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There's a lot of comparisons between the Thrive and the Transformer because they're both big and heavy. One aspect that the Thrive often gets points for is the user replaceable battery. I guess user replaceable batteries have two advantages:
1. Cheaper to replace the battery after it wears out
2. Possibly have spare battery charged for extended runtime.
In two years time, when the current generation of tablets start needing battery replacements because of wear, I doubt you'll be willing to spend even $50 for a user replaceable battery. There would be much better tablets out by that time. It would make more sense to dock the old tablet and use the nice screen as a picture frame or weather/traffic display.
On the other hand, it might be nice to have a spare battery for extended run time, like when traveling. The 10 hour run time on a Transformer is long enough for domestic flights, but for long overseas flights, extra capacity would be useful. However, user replaceable batteries probably have to be charged inside the device, not externally. And I wonder how much more bulk/weight is added to tablet because of the hardware needed to accommodate replaceable batteries. You need to add outside contacts, battery cover. Real estate on a handheld device is such a premium.
Have you ever replaced the battery on your cell phone? That's the closest comparable device I could think of. For some reason, I would strongly prefer replaceable batteries on my cell phone, but I don't have the same strong preference for my tablet. Maybe because most tablets are too heavy to hold one handed for any amount of time, so I feel any added weight would be a bad design choice.
What are your thoughts?
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On the other hand, it might be nice to have a spare battery for extended run time, like when traveling. The 10 hour run time on a Transformer is long enough for domestic flights, but for long overseas flights, extra capacity would be useful.
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That's another good reason to have the dock.
On my recent trip from London to Shanghai, which was a 12 hour flight, I was able to use my TF whilst in the departure lounge waiting for flight to board, and then on the plane for close to the entire duration of the flight.
In use, I did have the TF undocked for the most part, but when I wasn't using it was put straight back into the dock and the battery topped up. The dock also served as a stand for when I wanted to watch videos etc and didn't want to actually hold the TF.
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For a cell phone or laptop I prefer to have a user replaceable battery. For the tablet, I have not had such need.
I Agree.
The Thrive really had me interested with the user replaceable battery, but after much thought, I realized that I have had laptops for over three years (IMO around the time to replace) and never had to change a battery, I have had cell phones for 10 years, and never had to replace a battery. So a tablet, that I will want to replace probably in 12-18 months (actually replace in 24-30 months) will still have a very useful battery. The extra weight is not necessary.
Yea I agree. If the device is some chinese knockoff then being able to access the battery is nice but for something like this I don't see a need. The only battery I've replaced was my 6 year old laptop about a year ago.
I'm sure in 6 years, the TF's battery issues will be someone else's problem.
I'm sure hobby shops and the likes can take it apart and replace the cells.
I don't usually keep devices more than a year or two, so I don't have an issue with the sealed battery.
I don't care about the battery. I love the ports. And the possibility that one of those indicator lights will eventually be used for notifications.
It's about as important as whether a company decides to sel any.
If the TF had a replaceable battery I have no confidence they would actually sell any because as of now they can't even sell a god damn replacement AC Adapter.
For the tablet I am not as concerned because its not usually mission critical and it lasts a long ass time. I love having one for the phone though because sometimes I rape the battery and I gotta have a phone.
so what do you do on the Transformer if it hangs and you need to do a hard reboot? I know it happens every few weeks with my Fascinate, which I admittedly have been hard on with custom roms and overclocking and what not.....but at some point the thing hard locks and if you can't pull the battery what do you do?
I dont care about replacing it because it needs replacing because i will sell it long before the batteries need replacing, same with cell phones.....
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so what do you do on the Transformer if it hangs and you need to do a hard reboot? I know it happens every few weeks with my Fascinate, which I admittedly have been hard on with custom roms and overclocking and what not.....but at some point the thing hard locks and if you can't pull the battery what do you do?
I dont care about replacing it because it needs replacing because i will sell it long before the batteries need replacing, same with cell phones.....
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Hold the power button for long enough and it will reboot.
