There's a lot of comparisons between the Thrive and the Transformer because they're both big and heavy. One aspect that the Thrive often gets points for is the user replaceable battery. I guess user replaceable batteries have two advantages:
1. Cheaper to replace the battery after it wears out
2. Possibly have spare battery charged for extended runtime.
In two years time, when the current generation of tablets start needing battery replacements because of wear, I doubt you'll be willing to spend even $50 for a user replaceable battery. There would be much better tablets out by that time. It would make more sense to dock the old tablet and use the nice screen as a picture frame or weather/traffic display.
On the other hand, it might be nice to have a spare battery for extended run time, like when traveling. The 10 hour run time on a Transformer is long enough for domestic flights, but for long overseas flights, extra capacity would be useful. However, user replaceable batteries probably have to be charged inside the device, not externally. And I wonder how much more bulk/weight is added to tablet because of the hardware needed to accommodate replaceable batteries. You need to add outside contacts, battery cover. Real estate on a handheld device is such a premium.
Have you ever replaced the battery on your cell phone? That's the closest comparable device I could think of. For some reason, I would strongly prefer replaceable batteries on my cell phone, but I don't have the same strong preference for my tablet. Maybe because most tablets are too heavy to hold one handed for any amount of time, so I feel any added weight would be a bad design choice.
What are your thoughts?
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On the other hand, it might be nice to have a spare battery for extended run time, like when traveling. The 10 hour run time on a Transformer is long enough for domestic flights, but for long overseas flights, extra capacity would be useful.
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That's another good reason to have the dock.
On my recent trip from London to Shanghai, which was a 12 hour flight, I was able to use my TF whilst in the departure lounge waiting for flight to board, and then on the plane for close to the entire duration of the flight.
In use, I did have the TF undocked for the most part, but when I wasn't using it was put straight back into the dock and the battery topped up. The dock also served as a stand for when I wanted to watch videos etc and didn't want to actually hold the TF.
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For a cell phone or laptop I prefer to have a user replaceable battery. For the tablet, I have not had such need.
I Agree.
The Thrive really had me interested with the user replaceable battery, but after much thought, I realized that I have had laptops for over three years (IMO around the time to replace) and never had to change a battery, I have had cell phones for 10 years, and never had to replace a battery. So a tablet, that I will want to replace probably in 12-18 months (actually replace in 24-30 months) will still have a very useful battery. The extra weight is not necessary.
Yea I agree. If the device is some chinese knockoff then being able to access the battery is nice but for something like this I don't see a need. The only battery I've replaced was my 6 year old laptop about a year ago.
I'm sure in 6 years, the TF's battery issues will be someone else's problem.
I'm sure hobby shops and the likes can take it apart and replace the cells.
I don't usually keep devices more than a year or two, so I don't have an issue with the sealed battery.
I don't care about the battery. I love the ports. And the possibility that one of those indicator lights will eventually be used for notifications.
It's about as important as whether a company decides to sel any.
If the TF had a replaceable battery I have no confidence they would actually sell any because as of now they can't even sell a god damn replacement AC Adapter.
For the tablet I am not as concerned because its not usually mission critical and it lasts a long ass time. I love having one for the phone though because sometimes I rape the battery and I gotta have a phone.
so what do you do on the Transformer if it hangs and you need to do a hard reboot? I know it happens every few weeks with my Fascinate, which I admittedly have been hard on with custom roms and overclocking and what not.....but at some point the thing hard locks and if you can't pull the battery what do you do?
I dont care about replacing it because it needs replacing because i will sell it long before the batteries need replacing, same with cell phones.....
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so what do you do on the Transformer if it hangs and you need to do a hard reboot? I know it happens every few weeks with my Fascinate, which I admittedly have been hard on with custom roms and overclocking and what not.....but at some point the thing hard locks and if you can't pull the battery what do you do?
