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Why aren't custom rom developers enabling features like miracast, sip dialer?

I think it's great that there are many choices for custom roms, and when I had my nook color I immediately went to cm7 for the obvious benefits. But with my nexus 7, I'm not so sure of the clear benefits of a custom rom.
Again, it's great they do this work and I know there are some features like being able to use custom kernels, over-clocking etc, but I think there are some good features that would really attract other users.
For ex, with miracast, a lot of people were anxious to have that on the nexus 7 but were disappointed that it was only the n4. I thought, cyanogen or some group will enable it in their rom, but so far nothing.
I'm really surpised though that no one seems to know exactly why it wasn't enabled. Like what in the hardware is preventing it? Some have said because the wifi chip is only 2.4 ghz but that doesn't seem confirmed. And if that's the case, then why not on the n10? Then with the n10 some say it's because of the high resolution, but I think res scaling is in the miracast spec. I guess I'm suprised some dev hasn't looked at the code and said, ah this is the reason it wasn't enabled. Like is there proprietary code with the encoder or wifi chip? Or is all of miracast in aosp?
Another example is the n4 not getting multi-user. This is obviously not a hardware limitation but a decision on google's part as tyically a tablet is shared but a phone is not. I don't own an n4, but sometimes people want to borrow your phone and it would be nice to be able to just let them play with your phone without any worry of someone seeing private data.
What I'm getting at is, if it's obvious that the n4 could have multi-user (btw has any custom rom enabled that for the n4?) but it doesn't because google decided as such and it's also obvious the N7 could have the sip dialer, is it the same case with miracast or is it actually a hardware issue?
The other thing I mentioned was the dialer. It's disabled on n7 because it's not a phone, but for a long time now the built-in dialer has had support for sip, and you see mentioning of voip all the time with regards to the N7. cm7 had the dialer enabled on the nook (which wasn't useful because of no mic) so why not on the n7? From what I've read no custom rom enables the dialer. Again, I know the functionality is there, all you need to do is change the dpi to a phone value. So it would sound as simple as taking out that check.
Yes there are lot's of voip alternatives but I want the built-in dialer because I heard it works with bluetooth headsets.
I tend to ramble, but basically getting miracast and sip dialer would be two nice features out of a custom rom, and I could some users of N4 wanting multiuser. I think it's pretty obvious that any n7 could have the sip dialer enabled and any n4 (or other phone) could have multi-user so wondering if it's the same for miracast.
This is the power of open source. The company decided we can't have feature X on device Y so why not enable it if the code is there?

Over 400 views but no replies. Does anyone know?
Really, I don't want to ask other users like myself, I want to ask developers but it sounds like posting something like this in any dev forum is against the rules.

sark666 said:
Over 400 views but no replies. Does anyone know?
Really, I don't want to ask other users like myself, I want to ask developers but it sounds like posting something like this in any dev forum is against the rules.
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Nexus 7 lacks the correct WiFi hardware for miracast, that's why it didn't come with it enabled and why no one is working on it. There is, however apps in the store for streaming over WiFi.
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I'm curious, where did you read that? I've read speculation that it's because it's 2.4 ghz only but no where did I read that was confirmed. And then why not the N10?

VonEsch said:
Nexus 7 lacks the correct WiFi hardware for miracast, that's why it didn't come with it enabled and why no one is working on it. There is, however apps in the store for streaming over WiFi.
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I can confirm it has 5ghz band. I use the net gear n600 (I think?) Dual band router and it connects to my 5G band.
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I looked up it up on Google. Crazy, right?
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VonEsch said:
I looked up it up on Google. Crazy, right?
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I call bs
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I looked up it up on Google. Crazy, right?
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Hmm, I googled it extensively, and found many speculating that it's because of 2.4 ghz and other speculating that the N10 didn't have miracast because of it's high resolution. But that's all it was, speculation. Nothing from an official at google as to why, or a rom/android dev who has actually taken a look at the code.
So I'd like to see a link or otherwise to me it's another comment that falls under the speculation column.
And my post wasn't just about miracast, but rather seemingly easy features (well sip and mutli-user for phones) that rom devs could enable but for some reason don't.

Hi guys
You doesn't need any of the patches or 3rd party apps.
You just need to follow these steps in order to use cast screen in custom roms:
1. Just enable wifi 'on'
2.Open cast & it shows all available devices:fingers-crossed:

[Q] TV Remote App, learning IR code?

I've managed to get the TV remote app to work on proper brand name TVs in my house (Samsung, Panasonic), but the TV in my room is a Sanyo. The app lists Sanyo as compatible, but none of the IR codes work on it
I was wondering if anyone knew of a different brand option that might work with the Sanyo TV. The HTC One TV remote has an IR learning option, where if you can't find your TV brand, you simply point the TV remote at the phone's IR sensor, long press the power button, and the app will learn the IR code. The GS4 app doesn't seem to have this option, and I can't find a way to get the remote app to work with my TV.
Any suggestions? Thanks.

