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[Q] Nexus 4 Random Power Off

As the title states. Nexus 4 random power offs. Has anyone seen anything like this?
Here is the background info:
My parents have Nexus 4 phones as do I. All of our phones were ordered at the same time about 2 months or so ago when they became available again. All phones are the 16GB version. All phones bone stock with just OTA updates, not unlocked or rooted other than how they are shipped. All using T-Mobile prepaid plans.
My phone and my father's seem fine. My mom's however seems to shutdown on its own. It is random. Initially I thought that it may be an issue where she isn't used to a smart phone and isn't charging it enough. It happens though at times while it is connected to the charger. It also has happened while carrying it off the charger.
One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
I have been around android since the G1 days and run the same phone. I can't think of a setting on the phone that would power it down at a certain time or period of time. She really doesn't have much for apps and is a very light user.
Not sure what to try but I was thinking about doing a wipe of the phone to see if it helps.
Anyone else have any ideas? If the wipe doesn't help the only other thing I can think of is that there is a physical issue with the phone.
I haven't seen this on my phone but there was a period of time where HD Widgets on my N7 would cause a reboot. That was fixed with an app update. This isn't a case where the device reboots. It is a complete shutdown which I find odd. So I have seen an app cause issues kind of like this. For the most part the apps that she has on her phone, I also have on mine. Well I have way more but there really isn't anything on her phone that I am not also running.
I should add that she has the phone in a TPU case. As we all do. My case design is a little different than theirs but they have cutouts for the buttons. So it isn't a case where the case is pressing on the power button. That could be an issue with my case as it covers the power button but I haven't had that issue.
Thanks

Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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BigDig said:
Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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That is what I am kind of thinking. Either the battery or the smart battery chips. I think I will try a wipe first but like I said but it is odd.

sennister said:
One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
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That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.

amartolos said:
That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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I don't want to root and have my mom run a modified ROM. They live about a half hour from me so I haven't tried a wipe of the phone yet and because of the distance I don't want to deal with the issues that sometimes come up when you go with modified ROMs when I am not there. She is a very basic user and this is the first smartphone for my father and mother. Keep in mind they are in their early 70s and not really that strong on the tech side of things. I have to get some time to run over there and take a look at it. Maybe later next week.
I was just wondering if anyone else has had this issue. I think if a wipe doesn't help I will talk to Google. A search really didn't show much other than some people that were seeing a random reboot issue. I have seen apps doing that.
I have been through their warranty replacement process and it is a bit of a PITA. I am on my 3rd Nexus 7 due to hardware issues with the first 2. My N4 and my fathers have been rock solid.
While I have run custom ROMs in the past, I usually run stock until I find a need that requires me to root. Eventually I will probably root and go with a custom ROM on my N4 but

sennister said:
She is a very basic user and this is the first smartphone for my father and mother. Keep in mind they are in their early 70s and not really that strong on the tech side of things.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:

amartolos said:
That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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amartolos said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:
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Hmm. That is a good idea. The PITA part would be to get everything loaded from my phone to hers. I really wish I could run Titanium backup without root as it would make it super easy to move the apps over. Though I don't have that much loaded on my phone. Things that are a pain to set up have configuration export methods like Tasker. It would rule out the end user being the source of the issue. I don't think that is it though. If we swap and it goes away, then I can consider the wipe as the solution. If the problem moves to me then it is a physical issue and call Google. If the problem persists with her, I load all her apps on the phone I carry as well to see if I start to have the issue or it becomes a training issue. The thing I like about this the most is that it is a clear process to rule out several things. I can go over there and sit with the phone but if it doesn't power off when I am there I don't gain much other than spending some time with my parents.
I don't think this is an issue but I did have to provide my IMEI# when doing the activations. In the past though on T-Mobile I have handed phones down to others and all we did was a SIM swap. I would imagine that is the case here.
Oh and one thing I did leave out. They were using their old cell phone chargers on the N4 phones. I told them to swap chargers and use the ones that came with the phone. The old ones may not put out enough power and the phone could in theory run down to the point where it shuts off and slowly charge from that point and I don't think it would turn back on. Keep in mind a retired user who just had a knee replacement so she is at home more often than not.

Did you find out the cause? I have the same issue happened twice today

The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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noodles2224 said:
The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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So you're saying it's a software issue?