I dont care about replacing it because it needs replacing because i will sell it long before the batteries need replacing, same with cell phones.....
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Hold the power button for long enough and it will reboot.
Fact: Battery technology has improved leaps and bounds in just a few short years. They'll last at least five years.
Fact: Almost no one on this forum will keep their tablets beyond 18 months. Moore's Law.
So a replaceable battery is a moot point.
Maybe it can be replaced?
Since the battery is just a piece of electronic equipment inside the tablet, which many people have already opened up, why could it not be replaced? Just not within seconds and would require tools. Anybody thought about this already?
Or am I missing something?
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Fact: Battery technology has improved leaps and bounds in just a few short years. They'll last at least five years.
Fact: Almost no one on this forum will keep their tablets beyond 18 months. Moore's Law.
So a replaceable battery is a moot point.
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But wouldn't a replaceable battery give the seller a better resale value? If I wanted to buy a used TF in say 3-4yrs for whatever reason I know I'm going to most likely have to deal with a battery issue. Unless you sold it low enough I would rather buy the thrive because I know all I would have to do is buy a new battery. I'm assuming this will be much cheaper than replacing a TF battery (labor cost as well, assuming the average user won't try to open it).
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But wouldn't a replaceable battery give the seller a better resale value? If I wanted to buy a used TF in say 3-4yrs for whatever reason I know I'm going to most likely have to deal with a battery issue. Unless you sold it low enough I would rather buy the thrive because I know all I would have to do is buy a new battery. I'm assuming this will be much cheaper than replacing a TF battery (labor cost as well, assuming the average user won't try to open it).
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Lol. Technology devalues so fast that resell value on things like tablets and cell phones is pretty much irrelevant after a year. Even then, no, having a removable battery wouldn't affect it in the least.
longevity quality and demand are really all that matters.
For example; iphone's are still very expensive even a year after they come out when purchased used, Android phones on the other hands (which have removable batteries while iphone doesn't) devalue much faster after a year then do apple products. In this case it's because of demand. There is a new android phone every month, there is a new iphone every year or so...
Battery life is dependent on three key factors, typical charge and operating temperature, and the typical charge cycle profile.
Ambient temperature regularly above thirty degrees centigrade can dramatically shorten Li ion cell life.
Not a usual concern for a consumer device user.
Letting the battery charge fall below fifty percent regularly will significantly shorten life.
Cells will lose capacity over time and the capacity after five years can be less than fifty percent of the original capacity.
Thermal design of the device, charge algorithm of the device, and quality of the cell itself also play a roll in battery life of course.
But for a consumer device I won't worry about replaceable batteries much.
One of the reasons Eee Pad is attractive to me is low cost with the expectation of quick obsolescence in twelve to eighteen months.
Think about how many replaced their iPads for iPad2 in less than a years time. Tablets with true Quad-core ARM Cortex A15 processors will be available late 2012.
I don't see much resale value for these early tablet devices.
If you want to use the devices for an enterprise application deployment that lasts say two years replaceable battery would be valuable as the failure rate escalates after one year .
The manufacturer decision to add complexity of a replaceable battery would depend on majority of customer use cases and profitability of replacement battery sales.
Japanese maker's have been known to over-engineer their designs adding cost without much end user value. Good strategy when margins were high to keep competitors out, poison in the current markets.
I never have spare battery for cellphone or laptop, i dont think I will buy extra battery. The dock is good enough.
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Here is my experience:
My wife has a 2G iphone since october 2007 its battery is almost as good as day one, still last a whole day.
On the other hand I bought spare battery for my HD2 but the poor thing never had the chance to prove being useful, most probably will end its life sitting in the drawer.
I have just ordered a Transformer from the USA
and hope that its battery will be as good as my 6 years old Asus eeepc 1000H which lasts almost 5 hours same as the day it was purchased.
Hope this helps.
Sent from my HD2 WM 6..5 USING SWYPE.
Good point guys. It makes sense.
