I've just popped in a mugen battery in my xl, I must say, its big and heavy,
if anyone is interested I can post some photo's and l'll update to let ou know how I get on, my primary reason for this was the difficulty of knowing if a battery is genuine, I've bought 4 cheap ones from china all stamped official but don't seem to match the original battery, all of them seem to last less than the original, although my original had double in physical size and would no longer fit in the case, so I thought i'd take a gamble on mugen, I would of bought a standard size one from them as I've found them to be good in the past.
so far all battery monitoring apps state the capacity as the same as the cheap ones and the original which makes me think they just list the spec for the phone and don't check, does anyone know if there is a battery app for windows phone that can correctly find the capacity?
I got the battery from amazon after contacting mugen asking if they can put it in stock on amazon as my only other option was to ship from USA which was coming to almost £100
I paid £62 delivered, if its ok to post links i'll post one to the thread.
This battery is making me consider getting a 950, it looks a lot more compact the extended one for that!
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only been using it 5 days, charged twice, both times had more than 30% left I just didn't want it to run out in the day.
Battery easily lasts 2 days usage but will need charging on the second night.
Phone hasn't crashed once since using this mugen battery, and this is during Britain's heatwave, haver taken around 70 photo's, usually it would of crashed at least once doing that sometimes every other photo, it still gets very hot but then I've only been using it so far in this hot weather.
I actually prefer the feel of the phone with this mugen case, feels a lot nicer to hold, its weighty but after a couple of days I got used to the weight and the feel and do prefer it, although I still think it looks silly, others have laughed at my brick phone but held it themselves and thought it felt nice, interestingly it seems to weigh about the same as a colleagues iPhone 7 big screen thingy which really surprised me.
Charging seems to take the same amount of time as the cheap ebay battery which I find most confusing
I've had some weird vibration noise when audio is active that seems to be from the case not fitting 100% perfect, I'm currently using the black one so, will try the white case in a couple of weeks and see if there is a difference, its very infrequent, and pressing the case together with the phone stops it which makes me think its not fitting 100% and causing a vibration.
Its a shame mugen don't make a standard sized 950xl battery, as at least you know it should be a quality product and it comes with a 12 month warranty which interestingly is double what the battery came with when new, at least in the UK the battery only has a 6 month warranty which makes me think Microsoft knew it was a weak point of the phone? although that's just me taking a stab in the dark and being bitter about having a naff battery in the phone.
Would I recommend this? Absolutely! but not if you care about your phones looks, if function is better than fashion buy one today, if fashion is more important, get a mozo and enjoy the QI charging which is something I do sorely miss.
After 3 days of regular usage I'm on 25% left, charged sat morning 100% at around 8 am now Monday night with 25% left, fantastic is all I can ?
this?
https://mugenbattery.com/shop/nokia...d-9300mah-battery-for-microsoft-lumia-950-xl/
is uuugly... my original 1,5 year battery still works good and hold 26 hours...
That's the one, I bought it in the UK 950XL Battery Amazon
Not gonna lie, it is ugly but after a few days it sits nice in the hand, if my original ms battery hadn't killed itself I probably wouldn't of looked at this, but there I something amazing about having a powerful smartphone with a battery life that can be measured in days, for me the non crashing of the phone is the biggest appeal
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I've just popped in a mugen battery in my xl, I must say, its big and heavy,
if anyone is interested I can post some photo's and l'll update to let ou know how I get on, my primary reason for this was the difficulty of knowing if a battery is genuine.
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can u post some photos of how the device looks with the extended battery?
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That's the one, I bought it in the UK 950XL Battery Amazon
Not gonna lie, it is ugly but after a few days it sits nice in the hand, if my original ms battery hadn't killed itself I probably wouldn't of looked at this, but there I something amazing about having a powerful smartphone with a battery life that can be measured in days, for me the non crashing of the phone is the biggest appeal
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Hi, I'm also a Lumia 950XL owner and was considering about getting the same big 9300 mAh battery (as I think you have that one, am I correct? ).
But in the 2nd screenshot it shows you don't have Cell Coverage at all.
I've been having issues with crashes, random reboots, battery drain within 12hours, and loss of Cell Coverage a lot with my current original Microsoft battery that came with the phone when I got I about 3 years ago (end of 2015).