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I've managed to get the TV remote app to work on proper brand name TVs in my house (Samsung, Panasonic), but the TV in my room is a Sanyo. The app lists Sanyo as compatible, but none of the IR codes work on it
I was wondering if anyone knew of a different brand option that might work with the Sanyo TV. The HTC One TV remote has an IR learning option, where if you can't find your TV brand, you simply point the TV remote at the phone's IR sensor, long press the power button, and the app will learn the IR code. The GS4 app doesn't seem to have this option, and I can't find a way to get the remote app to work with my TV.
Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Sorry to go off topic but which TV remote app are you using ?
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DenmarkRootN00b said:
Sorry to go off topic but which TV remote app are you using ?
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It's called WatchON. Apparently the same company (Peel Technologies or something) makes both the GS4 and HTC1 IR remote apps, but the GS4 version is missing some features.

goraax said:
It's called WatchON. Apparently the same company (Peel Technologies or something) makes both the GS4 and HTC1 IR remote apps, but the GS4 version is missing some features.
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Thanks
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goraax said:
I've managed to get the TV remote app to work on proper brand name TVs in my house (Samsung, Panasonic), but the TV in my room is a Sanyo. The app lists Sanyo as compatible, but none of the IR codes work on it
I was wondering if anyone knew of a different brand option that might work with the Sanyo TV. The HTC One TV remote has an IR learning option, where if you can't find your TV brand, you simply point the TV remote at the phone's IR sensor, long press the power button, and the app will learn the IR code. The GS4 app doesn't seem to have this option, and I can't find a way to get the remote app to work with my TV.
Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Have you updated the app? It contained some additional IR codes.
AFAIK, there should be an option to email the company, if you can describe it with the model number, etc, I'm sure they'll be able to update the app with some more IR codes.

Will T said:
Have you updated the app? It contained some additional IR codes.
AFAIK, there should be an option to email the company, if you can describe it with the model number, etc, I'm sure they'll be able to update the app with some more IR codes.
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I've done that (xtrend et6000 in my case). But I got no feedback.
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the WatchOn app is a horrible bit of code.
In order to remove an accidentally added remote you have to clear all data in the program and start again.
On top of that they have only 1 or 2 codes for each TV brand, it is really sad how little work went into the program.
Also the GS4 has a IR transmitter, but not a receiver so we could not do a learning setup if we wanted to.
I am looking for a new program which can take advantage of the IR LED but so far have not come up with anything.

There is touchsquid which is not cheap but appears to be probably the most fully featured such program available. Or at least that I can find lol There is also this one which I just ran into yesterday buy haven't had time to peruse yet. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5yZW1vdGVmYWlyeSJd The main problem I have with the latter is that I couldn't find any information on whether they will let you run it for a bit to see how it works. As those who have tried to set up more complex systems with good automation know it can take a while to find the flaws and just to flat get everything working. I would want at least a 10 day trial to make a decision.

I mean is it so hard to implement learning function so that you can take any ir remote and copy its codes to phone!? I've had my Casio wrist watch for more than 14 years now and it has ir functionality and, more importantly, learning function so I can literary control anything that has an ir remote.

Try this free app . It's good
bbs.tiqiaa.com/icontrol/app/icontrol.apk
And you can diy the remote control with an additional hardware from the official website.(not free)

xsq881117 said:
Try this free app . It's good
bbs.tiqiaa.com/icontrol/app/icontrol.apk
And you can diy the remote control with an additional hardware from the official website.(not free)
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why? galaxy S4 has its own IR.

The watchON app should just have an option to add codes, it would be a great app if it had that.
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k1ng440 said:
why? galaxy S4 has its own IR.
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The HTC One TV remote has an IR learning option.
But it seems that S4 don't have this option

There's a program on the Play Store called "Smart Remote for Galaxy S4." Has anyone tried it?

kevlarman said:
There's a program on the Play Store called "Smart Remote for Galaxy S4." Has anyone tried it?
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That's expensive.
Try this one ,it's free
bbs.tiqiaa.com/icontrol/app/icontrol.apk

xsq881117 said:
That's expensive.
Try this one ,it's free
bbs.tiqiaa.com/icontrol/app/icontrol.apk
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Why when the hardware is already built in?
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I ended up going with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.remotefairy&hl=en It does cost a fair bit, but it's a really good app. It didn't work with my TV first, but I emailed the app devs and they updated it to include my TV the next day, their customer support was great.