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Battery life is not good on my Hermes, but a couple of things have seemed to make a big difference.
1) low signal areas cause will really drain the battery quickly. I guess it ramps up to output power, pretty obvious really, but quite a striking difference, I used to barely get through a working day, now I've moved jobs to a good signal area, plenty of power left at the end of the day
2) more subjective, but I *think* HTC home was making the device more power-hungry. Anyone else have this experience?
3) long-term the battery is doing very well, it's about 20 months old now and doesn't seem different from when I got the phone.
Long live the Hermes, it was an incremental stage in smartphone evolution, and nothing *massively* better has happened in the past 2 years.
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Battery life is not good on my Hermes, but a couple of things have seemed to make a big difference.
1) low signal areas cause will really drain the battery quickly. I guess it ramps up to output power, pretty obvious really, but quite a striking difference, I used to barely get through a working day, now I've moved jobs to a good signal area, plenty of power left at the end of the day
2) more subjective, but I *think* HTC home was making the device more power-hungry. Anyone else have this experience?
3) long-term the battery is doing very well, it's about 20 months old now and doesn't seem different from when I got the phone.
Long live the Hermes, it was an incremental stage in smartphone evolution, and nothing *massively* better has happened in the past 2 years.
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I have been noticing a pretty poor battery life as of late, the battery would be fully charger and watching 30 mins of coreplayer it would put it down to 20%!!
Invested in a new battery (a 1500mAh one off ebay, same physical size) and it seems to be doing the trick now.
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I have been noticing a pretty poor battery life as of late, the battery would be fully charger and watching 30 mins of coreplayer it would put it down to 20%!!
Invested in a new battery (a 1500mAh one off ebay, same physical size) and it seems to be doing the trick now.
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It's certainly around the time that all my laptop batteries have tended to start degrading.
1500mAh is 11% more than the stock one, that's nice. Does it fit without modification? Are you allowed to tell me the sellers ID?
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It's certainly around the time that all my laptop batteries have tended to start degrading.
1500mAh is 11% more than the stock one, that's nice. Does it fit without modification? Are you allowed to tell me the sellers ID?
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Lol sure! The dimensions are exactly the same, naturally you can go for a 2400 or 3000 mAh but they naturally need a modified rear cover.
This is the page i got the battery from: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-TyTn-Repl...1229071QQihZ023QQcategoryZ75446QQcmdZViewItem
Delivery was VERY quick, but I am in the UK also so take a look at the delivery times etc... totally worth getting.
I've been wanting to get this device but I am getting turned off because of the battery complaints. Is it really bad or enough to get you through the day?
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aytex said:
I've been wanting to get this device but I am getting turned off because of the battery complaints. Is it really bad or enough to get you through the day?
Thanks
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All depends... For me a full charge will go all day with about 3 hours SOT, but it varies a lot depending on WiFi access, traveling, signal strength, etc. TBH, I carry a charger and cable and tend to top off mid-afternoon of possible.
My only complaint with this device is battery life, but it's still better than my Nexus 4 was no matter how you look at it... But compared to my Moto G3 it's terrible. Is the battery life bad? I don't think so, but I would not call it good either.
Battery sux like on every snapdragon 808/810 device. Those procrssors are the most ****ed up things in mobile history.
U will get average/max 3h sot of normal usage and thats it, like on every other phone with this cpu. To compare, on xperia z2 I was getting 5h30min sot on average with the same usage.
At least battery is charging really fast, but only with original charger. With every regular charger under 1A it will be still discharging while using.
If u have money just buy something with snap820.
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Battery sux like on every snapdragon 808/810 device. Those procrssors are the most ****ed up things in mobile history.
U will get average/max 3h sot of normal usage and thats it, like on every other phone with this cpu. To compare, on xperia z2 I was getting 5h30min sot on average with the same usage.
At least battery is charging really fast, but only with original charger. With every regular charger under 1A it will be still discharging while using.