I've ordered a replacement battery (that they said was an original Microsoft battery) from a shop in The Netherlands, but when I got the battery, it didn't even last 8 hours after fully charging it. And after inspecting the said battery, I emailed the shop about concerns about authenticity , cause the casing of the battery was really **** (pardon my words). The bottom of the battery almost pealed of and the wrapping really didn't look at all like the original MS battery.
It's been some time since this post was last updated, so I was wondering if you were still using the Mugen Battery that you ordered with your Lumia 950XL .. . And ofcourse how it's been holding up after a year of usage?
Any advice is welcome,
The battery is holding up well, sadly, I have issues with the phone now, about 3 months ago there is something around the battery terminals that seems to be coming from inside the handset, for many months the phone was flawless, but I'm not sure if fluid has leaked out of the heat pipe now, is that even possible? when it gets very hot it freezes. Sadly I'm now on an android phone, but keep debating buying another 950 xl, the battery really helped keeping it. Easily 2 days even with heavy usage, I'm not sure why I had no cell at the time, generally it has excellent signal and didn't affect handset quality, biggest gripe was missing wireless charging, but then due to the size of the battery it wasn't so much of an issuse.
Off topic, but keeping the phone to use as a camera as clearly no android handset marches it yet, pixel is the closest after playing with so many, but considering its over twice what I paid for the 950xl I can't face buying it, the p20 Pro was very disappointing side by side comparison, again for the price disappointing.
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Battery life is not good on my Hermes, but a couple of things have seemed to make a big difference.
1) low signal areas cause will really drain the battery quickly. I guess it ramps up to output power, pretty obvious really, but quite a striking difference, I used to barely get through a working day, now I've moved jobs to a good signal area, plenty of power left at the end of the day
2) more subjective, but I *think* HTC home was making the device more power-hungry. Anyone else have this experience?
3) long-term the battery is doing very well, it's about 20 months old now and doesn't seem different from when I got the phone.
Long live the Hermes, it was an incremental stage in smartphone evolution, and nothing *massively* better has happened in the past 2 years.
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Battery life is not good on my Hermes, but a couple of things have seemed to make a big difference.
1) low signal areas cause will really drain the battery quickly. I guess it ramps up to output power, pretty obvious really, but quite a striking difference, I used to barely get through a working day, now I've moved jobs to a good signal area, plenty of power left at the end of the day
2) more subjective, but I *think* HTC home was making the device more power-hungry. Anyone else have this experience?
3) long-term the battery is doing very well, it's about 20 months old now and doesn't seem different from when I got the phone.
Long live the Hermes, it was an incremental stage in smartphone evolution, and nothing *massively* better has happened in the past 2 years.
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I have been noticing a pretty poor battery life as of late, the battery would be fully charger and watching 30 mins of coreplayer it would put it down to 20%!!
Invested in a new battery (a 1500mAh one off ebay, same physical size) and it seems to be doing the trick now.
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I have been noticing a pretty poor battery life as of late, the battery would be fully charger and watching 30 mins of coreplayer it would put it down to 20%!!
Invested in a new battery (a 1500mAh one off ebay, same physical size) and it seems to be doing the trick now.
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It's certainly around the time that all my laptop batteries have tended to start degrading.
1500mAh is 11% more than the stock one, that's nice. Does it fit without modification? Are you allowed to tell me the sellers ID?
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It's certainly around the time that all my laptop batteries have tended to start degrading.
1500mAh is 11% more than the stock one, that's nice. Does it fit without modification? Are you allowed to tell me the sellers ID?
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Lol sure! The dimensions are exactly the same, naturally you can go for a 2400 or 3000 mAh but they naturally need a modified rear cover.
This is the page i got the battery from: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-TyTn-Repl...1229071QQihZ023QQcategoryZ75446QQcmdZViewItem
Delivery was VERY quick, but I am in the UK also so take a look at the delivery times etc... totally worth getting.
I have just got a new battery from HongKong for my HD.
It is 1500 mAh and they claim 50-80% longer use after 2 or 3 charge cycles.
it is an X level High Capacity made by Momax, a very large company making batteries for many companies. Comes in full retail blister pack and is specific for the HD. I have used a normal Momax before but not the X Level, will report after a few days use.