Fact: Battery technology has improved leaps and bounds in just a few short years. They'll last at least five years.
Fact: Almost no one on this forum will keep their tablets beyond 18 months. Moore's Law.
So a replaceable battery is a moot point.
Maybe it can be replaced?
Since the battery is just a piece of electronic equipment inside the tablet, which many people have already opened up, why could it not be replaced? Just not within seconds and would require tools. Anybody thought about this already?
Or am I missing something?
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Carl LaFong said:
Fact: Battery technology has improved leaps and bounds in just a few short years. They'll last at least five years.
Fact: Almost no one on this forum will keep their tablets beyond 18 months. Moore's Law.
So a replaceable battery is a moot point.
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But wouldn't a replaceable battery give the seller a better resale value? If I wanted to buy a used TF in say 3-4yrs for whatever reason I know I'm going to most likely have to deal with a battery issue. Unless you sold it low enough I would rather buy the thrive because I know all I would have to do is buy a new battery. I'm assuming this will be much cheaper than replacing a TF battery (labor cost as well, assuming the average user won't try to open it).
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But wouldn't a replaceable battery give the seller a better resale value? If I wanted to buy a used TF in say 3-4yrs for whatever reason I know I'm going to most likely have to deal with a battery issue. Unless you sold it low enough I would rather buy the thrive because I know all I would have to do is buy a new battery. I'm assuming this will be much cheaper than replacing a TF battery (labor cost as well, assuming the average user won't try to open it).
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Lol. Technology devalues so fast that resell value on things like tablets and cell phones is pretty much irrelevant after a year. Even then, no, having a removable battery wouldn't affect it in the least.
longevity quality and demand are really all that matters.
For example; iphone's are still very expensive even a year after they come out when purchased used, Android phones on the other hands (which have removable batteries while iphone doesn't) devalue much faster after a year then do apple products. In this case it's because of demand. There is a new android phone every month, there is a new iphone every year or so...
Battery life is dependent on three key factors, typical charge and operating temperature, and the typical charge cycle profile.
Ambient temperature regularly above thirty degrees centigrade can dramatically shorten Li ion cell life.
Not a usual concern for a consumer device user.
Letting the battery charge fall below fifty percent regularly will significantly shorten life.
Cells will lose capacity over time and the capacity after five years can be less than fifty percent of the original capacity.
Thermal design of the device, charge algorithm of the device, and quality of the cell itself also play a roll in battery life of course.
But for a consumer device I won't worry about replaceable batteries much.
One of the reasons Eee Pad is attractive to me is low cost with the expectation of quick obsolescence in twelve to eighteen months.
Think about how many replaced their iPads for iPad2 in less than a years time. Tablets with true Quad-core ARM Cortex A15 processors will be available late 2012.
I don't see much resale value for these early tablet devices.
If you want to use the devices for an enterprise application deployment that lasts say two years replaceable battery would be valuable as the failure rate escalates after one year .
The manufacturer decision to add complexity of a replaceable battery would depend on majority of customer use cases and profitability of replacement battery sales.
Japanese maker's have been known to over-engineer their designs adding cost without much end user value. Good strategy when margins were high to keep competitors out, poison in the current markets.
I never have spare battery for cellphone or laptop, i dont think I will buy extra battery. The dock is good enough.
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Here is my experience:
My wife has a 2G iphone since october 2007 its battery is almost as good as day one, still last a whole day.
On the other hand I bought spare battery for my HD2 but the poor thing never had the chance to prove being useful, most probably will end its life sitting in the drawer.
I have just ordered a Transformer from the USA
and hope that its battery will be as good as my 6 years old Asus eeepc 1000H which lasts almost 5 hours same as the day it was purchased.
Hope this helps.
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Good point guys. It makes sense.
The Samsung Galaxy S2 has horrible battery life. The 1650mah battery will not suffice to anyone but light users.
In my eyes, there are many unacceptable solutions:
- Disabling battery hungry features (lowering screen brightness, undervolting CPU, uninstalling certains apps, disabling real-time sync, etc.) - I find this compromise unacceptable, I bought this device to use it with all its glory.