If u have money just buy something with snap820.
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It's no secret the battery life is not good with this device, but isn't because of the CPU. ~85% of the battery is used by the display in the Style/Pure because the 5.7" LED display is horrible on battery, its beautiful to look at but the battery consumption is ridiculous. The CPU is actually a minor draw of power in the device, if this phone was identical except with an energy efficient AMOLED display, getting 5-6 hours of SOT would be simple. The idle draw on this device is less than 3% per hour and if doze kicks in its under 1% per hour.
I have lg g flex 2 with 1080p oled display runing on snap810 and the story about battery is the same. Ofcourse oled display in moto x would help a little, but its not a display, its a cpu draining so much battery.
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No complaints here. I'm stock, rooted, and xposed using greenify.
Im not complaining too, I just get used to it, battery sux on every 2015 flagship comapre to 2014 and 2016 flagships.
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I've been using the phone for the last 6 months and I'm going to change it ONLY because of the poor battery life. A 5,7" QHD LED display + SD 808 + Moto Display and a relatively small 3000 mah battery isn't a good pack if the goal is to give a decent battery life.
Ironically Lenovo somehow managed to make a SD 820 based device (Moto z) that also has a bad battery life using a small battery. If was enough do do a new X Style with amoled, SD 820 and a 3500 mah battery, but apparently it is too difficult for them.
I had my first Pure for almost a year before I had to do an RMA due to some hardware issues. When I got the replacement a couple months ago, it really highlighted how much the battery in the original had deteriorated over 10-11 months.
Granted, some of the decline was probably due to software reasons, cache building up, more apps installed, etc. But man, the move towards unibody designs and sealed batteries by Android OEMs a few years ago is one of the worst things to happen in the mobile industry. Even if you only keep your device for a year, battery life drops precipitously over that time -- nevermind, god forbid, two or three years.
I'm fairly content with the battery life on my new MXPE for now. It's not stellar for the size of the phone, but in absolute terms, it's decent enough.
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I had my first Pure for almost a year before I had to do an RMA due to some hardware issues. When I got the replacement a couple months ago, it really highlighted how much the battery in the original had deteriorated over 10-11 months.
Granted, some of the decline was probably due to software reasons, cache building up, more apps installed, etc. But man, the move towards unibody designs and sealed batteries by Android OEMs a few years ago is one of the worst things to happen in the mobile industry. Even if you only keep your device for a year, battery life drops precipitously over that time -- nevermind, god forbid, two or three years.
I'm fairly content with the battery life on my new MXPE for now. It's not stellar for the size of the phone, but in absolute terms, it's decent enough.
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Honestly, the battery probably deteriorates the most due to Quick Charge 2.0, it is much tougher on batteries than Quick Charge 3.0, and I probably charge mine 80% of the time with a standard charger and the rest with a quick charger... I highly recommend using a standard charger whenever possible. This is not device specific, a lot of QC2.0 devices suffer from quick battery failure, not just quick charging.
I've never heard so much bs, I get on average 5h sot which for a 3000mah battery is below average, it's the high res screen that's draining, like someone said before if it was an amoled screen I'd be looking at 6-7h sot but turbo charging helps a lot oh and doesn't deteriorate the battery at all, lmfao keep using your standard charger but also wrap tin foil round your head.
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Honestly, the battery probably deteriorates the most due to Quick Charge 2.0, it is much tougher on batteries than Quick Charge 3.0, and I probably charge mine 80% of the time with a standard charger and the rest with a quick charger... I highly recommend using a standard charger whenever possible. This is not device specific, a lot of QC2.0 devices suffer from quick battery failure, not just quick charging.
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I agree 100% with this! I wish I had started using the regular charger sooner. Now I have a Z Force also and while it doesn't have the form factor and front speakers of the MXPE, it's superior otherwise.
I get around two days with 3,5-4h sot or one day with ~4,5h of sot. Imo it's not that bad for such a big phone.
