Why aren't custom rom developers enabling features like miracast, sip dialer? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I think it's great that there are many choices for custom roms, and when I had my nook color I immediately went to cm7 for the obvious benefits. But with my nexus 7, I'm not so sure of the clear benefits of a custom rom.
Again, it's great they do this work and I know there are some features like being able to use custom kernels, over-clocking etc, but I think there are some good features that would really attract other users.
For ex, with miracast, a lot of people were anxious to have that on the nexus 7 but were disappointed that it was only the n4. I thought, cyanogen or some group will enable it in their rom, but so far nothing.
I'm really surpised though that no one seems to know exactly why it wasn't enabled. Like what in the hardware is preventing it? Some have said because the wifi chip is only 2.4 ghz but that doesn't seem confirmed. And if that's the case, then why not on the n10? Then with the n10 some say it's because of the high resolution, but I think res scaling is in the miracast spec. I guess I'm suprised some dev hasn't looked at the code and said, ah this is the reason it wasn't enabled. Like is there proprietary code with the encoder or wifi chip? Or is all of miracast in aosp?
Another example is the n4 not getting multi-user. This is obviously not a hardware limitation but a decision on google's part as tyically a tablet is shared but a phone is not. I don't own an n4, but sometimes people want to borrow your phone and it would be nice to be able to just let them play with your phone without any worry of someone seeing private data.
What I'm getting at is, if it's obvious that the n4 could have multi-user (btw has any custom rom enabled that for the n4?) but it doesn't because google decided as such and it's also obvious the N7 could have the sip dialer, is it the same case with miracast or is it actually a hardware issue?
The other thing I mentioned was the dialer. It's disabled on n7 because it's not a phone, but for a long time now the built-in dialer has had support for sip, and you see mentioning of voip all the time with regards to the N7. cm7 had the dialer enabled on the nook (which wasn't useful because of no mic) so why not on the n7? From what I've read no custom rom enables the dialer. Again, I know the functionality is there, all you need to do is change the dpi to a phone value. So it would sound as simple as taking out that check.
Yes there are lot's of voip alternatives but I want the built-in dialer because I heard it works with bluetooth headsets.
I tend to ramble, but basically getting miracast and sip dialer would be two nice features out of a custom rom, and I could some users of N4 wanting multiuser. I think it's pretty obvious that any n7 could have the sip dialer enabled and any n4 (or other phone) could have multi-user so wondering if it's the same for miracast.
This is the power of open source. The company decided we can't have feature X on device Y so why not enable it if the code is there?

Over 400 views but no replies. Does anyone know?
Really, I don't want to ask other users like myself, I want to ask developers but it sounds like posting something like this in any dev forum is against the rules.

sark666 said:
Over 400 views but no replies. Does anyone know?
Really, I don't want to ask other users like myself, I want to ask developers but it sounds like posting something like this in any dev forum is against the rules.
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Nexus 7 lacks the correct WiFi hardware for miracast, that's why it didn't come with it enabled and why no one is working on it. There is, however apps in the store for streaming over WiFi.
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I'm curious, where did you read that? I've read speculation that it's because it's 2.4 ghz only but no where did I read that was confirmed. And then why not the N10?

VonEsch said:
Nexus 7 lacks the correct WiFi hardware for miracast, that's why it didn't come with it enabled and why no one is working on it. There is, however apps in the store for streaming over WiFi.
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I can confirm it has 5ghz band. I use the net gear n600 (I think?) Dual band router and it connects to my 5G band.
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I looked up it up on Google. Crazy, right?
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I looked up it up on Google. Crazy, right?
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I call bs
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I looked up it up on Google. Crazy, right?
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Hmm, I googled it extensively, and found many speculating that it's because of 2.4 ghz and other speculating that the N10 didn't have miracast because of it's high resolution. But that's all it was, speculation. Nothing from an official at google as to why, or a rom/android dev who has actually taken a look at the code.
So I'd like to see a link or otherwise to me it's another comment that falls under the speculation column.
And my post wasn't just about miracast, but rather seemingly easy features (well sip and mutli-user for phones) that rom devs could enable but for some reason don't.

Hi guys
You doesn't need any of the patches or 3rd party apps.
You just need to follow these steps in order to use cast screen in custom roms:
1. Just enable wifi 'on'
2.Open cast & it shows all available devices:fingers-crossed:

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Nexus 7 3G (HSPA+) - Phone Capable?