goraax said:
I ended up going with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.remotefairy&hl=en It does cost a fair bit, but it's a really good app. It didn't work with my TV first, but I emailed the app devs and they updated it to include my TV the next day, their customer support was great.
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Same! It controls my Sony TV and Foxtel box. I wonder if it can learn codes?
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flyingwolf said:
In order to remove an accidentally added remote you have to clear all data in the program and start again.
On top of that they have only 1 or 2 codes for each TV brand, it is really sad how little work went into the program.
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LOL what? You have to clear all the data and start again? Hahaha. You're doing it wrong.

runedrune said:
LOL what? You have to clear all the data and start again? Hahaha. You're doing it wrong.
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Care to explain then how to remove a single device, as I walked through every single menu and there is no way of doing it from within the Samsung supplied app that I could see.
And having been a user of android devices since inception I would state that even if it is possible it is far from intuitive.

Quick Remote

My quick remote doesn't seem to synch with any device i own. Tried it on 3 different well known brand name tv's, even uverse didn't work. Any help appreciated.

I don't know how far you are from the device. My experience it's it does not have a good range. I did manage to get our working with 3 devicesbut I had to aim it over and over. I will only use it as a last resort our to show to friends. I don't see it replacing my harmony anytime soon.
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Tried it as close as 1 inch :/, I don't see me replacing an actual remote but...would be nice to have.

Both my tv and my sat box works... My aircon doesnt
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Everything works for me (including ATT Uverse), except my cheap Walmart Ilo tv.

What I found weird, is I programmed it for my tv and cable box in my room first just to try it out, but it won't work in the living room for the same two devices. They're the same codes.... When I get a chance, I'll set up a new room and see what happens. Just doesn't make sense though.

A better QuickRemote app

Hi everyone
I have one question: does anyone know how to improve or add more devices to the quickremote app, besides those presets. I mean, for air conditioning, I can't add my device, a Comfee, that quickremote won't see it. Or to add more functions to the remote, apart changing channels, volume, source input.
Thanks for any reply.

BigBadSheep said:
Hi everyone
I have one question: does anyone know how to improve or add more devices to the quickremote app, besides those presets. I mean, for air conditioning, I can't add my device, a Comfee, that quickremote won't see it. Or to add more functions to the remote, apart changing channels, volume, source input.
Thanks for any reply.
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There is the universal remote function, which lets you create the remote by learning. Use that.

FiendFyre said:
There is the universal remote function, which lets you create the remote by learning. Use that.
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i tried universal remote but that also didnt worked for my lloyd ac remote dont know what's the problem

asankurs said:
i tried universal remote but that also didnt worked for my lloyd ac remote dont know what's the problem
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You might not be doing it right. (no offence) :laugh:
If you have a remote that works with an IR Blaster the quick remote will learn it flawlessly,
BUT if you have a remote that works on Radio frequency (like some AC long range remotes) it OBVIOUSLY will not work.
Make sure your remote has an IR (InfraRed) LED.

BigBadSheep said:
Hi everyone
I have one question: does anyone know how to improve or add more devices to the quickremote app, besides those presets. I mean, for air conditioning, I can't add my device, a Comfee, that quickremote won't see it. Or to add more functions to the remote, apart changing channels, volume, source input.
Thanks for any reply.
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lg didnt use the standard libs to make the IR work on our devices, hence other apps dont work. my friend uses some app from playstore which has a online library of almost EVERY DEVICE OUT THERE ! on his galaxy s4. so to piss him off i showed him 60 fps videos , but sadly that still means no much ir support for us

ingoljosh said:
You might not be doing it right. (no offence) :laugh:
If you have a remote that works with an IR Blaster the quick remote will learn it flawlessly,
BUT if you have a remote that works on Radio frequency (like some AC long range remotes) it OBVIOUSLY will not work.
Make sure your remote has an IR (InfraRed) LED.
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My remote has an IR LED ... I tried before also that using my samsung tv remote and universal remote that worked
but after learning keys of lloyd Ac the buttons of universal remote dont don anything ... how can i make it work ?

i have carrier ac it also didnt had support for that but my device easily learned all the buttons of my ac remote and now i dont know where my actual remote is. my device remote is working absolutely fine with no problem.
if u have rooted mobile then try changing country and region in build prop where u live. because i saw many people saying that after changing region and country they got more products listed in remote.