Thanks for all the responses everyone. I'm getting one for 200 bucks as a temp phone for a while
I've just popped in a mugen battery in my xl, I must say, its big and heavy,
if anyone is interested I can post some photo's and l'll update to let ou know how I get on, my primary reason for this was the difficulty of knowing if a battery is genuine, I've bought 4 cheap ones from china all stamped official but don't seem to match the original battery, all of them seem to last less than the original, although my original had double in physical size and would no longer fit in the case, so I thought i'd take a gamble on mugen, I would of bought a standard size one from them as I've found them to be good in the past.
so far all battery monitoring apps state the capacity as the same as the cheap ones and the original which makes me think they just list the spec for the phone and don't check, does anyone know if there is a battery app for windows phone that can correctly find the capacity?
I got the battery from amazon after contacting mugen asking if they can put it in stock on amazon as my only other option was to ship from USA which was coming to almost £100
I paid £62 delivered, if its ok to post links i'll post one to the thread.
This battery is making me consider getting a 950, it looks a lot more compact the extended one for that!
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only been using it 5 days, charged twice, both times had more than 30% left I just didn't want it to run out in the day.
Battery easily lasts 2 days usage but will need charging on the second night.
Phone hasn't crashed once since using this mugen battery, and this is during Britain's heatwave, haver taken around 70 photo's, usually it would of crashed at least once doing that sometimes every other photo, it still gets very hot but then I've only been using it so far in this hot weather.
I actually prefer the feel of the phone with this mugen case, feels a lot nicer to hold, its weighty but after a couple of days I got used to the weight and the feel and do prefer it, although I still think it looks silly, others have laughed at my brick phone but held it themselves and thought it felt nice, interestingly it seems to weigh about the same as a colleagues iPhone 7 big screen thingy which really surprised me.
Charging seems to take the same amount of time as the cheap ebay battery which I find most confusing
I've had some weird vibration noise when audio is active that seems to be from the case not fitting 100% perfect, I'm currently using the black one so, will try the white case in a couple of weeks and see if there is a difference, its very infrequent, and pressing the case together with the phone stops it which makes me think its not fitting 100% and causing a vibration.
Its a shame mugen don't make a standard sized 950xl battery, as at least you know it should be a quality product and it comes with a 12 month warranty which interestingly is double what the battery came with when new, at least in the UK the battery only has a 6 month warranty which makes me think Microsoft knew it was a weak point of the phone? although that's just me taking a stab in the dark and being bitter about having a naff battery in the phone.
Would I recommend this? Absolutely! but not if you care about your phones looks, if function is better than fashion buy one today, if fashion is more important, get a mozo and enjoy the QI charging which is something I do sorely miss.
After 3 days of regular usage I'm on 25% left, charged sat morning 100% at around 8 am now Monday night with 25% left, fantastic is all I can ?
this?
https://mugenbattery.com/shop/nokia...d-9300mah-battery-for-microsoft-lumia-950-xl/
is uuugly... my original 1,5 year battery still works good and hold 26 hours...
That's the one, I bought it in the UK 950XL Battery Amazon
Not gonna lie, it is ugly but after a few days it sits nice in the hand, if my original ms battery hadn't killed itself I probably wouldn't of looked at this, but there I something amazing about having a powerful smartphone with a battery life that can be measured in days, for me the non crashing of the phone is the biggest appeal
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I've just popped in a mugen battery in my xl, I must say, its big and heavy,
if anyone is interested I can post some photo's and l'll update to let ou know how I get on, my primary reason for this was the difficulty of knowing if a battery is genuine.
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can u post some photos of how the device looks with the extended battery?