Please stay on topic - asking just about the phone capability please.
I have spent an hour searching the web and no thread indicates whether it is data only or also voice/phone capable.
I know that we can pull a phone application, but the question is if the modem is phone capable or not.
If you answer please link to your source, or share how you know.
I think for many if this is also a phone (and not just a VOIP sub-par option) it could go head to head with a Note2, with a reduced budget.
Thanks.
Even i am looking for this questions answer but not getting proper answer..Its not confirmed yet abt voice calls/sms
Add one more to the list of people who would like to know the answer to that question. I'd like to upgrade my Galaxy S, which is getting a bit long in the tooth, and I wouldn't mind to loose the back camera (I seldom use it anyway, plus I actually have a digital Point-and-shoot). Also, since I don't make that many calls, a small, cheap tablet makes total sense for me...
My guess is that, if the Nexus 7 with 3G is anything like the original Galaxy Tab (probably one of the original Android Tablets) on that department, then voice is a given. But you never know if the modem is crippled in any way...
Also, since we're on this topic, any news if the launch date is global, or only for the US? And if the 3G will be Europe-friendly, for that matter?
Miguel
I have used Line 2 on mine, so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Interested in knowing too.
Interesting topic..i've plan to upgrade my n7 to n10 or n7 3g..
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This is exactly what I would like to know. Is there hardware that needs to the N7 to make it 3g capable or will Google send and an update to current N7 owners?
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blacktrump1974 said:
Is there hardware that needs to the N7 to make it 3g capable or will Google send and an update to current N7 owners?
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As far as I know, currently shipping N7s completely lack any kind of 3G-capable hardware. It's simply not installed, period. And, since that hardware it's a tiny chip with even tinier contact points that needs to be soldered at manufacturing time (not to mention the rest of the supporting hardware, including the antenna, and already supposing the PCB actually has the required traces in place, which may or may not be the case), then ANY currently N7s being sold will never be 3G capable by themselves. Unless someone develops some kind of dongle to be added, though I don't even know if that's possible...
So, unless I'm terribly wrong, to get an N7 with 3G, you'll need a new one.
Now, one question that popped into my mind in the meanwhile. There was at least one review that took the N7 apart that found out the PCB for the N7 actually has a mounting area for a back camera, and probably all the PCB traces are in place, too. At the time, the reviewer said it could have been a leftover from the design phase, or something that had to be cut back due to the target cost. With these new SKUs popping up, do you think Google will eventually throw the back camera in at some point?
Miguel
i,ve asked google customer support several days ago on this same question but not yet get an answer. one thing i,m certain is that this all depends on the modem.that is, the modem may be data connection capable only, or may also be capable for making voice calls.
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decemberpei said:
i,ve asked google customer support several days ago on this same question but not yet get an answer.
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
any news regarding that? i really want to know!
zorgblaubaer said:
any news regarding that? i really want to know!
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My guess is, unless someone can get their hands on one of them before November 13th, we'll have to wait until at least then to get this question answered.
Also, a bit OT, but does anyone know launch dates for all countries? It would suck so much to have to cross the border just to get my hands on one... Right now, you can only get the 32GB Nexus 7 in Portugal (we completely skipped the 8GB and 16GB versions, they were never even available, though the good news is that we got the 32GB version along with the US), though only through retail (no Play Store for anything other than apps).
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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I can't remember very clearly . i just playing around at android.com looking for some customer support page,where i could ask questions via email since i am not at us. i finally made it at some page like 'my order'. i filled in some personal info,and managed to sent out my question to google. the 'order id' field was not required, but after that i was not able to find the page anymore. the support pages really sucks. just toooooo much links and i keep jumping everywhere and finally get lost,
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If its no voice calls then i will not buy i guess,better i will buy galaxy tab 2 but NoT sure but on gsmarena.com they mentioned that ONLY DATA,NO VOICE CALLS on uppar side of specs.
I have been trying to find the answer to this question as well without any luck. Would be nice to get this confirmed or denied in a official way but i guess we wont know untill nov 13th
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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here the response from google customer support: The Nexus 7 3G version currently does not have a built-in phone app, so it will not be capable of making any phone calls. It has 3G data connectivity and Wifi as of now and currently may be used with any carrier that supports GSM/UMTS/HSPA+.