Looks like it.. Turning off optimization or not even using WiFi at all worked..
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I just disabled the LG keyboard and my phone is ultra smooth now

Like the title says, I changed over to swiftkey keyboard lastnight and after rebooting to get the old keyboard to stop running my phone is now EXTREEEEEEEMLY responsive and the animations are now REAAAAALY smooth!!
It's been 24 hours now and it's still blowing my mind.
Just thought i would share this here incase anyone else wants to give it a go.
EDIT: just to increase the success rate, I decided to post a few simple steps.
1. Download new keyboard of choice.
2. Go into G3 options and set the new keyboard to default.
3. Reboot (important).
4. Hopfully by now you're enjoying some butter smoothness.
I looked through the thread and out of everyone that reported if this helped or not, is about 50% say this helps and 50% say no difference.
The worst that can happen from trying this is wasting 30 seconds from your life.
Here's a quick video i made showing the difference in stutter & response time of my notification bar, it helps in all areas of the phone, not just the notification bar but i just wanted to show an example.
You can easily see the increased response times in my video. But It's really hard to see the stutter difference in the video since it was only recorded with a 30 fps camera, though in real life it's improved a ton too.
For my testing conditions, I have 100% same apps & i shutdown and coldbooted and let the phone sit exactly 10 mins to let the os settle before testing for each test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AxkRF7vI8M

Woah, i salute you!
Just tried, works like a charm!!!!! Magical!!
Smoothest phone ever!!!!
Thanks!
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Amb669 said:
Like the title says, I changed over to swiftkey keyboard lastnight and after rebooting to get the old keyboard to stop running my phone is now EXTREEEEEEEMLY responsive and the animations are now REAAAAALY smooth!!
It's been 24 hours now and it's still blowing my mind.
Just thought i would share this here incase anyone else wants to give it a go.
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This has always been the first thing I do when I get a new phone or flash a new ROM. No surprises here

I really love the LG keyboard. but gonna try.

veddandekar said:
Woah, i salute you!
Just tried, works like a charm!!!!! Magical!!
Smoothest phone ever!!!!
Thanks!
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Good stuff
It really is THE smoothest phone ever after doing this
lossah said:
I really love the LG keyboard. but gonna try.
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After you download a new keyboard, make sure you set it up as the default keyboard in the G3s options then reboot for it to completly disable the LG keyboard.
I like the LG keyboard too, like i mean i personally think it's the nicest looking keyboard i've used yet, but if it does that to my phone no thanks.
My phone is butter smooth now, But much more importantly is it's sooooo much more responsive :victory:

lossah said:
I really love the LG keyboard. but gonna try.
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I never really used it much. Try the Google keyboard. Since it wasn't available in play store in my country, i had to grab the apk. Apk is lying somewhere on xda......

Hmm, unlike many of the so called tweaks out there this does seem to help. LG stock items do seem rather memory and CPU hungry.

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Hmm, unlike many of the so called tweaks out there this does seem to help. LG stock items do seem rather memory and CPU hungry.
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It's funny you said that, because i thought exactly the same thing haha.
I've done near everything in the book to make my phone faster & more efficent including debloat of more than 130 apps and only having 3 running processes in the end seemed to have little to no effect, and then this happened.
My goal was to save battery life, but enstead i realized i had just REMOVED my stutter which is even better :laugh: if i coulda hoped for ANYTHING for this phone this was it!!

What about battery life after disabling stock keyboard? I mean if its affect so much at performance of the phone its probably affect on battery too...
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What about battery life after disabling stock keyboard? I mean if its affect so much at performance of the phone its probably affect on battery too...
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I'm currently testing that out right now as we speak under extremely controled conditions, I'll post back the results when i'm done.

Well I don't know if it is just placebo or what but to me apps like gallery are opening smoother and it does seem to be a fair bit better so thanks op.

i dont know if i see any difference.

Uninstalling Lg Stock launcher makes it even more smoother!
I used titanium to uninstall it....
Shows how terrible LG software really is!
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First thing I did was download Google keyboard. I personally hate the LG keyboard. For a phone so big, the keys on the keyboard are surprisingly small. I get that you get more keys, but I can't get used to it and the predictive text is almost comical.

it is indeed a bit faster. I have ART enabled, so everything was already running pretty smooth.
Next test: disable ART and install xposed with some app settings, G3 tweaksbox and 'nomoreoverlay'....