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That's the one, I bought it in the UK 950XL Battery Amazon
Not gonna lie, it is ugly but after a few days it sits nice in the hand, if my original ms battery hadn't killed itself I probably wouldn't of looked at this, but there I something amazing about having a powerful smartphone with a battery life that can be measured in days, for me the non crashing of the phone is the biggest appeal
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Hi, I'm also a Lumia 950XL owner and was considering about getting the same big 9300 mAh battery (as I think you have that one, am I correct? ).
But in the 2nd screenshot it shows you don't have Cell Coverage at all.
I've been having issues with crashes, random reboots, battery drain within 12hours, and loss of Cell Coverage a lot with my current original Microsoft battery that came with the phone when I got I about 3 years ago (end of 2015).
I've ordered a replacement battery (that they said was an original Microsoft battery) from a shop in The Netherlands, but when I got the battery, it didn't even last 8 hours after fully charging it. And after inspecting the said battery, I emailed the shop about concerns about authenticity , cause the casing of the battery was really **** (pardon my words). The bottom of the battery almost pealed of and the wrapping really didn't look at all like the original MS battery.
It's been some time since this post was last updated, so I was wondering if you were still using the Mugen Battery that you ordered with your Lumia 950XL .. . And ofcourse how it's been holding up after a year of usage?
Any advice is welcome,
The battery is holding up well, sadly, I have issues with the phone now, about 3 months ago there is something around the battery terminals that seems to be coming from inside the handset, for many months the phone was flawless, but I'm not sure if fluid has leaked out of the heat pipe now, is that even possible? when it gets very hot it freezes. Sadly I'm now on an android phone, but keep debating buying another 950 xl, the battery really helped keeping it. Easily 2 days even with heavy usage, I'm not sure why I had no cell at the time, generally it has excellent signal and didn't affect handset quality, biggest gripe was missing wireless charging, but then due to the size of the battery it wasn't so much of an issuse.
Off topic, but keeping the phone to use as a camera as clearly no android handset marches it yet, pixel is the closest after playing with so many, but considering its over twice what I paid for the 950xl I can't face buying it, the p20 Pro was very disappointing side by side comparison, again for the price disappointing.
Good day guys
since a couple of months I noticed that the battery life of my Pixel C has greatly diminished and also has started switch of at a battery level of 10-30% percent while being very slow starting from around 50%. For that reason I am looking for a new battery since quite a while, since apart from the battery the device is still in perfect shape and more than fast enough for me. In short: I don't what to ditch it just jet, also since there is no worthy successor to it.
I found the battery model on iFixit [Step 5], but there seems to be no supplier left with stock in the internet. Does anyone here know a source of Pixel C batteries. Or does someone know compatible third party cells, which somehow would fit into the housing? Judging from the photos the battery packs seem only to be one cell each. [Step 12]
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Google+Pixel+C+Teardown/62277
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since a couple of months I noticed that the battery life of my Pixel C has greatly diminished
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Mine has not yet but, as it was a very expensive purchase, I rationed my usage to situations the Pixel C was best for and kept it cool stored at 70% charged and fully charged it only when I needed its Pixel goodness. I use Pixel C as a laptop alternative when I need a robust 10" type size which is mostly on long business trips involving flying and want something to fit in carry-on bags.
I agree, for some situations it has yet to be improved, that magnetic keyboard is sublime, and I loath the future day I have the same problem as you now.
Not necessarily a helpful direct answer but a workaround is to buy a USB power bank and keep it connected when you're sat down. I know, not ideal, but its cheap, you can carry 10Ah for about $20, 20Ah for about $30 and the biggest you can buy are 100Wh 27Ah I got one for $30. If you use it offensively, so in advance, it will also reduce how many charge cycles your Pixel has to do so extends it future life. I usually travel with my Pixel C with the 26800mAh powerbank to reduce its wear, and that also gives me a very long day off-grid without incurring a deep cycle (of the few remaining within the Pixel C).
The other trick is ensure no moisture is inside it and freeze it inside an airtight bag, that can sometimes extend an old battery life, but use that trick at your own risk.
