos. I'm especially concerned about all of this as my S2 USCC had an awful ROM development and wouldn't want to risk it all again. Not that Marshmallow wouldn't be fine for another 2 years, especially if we get Cloudy G2 4.0.
Thanks in advance,
Chris
AOSP 5.1.1 roms are just as good as stock in terms of everything except for camera quality. Battery life is stellar and all features work flawlessly without a single bug or app crash or anything. Try the latest SlimSaber for d802.
Thanks! I'll be definitely checking out SlimSaber when I get it. Is camera quality a lot worse or just a bit in your opinion?
AOSP is awesome. It is super fluid on the G2. I keep trying them out (Slim, RR, CM, DU etc) but there are always a couple showstopping bugs that send me back to stock:
• Random vibrations
• 5.1.1 bug: when screen is off, leave a WiFi zone and reenter the zone - the phone will not reconnect unless screen is unlocked (ie no push messages, whatsapp etc etc)
That's about it though. Camera is good, GPS works, QuickRemote with a bit of fiddling works great. But stock gives the full package still.
In my experience the only advantage of custom roms is customization - which isn't a huge advantage considering how customizable lg's roms already are. As far as stability and battery life, it depends on the rom - some are great, others( a lot) are downright unusable. At least with the stock rom you know that it will be stable with good(not exceptional) battery life. Since you mentioned that you take a lot of pictures, nothing beats stock since the developers that made it have access to proprietary data. If you have the time to mess with multiple roms over several weeks, go for it - you may find the one you're looking for. For me, stock does everything I need and then some so that's what I use.
Thanks for your response. As I am not someone that often switches ROMs due to me worrying that I'll lose data, I think I've made my final decision. See Original Post.
Awesome, thanks for the amazing info. I've made my final decision, see Original Post.

ROM comparison -NucleaRom vs ResurrectionRemix vs AOSP Extended vs others

Hey there Axon 7 owners!
I am currently very interested how different CustomRoms for the Axon 7 compare to each other, but I don`t have the time to flash all of them at the moment...
So I would love to hear YOUR experiences you have made with different CustomRoms on your device! I`m mostly interested in:
- Stability (possible daily driver on my main phone)
- Support (community, defs, QAs)
- Batterylife
- Sound
- Performance
- Updates? (OTA?, regularly? , etc)
- "Standard features (phone, GPS, bluetooth ...) working or not?
- Advanced features (Substratum (Customization), etc.)
- What do you love?
- What do you hate?
- Would you recommend it?
- Anything else you`d like to share I`ll happily read any information!!
As I would love to have a Rom which is able to run Substratum well, I`m mostly interested in Roms like RR, NucleaRom, AOSPextended .... feel free to add more to the list and also feel invited to write of whichever Rom you are using, whether or not it is supporting Substratum.
I will start with my personal experience:
LineageOS (https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/unofficial-lineageos-14-1-zte-axon-7-t3545679):
Overall I was pretty happy with this ROM
Was stable enough for me (a random reboot every 2 to 3 days)
I think it`s definitly the most supported ROM (huge community and very active devs...), you usually get help pretty fast, whenever you need it! (thanks guys)
Batterylife wasn`t extraordinary, but it got me through the day, which is kinda enough... but I`d love more.
Sound was pretty good, ever since the speaker-fix, I personally liked the AudioFX-App. I`m not sure if LOS takes full advantage of the DAC though.
Performance was good, only thing bothering me: sometimes apps disappeared off my recents
Updates worked really well, ever after starting to use LineageDownloader (I do recommend this app when using LOS)! Very frequent updates (weekly!) that`s how I like it
Had no issues with calls and every other "normal" task I`d throw at my phone
Substratum is sadly not supported, which made me move on other than that LineageOS doesn`t have as many special features I`m aware of, it`s clean, stable but not the most customizable
I loved the barebone google approach with very small addons.