Now how does it compare to a Nexus 5 in smoothness?
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Now how does it compare to a Nexus 5 in smoothness?
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I don't think that's a fair comparison. Let's wait for the unlocked bootloader. And a good AOSP rom. Then we can compare those devices...

It mainly the LG apps that are making this phone slow. The LG gallery is killing me, its so slow. I can't even replace it became the camera needs it.

I don't exactly understand what is "unlocking the bootloader", I thought rooting the device made everything possible on the device, but it's probably not the place to ask for the difference between the two.
However I may ask why is it taking so long? The phone has been out for months now.
Did it take so much time for the LG G2?
As I remember I have been adding new ROMs to my Nexus 5 a few months after purchasing it and i bought it on very early January which was two months after it was out.
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It mainly the LG apps that are making this phone slow. The LG gallery is killing me, its so slow. I can't even replace it became the camera needs it.
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I am not an expert but I think there's probably a tweak for doing that? Like freezing the lg app and grabbing the kit Kat gallery app then resetting the association in the app settings?
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I don't exactly understand what is "unlocking the bootloader", I thought rooting the device made everything possible on the device, but it's probably not the place to ask for the difference between the two.
However I may ask why is it taking so long? The phone has been out for months now.
Did it take so much time for the LG G2?
As I remember I have been adding new ROMs to my Nexus 5 a few months after purchasing it and i bought it on very early January which was two months after it was out.
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I am not an expert but I think there's probably a tweak for doing that? Like freezing the lg app and grabbing the kit Kat gallery app then resetting the association in the app settings?
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Allows you to flash ROMS. Bootloader unlock policy depends on the manufacturer. LG is infamous for not facilitating this.

May be Switching from Note 3 to Moto X Pure

So obviously it's about time for me to get a new phone, considering mine is never going to make it past 5.0 lollipop and various other reasons. I just want to know what to expect if I do end up getting the Moto X Pure. Will I be happy/satisfied with my purchase? Will there be a huge learning curve?
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spookykidmm said:
So obviously it's about time for me to get a new phone, considering mine is never going to make it past 5.0 lollipop and various other reasons. I just want to know what to expect if I do end up getting the Moto X Pure. Will I be happy/satisfied with my purchase? Will there be a huge learning curve?
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I would say go for it if you don't care about the Spen. The Note 3 is a great phone but I enjoy the Pure alot more. There is no bloat to speak of and you can unlock the bootloader and flash whatever you want. Camera wise the Pure is better. I especially like the Moto display where you can wave your hand in front of the lock screen to see your notifications and unlock it instead of pressing buttons. I would suggest to get at least a 32GB or more model. I currently have the 16GB one and find it too small so I have a 64GB on it's way. It makes things easier when flashing ROMs because you don't need to format the external SD to adaptive storage.

Misterxtc said:
I would say go for it if you don't care about the Spen. The Note 3 is a great phone but I enjoy the Pure alot more. There is no bloat to speak of and you can unlock the bootloader and flash whatever you want. Camera wise the Pure is better. I especially like the Moto display where you can wave your hand in front of the lock screen to see your notifications and unlock it instead of pressing buttons. I would suggest to get at least a 32GB or more model. I currently have the 16GB one and find it too small so I have a 64GB on it's way. It makes things easier when flashing ROMs because you don't need to format the external SD to adaptive storage.
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Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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spookykidmm said:
Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.

Misterxtc said:
I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.
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Alright well thank you anyway
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spookykidmm said:
Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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Im not sure why those reviews say that.
I constantly get 4 - 5hrs screen on time, occasionally it'll get 6hrs screen on time, that was on stock non rooted.
I've also recently rooted and flashed xposed with gravity box and still continue to get very acceptable battery life.
i have the US version of the Pure. Not sure if my phone just got a good battery.

spookykidmm said:
Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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I came from note 3 as well. On it since it came out. I've seen quite a spread on what people get. I'll low ball and say definitely 3 1/2, 4 1/2 with some management. Better build than 3 (expected). You'll have to get used to the color changes. Samsung saturates, so remember that. Someone posted getting 32 at least. I definitely agree with that statement. Don't bother with 16, even with the availability of SD card. Great radio. Unlocked for carriers. Price can't be beat. Only other option would be Nexus 6P.
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Misterxtc said:
I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.
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What ROM do you use?

guraki said:
What ROM do you use?
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I was running stock until a couple hours ago and decided to try AICP. So far it's running great.