Bought a used LG-AS993 and the AccuBattery app says that it's battery health is at 85%. So instead of a 3,300 mAh battery I'm working with 2,808 mAh. I'm wondering if there's a more accurate way to test it or if I should return it and get a replacement.
Any ideas?
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I dont think AccuBattery is absolutely exact. See it more like a hint of the actual state.
My G6 battery state was 108% after the first charge, and quickly dropped to 96% after 10 charges. Even if the phone was brand new.
My LG G4 was quickly reported as 82%, even if i have an LG guaranteed original battery manufactured 4 months ago.
So no, i wouldnt change it yet.
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I dont think AccuBattery is absolutely exact. See it more like a hint of the actual state.
My G6 battery state was 108% after the first charge, and quickly dropped to 96% after 10 charges. Even if the phone was brand new.
My LG G4 was quickly reported as 82%, even if i have an LG guaranteed original battery manufactured 4 months ago.
So no, i wouldnt change it yet.
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I think you are right because after a year of relatively heavy use my battery is still as brand new which can't be right.
Also just keep in mind that an OEM replacement battery is approximately $10 on Ebay right now. So you can worst-case just swap to a brand-spanking new battery, assuming you are OK following directions for pulling off the back plate using a heater (see youtube videos for battery change LG G6).
I have noticed that the less you charge, the less accurate the battery health function seems to get.
If i charge only 20% a couple of times, then the health percentage will drop. And if i charge it from 25% to full the health percentage will rise again.
If the battery charge recommendations are followed ( 40% - 80% charging every time), then the health numbers seems to become more inaccurate.
Quite understandable since it is easier for the app to calculate the health during longer charge sessions.
But at the same time counterproductive since the best way to get a long lasting battery is to charge 40 - 80%.....
So.... forget about the health tab, just charge it to maximum 80% and the battery will last longer than the phone....
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So.... forget about the health tab, just charge it
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I think that's good advice, to forget about the battery health, for two reasons: 1) Why would you even trust the "health" judgment provided by the app, which is demonstrably unhelpful and imprecise, and 2) Why invite more worry and stress over the battery which decreases your enjoyment of the phone?
Maybe we could also discuss the general schools of thought about the pros and cons of worrying about battery health.
But overall I feel like you should weigh and compare the benefits of worrying vs the benefits of not worrying. I mean, the way I think about it, is that if you apply the absolute worst treatment and abuse to your battery, you are *STILL* going to come out in a better situation than if you try to worry about the battery health.
For example, you incur a definite cost by adding extra hassle to your life of trying to just charge to 80%. So you get all the hassle, but what do you gain for all that hassle? Have you quantified what gains you get, after 6 months, after 1 year, after 2 years?
The tiny gains you enjoy after 2 years are *NOT* worth 2 years of extra hassle.
Couldn't have stated it better.
BTW I have used AccuBattery on a new tablet that I have, and it also gives variable results that aren't very helpful.
So I agree. Just enjoy your device and don't bother with these apps, unless there is some real problem to diagnose
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I think that's good advice, to forget about the battery health, for two reasons: 1) Why would you even trust the "health" judgment provided by the app, which is demonstrably unhelpful and imprecise, and 2) Why invite more worry and stress over the battery which decreases your enjoyment of the phone?
Maybe we could also discuss the general schools of thought about the pros and cons of worrying about battery health.
But overall I feel like you should weigh and compare the benefits of worrying vs the benefits of not worrying. I mean, the way I think about it, is that if you apply the absolute worst treatment and abuse to your battery, you are *STILL* going to come out in a better situation than if you try to worry about the battery health.
For example, you incur a definite cost by adding extra hassle to your life of trying to just charge to 80%. So you get all the hassle, but what do you gain for all that hassle? Have you quantified what gains you get, after 6 months, after 1 year, after 2 years?
The tiny gains you enjoy after 2 years are *NOT* worth 2 years of extra hassle.
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