- Using a larger extended battery - I find this solution unacceptable, since in order for a poweruser to get through the day, at least a 3000mah battery is required. Such a battery, although exist for the S2, adds significant weight and bulk. The device becomes ugly and uncomfortable to carry around.
- Upgrading to a device with much better battery life - currently there are two, the Motorola Maxx, which I find ugly, and the Samsung Note 2, which is realy big to handle...
So, after much thought and experimentation, I finally want to report my success story (yes it's an old solution, but somehow most don't understand its enourmous power): I'm using a secondary battery. I bought another original 1650mah battery (with a seperate charger). The 1650mah battery is very light and small, so it easily fits inside my very small wallet. When I need to switch (middle day), I clocked the switch at just under 60 seconds (from pressing the power off button, to being able to fully use the device again with a fresh battery including the rubber case installed).
This is such a simple solution, it has practically zero drawbacks (If you don't mind losing 60 seconds of your life everyday...), it gives you the equivalent of a 3300mah battery (which is much more than any extended battery advertized as being 3300mah, even Mugen's), yet so few people use it...
wowwww you wrote all this just to tell us you have a secondary battery.
I know, it seems like an overkill but really, I spent 1.5 years trying to solve the S2 battery problem without huge compromises (and everything else apart from a secondary battery is a huge compromise), and I can only regret I didn't read a post like mine...
u wasted ur 1,5 years for just a secondary batt??? do u know how funny u're...
how about having a micro USB powerbank??
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S 2's battery actually doesn't suck. It is better than most of android phones.
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I know, it seems like an overkill but really, I spent 1.5 years trying to solve the S2 battery problem without huge compromises (and everything else apart from a secondary battery is a huge compromise), and I can only regret I didn't read a post like mine...
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samsungs 2000mah extended battery iis realy good its just pricey
Don't see how this 'sollution' is from a different category than the other ones you've stated.. It all depends on the user, and what he/she knows about saving battery without UC and stuff.
Maybe you would last longer with one battery if your stories would be shorter
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Don't see how this 'sollution' is from a different category than the other ones you've stated.. It all depends on the user, and what he/she knows about saving battery without UC and stuff.
Maybe you would last longer with one battery if your stories would be shorter
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I thought I made it clear why the extra battery is a solution of a different category
- It allows you to have all the phone's features ON.
- It allows you to enjoy its comfortable, light and slick original design.
- It allows you to enjoy the equivalent of a *true* 3300mah battery.
- Minimal fuss (60 sec battery switch).
Nothing can come close to such a solution (for a power user who needs a long lasting phone). Practically no drawbacks, only benefits (in comparison to any other solution, which always present a severe compromise).
I think it's rather a good advice, than a "solution". And indeed, this is a feature you will miss whent it's gone: The replaceable battery. I've bought the 2000 mAh battery by Samsung. So I have the greater battery plus a secondary one, if needed.
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I think it's rather a good advice, than a "solution". And indeed, this is a feature you will miss whent it's gone: The replaceable battery. I boght the 2000 mAh battery by Samsung. So I have the greater battery plus a secondary one, if needed.
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I agree, the word "advice" is more appropriate
Btw, are the 1650mah and 2000mah batteries interchangeable ? I thought they use different battery cover...
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The Samsung Galaxy S2 has horrible battery life. The 1650mah battery will not suffice to anyone but light users.
In my eyes, there are many unacceptable solutions:
- Disabling battery hungry features (lowering screen brightness, undervolting CPU, uninstalling certains apps, disabling real-time sync, etc.) - I find this compromise unacceptable, I bought this device to use it with all its glory.
- Using a larger extended battery - I find this solution unacceptable, since in order for a poweruser to get through the day, at least a 3000mah battery is required. Such a battery, although exist for the S2, adds significant weight and bulk. The device becomes ugly and uncomfortable to carry around.
- Upgrading to a device with much better battery life - currently there are two, the Motorola Maxx, which I find ugly, and the Samsung Note 2, which is realy big to handle...