Cost me USD $20 from Ebay about £13. ordered on 21st December and arrived today. Ebay seller is eshopmomax. their web site is www.shop.momax.net, included was a discount voucher for HKD $17 off my next purchase before Dec 2009..
oooh, sounds nice! Will eagerly look forward to your next post on this.
I wonder how much they pay for advertisement on this forums
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I have just got a new battery from HongKong for my HD.
It is 1500 mAh and they claim 50-80% longer use after 2 or 3 charge cycles.
it is an X level High Capacity made by Momax, a very large company making batteries for many companies. Comes in full retail blister pack and is specific for the HD. I have used a normal Momax before but not the X Level, will report after a few days use.
Cost me USD $20 from Ebay about £13. ordered on 21st December and arrived today. Ebay seller is eshopmomax. their web site is www.shop.momax.net, included was a discount voucher for HKD $17 off my next purchase before Dec 2009..
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Sorry but you will not get anywhere neat 50% improvement.At most you will get about 12% improvement going from 1350 to 1500. Claiming that the capacity will increase from 1500 to over 2000mah in several charges is very odd. Why not advertise it as a 2000mah battery - simply because it cant.
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I assumed this was a forum to share information with others. I only wrote what I thought would be of interest. If I have this wrong, my apologies, I will not bother in the future and no I am not paid by them. I just quoted information from their advert.
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I assumed this was a forum to share information with others. I only wrote what I thought would be of interest. If I have this wrong, my apologies, I will not bother in the future and no I am not paid by them. I just quoted information from their advert.
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You don't need to apologize, friend. Keep telling us about your experience with this battery. I'm interested.
Thank you for your information. Dont bother with some people who made perhaps bad experience.
Really interesting site, interesting stuff and amazing shipping costs.
I'm insterrested too to know if there is really a difference. I'm a very big user of the PDA and my battery is empty in 10 hours
Yep,
Here too. I have to re-charge every evening/night.
Momax just got a new customer...
I'm interested too in knowing the performance of the high capacity battery after say 1 month. I ordered an after market one before but it became useless quite quickly. So this time, I ordered two original battery manufactured by HTC. I have the spare with me so that I need not stinge in the usage.
Interested as well... because after a month somehow my normal battery lasts somewhat more than half a day, even with medium-low phone usage (no Bt, wifi or data)
So, if this is the standard of the proper HTC battery, i'm more than interested maybe in a better quality and even aftermarket higher capacity battery.
Keep us posted on your experience (shipping, battery life etc...)
Update: Just ordered a battery, charger and silicon case for <40 Euro inc. shipping... might as well try myself
Every night?????
It sounds me terrific.
Me, in your shoes, should review my connection settings. Possibly, someone is connecting unceasingly and draining your battery.
Three days ago, I travel Pamplona to Malaga (near 1000 Km.), using GPS, phone, mp3, ebook reading, data connecting...
Yesterday I have returned, and, yes, I must to re-charging (7 %). Two complete days of intense use.
Think deeply who's eating your power, mate.
Regards.
Nacho Garcia.
I too seem to be able to get two days of intense usage before battery runs out. HD really surprised me with its incredibly long battery life. I might not have bought the extra battery had I known that the battery is that good. However, with the extra battery, I start forming the habbit of letting it run to warning level before charging in order to prolong its life, and I carry the spare when I see that the remaining level is getting low.
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I too seem to be able to get two days of intense usage before battery runs out. HD really surprised me with its incredibly long battery life. I might not have bought the extra battery had I known that the battery is that good. However, with the extra battery, I start forming the habbit of letting it run to warning level before charging in order to prolong its life, and I carry the spare when I see that the remaining level is getting low.
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With my standard battery I would take it off charge and with moderate use (2 or 3 calls and check emails every hour by the time I got home after 8 hours battery was on about 20-25% so had to charge every night. Put in the new battery about 10am Yesterday, again low/moderate use when I went to bed at 11pm it was on 30%. By the time I got up this morning it was flat. Dont know what is draining the power.....
just bought one from momax yesterday and paid via paypal, it´s already on the way, I´ve been mailed a tracking number. Very quick service
Among others, both wifi and dataconnections will sap power, but you might just have a bad battery. Using the tweaks found on this forum (read the wiki) there's an option to release the dataconnection if unused (just like the standard wifi option) which might help. Perhaps you could buy one of these high capacity ones seeing as they're not expensive (otherwise you wouldn't have the HD ) and see if it makes a difference?