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decemberpei said:
here the response from google customer support: The Nexus 7 3G version currently does not have a built-in phone app, so it will not be capable of making any phone calls. It has 3G data connectivity and Wifi as of now and currently may be used with any carrier that supports GSM/UMTS/HSPA+.
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Still can't find anything besides a "send feedback" link over at Android.com. I think you were extremely lucky
Anyway, that reply might be a good thing after all: we all know the phone app is disabled for the N7, it has been said before. However, as someone also already mentioned, it's usually possible for people to enable that app, even if you need a custom ROM for it. So, assuming the whole "does not have a built-in phone app" thing only means "we didn't enable voice capabilities because, frankly, it would cannibalize our other offerings, but the underlying hardware is perfectly capable of doing that" (not that you would actually hear anyone from Google saying that, or have them write that down... lol), we'll be golden.
Is any way you can reply to that e-mail and specifically ask which is the baseband/chipset they will be using for the data capabilities? If we had that tidbit of information, we should be able to know if voice could be unlocked or not...
What a way to start my day, with a hopeful news... Nice!
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Still can't find anything besides a "send feedback" link over at Android.com. I think you were extremely lucky
Anyway, that reply might be a good thing after all: we all know the phone app is disabled for the N7, it has been said before. However, as someone also already mentioned, it's usually possible for people to enable that app, even if you need a custom ROM for it. So, assuming the whole "does not have a built-in phone app" thing only means "we didn't enable voice capabilities because, frankly, it would cannibalize our other offerings, but the underlying hardware is perfectly capable of doing that" (not that you would actually hear anyone from Google saying that, or have them write that down... lol), we'll be golden.
Is any way you can reply to that e-mail and specifically ask which is the baseband/chipset they will be using for the data capabilities? If we had that tidbit of information, we should be able to know if voice could be unlocked or not...
What a way to start my day, with a hopeful news... Nice!
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i reply the customer support's email with another question but they didn't give me the direct answer!
my qusetion was:
"thanks for your kindly help. would you tell we if the hardware modem itself supports voice calls? as you know,in android,a 3rd party phone app could take the work of the built-in phone app. so lack of built-in phone app really doesn't matter much. eager for your reply and thanks again!"
their response:
" The N7 3G version can be used for Voice over IP calls, such as Skype, or Google Voice, etc but you will not be able to use the tablet as a phone. Hope that helps."
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their response:
" The N7 3G version can be used for Voice over IP calls, such as Skype, or Google Voice, etc but you will not be able to use the tablet as a phone. Hope that helps."
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I think that kind of confirms where the blogsphere is currently on this topic.
No cell for us
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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Apparently you did not look that hard..
Google Contact Page
Device Support Number 1-855-836-3987
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Werwood said:
I think that kind of confirms where the blogsphere is currently on this topic.
No cell for us
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Technically No...
It doesn't answer whether or not the modem(radio) inside the device has been limited (hardware wise) to only a Data connection.
The N7 runs the tablet version of Android, which means the Phone Feature (dialer, etc) has been removed.
The phone dialer you see on some tablets, are custom to that manufacturer, not added by Google.
What we need to know is if the Hardware part of the N7 will allow for a Voice connection to be made. If so, then the Software part can be added back in. Which I'm sure if the hardware needed is there, then the many geniuses here on XDA will quickly make the Dialer appear
And I might be completely mistaken here, but SMS should be possible since its Technically Data, and only requires a Phone Number to route the messages. If SMS is possible, I would be happy with just that, as I do not use voice (if I needed to, I have a cell for that, which I pay an extreme amount for, but only make on average 2 calls a month) - But this would also require the SMS app be added back into the N7 firmware.
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I think it all come down to Waiting... Waiting for the device to be release, and someone taking it apart to see what its capable of.
Since Google employees people in their service department that are not completely "Tech" savvy, I don't think we can take any answer they give as fact.
I called them the other day, and asked about the Modem/Radio within the Nexus 7 3G.. and The CSR answer was "No you can not plug a Phone Cord or Ethernet cable into the device, and if you want to listen to the radio you must download a 3rd Party App or Try our Google Music service, but it's not a radio" - Couldn't help but laugh uncontrollably for 10min straight.