I hated nothing really, but overall I kinda want more possibilities to customize my phone
I would personally recommend it to everyone who wants a working alternative to Stock Axon7 Rom and who doesn`t need all that many crazy options, but an overall very different and in my opinion preferable look and feel (when compared to stock MiFavor) I would also recommend it to everyone starting to experiment with customRoms.
NucleaROM (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ax...uclearom-radioactive-kernel-t3586179/page58):
So I moved to this puppy because I really wanted to try out an all Black SubstratumTheme, and see what else a ROM might have to offer.... (and cuz it was recommended to me by a very nice guy (I don`t mind mentioning the name, but I don`t dare to )
Stability is great, as long as my device`s screen is turned on. But whenever my screen turns off, I get an immediate reboot, which is very annoying and makes it kinda not suited to be used as a daily driver.
However the Support is pretty good for a (compared to LOS for example) very small Dev-Team and community! I posted my issue with NucleaROM and the Dev responded very quickly telling me that it will be adressed with the next update -> props for that! However especially the community support is of course inferior to LOS (since far less people know and Use NucleaROM).
So far I can`t really do real life battery tests, since I`m currently using my phone with screen on for hours to then turn it off completely and reboot it when I need it again (to avoid the bug mentioned above). But I feel like Batterylife with an all black substratum theme on AMOLED is quite nice!
Sound is awesome (for me) probably the same as on LOS (but it feels a bit better to me :`) )
Performance is good so far as well.... I flashed the rom and didn`t notice the reboot-bug for over 3 hours, since everything was running so well I didn`t even turn off my screen and no random reboots happened in that time.... but when I wanted to sleep the reboot madness (I turned the screen off) started ^^ but when the screen is on, I`m very pleased with the performance!
Updates don`t look as good on this ROM. There is no OTA support and updates don`t seem to come that frequently (which is very understandable if you take the small dev team in account, which are doing all the work mainly in their freetime!!) but if you want weekly updates and OTAs then this won`t be the ROM for you probably.
Standard features seem to mostly work, apart from phone calls :/ (since when I hold the phone to my ear -> the screen turns off -> reboot ^^) and when I`m trying to use the speakers of the phone I`m having issues hearing the other person... so sometimes it works, but only after turning it on and off for a seemingly random amount of time...
Special features: this is definitely a huge stepup from LOS (this ROM includes pretty much everything I missed so far on LOS) Substratum is ther and working very well for me, I love the additional settings and options this ROM gives and even though it`s not important I absolutely dig the Boot-animation for some reason!
I love the feel, options and smoothness of this ROM!
I hate the reboot-bug (will update as soon as it is fixed!) and the calling issues.
For now I can`t recommend it as a daily driver, but if you are willing to experiment and either don`t depend that much on your phone or have a second one, than you could or should give this ROM a try and find out if it`s also as appealing to you as it is for me! You should definitly follow the development of this ROM though, since I feel like it has a whole lot of potential!! Fingers crossed I can use it as my daily soon!
I`m very interested in different or the same experiences whith this ROM!
Let the sharing and caring beginn!
|Furō| said:
Hey there Axon 7 owners!
I am currently very interested how different CustomRoms for the Axon 7 compare to each other, but I don`t have the time to flash all of them at the moment...
So I would love to hear YOUR experiences you have made with different CustomRoms on your device! I`m mostly interested in:
- Stability (possible daily driver on my main phone)
- Support (community, defs, QAs)
- Batterylife
- Sound
- Performance
- Updates? (OTA?, regularly? , etc)
- "Standard features (phone, GPS, bluetooth ...) working or not?
- Advanced features (Substratum (Customization), etc.)
- What do you love?
- What do you hate?
- Would you recommend it?
- Anything else you`d like to share I`ll happily read any information!!
As I would love to have a Rom which is able to run Substratum well, I`m mostly interested in Roms like RR, NucleaRom, AOSPextended .... feel free to add more to the list and also feel invited to write of whichever Rom you are using, whether or not it is supporting Substratum.