So, after much thought and experimentation, I finally want to report my success story (yes it's an old solution, but somehow most don't understand its enourmous power): I'm using a secondary battery. I bought another original 1650mah battery (with a seperate charger). The 1650mah battery is very light and small, so it easily fits inside my very small wallet. When I need to switch (middle day), I clocked the switch at just under 60 seconds (from pressing the power off button, to being able to fully use the device again with a fresh battery including the rubber case installed).
This is such a simple solution, it has practically zero drawbacks (If you don't mind losing 60 seconds of your life everyday...), it gives you the equivalent of a 3300mah battery (which is much more than any extended battery advertized as being 3300mah, even Mugen's), yet so few people use it...
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you still have to carry the cover everywhere too.
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you really cant notice the samsung extended battery is any bigger, especially if you have a case on your phone then it is impossible to tell. Much better than carrying and charging two batteries imo!
I dont have the extended battery and when using my phone hard over the day i can get 5 hours screen time on standard size anker battery. Have you tried using BBS to workout why your battery life is soo poor?
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you still have to carry the cover everywhere too.
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What do you mean "carry the cover everywhere" ? which cover ? I only carry the additional 1650mah battery in my wallet...
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you really cant notice the samsung extended battery is any bigger, especially if you have a case on your phone then it is impossible to tell. Much better than carrying and charging two batteries imo!
I dont have the extended battery and when using my phone hard over the day i can get 5 hours screen time on standard size anker battery. Have you tried using BBS to workout why your battery life is soo poor?
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But you can't compare two 1650mah batteries to one 2000mah battery... the 3300mah solution gives you 65% more juice...
Regarding carrying an additional 1650mah battery, it's so small and light (30 grams) that after putting it in my wallet I forget about it completely. Charging two batteries is no fuss at all, if you have a seperate battery charger.
You are getting 5 hours screen time on 1650mah battery ? for me this is impossible, while every feature is ON (real time sync, auto brightness, facebook app, normal volt, constant 3G connection) I get this amount from two batteries (but the phone operates much more than 5 hours, more like 20). I do have bad reception at my work, which might drain the battery more.
2000+1650 battery is better than your solution, lol
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2000+1650 battery is better than your solution, lol
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And 2000 + 2000 is even better
But really, 3300mah is more than anyone would require in 1 day. It's really an overkill in itself (it's more than the Note 2 battery, and for a much smaller screen...).
you forgot the 1650 battery that came with the phone & money spent in vain?!
How do you charge both of the batteries? I mean you have one s2, or you use external charger to charge extra battery?
And My S2 lasts a day with 3hour of music, 4hour of screentime! No undervolting or compromise, Wifi n Data mostly on, I even use Google Now! Stweaks settings for best performance!
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How do you charge both of the batteries? I mean you have one s2, or you use external charger to charge extra battery?
And My S2 lasts a day with 3hour of music, 4hour of screentime! No undervolting or compromise, Wifi n Data mostly on, I even use Google Now! Stweaks settings for best performance!
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Yes, I use external charger to charge the extra battery ($10 on ebay), and another $25 for the extra original 1650mah battery.
I think the battery life has a lot to do with the signal quality, and the signal sucks at my workplace (also, if you are using WIFI instead of 3G you'll again save a lot in battery, but I'm using 3G...).
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Yes, I use external charger to charge the extra battery ($10 on ebay), and another $25 for the extra original 1650mah battery.
I think the battery life has a lot to do with the signal quality, and the signal sucks at my workplace (also, if you are using WIFI instead of 3G you'll again save a lot in battery, but I'm using 3G...).
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I use both, but mostly Wifi.
Edit: And I don't like keeping it on minimum brightness, it kinda changes colors in S Amoled. White seems yellowish, grey becomes something else, so I keep it around 35-40%
I've read that the S 4 is supposed to have good battery life, with reviews claiming that nothing you can throw at it will make it go below a day, but here's my problem: the turds doing reviews online don't actually use their phone.