I live in HK and I bought mine Momex weeks ago, however, it's slightly bigger than the original and the battery cover was popped out a little bit around the volume button..didn't use that thereafter.... just thinking to buy a spare original one when it comes out in HK.
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I live in HK and I bought mine Momex weeks ago, however, it's slightly bigger than the original and the battery cover was popped out a little bit around the volume button..
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Say WHAT!? Did anyone else get that too?
Hi, I been having the HTC Surround for a little over a week now. I love the look and feel to it (I know OS wise it has a lot of improvements to do but I'm willing to put up with it for a bit, considering its a new OS). However one thing I notice is that it has horrible battery life! The phone last about 10/12 Hrs on a full charge. During this time period, there is no heavy use; tops 50 txt messages send and received, about an hour of music, screen lock (brightness set to low, when on), perhaps 15 minutes of talk time, data connection turn off, about 20 minutes of WiFi (I turn off WiFi when not in use), rest of the time on stand by as mention before (with the screen locked). Another thing i noticed yesterday night was that my phone was charge completely, i left it on stand by and within 5 hrs that i slept the phone had gone a little lower than 3/4ths (data connection was off).
I read a post here that said battery may drain quicker when phone is left in cold weather and i thought maybe this could be the case. However I'm really skeptical because i live in Los Angeles. Cold weather, which is this time of the year, is mid 40 degrees at its lowest! That's not cold! But anyways i guess I'll try putting that theory on a test (imma try keeping it warm, see if it makes a difference)
so is anyone else experiencing horrible battery life? Or am I just an unlucky person who got a defective battery?
THANKS in advance
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Hi, I been having the HTC Surround for a little over a week now. I love the look and feel to it (I know OS wise it has a lot of improvements to do but I'm willing to put up with it for a bit, considering its a new OS). However one thing I notice is that it has horrible battery life! The phone last about 10/12 Hrs on a full charge. During this time period, there is no heavy use; tops 50 txt messages send and received, about an hour of music, screen lock (brightness set to low, when on), perhaps 15 minutes of talk time, data connection turn off, about 20 minutes of WiFi (I turn off WiFi when not in use), rest of the time on stand by as mention before (with the screen locked). Another thing i noticed yesterday night was that my phone was charge completely, i left it on stand by and within 5 hrs that i slept the phone had gone a little lower than 3/4ths (data connection was off).
I read a post here that said battery may drain quicker when phone is left in cold weather and i thought maybe this could be the case. However I'm really skeptical because i live in Los Angeles. Cold weather, which is this time of the year, is mid 40 degrees at its lowest! That's not cold! But anyways i guess I'll try putting that theory on a test (imma try keeping it warm, see if it makes a difference)
so is anyone else experiencing horrible battery life? Or am I just an unlucky person who got a defective battery?
THANKS in advance
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What "theme" are you using?
If I don't use my phone, it will last for days. Even when I use it through out the day, it lasts well into the next morning/afternoon.
The battery life does get better the more you drain/charge it.
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I'm using a black background and lime tiles...
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If I don't use my phone, it will last for days. Even when I use it through out the day, it lasts well into the next morning/afternoon.
The battery life does get better the more you drain/charge it.
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well, I been having it for a week now. I seen no difference in battery life. But imma give it another week or so. See if this works. Then I'm gonna try buying different battery. If that doesn't help, I think I'm going to have to switch back to my Samsung Captivate. I would hate doing this, but this type of battery life is a deal breaker. Today, it was even worse! It lasted me only 9hrs while I was at work, which at least 8 of those hrs it was on stand by!
Sounds like you have a bad battery, bro. I'd get it replaced at the store you bought it from.
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Sounds like you have a bad battery, bro. I'd get it replaced at the store you bought it from.
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yeah, I'm going to try this on my day off which is on Monday. Also gives me time to test out the other persons suggestion
thanks for your opinions. I'll get back to you guys and see what happens.