I will start with my personal experience:
LineageOS (https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/unofficial-lineageos-14-1-zte-axon-7-t3545679):
Overall I was pretty happy with this ROM
Was stable enough for me (a random reboot every 2 to 3 days)
I think it`s definitly the most supported ROM (huge community and very active devs...), you usually get help pretty fast, whenever you need it! (thanks guys)
Batterylife wasn`t extraordinary, but it got me through the day, which is kinda enough... but I`d love more.
Sound was pretty good, ever since the speaker-fix, I personally liked the AudioFX-App. I`m not sure if LOS takes full advantage of the DAC though.
Performance was good, only thing bothering me: sometimes apps disappeared off my recents
Updates worked really well, ever after starting to use LineageDownloader (I do recommend this app when using LOS)! Very frequent updates (weekly!) that`s how I like it
Had no issues with calls and every other "normal" task I`d throw at my phone
Substratum is sadly not supported, which made me move on other than that LineageOS doesn`t have as many special features I`m aware of, it`s clean, stable but not the most customizable
I loved the barebone google approach with very small addons.
I hated nothing really, but overall I kinda want more possibilities to customize my phone
I would personally recommend it to everyone who wants a working alternative to Stock Axon7 Rom and who doesn`t need all that many crazy options, but an overall very different and in my opinion preferable look and feel (when compared to stock MiFavor) I would also recommend it to everyone starting to experiment with customRoms.
NucleaROM (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ax...uclearom-radioactive-kernel-t3586179/page58):
So I moved to this puppy because I really wanted to try out an all Black SubstratumTheme, and see what else a ROM might have to offer.... (and cuz it was recommended to me by a very nice guy (I don`t mind mentioning the name, but I don`t dare to )
Stability is great, as long as my device`s screen is turned on. But whenever my screen turns off, I get an immediate reboot, which is very annoying and makes it kinda not suited to be used as a daily driver.
However the Support is pretty good for a (compared to LOS for example) very small Dev-Team and community! I posted my issue with NucleaROM and the Dev responded very quickly telling me that it will be adressed with the next update -> props for that! However especially the community support is of course inferior to LOS (since far less people know and Use NucleaROM).
So far I can`t really do real life battery tests, since I`m currently using my phone with screen on for hours to then turn it off completely and reboot it when I need it again (to avoid the bug mentioned above). But I feel like Batterylife with an all black substratum theme on AMOLED is quite nice!
Sound is awesome (for me) probably the same as on LOS (but it feels a bit better to me :`) )
Performance is good so far as well.... I flashed the rom and didn`t notice the reboot-bug for over 3 hours, since everything was running so well I didn`t even turn off my screen and no random reboots happened in that time.... but when I wanted to sleep the reboot madness (I turned the screen off) started ^^ but when the screen is on, I`m very pleased with the performance!
Updates don`t look as good on this ROM. There is no OTA support and updates don`t seem to come that frequently (which is very understandable if you take the small dev team in account, which are doing all the work mainly in their freetime!!) but if you want weekly updates and OTAs then this won`t be the ROM for you probably.
Standard features seem to mostly work, apart from phone calls :/ (since when I hold the phone to my ear -> the screen turns off -> reboot ^^) and when I`m trying to use the speakers of the phone I`m having issues hearing the other person... so sometimes it works, but only after turning it on and off for a seemingly random amount of time...
Special features: this is definitely a huge stepup from LOS (this ROM includes pretty much everything I missed so far on LOS) Substratum is ther and working very well for me, I love the additional settings and options this ROM gives and even though it`s not important I absolutely dig the Boot-animation for some reason!
I love the feel, options and smoothness of this ROM!
I hate the reboot-bug (will update as soon as it is fixed!) and the calling issues.