[Q] Does anyone have DirecTV?

The reason I'm asking is because this (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.directv.dvrscheduler) is one of the main apps I use on my nexus 10 and ever since I did the upgrade to 4.2.2 it exhibits stutter during live TV playback. I can't be certain this is related to 4.2.2 and thus my question, is anyone using this app with 4.2.2 and successfully playing back live TV stutter free? Like I said, it was stable for me up until just a couple weeks ago.
In the event there aren't too many others using this app does anyone know how to reach those who are responsible for developing and sending out stock os updates? It might not mean anything to them but I've thought of providing feedback around what I'm seeing and I guess it I'd worth a try. Who knows, maybe they could release a fix in the next update.
I have the app. Don't use it for watching shows because it's horrible. Basically use the dvr function to record shows. You could probably go to the website and complain. I think that i looked into it once before.
Have you seen their Ipad app? It is absolutely beautiful and works flawlessly. The guide looks just like the web version and it also has a built in remote so you can control all of your receivers. It is the one app that I want updated on android!
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I have the app. Don't use it for watching shows because it's horrible. Basically use the dvr function to record shows. You could probably go to the website and complain. I think that i looked into it once before.
Have you seen their Ipad app? It is absolutely beautiful and works flawlessly. The guide looks just like the web version and it also has a built in remote so you can control all of your receivers. It is the one app that I want updated on android!
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Yes, I've seen it on the iPad. The GUI is much better, as you mentioned, but typically the live playback was the same in my experience. They both looked acceptable on the iPad and my Nexus 10. Of course with 4.2.2 all that seemed to change and now I have stutter. I really hope this can somehow be resolved. I only use probably about 5 apps on my N10 on a consistent basis and this is one of them.
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The reason I'm asking is because this (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.directv.dvrscheduler) is one of the main apps I use on my nexus 10 and ever since I did the upgrade to 4.2.2 it exhibits stutter during live TV playback. I can't be certain this is related to 4.2.2 and thus my question, is anyone using this app with 4.2.2 and successfully playing back live TV stutter free? Like I said, it was stable for me up until just a couple weeks ago.
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Do you have the full range of channels to watch live? Or a select few?
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Do you have the full range of channels to watch live? Or a select few?
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The app only allows for a select number, but I think there are quite a few, something like channel 200 and above. Personally, I watch it for The Tennis Channel and HGTV while I'm working out. Of course I can't any more since something seems to be an issue. I keep wondering whether anyone on 4.2.2 is able to stream live TV or not. I was able to do it with 4.2.1 just fine.
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The app only allows for a select number, but I think there are quite a few, something like channel 200 and above. Personally, I watch it for The Tennis Channel and HGTV while I'm working out. Of course I can't any more since something seems to be an issue. I keep wondering whether anyone on 4.2.2 is able to stream live TV or not. I was able to do it with 4.2.1 just fine.
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I just pulled up the DirecTv app for the first time since the 4.2.2 update to do live streaming. EXACT same problem as you. Stuttering where it was smooth before. Same is true for the tablet and phone version of the app. I would say 4.2.2 is the likely culprit unfortunately.
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I just pulled up the DirecTv app for the first time since the 4.2.2 update to do live streaming. EXACT same problem as you. Stuttering where it was smooth before. Same is true for the tablet and phone version of the app. I would say 4.2.2 is the likely culprit unfortunately.
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Thank you so much for confirming this. Any thoughts on who we might be able to reach out to so that they have an awareness that this issue exists? I'm not quite sure who is best to contact when it comes to the developers of the android operating system.
JPW1 said:
Thank you so much for confirming this. Any thoughts on who we might be able to reach out to so that they have an awareness that this issue exists? I'm not quite sure who is best to contact when it comes to the developers of the android operating system.
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I'm guessing there's pretty much nothing you can do other than downrating in the market and explaining why. That's what I did.
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I can't take this any longer. Watching DirecTV on my tablet was one of the primary reasons I purchased it. DirecTV just released a brand new app for Android and it looks almost identical to the iPad's (very nice GUI). But guess what? The stupid live streaming also fails on the Nexus 10 with the latest OS updates in the same way their other app did. Unbelievable. I've done what I can to contact DirecTV and Google about the issues, but I'm not seeing much response and since it has already been probably 4 months I'm not expecting a true resolution any time soon.
SO...this leaves me with taking matters in to my own hands. I'm a complete newbie when it comes to rooting, but I guess what I need to do is root the device and either install a different build or roll back the Google OS to 4.2.1, the version that worked with the DirecTV app. Could anyone point me in the right direction of what the best course of action might be to accomplish this? There are so many posts with what seems like so many options I am overwhelmed. Any guidance is appreciated.
Now with the update to 4.3 it won't stream at all. Just goes blank. Fantastic.
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Now with the update to 4.3 it won't stream at all. Just goes blank. Fantastic.
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I'm getting the exact same thing after the 4.3 update. What is Google thinking!?!? And how long before they actually fix major bugs like this?
Finally finally finally. DirecTV has fixed this app. It doesn't appear the picture quality is as good as it used to be, but I'm not really going to complain about that. They at least have it operational again. Where I will complain is around the time it took to get a resolution. For as much DirecTV is advertising their mobile viewing ability with tablets and cell phones, this should have been an "all hands on deck" priority for them and it wasn't. DirecTV, you can do better, but for the moment, I will give them credit for getting it done.