Does Smart IR Remote work on the G2? I heard a lot of praise for it when I had the Note 3.
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Skizzy034 said:
Does Smart IR Remote work on the G2? I heard a lot of praise for it when I had the Note 3.
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nope no remote works on lg except native lg app

mor_1228 said:
nope no remote works on lg except native lg app
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That sucks. Why do all these companies have to try to be different with the little things like that? It's an IR Blaster LG. No one is gonna care, or even notice, if you use different libs than Samsung or other companies.
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yeah thats a sad thing

mor_1228 said:
nope no remote works on lg except native lg app
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Not true, I believe IR Universal Remote from Wavespark works. LG released the SDK for the IR blaster, it's just very people know about and the ones that do don't want to have to develop a whole new app to work with it. The reason HTC and Samsung devices have widespread support is because they use the Android IR API. If someone could find a way to make that API work with the LG interface, we should be able to use any IR app we want.
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shriom_manerker said:
so to piss him off i showed him 60 fps videos ,
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lol

NicoC72 said:
Not true, I believe IR Universal Remote from Wavespark works. LG released the SDK for the IR blaster, it's just very people know about and the ones that do don't want to have to develop a whole new app to work with it. The reason HTC and Samsung devices have widespread support is because they use the Android IR API. If someone could find a way to make that API work with the LG interface, we should be able to use any IR app we want.
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its true no app work except lg native app. u can try i have tried every app none works.

IR blaster incompatibility?

I bought smart IR remote and coming from Samsung. Doesnt work. Is there still a problem with third party remotes and Lg? I read briefly there used to be. I restored it from helium. Am i missing something?

nearly every other 3rd party app i tried work with the ir blaster on the v20, except for the smart ir remote app. hmm..
Edit: enabling the User Alternate Ir Commands in the Advanced Settings seem to make it work

Thanks. That worked for me too.

Great find man. Thanks!

Jun Hong said:
nearly every other 3rd party app i tried work with the ir blaster on the v20, except for the smart ir remote app. hmm..
Edit: enabling the User Alternate Ir Commands in the Advanced Settings seem to make it work
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Good find thank you works nice now.

Great find many thanks

Jun Hong said:
nearly every other 3rd party app i tried work with the ir blaster on the v20, except for the smart ir remote app. hmm..
Edit: enabling the User Alternate Ir Commands in the Advanced Settings seem to make it work
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OMG, thank you for finding that setting I only use my S6 for the remote as this was not working. I can control my seven ir things again!

Is anyone could tell me where can I find that User Alternate Ir Commands option?
Thank you

netgar said:
Is anyone could tell me where can I find that User Alternate Ir Commands option?
Thank you
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Thank you reaverclan.
I reall have difficulty to find that page of settings on my phone. How to get to this page?
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I was successfully able to make work "galaxy remote control".
All good
Thx guys

netgar said:
Thank you reaverclan.
I reall have difficulty to find that page of settings on my phone. How to get to this page?
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Edit: updated with better video that shows touches.

reaverclan said:
Edit: updated with better video that shows touches.
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Thank you my friend. I watched this video at least 10times but doesn't answer my question. I basically can't see what app it is. I dont have any ir blaster app.
I just basically like to make work "galaxy universal remote".
Is it possible?

Oh it's called anymote sorry the first video showed that but had no touches. It's a great app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.remotefairy
LG does have one on our phones called quick remote. I just like this app better.

Thank you.
Got it.

reaverclan said:
Oh it's called anymote sorry the first video showed that but had no touches. It's a great app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.remotefairy
LG does have one on our phones called quick remote. I just like this app better.
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LG's app is alright, missing out the widget portion for quick toggle.
Are you able to have the app learn new remote codes? For me it shows that the function is not available on the v20, but definitely viable since the stock app does it.

Jun Hong said:
nearly every other 3rd party app i tried work with the ir blaster on the v20, except for the smart ir remote app. hmm..
Edit: enabling the User Alternate Ir Commands in the Advanced Settings seem to make it work
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It doesn't work for me. The Funai blu-ray I have won't accept it but the Vizio TV and my lasko heater works
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good info, i'm so used to the IR features in my old Samsung phones, it's been almost impossible for me to switch to another new phone due the lack of IR.
this is good news

Bubba Fett said:
I bought smart IR remote and coming from Samsung. Doesnt work. Is there still a problem with third party remotes and Lg? I read briefly there used to be. I restored it from helium. Am i missing something?
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Have an issue with touchsquid gr pro remote app, touchsquid says that LG uses a proprietary IR driver sometimes different from
one device to another. and not enough market share for them to write for each device.
as per James Shannon at Touchsquid.

I wrote to that company when the g2 came out and they said the same crap. it's different blah blah blah. enough people clearly buy lg phones, you'd think they'd want to make an app...especially since I paid like 5 bucks for it. waste of money when I barely used it with my old gs4.
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It works just about fine for my Sony t.v. Tatasky recording stb, and Ogeneral a.c. No issues whatsoever.. Worked right straight out of the box.
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