My surround - now two weeks old is showing much improved battery life. It didn't make it through a day when I first got it. Part of that was due to my fiddling with it and part due - I think - to the battery conditioning.
Now, it is going a full day on a charge. I am also switching off 3G and on WiFi when I am in my office or home. It is a bit of a pain in the butt and I hope that M$ gives up some APIs soon so that someone - cough Bruce Jackson cough - will write an app. We'll see.
I have noticed that the Bluetooth drains the battery considerably faster. Try turning Bluetooth off when you don't need it.
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I have noticed that the Bluetooth drains the battery considerably faster. Try turning Bluetooth off when you don't need it.
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I don't use the Bluetooth at all. So this can't be the problem. but thanks anyways. (I might need this information since I was planing on using one in the near future).
So I notice that now, my Surround does get better battery life. (which is absolutely crazy! since now I have the screen brightness on medium and data turn on lol). I guess the battery just needed to be use and charge a bit more. However, I still think battery life could be improved. (hopefully, future updates will teak some system settings that will do this)
I have also decided that I will keep my Surround instead of going back to my Captivate I wish battery life would be better and the OS to be more "open" but truth be told, I fell in love with my phone haha Then when i went back to my Samsung Captivate, it felt weird. Android felt much slower.
So i gave it a little test; I launched messaging, email, music, browser, etc on both phones at the same time. Turns out both of them launch these native applications in the same amount of time.
I guess what makes WP7 fell smother and faster is the (eyecandy) transitions.
think its the battery
ya i have had mine for 2 weeks now and i think the problem is the fact that the battery is a 1230mAh, and we also have a samsung focus with a 1450mAh battery that will last an exra 2-3 hours longer which makes a huge difference! im hoping htc will make a larger mAh battery avaliable, mine will only last anywhere from 5-7 hours from normal use
I just ordered a Mugen 1300mah battery..not *much* more capacity, but hopefully it helps a bit!
if i dont use my surround (like not using too much 3g, wifi, music, gaming, and just normal phone calls and texts) it can last a whole day and probably a lil more, but when i do too much 3g/wifi/gaming/music it drains quickkkkkk.
and i do hope htc will have a larger capacity battery for the surround soon... 1230 is kinda small compare to other phones nowadays..
but still this has much better battery life than my previous phones (diamond2 and touchpro)
i just find myself carrying the usb cable and wall charger alot in my bag :]
and having a car charger is a plus also.
My girlfreind has had the phone since xmas. Initially the battery would lose its charge very quickly. I had her do a bump charge and just let the battery settle in. She can now go up a third day wothout the need for a charge with moderate txt.
Be aware the quick drop whenn taking it off the charger is NORMAL. Read this thread for a discussion of that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
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Agree - Bad Battery Life - But not as bad as some....
Smart phones, in general, aren't what I would call great at conserving battery life under any condition. Pick any model of high-end smart phone and tell me who can get more than 2 days (using every trick in the book to eliminate unnecessary drain). Yes, this phone is under-powered in terms of only having a 1300 mAh battery when it should have a 1400 or 1500.
Cut the unnecessary stuff when you are not using it - Bluetooth, WiFi, etc.
You can easily get a day + out of this phone with moderate/mixed use (some talking, some browsing, some multi-media viewing). That's pretty good, I'd say (from my relative experience across many different types of smart phones). I just plug it in every night.....pick it up in the morning and go. Haven't had any issues with it running out during the day.
Now, if you are starting first thing in the morning and running movies, have the bluetooth going, the WiFi on........well, heck yes, you are going to have a battery drain problem. If you want to run it that way.....just leave it plugged in.
Has anyone used a Seidio Innocell 1300mAh Replacement battery? Was wondering if it was worth the investment to improve the Surround's poor battery performance.
Thanks,
So...when is someone gonna step up to the plate and improve battery technology? It really sucks that these phone manufacturers are giving us ALL these fancy features that drain the battery and when we complain about having poor battery life they are telling us to not use all those fancy features...kinda defeats the purpose of buying a smartphone, am I right?
guys .. wake PLZ UP ))
1 ghz (1-2 core cpu ) ..
3.8 and more screen ..
DEDICATED GRAPHICS .