Def agree with everyone to get 32gb or above. What took me by surprise is this phone has no LED notification.....unless your rooted and running a rom which supports it (most do). Also when you root you will be able to control doze much more efficiently and get much better standby battery. This has the brightest screen I have ever seen (have it on 5%-10% while indoors), great audio jack/speaker sound/reception/camera and battery charges ridiculously quick. It's safe to say you will love this phone.

plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again

Aftab_khatri said:
plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again
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@spookykidmm, don't listen to this clown. Xposed doesn't affect battery life. If you're running some janky modules, you could run in to issues, but that's not Xposed. Additionally, normal battery life is not pathetic. Battery life on the Galaxy S6 is pathetic. I usually average between 5-6 hrs SOT depending on usage (with or without Xposed). Typically the people on here that complain are in the minority... that's true for nearly every phone. And a lot of times, they screw things up on their own and blame the phone

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@spookykidmm, don't listen to this clown. Xposed doesn't affect battery life. If you're running some janky modules, you could run in to issues, but that's not Xposed. Additionally, normal battery life is not pathetic. Battery life on the Galaxy S6 is pathetic. I usually average between 5-6 hrs SOT depending on usage (with or without Xposed). Typically the people on here that complain are in the minority... that's true for nearly every phone. And a lot of times, they screw things up on their own and blame the phone
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Do you think root and xposed is necessary for a good experience?
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spookykidmm said:
Do you think root and xposed is necessary for a good experience?
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Not at all.

brholt6 said:
Not at all.
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Aftab_khatri said:
plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again
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Since battery depends on many variables like screen brightness, signal strength, apps installed, sync frequency, etc....your setup could be giving you horrible battery life, but explain to me how xposed makes battery that much worse....you must have many modules incorrectly configured.

My girlfriend upgraded from her Note 3 to the Moto X Pure when I upgraded at the same time from my LG G4 to this and we're both EXTREMELY satisfied. Dev support is on the rise so you'll have a few choices in ROMs. I'm currently rockin' TruPureXMM v2.5 with Franken Kernel using his Battery Profile settings, xPosed with GravityBox, Amplify & XGPM and can honestly say I couldn't be much happier with the experience overall.
We have the 64 GB models and neither of us use an sdCard since it's been more than enough for us. Google Photos keeps our photos stored and Google Play Music is our choice of service (Family Plan for $14.99 a month) which lets us stream our over 23,000 song collection and gives us access to any song on Google Play with no ads and since we have T-Mobile the music streaming isn't going against our high speed data, which is very nice. As other are saying, you will enjoy the dual-front speakers, the screen is great, and battery life is within reasonable acceptance. You can squeeze more out of it fairly easily with some tweaking and the quick-charge is INSANE. You can't beat the charger that comes with this phone.

Any kernel that eliminates fingerprint Reader lag?

because of androids new doze mode, it takes forever for the phone to wake from sleep now.. even if it was just put to sleep 30 seconds prior. are there any kernels that help this annoying wake delay?
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Try different governor and scheduler settings using a kernel editor. might get better results without having to change your kernel.

you can adjust the stock kernel?
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im pretty sure stock kernels contain different governors and schedulers. they wont be aftermarket ones but you can have a couple different options to try atleast.

hmm interesting. I just wish doze wasn't so stupidly aggressive. like it's so aggressive yet I see no battery savings at all compared to phones on 6. 0 and even 5.0
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jayochs said:
hmm interesting. I just wish doze wasn't so stupidly aggressive. like it's so aggressive yet I see no battery savings at all compared to phones on 6. 0 and even 5.0
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Doze isn't stupidly aggressive, the way LG has the firmware setup/not setup is slow. Of all the devices I have owned, the V20 seems to have the worst fingerprint unlock speed. Luckily, it should be something they can fix in firmware, should they ever decide to push out firmware updates lol. It's very much like the S7/Edge. With the stock firmware and lockscreen, it's wretched, yet you could install Good Lock, and it would be significantly faster. I am hoping the issue lies with the LG Lockscreen.