Nfc uses?

I ordered a nexus, but I wanna know, what I can use nfc for?
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This is exactly what I was wondering but was afraid to ask in order not to look like a noob
I mean, I know the basics of the technology, but any good use? I mean, I don't care about NFC tags that I have to glue to my desk, because I already have a better way to turn on wifi automatically or do different stuff (i.e. Setting Profiles uses GPS or GSM location to do these things).
I mean - I have Nexus 7 and Note 2, which both have NFC. I saw some demonstrations concerning file trenasfer between phones and what not... But when I put my Note 2 onto N7, I only hear a beep and that's it... what has to be done i.e. to use NFC to transfer something between these 2 devices? Does this work in combo with Wifi direct?
D.
In am not sure if the note 2 uses the normal beam app built into android or not but I know if I put my nexus s or nexus 4 back to back next to my nexus 7 (nexus s to nexus 4) with say the gallery app opened up it will allow me to beam the image selected to the other device...you can also use it for webpages, contacts and other such shareable items.
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Check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp5il7yhM4Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
lol number 1 use of nfc
when your looking at ....anything, and wanna show a friend put your devices back to back till you hear the beep, then touch the screen on the device you wanna send from,
i can send pics, youtube video urls, webpage urls, mp3's,videos, etc from nfc connection:good:
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Check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp5il7yhM4Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You beat me to it
I like that dude's YouTube channel, so thanks for introducing me to it... Ah, Hackintosh, there's a scene I haven't been to involved with since the early leaks of the developer preview of 10.4.3 way back when... (I'm pretty certain I was amongst the first to get it booted on anything other than the developer platform, lol) NFC though, I've not really had much use for it. Got a few devices which support it, my partner's S2 as well, although trying to get the I9100P's party piece working in an I9100 CM10.1 ROM has been hit and miss. I should grab some tags to use for profile switching and app launching on my Nexuses (Nexii?), it seems like the only thing I'm likely to use it for in the short term, at least.
Nfc is a gimmick. I tried to send a pic to my cousin once using nfc. It wouldn't even send it... It said file was too large... Wtf its like a 25kb pic file... Seriously?
Gimmicks gonna gimmick
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Try this thread, or this thread. The Galaxy Nexus forum has a few similar threads that might give you some ideas, too.
Check out this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN1GFa1DO3k
I like his channel.