For now I can`t recommend it as a daily driver, but if you are willing to experiment and either don`t depend that much on your phone or have a second one, than you could or should give this ROM a try and find out if it`s also as appealing to you as it is for me! You should definitly follow the development of this ROM though, since I feel like it has a whole lot of potential!! Fingers crossed I can use it as my daily soon!
I`m very interested in different or the same experiences whith this ROM!
Let the sharing and caring beginn!
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I'll keep it as short as possible, best first worst last. (comparably, by my opinion only don't get offended please)
- Stability (possible daily driver on my main phone): LOS, RR, Aosp Ex, Nuclear
- Support (community, defs, QAs): LOS, RR, Aosp Ex, Nuclear
- Batterylife: LOS tie with RR, Nuclear, Dunno about Aosp Ex, didn't use it enough
- Sound: Around the same all of them.
- Performance: Nuclear, Aosp Ex, LOS-RR tie
- Updates? (OTA?, regularly? , etc): LOS, RR, Aosp Ex, Nuclear
- "Standard features (phone, GPS, bluetooth ...) working or not?: In all of them almost anything works but the infamous speakerphone bug
- Advanced features (Substratum (Customization), etc.): RR, Aosp Ex, Nuclear, LOS
- What do you love? LOS and RR constant updates, Nuclear snappiness, Aosp Ex all round experience.
- What do you hate? LOS simpleness, Nuclear's lack of updates
- Would you recommend it? I'd recommend RR since it's very balanced and steadily updated
- Anything else you`d like to share I`ll happily read any information!! We need more kernels, I'm working on building one myself so I don't beg others but I lack the skill and have very litle to no help on doing it.
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I'll keep it as short as possible, best first worst last. (comparably, by my opinion only don't get offended please)
- Stability (possible daily driver on my main phone): LOS, RR, Aosp Ex, Nuclear
- Support (community, defs, QAs): LOS, RR, Aosp Ex, Nuclear
- Batterylife: LOS tie with RR, Nuclear, Dunno about Aosp Ex, didn't use it enough
- Sound: Around the same all of them.
- Performance: Nuclear, Aosp Ex, LOS-RR tie
- Updates? (OTA?, regularly? , etc): LOS, RR, Aosp Ex, Nuclear
- "Standard features (phone, GPS, bluetooth ...) working or not?: In all of them almost anything works but the infamous speakerphone bug
- Advanced features (Substratum (Customization), etc.): RR, Aosp Ex, Nuclear, LOS
- What do you love? LOS and RR constant updates, Nuclear snappiness, Aosp Ex all round experience.
- What do you hate? LOS simpleness, Nuclear's lack of updates
- Would you recommend it? I'd recommend RR since it's very balanced and steadily updated
- Anything else you`d like to share I`ll happily read any information!! We need more kernels, I'm working on building one myself so I don't beg others but I lack the skill and have very litle to no help on doing it.
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Are you recommending official RR or the unofficial one being around on xda for a while? And you don`t recommend AOSP Extended?
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Are you recommending official RR or the unofficial one being around on xda for a while? And you don`t recommend AOSP Extended?
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I personally use the unofficial one since it's getting updated daily, and I can update whenever I feel like it.
You should ask someone else about AOSP extended I don't have much experience with it.
I just recommended RR because I had been using it on many devices I owned flawlessly and it's one of the most balanced and complete (if not the most balanced and complete) ROM out there.
I only use aosp extended and LOS, both are decent, aosp I think have better battery life, and better performance overall, no bugs I can find, the only problem is for me the camera app, in all customs, quality sucks, are uncomfortable, and flashable stock dont work as in stock rom, so, I use stock rom...
but in general, If you are not a camera dependant user, aosp extended is an excellent rom, better than stock, with better battery life.
I noticed stock drains a lot of battery with low signal, the others dont do it
stock have 2 bugs that any other dont... (phone wakes up with proximity covered / whatsapp reports online with app in background)
Im not a fan of cellphone photos, for that I use a real reflex camera, but I use a lot for record work to do, tons of videos driving in the car to budget works in the field and city, so I need a good camera to do this... I pass one time for the site and then review any time in the video... customs roms get worse video

Do you have Stock or Custom Rom?