I currently have an S II with a 2000mAh battery. Pebble connected, hundreds of Tasker actions/profiles/scenes going off all over the place, A2DP audio streaming, everything turned on all the time, and so on. The 2000 mAh battery in the S II is barely enough to get me through the day at this point, and so 2600mAh paired with a screen that much larger and higher res worries me. I don't buy a phone to play Tamagotchi with the battery, I buy it to use it, so I expect to be able to do whatever I want and not worry about the battery.
So, my question is simple: does anyone who actually use their phone for what it's worth have any thoughts on battery life? I've looked at extended batteries in any case, but it would be nice to hear how it does without such an upgrade.
Use BetterBatteryStats to see what's using your battery or maybe wakelocks
Get a spare if you're going to get an S4 & you use the phone that much. I was pleasantly surprised with the battery life given the things you've mentioned, and I have no problem getting through the day with the 2600mAh battery.
You could get a 3rd party extended battery from one of the more reputable manufacturers (not my thing, but might be yours), or you could even get something like a Trident Electra hard case which has an extended battery built into it (2600mAh) which pretty much doubles the available zzz's you have at your disposal. I would have thought that would be plenty even for a heavy users' daily use (charge at night).
As to whether you personally need either of these, that's going to be hard to say even if you try & give people an idea of your usage. You're really only going to know if you get the phone & set it up/use it the way you do.
Put it this way, if you like/want the phone for whatever reasons you have, get it. You have plenty of options re: battery life & I'd be very surprised if you couldn't easily find a good solution.
I had the note 3 the battery was terrible and i really thought we'd be getting atleast 4000mah as some websites stated but 3220mah aren't you guys concern? Seems like a joke to me.
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I was under the impression that the Note 3 had pretty good battery life... at least that was what I was able to discern from reviews.
Can someone else who also owned the Note 3 chime in?
Watch this and you won't be concerned about battery any more:
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&sour...Ot9BGMeI02GwNY_Zw&sig2=jB_BFvUf5EMKyJdT_ZwXOw
This video shows that the Galaxy S5 with Snapdragon 805 and QHD Display doesn't use more battery than the "old" Galaxy S5. So Samsung seems to have found good ways for battery saving.
I am not concern. I plan to get 2 extra battery and a external charger. The Note 3 version was like $30. Whick brand is good? Anker?
pcman2000 said:
I was under the impression that the Note 3 had pretty good battery life... at least that was what I was able to discern from reviews.
Can someone else who also owned the Note 3 chime in?
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You would be correct. The Note 3 Battery life was pretty damn good. I never had issues with it, and if you look over the N3 forum you'll see some pretty outstanding results :good:
I expect the N4 to have been tweaked a little and the battery to be either on par or at least very very similar to the N3.
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I had the note 3 the battery was terrible and i really thought we'd be getting atleast 4000mah as some websites stated but 3220mah aren't you guys concern? Seems like a joke to me.
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The Note 3 was widely regarded as having some of the best battery life for any phone of that time.
If anything wall hugging iphone users have something to be worried about with their copycat device, "Retina HD" welcome to 2012 Apple and the battery size, hardly a mention because we KNOW its smaller than Samsungs.
My note 3 has pretty decent battery life. Just make sure to disable a bunch of stuff that you don't need for best results.
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sofia-captivate said:
I had the note 3 the battery was terrible and i really thought we'd be getting atleast 4000mah as some websites stated but 3220mah aren't you guys concern? Seems like a joke to me.
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since 4.4.2 update WiFi battery usage increased. so i got battery drain...
But i change setting to turn off WiFi when screen off and Battery Life became normal
On Note 4 they claimed for more optimization for power + UltraPower Saving mode...
so we have to wait for reviews and our experiences...
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Even though I was disappointed they didn't include a bigger battery, I'm not concerned about battery usage on Note 4. I don't think they would've made a big deal about battery usage the and better performance on the Note 4, if they didn't have something to back that up. It would've been much simpler to not mention the 7% improvement, or just say they increased the battery by 20mAh. I'm expecting a somewhat better performance compared to the Note 3, which is fine.