Help, can it be done? AllShare Cast nexus 10 to Samsung tv

Hi I recently got the 2013 Samsung 8 series TV and was wondering if there is a way to enable all share cast on the nexus 10 for screen mirroring? I have this feature on my siii given its also a Samsung device
Looking around the inter web information is a little vague and conflicting!
Thanks
Dan
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For screen mirroring you will need a miracast capable device. Initially the Nexus 10 was supposed to have miracast, but I doesn't (to my knowledge).
You can stream videos and pictures to your tv over WiFi using apps like imedia or bubbleUPnP. (or any dlna player)
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For screen mirroring you will need a miracast capable device. Initially the Nexus 10 was supposed to have miracast, but I doesn't (to my knowledge).
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I believe it has the capability of doing so hardware-wise, but the settings for it aren't enabled or visible. I think the memory bus or something would be a limitation due to having to push 2560x1600, but perhaps we can just change the resolution (there's some HDMI command thing found recently that does this) and use that?
Yea, wished we could enable it.
I have a netgear ptv3000 receiver. Works well with my dad's Note II.
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thanks for the replies.
To give some more background, until very recently i was running XBMC on a win8 front room PC and Yatse on the nexus 10.
the joy was that if i was watching videos on the nexus i could hit Share/Send to Yatse and the XBMC would automatically start playing the stream for me on the TV.
thats the functionality i am looking for.
A lot that I have seen on the play store are simply players in their own right which if i look at my usage is not what i want.
ideally the right app would sit in the background as a service and catch any source (you tube, pictures, music, mxplayer or any where else I can press share/send to)
has anyone seen anything like this ?
at this point i am less interested in screen mirroring as such (until i want to play need for speed on the big tv!!)...
thanks
Dan.
DanielGwalter said:
thanks for the replies.
To give some more background, until very recently i was running XBMC on a win8 front room PC and Yatse on the nexus 10.
the joy was that if i was watching videos on the nexus i could hit Share/Send to Yatse and the XBMC would automatically start playing the stream for me on the TV.
thats the functionality i am looking for.
A lot that I have seen on the play store are simply players in their own right which if i look at my usage is not what i want.
ideally the right app would sit in the background as a service and catch any source (you tube, pictures, music, mxplayer or any where else I can press share/send to)
has anyone seen anything like this ?
at this point i am less interested in screen mirroring as such (until i want to play need for speed on the big tv!!)...
thanks
Dan.
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http://www.bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnpserver
Check out bubbleupnp on the play store. I think this is what you are looking for.
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freshlysqueezed said:
http://www.bubblesoftapps.com/bubbleupnpserver
Check out bubbleupnp on the play store. I think this is what you are looking for.
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Confirming that Bubblesoft is great UPNP software.
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Confirming that Bubblesoft is great UPNP software.
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ok, thanks, i will give it a go tonight and let you know how i get on ....
ideally we would want the new Samsung Link to work on Nexus 10 devices but apparently this is not happening right now!
DanielGwalter said:
ok, thanks, i will give it a go tonight and let you know how i get on ....
ideally we would want the new Samsung Link to work on Nexus 10 devices but apparently this is not happening right now!
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Don't forget, this will allow either the nexus 10, your pc, or a home server to stream media to your tv through WiFi . You just have to make sure the settings in your tv are on for dlna and that your tv is connected to your network.
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Yes It Can!?
Initially it was said that N10 would support Miracast
Then we were told neither N7 or N10 would support it.
Now Miracast has been enabled and working for N7, see
ht tp s://github .com/kensuke/ How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki and ht tp://w ww. you tube.com/watch?v=KNEmaIr3FEg
Even though Kensuke warned about trying it I went ahead and installed the non-tested OTA package for N10
I did not experience any loops as he was afraid of, no errors at all and it seems stable.
The OTA package seems stable but Miracast may or may not work.
I do have "Wireless display" in the menu now. I also believe searching for miracast receiver was working the first time I booted the tablet. Unfortunately I didnt have a miracast receiver nearby then and when I got home it seemed like I had lost the possibility to search for receivers.
I still have "Wireless Display" in the menu though.
Just spreading the word. Maybe and hopefully someone smarter then me would be able to make use of the patch :fingers-crossed:
hugeabscess said:
Initially it was said that N10 would support Miracast
Then we were told neither N7 or N10 would support it.
Now Miracast has been enabled and working for N7, see
ht tp s://github .com/kensuke/ How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki and ht tp://w ww. you tube.com/watch?v=KNEmaIr3FEg
Even though Kensuke warned about trying it I went ahead and installed the non-tested OTA package for N10
I did not experience any loops as he was afraid of, no errors at all and it seems stable.
The OTA package seems stable but Miracast may or may not work.
I do have "Wireless display" in the menu now. I also believe searching for miracast receiver was working the first time I booted the tablet. Unfortunately I didnt have a miracast receiver nearby then and when I got home it seemed like I had lost the possibility to search for receivers.
I still have "Wireless Display" in the menu though.
Just spreading the word. Maybe and hopefully someone smarter then me would be able to make use of the patch :fingers-crossed:
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This would be great to see in one of these rom builds
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Agreed! I am testing and reporting to the author of the patch, Kensuke, at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989513&page=5
Lets hope he and the community will resolve this

No Miracast on Nexus 9!