OS .
with DIRECTX9 Interface .
and that all spiced up with 1600 ma battery in best case .
and that you wana to run more then 6 hours on full load ? say THX TO MS .. for NON multitask os .. overwise battery life was even more lol then this
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My surround - now two weeks old is showing much improved battery life. It didn't make it through a day when I first got it. Part of that was due to my fiddling with it and part due - I think - to the battery conditioning.
Now, it is going a full day on a charge. I am also switching off 3G and on WiFi when I am in my office or home. It is a bit of a pain in the butt and I hope that M$ gives up some APIs soon so that someone - cough Bruce Jackson cough - will write an app. We'll see.
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I noticed this as well. As time went by the battery actually started to last longer. When i first got it i used it less than i do now and the battery would die before i even got home for work. Now it lasts till about an hour or so after i finish and get home.
does the surround use the same battery as the HTC desire HD?
Theres an ebay seller that is selling a surround battery and wall charger but the wall charger has a sticker that says: For HTC Desire HD
Help me out here, I think my G2 which used to be a battery champ is now absolutely awful. I don't really know if it's the phone going wrong or my different usage and the way apps might have evolved.
I think the phone is also heating up way more than it used to do. In fact, I never used to notice the phone getting warm at all and never knew what people with SD810 phones were talking about. If I happen to run a game like Boom Beach or Fallout Shelter for 5 minutes, not only the battery suffers a huge drop, the phone gets almost uncomfortably hot (*). These games can kill the battery in 1:30 hours of SOT which I think isn't probably normal.
The numbers I now have to show are of the phone fully charged last night before going to bed, turning the phone off and then turning it on to clean running ups, etc and left idle while sleeping.
Went to bed with a full battery at around 4:30 AM and it's now 15:46 and battery is down to 64%. Turned the screen at 13:00 to see notifications and browse through news, made a single phone call that must have lasted less than 10 minutes. Pictures, although I think they won't help much except for the SOT:
I bought this phone used and I think it was refurbished. Came from Spain (I'm in Portugal) and happens to be an AT&T version. Screen was always a bit dark and a panel that I believe has been replaced. I think the screen is also going, sometimes it won't respond to touches on the far right edge.
I have it running on the official Lollipop firmware that I manually flashed (no OTA here) but I've tried different ROMs to see if they make any difference (Cloudy 2.2 and 3.3., CM13 and Blisspop Marshmallow). They don't, battery behavior is the same, phone heats up.
I need to know if this is normal for you guys still using the phone (software evolves and maybe things are more demanding on this old phone) or if something is wrong with mine. If it is, I need to think about sending it for repair (probably not worth it) or get a new one.
Not the best of times for me to be spending money on stuff like this but I'm really starting not to trust this phone, carrying the charger with me all the time and have a nasty suspetion screen might die for good one of these days.
Any feedback much appreciated!!
(*) Gets hot mainly on the top back, near the camera lens. Sometimes screen gets also hot but I think it might be due to heat transfer from the back.
I would replace the battery. Li-on batteries typically don't last for more than two to three years. Useful life span depends on how deep the average usage cycle is. I typically try to keep them from going below 40%. An old battery that no longer holds a good charge can cause similar problems. Most rechargeable batteries, including lead-acid automotive batteries in general, suffer from deep cycle charging.
My $0.02
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I would replace the battery. Li-on batteries typically don't last for more than two to three years. Useful life span depends on how deep the average usage cycle is. I typically try to keep them from going below 40%. An old battery that no longer holds a good charge can cause similar problems. Most rechargeable batteries, including lead-acid automotive batteries in general, suffer from deep cycle charging.
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Yeh, I know...
I tested it a bit more and at least now I know it is definitely draining way faster than it ever did and I don't see anything that is especially killing the battery (kept off games that I don't even play so much anyway). Oh well, time for a new one I guess. I have been postponing buying one until all these new 2016 main phones came out and they are all pretty much out already.
After running certain apps, or sometimes after connecting to USB in the car, the G2 will go into an overheating condition, with the battery charge rapidly falling. I just reboot it to clear it, and it's back to normal.
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After running certain apps, or sometimes after connecting to USB in the car, the G2 will go into an overheating condition, with the battery charge rapidly falling. I just reboot it to clear it, and it's back to normal.