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Even though I was disappointed they didn't include a bigger battery, I'm not concerned about battery usage on Note 4. I don't think they would've made a big deal about battery usage the and better performance on the Note 4, if they didn't have something to back that up. It would've been much simpler to not mention the 7% improvement, or just say they increased the battery by 20mAh. I'm expecting a somewhat better performance compared to the Note 3, which is fine.
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The battery is still bigger than the iphone 6+'s and you can always swap it out and with quick charge feature 0-50% in 30 minutes, how long does an iphone take?
It's not how big the battery is, but how it's used. I have Note 3 and I saw as much as 40% drain overnight, when phone was not used at all, right after updating to KitKat and I also managed to have as little as 1% drain overnight, after killing some of bloatware. I can't pinpoint anything in particular, but it could be more than one program. Right now for example Google search is draining my battery more than all other programs combined and I'm not doing anything with the phone at all. I don't want to kill it, since I use it sometimes, but if it keeps doing it I may have no choice. Anyhow if Note 3 is working properly it can have fantastic battery life.
According to what I read so far Note 4 screen should be something like 14% more efficient than older version, despite having higher resolution, CPU and rest of hardware should be at last as good as older models and there should be ultra power saving mode, so I wouldn't worry about power that much, unless some program or programs crash and go bananas, but at least software issues can be fixed, just a matter of effort. For example many claim factory reset fixes excessive battery drain right after firmware update, which I had personally.
If you are concerned, you could always buy a ZeroLemon battery.
Here's the report on Note 4 screen. Remember display consumes the most energy of anything.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
Comparison with the Galaxy Note 3:
The Galaxy Note 4 is 14 percent more power efficient than the Galaxy Note 3. This is due primarily to a 19 percent improvement
in the power efficiency of the Green Primary channel (materials and electronics). The results are scaled for the same Luminance.
Comparison with LCDs:
While LCDs remain more power efficient for images with mostly white content (like text screens, for example), OLEDs are now
more power efficient for mixed image content because they are emissive displays so their power varies with the Average Picture
Level (average Brightness) of the image content. For LCDs the display power is independent of image content. OLEDs have
been rapidly improving in their power efficiency. In fact, the Galaxy Note 4 is 40 percent more power efficient than the
Full HD LCD Smartphones we tested for mixed image content (that includes photos, videos, and movies, for example)
with a typical 50 percent Average Picture Level, APL.
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SOC should use the same power as other Snapdragon 805 powered devices (hint: Qualcomm generally makes pretty power efficient smartphones).
I've been wanting to get this device but I am getting turned off because of the battery complaints. Is it really bad or enough to get you through the day?
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aytex said:
I've been wanting to get this device but I am getting turned off because of the battery complaints. Is it really bad or enough to get you through the day?
Thanks
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All depends... For me a full charge will go all day with about 3 hours SOT, but it varies a lot depending on WiFi access, traveling, signal strength, etc. TBH, I carry a charger and cable and tend to top off mid-afternoon of possible.
My only complaint with this device is battery life, but it's still better than my Nexus 4 was no matter how you look at it... But compared to my Moto G3 it's terrible. Is the battery life bad? I don't think so, but I would not call it good either.
Battery sux like on every snapdragon 808/810 device. Those procrssors are the most ****ed up things in mobile history.
U will get average/max 3h sot of normal usage and thats it, like on every other phone with this cpu. To compare, on xperia z2 I was getting 5h30min sot on average with the same usage.
At least battery is charging really fast, but only with original charger. With every regular charger under 1A it will be still discharging while using.
If u have money just buy something with snap820.
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gemtin92 said:
Battery sux like on every snapdragon 808/810 device. Those procrssors are the most ****ed up things in mobile history.
U will get average/max 3h sot of normal usage and thats it, like on every other phone with this cpu. To compare, on xperia z2 I was getting 5h30min sot on average with the same usage.
At least battery is charging really fast, but only with original charger. With every regular charger under 1A it will be still discharging while using.
If u have money just buy something with snap820.