Do you have Stock or Custom Rom and why?
The vendor firmware landscape has been increasingly adequate for quite some time, providing multiple viable options for a satisfactory mobile experience - buying a device with the intention to separate from its out of the box experience as much as possible no longer makes a compelling case against the unique, and sometimes identity-forming, features provided as stock.
During earlier years, Android, and mobile firmware in general, was controlled by regulations and risks while expanding an entirely new platform. There is no alternative otherwise, and anything less conservative would border reckless abandon.
This paved the way for many enthusiasts under no control to have immersed themselves into the technology like the career engineers and developers were doing, but with the nearly full freedom to test ambitious ideas and solutions unlike their professional peers, who were often limited to free time and with no expectation of something even as simple as maintaining a message board OP exploring those ideas.
This allowed many of those ideas to manifest and be thoroughly tested by many and with an unmatched diversity of real-world usages and trending philosophies. This is when many projects helped form several of the early features unique to the Android platform, absorbing a substantial portion of the risks without fear of retribution, allowing the vendors to devote more time to polish and fine-tuning and less time devoted to brainstorming ideas and risk scenarios.
This afforded the hobbyists a custom platform having quite the head start and that could distance itself from the vendor experience in features, accessibility, and form.
Custom rom's had a different identity then than custom rom's do now, and that is with good reason as well.
Ignoring the few debatable exceptions, custom rom's are currently little more than variations or slight modifications of vendor firmware or AOSP. I exclude CM/LOS simply because CM was among the hobbyists described earlier.
With the feature gap as narrow as it currently is with Mr. Rom Dev and Mr. Lead Software Engineer, the professionals now enjoy an edge with often unlimited resources available providing an experience that is hard to match or exceed with limited time and resources, so users today understandably gravitate towards the familiar vendor experience with a manageable number of features or tweaks.
Of course, even in a market of no stock, consumer demand still determines the custom software landscape.
The benefit today is that ideas and solutions require an extraordinary amount of ingenuity and progressive thinking to stand out and enjoy active development for more than six months. The breakthroughs are far fewer but they are also more impactful in pushing the platform forward.
Having said all that, my purpose for exclusive use of vendor firmware is for hobbyist development reasons. I see no benefit a custom rom would provide for development. I mean, if it works, great. But, if it works only because of the rom, you have essentially prepared something to share among a fraction of one device's users.
If something fails to implement into the vendor firmware, I move on to something else. If it works great for some custom rom's, "Cool, man!", if not, a user has the choice to use the only firmware a developer could logically assume is in use.
So, put gh down for Stock! :good:
Yes, but with custom rom you can have better battery stats. You can also have fewer google apps.. And many more.
I use xXx NoLimits: a stock-based custom ROM. It meets all of my needs. Therefore, I have no reasons to try anything else.
lazostat said:
Yes, but with custom rom you can have better battery stats. You can also have fewer google apps.. And many more.
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I'm getting 10-12 hours of screen on time and idle time is about .3-.6% drain let hour on stock on OOS. There isn't anything custom out there giving anything better.
Eric214 said:
I'm getting 10-12 hours of screen on time and idle time is about .3-.6% drain let hour on stock on OOS. There isn't anything custom out there giving anything better.
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This.
Getting 10-11h SoT every cycle with stock ROM. Got 11ish hours the other day with almost 3 full days without charging.
Haven't seen anything better or much better then THIS.
lazostat said:
Yes, but with custom rom you can have better battery stats. You can also have fewer google apps.. And many more.
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Stock firmware does not necessarily need to remain "untouched".
Perhaps, a more accurate answer would be that my preference for a foundation on which to tailor to my specific needs is the stock OxygenOS firmware. It is certainly rare for users with root access to refrain from making a single change to the installed rom, be it custom or stock. :good:
With this phone it is the first time I've had to come to accept that stock is king, no custom rom compares to it, I've tried them all (yes this is subjective). Stock + a custom kernel + viper4arise and off I go.