Not sure about anybody else but I just got a V20 yesterday (H910) and after doing two factory resets (because I'm odd that way) and then putting in some fingerprint images - and I removed the thin clear plastic that is/was on the fingerprint reader disc, that might help but I can't speak for anyone else on that - what I've noticed is that it's probably 1/5th of a second to go from unlocked to the Home screen on this V20 I have.
Is that fast, or is it slow, I guess I can't say but it seems awfully damned fast to me. Sometimes I'll barely graze the reader and figure it won't work and voila, it unlocks even when I'm using the very tip of an index finger (along the actual top edge) and I really don't think that should enough to unlock it but again it happens anyway.
Pure stock device, apparently it's still on the 10L build from December - I'm not an AT&T customer so it looks like I'll be stuck on that for a while as I'm still considering unlocking the bootloader/rooting and as I understand it that requires that build, haven't decided yet. Overall it's a nice phone but I'm really disappointed in the camera quality, I mean really disappointed - after owning a G4 I swear no other smartphone camera has even come close in my opinion, I really miss that device.

My fingerprint reader used to be WAY faster until I rooted. It was just as fast using the Reserection Remix ROM but I had to go back to the NotSoStock ROM too many bugs for me. I've tweaked my CPU Governor to the best middle ground I can get between performance and battery life. Still having lag with the Fingerprint reader but not as bad.

helfrez said:
Doze isn't stupidly aggressive, the way LG has the firmware setup/not setup is slow. Of all the devices I have owned, the V20 seems to have the worst fingerprint unlock speed. Luckily, it should be something they can fix in firmware, should they ever decide to push out firmware updates lol. It's very much like the S7/Edge. With the stock firmware and lockscreen, it's wretched, yet you could install Good Lock, and it would be significantly faster. I am hoping the issue lies with the LG Lockscreen.
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it's related to how LG uses doze. because the phone doses immediately when screen is off and it cuts power to the scanner. this can be seen by shutting screen off then immediately going to unlock with finger scanner.. it's incredibly fast. then, wait 45 seconds.. and try again. incredibly slow. it's shutting down the process into doze mode and it has to wake when it senses a finger. it's annoying
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I've had my v20 since October 27th. Never been reset and my fingerprint reader is lightning fast no matter how long it's been sleeping. Does it matter if you have the 2nd screen always on? Mine is. And as long as it's on the reader is instantaneous.
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mines always on too and it'll take like 5 seconds to register from a deep sleep. unlocked us996 here
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Getting frustrated with poor performance

I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since day one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?

fungo45 said:
I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since say one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?
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You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.

I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement

I've been running N 7.1.1 since I got the phone 2 weeks ago and the performance has been stellar, scrolling is smooth and fast, no freezes at all, after reading the issues with 8.1 beta (battery drain, wifi etc.) I'm in no rush to upgrade....

I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.

tech_head said:
You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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InfDaMarvel said:
I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.
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yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!

herwarth said:
yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!
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The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!

InfDaMarvel said:
The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!
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S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...

Jostian said:
S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...
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S9+ to be exact

InfDaMarvel said:
S9+ to be exact
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Yip S9+
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look I had the S8 and it was stellar, but was looking for some cash so sold my S8 for $620 and bought the PH-1 for $450, and I'm really impressed so far, ok sure I dont to rocket science etc on the phone so I'm a pretty light user, but on 7.1.1 its been superb since day 1, smooth, snappy and better battery than the S8.

Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.

fungo45 said:
Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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Started using Greenify, but to work as intended, it requires you to set it as a Device Admin. When doing this, it disables the fingerprint sensor.

alkanaft said:
Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.
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Yes, am in no rush to go to Oreo as 7.1.1 is so solid for me
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why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?

jusegozu said:
I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement
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Ditto here.My 7.1.1 was acting up.Oreo has been butter.Some nice tweaks built in as well.Pic in Pic is cool and useful.As is the floating dialer.

herwarth said:
why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?
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I'd say that RAM is not an issue here. The software causes phone performance to degrade. 8.1 works fine for me. Hardware itself in PH-1 is awesome. And price tag beats OnePlus and many others. ??

So far, the Oreo OTA update has been great. No issues like I had on Nougat. Hope this remains.