I picked up the Nexus 9 this week. No Mircast support. Called Google on it to confirm. I can only assume that the lack of support on the Nexus 9 and 6 is an attempt to push us to Chromecast. I am PISSED! The proper hardware is there on the tablet (the dual 2.4 and 5ghz WiFi radios), just no software support. Maybe if enough people complain they will add support....
I understand your pain, I had the same disappointment. I also hope they will add support later, however with Chromecast being dirty cheap, I doubt it. Probably some royalties' issue... So is the world, but at least for me it's a bearable weakness, since Chromecast support is now very good, and since Chromecast now also does screen mirroring (in beta, but it works).
Ouch!
aleandre1974 said:
I understand your pain, I had the same disappointment. I also hope they will add support later, however with Chromecast being dirty cheap, I doubt it. Probably some royalties' issue... So is the world, but at least for me it's a bearable weakness, since Chromecast support is now very good, and since Chromecast now also does screen mirroring (in beta, but it works).
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I wish my pain were my own. I deployed Miracast in 5 conference rooms at work once I found out that it would be included as part of Android after 4.2. I figured it had achieved enough mass to be sustaining as a standard (since Windows 8.1 supports it). Now I am looking for a replacement to my deployment of 100 tablets and the Nexus 9 just got crossed off my list of candidates.
I work for a University and the problem with moving to Chromecast lies in the details of how Chromecast works. A Chromecast device has to be added to an existing WiFi network with a static IP address, which on a corporate network that uses an Active Directory login that changes monthly, adds upkeep to a device that should be fairly simple to maintain.
I much prefer the method of connection used by Miracast. Miracast creates an ad-hoc network between the Receiver and the broadcasting device on the 5Ghz band, while the 2.4Ghz band is used for normal network use. In my mind it is a much more elegant and secure connection method.
What makes me mad is that there is no reason to cut support. The Nexus 9 has both a 2.4 and a 5ghz radio. It makes no sense.
aaaaaahhhhhhh did not know just tried no cast. WOW. Had Chromcast it is lame and does not do full HD etc. This is not good. Dang!!!!!
Interesting, they've killed wired mirroring too.
Right around the time they release the Nexus Player, hmmm...
Argh. So much for this being a productivity tool. No powerpoint presentations!9
Apple Move
dtl said:
Argh. So much for this being a productivity tool. No powerpoint presentations!9
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I wonder if there is a way to include miracast in an alternate ROM for the Nexus 9? Why would Google even try to do this? Such an Apple move.
VA_Nate_H said:
I wonder if there is a way to include miracast in an alternate ROM for the Nexus 9? Why would Google even try to do this? Such an Apple move.
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In addition to really reducing (actually eliminating its role in teaching), I will not be able to cast (e.g., I have a push2tv 3000) to TVs in my relatives homes with this. I have other systems, but the size ad capabilities of this would have made it nice for this purpose.
So actually it is similar to the "Apple" move in that it is for personal entertainment and not a working beast.
Any workaround?
Got my tablet yesterday, and was looking forward to cast the screen to my Samsung smart tv (series 8), but no luck...
Try all cast in the play store
I've tried basically all apps in play store and no luck.
Its only media they can stream via DLNA most offen.
Its not what you see on the tablet, e.g. games and browsing..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2952461
build.prop one line modification enabling Miracast on Nexus 6.
this modification applicable to Nexus 9,,, probably.
I don't have N9.
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thank you . I like it
s107ken said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2952461
build.prop one line modification enabling Miracast on Nexus 6.
this modification applicable to Nexus 9,,, probably.
I don't have N9.
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I would assume you have to be rooted right
dtl said:
I would assume you have to be rooted right
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sure. required rooted for editting build.prop.
or
install flashable zip from custom recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56702305
20141115_mira03_AOSP500r2_generic-arm-signed.zip
attach file contains editing build.prop script.
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s107ken said:
sure. required rooted for editting build.prop.
or
install flashable zip from custom recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56702305
20141115_mira03_AOSP500r2_generic-arm-signed.zip
attach file contains editing build.prop script.
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Thanks I am not rooted yet so I can't flash right?
d
Everyone, please take a moment and head over to the Google forum and voice your displeasure with how Miracast was intentionally removed from the Nexus 9 and 6.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!searchin/en/nexus$209/nexus/ppd2jl3KrEY/fsyj-DoSftcJ
dtl said:
Thanks I am not rooted yet so I can't flash right?
d
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this zip required custom recovery.
i confirmed this zip stock lollipop(not rooted) on Nexus4 with custom recovery.
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hi
s107ken said:
this zip required custom recovery.
i confirmed this zip stock lollipop(not rooted) on Nexus4 with custom recovery.
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Sorry to be slow, but I don't quite understand what you are saying. That it is possible to flash this being rooted? I have rooted by HPTouch pad and am familiar with that but flashing a stock rom (e.g., not rooted), I am not clear on. If this is possible. Any thoughts?

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