I dont know if you count it as stock or custom since it is both but i use HydrogenOS and my own modification of its stock kernel. Im used to 9 hours SoT+ with .2% standby drain per hour. No performance sacrificed. Ill vote in the poll once u verify which u factor hydrogen os as.
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This.
Getting 10-11h SoT every cycle with stock ROM. Got 11ish hours the other day with almost 3 full days without charging.
Haven't seen anything better or much better then THIS.
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ok can you provide more insight? how you get it done......i average about 4-5.5 hours sot over two days........idle drain at1.33 and active at 12.55.
How I get it done? Everyone uses the phone differently, have different apps installed, etc.
Last few days I have used Wi-Fi 99% of the time, always on, Facebook, IG, Tapatalk (a lot), Gmail, Movies HD (a lot), Terrarium-tv (a lot), YouTube, a couple calls and sms here and there, but not much, Messenger, Chrome and app-like-Spotify with bluetooth on the car. I turn on location and bluetooth only when I need it.
Auto brightness is on, always on the low side, dark theme on, turned off vibration on touch (because of the double vibration bug in Oreo), turned vibration of on keyboard touch too (have sound on instead, I like the type writer sound when I type).
Let me see, I do have privacy fix module and sysconfig patcher installed on Magisk. This last one might gave you a boost in battery, but to be honest I don't even know if it actually works.
I would say that having a dark theme, screen brightness on the low side, and not having EVERYTHING turned on all the time are what makes the difference for me. I'm sure if I have bluetooth and location on, for example, all the time, when not needed it, it will cut a my time quite a bit.
Oh, I have notice that talking on the phone takes a lot battery. I don't talk that much on the phone, just those quick 30s-5m calls to ask a quick question or whatever.
I had great battery life out of the box with Nougat, but Oreo really made a huge difference. I'm talking about 2-3h of SoT on Oreo compared to Nougat.
Stock atw and ftw!
Finn the moment the phone I get breathes it's getting a custom ROM.
Always.
For a device like OnePlus 5, a custom ROM isn't really needed since the stock ROM is pretty much debloated and already offers a bunch of features.
Custom ROMs still offer many more features than any stock ROM though. They also get faster updates and for far longer. By the time OnePlus stopped providing updates to this device, custom ROMs will still be updated most probably.
I haven't flashed any custom ROM yet because the stock ROM has almost everything I need. The main reason I flashed ROMs was performance. The OnePlus 5 isn't lacking in this area.
Pure fusion, the Nougat version. It's the smoothest of all ROMs that I tried, has lots of settings and supports stock camera.
Codename Phoenix. Oreo 8.1, Very few bugs and for me a lot better than Stock. From the same dev making Pure Fusion.
CT-CRC said:
With this phone it is the first time I've had to come to accept that stock is king, no custom rom compares to it, I've tried them all (yes this is subjective). Stock + a custom kernel + viper4arise and off I go.
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How a custom kernel can help? I installed bluspark but i dont see additional settings.. How to make us of it?
CT-CRC said:
With this phone it is the first time I've had to come to accept that stock is king, no custom rom compares to it, I've tried them all (yes this is subjective). Stock + a custom kernel + viper4arise and off I go.
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Totally subjective and IMHO completely not true, you are hindered without root and without the ability to alter your phone in a positive way, not only for longevity of battery life but also in regards to performance, stability and stamina.
Stock does not compare to custom in any way for me.
Optimized custom rom could be great when the device is old, and no more supported.
Also, back in the days, let say with Gingerbread 2.3.x, not much nice/modded feature were present. Now, from what I can see, stock roms got almost everything.
OP5 is so fast rigt now, even if stock is heavier, we won't see much difference with a lighter rom.
But looking forward for custom roms in 2-3 years.

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