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Tried that, even made two more factory re-sets. No good, same results... poor thing is going, I'm already convinced of that. It's draining about 1% per minute with screen on, regardless of what I'm doing. About 12% drain with it just sitting on my night table for 6 hours while I was sleeping.
Trying to find a replacement now which is driving me insane.
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Tried that, even made two more factory re-sets. No good, same results... poor thing is going, I'm already convinced of that. It's draining about 1% per minute with screen on, regardless of what I'm doing. About 12% drain with it just sitting on my night table for 6 hours while I was sleeping.
Trying to find a replacement now which is driving me insane.
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Well, replacement batteries are a lot cheaper than phones. Why not replace the battery, and squeeze a little more life out of it? Would also serve as a backup phone after you do get a replacement.
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Well, replacement batteries are a lot cheaper than phones. Why not replace the battery, and squeeze a little more life out of it? Would also serve as a backup phone after you do get a replacement.
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I'm pretty sure battery isn't the only thing going bad, screen sometimes doesn't respond or respond weird. Mine is already a refurbished unit that I bought because it was the best, cheapest and quicker to get phone after drowning the one I had before. It's not factory refurnished though, some guy in a shed did it. Worked very well until now though but I prefer just to get something that is new instead of paying for the repair of one thing and having another breaking the week after that.
It's going to be either another G2 (found one that seems to be an unused unit but seller hasn't got back to me yet and it would cost pretty much the same or less than a battery/screen replacement) or I'll just get some other recent flagshipy phone that will allow me not to think about phones for at least the next 3 years. Not really sure what that would be but hey..
Still love my essential after 1.5 years but been having a few issues lately:
First there is this blue spot that appeared on my screen last month
Second i'm experiencing serious battery issues : battery drains super quickly and often shut down phone around 50%. A few months ago I had excellent battery life (whole day without needing to charge), even on latest Android 10 (stock non rooted). I tried a few things including a factory reset without any success...
Screen issue I can live with but battery no... so I ordered a battery from aliexpress and prepare mentally for the repair with this video . Any further advice?
My essential was refurbished so it may explain the short battery life but I am wondering if alot of ph1 owners still run fine on original battery after 2 years? Mine was also dropped in water 6 months ago but without immediate issues but could be related to recent problems I am facing now
Anyhow, would really like to rock this phone at least 6 more months!
Mine is original bought from Amazon deal 1 1/2 years ago. The battery is still great. Fully charged at 9:30pm, next morning at 6:00am, the battery is 97%.
Phone never got dropped or water damage. I took good care of it, and hoping I can use it until Black Friday this year.
It sounds like @chanh2018 doesn't charge the phone way past when it's full. The PH-1 is one of the (many) devices that do not stop charging and draw from the charger when full.
If your use of the phone is different, the device gets run down then fully charged repetitively, then the wear on your battery will be higher. These comparisons are not really valid because of people's different habits.
My PH-1 battery is in good shape, even though it spends a silly amount of time on a charger. I use a Magisk adjacent (there is a module, also an app but I install by script) project called Advanced Charging Controller (ACC). When the upper charge level is reached, on the PH-1, it stops charging and discharges to the lower set-point. On a normal day, that range is 70%-80%. If I'm using the screen for a long period, like navigation, the same is 40%-41%.
I've done something similar since my N6 and have had little battery trouble.
That makes sense - I'm always plugging my phone before going to bed and let it charge until the morning so that might explain my battery issue.
I thought it was smart enough to stop charging for a while when 100% was reached... I'll pay attention to that when I get my new battery!
liquor said:
That makes sense - I'm always plugging my phone before going to bed and let it charge until the morning so that might explain my battery issue.
I thought it was smart enough to stop charging for a while when 100% was reached... I'll pay attention to that when I get my new battery!
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Well....I don't charge my phone overnight, but I always let it goes up to 100% and I don't have any issue with it.
It's been 1 1/2 year and still running like first day. Maybe I'm just lucky.
chanh2018 said:
Well....I don't charge my phone overnight, but I always let it goes up to 100% and I don't have any issue with it.