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It's no secret the battery life is not good with this device, but isn't because of the CPU. ~85% of the battery is used by the display in the Style/Pure because the 5.7" LED display is horrible on battery, its beautiful to look at but the battery consumption is ridiculous. The CPU is actually a minor draw of power in the device, if this phone was identical except with an energy efficient AMOLED display, getting 5-6 hours of SOT would be simple. The idle draw on this device is less than 3% per hour and if doze kicks in its under 1% per hour.
I have lg g flex 2 with 1080p oled display runing on snap810 and the story about battery is the same. Ofcourse oled display in moto x would help a little, but its not a display, its a cpu draining so much battery.
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No complaints here. I'm stock, rooted, and xposed using greenify.
Im not complaining too, I just get used to it, battery sux on every 2015 flagship comapre to 2014 and 2016 flagships.
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I've been using the phone for the last 6 months and I'm going to change it ONLY because of the poor battery life. A 5,7" QHD LED display + SD 808 + Moto Display and a relatively small 3000 mah battery isn't a good pack if the goal is to give a decent battery life.
Ironically Lenovo somehow managed to make a SD 820 based device (Moto z) that also has a bad battery life using a small battery. If was enough do do a new X Style with amoled, SD 820 and a 3500 mah battery, but apparently it is too difficult for them.
I had my first Pure for almost a year before I had to do an RMA due to some hardware issues. When I got the replacement a couple months ago, it really highlighted how much the battery in the original had deteriorated over 10-11 months.
Granted, some of the decline was probably due to software reasons, cache building up, more apps installed, etc. But man, the move towards unibody designs and sealed batteries by Android OEMs a few years ago is one of the worst things to happen in the mobile industry. Even if you only keep your device for a year, battery life drops precipitously over that time -- nevermind, god forbid, two or three years.
I'm fairly content with the battery life on my new MXPE for now. It's not stellar for the size of the phone, but in absolute terms, it's decent enough.
ominousnimbus said:
I had my first Pure for almost a year before I had to do an RMA due to some hardware issues. When I got the replacement a couple months ago, it really highlighted how much the battery in the original had deteriorated over 10-11 months.
Granted, some of the decline was probably due to software reasons, cache building up, more apps installed, etc. But man, the move towards unibody designs and sealed batteries by Android OEMs a few years ago is one of the worst things to happen in the mobile industry. Even if you only keep your device for a year, battery life drops precipitously over that time -- nevermind, god forbid, two or three years.
I'm fairly content with the battery life on my new MXPE for now. It's not stellar for the size of the phone, but in absolute terms, it's decent enough.
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Honestly, the battery probably deteriorates the most due to Quick Charge 2.0, it is much tougher on batteries than Quick Charge 3.0, and I probably charge mine 80% of the time with a standard charger and the rest with a quick charger... I highly recommend using a standard charger whenever possible. This is not device specific, a lot of QC2.0 devices suffer from quick battery failure, not just quick charging.
I've never heard so much bs, I get on average 5h sot which for a 3000mah battery is below average, it's the high res screen that's draining, like someone said before if it was an amoled screen I'd be looking at 6-7h sot but turbo charging helps a lot oh and doesn't deteriorate the battery at all, lmfao keep using your standard charger but also wrap tin foil round your head.
acejavelin said:
Honestly, the battery probably deteriorates the most due to Quick Charge 2.0, it is much tougher on batteries than Quick Charge 3.0, and I probably charge mine 80% of the time with a standard charger and the rest with a quick charger... I highly recommend using a standard charger whenever possible. This is not device specific, a lot of QC2.0 devices suffer from quick battery failure, not just quick charging.
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I agree 100% with this! I wish I had started using the regular charger sooner. Now I have a Z Force also and while it doesn't have the form factor and front speakers of the MXPE, it's superior otherwise.
I get around two days with 3,5-4h sot or one day with ~4,5h of sot. Imo it's not that bad for such a big phone.
Thanks for all the responses everyone. I'm getting one for 200 bucks as a temp phone for a while