It's been 1 1/2 year and still running like first day. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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There are many factors that influence battery condition. Factors like heat, both ambient and charging related, the speed of charging(e.g. quick vrs trickle), the depth of discharge/charge. An in depth writing on the subject is available at the battery university.
liquor said:
Still love my essential after 1.5 years but been having a few issues lately:
First there is this blue spot that appeared on my screen last month
Second i'm experiencing serious battery issues : battery drains super quickly and often shut down phone around 50%. A few months ago I had excellent battery life (whole day without needing to charge), even on latest Android 10 (stock non rooted). I tried a few things including a factory reset without any success...
Screen issue I can live with but battery no... so I ordered a battery from aliexpress and prepare mentally for the repair with this video . Any further advice?
My essential was refurbished so it may explain the short battery life but I am wondering if alot of ph1 owners still run fine on original battery after 2 years? Mine was also dropped in water 6 months ago but without immediate issues but could be related to recent problems I am facing now
Anyhow, would really like to rock this phone at least 6 more months!
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Worked the battery change for you? Since three days I have also heavy battery drain. It needs around 140mAh per hour screen off. My battery health is only 66% said accubattery. I also tried a factory reset...didnt worked. The Phone is like yours 1,5 years old.
I love it too and dont want to change :/
liquor said:
Still love my essential after 1.5 years but been having a few issues lately:
First there is this blue spot that appeared on my screen last month
Second i'm experiencing serious battery issues : battery drains super quickly and often shut down phone around 50%. A few months ago I had excellent battery life (whole day without needing to charge), even on latest Android 10 (stock non rooted). I tried a few things including a factory reset without any success...
Screen issue I can live with but battery no... so I ordered a battery from aliexpress and prepare mentally for the repair with this video . Any further advice?
My essential was refurbished so it may explain the short battery life but I am wondering if alot of ph1 owners still run fine on original battery after 2 years? Mine was also dropped in water 6 months ago but without immediate issues but could be related to recent problems I am facing now
Anyhow, would really like to rock this phone at least 6 more months!
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Another possibility is that there is some current leakage due to moisture maybe via dendritic growth which could cause current to leak after dendrites have had time to grow.
(As you dropped in water and/or due to reconditioning work leaving residue on PCB dendrites is more likely to occur as rework normally use no clean soldiering products & likely less clean working methods than factory)
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xTHXxx said:
Worked the battery change for you? Since three days I have also heavy battery drain. It needs around 140mAh per hour screen off. My battery health is only 66% said accubattery. I also tried a factory reset...didnt worked. The Phone is like yours 1,5 years old.
I love it too and dont want to change :/
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Could be battery failing (not sure how those battery apps calculate rating) though I'd also be looking at a recent app update being incompatible first for such sudden onset (any apps showing higher than normal battery usage) or maybe issue with your wifi/data
My PH-1 is also 1.5 years old and is now having serious battery issues. About two months ago my phone went from "feeling normal" to losing about 3-4 hours of charge per day. On new years day my phone hit 50% and shut off. The phone was not hot at that time. Since that shut-off event my battery only lasts about a quarter of what it would as new.
It would be nice if Essential offered a service to replace the batteries for a fee. I would really like to see replaceable batteries come back in style.
JD
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Another possibility is that there is some current leakage due to moisture maybe via dendritic growth which could cause current to leak after dendrites have had time to grow.
(As you dropped in water and/or due to reconditioning work leaving residue on PCB dendrites is more likely to occur as rework normally use no clean soldiering products & likely less clean working methods than factory)
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Could be battery failing (not sure how those battery apps calculate rating) though I'd also be looking at a recent app update being incompatible first for such sudden onset (any apps showing higher than normal battery usage) or maybe issue with your wifi/data
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It was the wifi Adapter. I would not habe thought but after disable it I got my old, for one day sufficient battery drain back. I have enough mobile data to live without wifi...not the best Solution but its okay.
I just changed out my battery over the weekend. It was actually much easier than the videos on the web lead you to believe. Now i have tons of battery life and it's back to the way it was when i first bought the phone. Very happy!!
JD
JudasD said:
I just changed out my battery over the weekend. It was actually much easier than the videos on the web lead you to believe. Now i have tons of battery life and it's back to the way it was when i first bought the phone. Very happy!!
JD
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Sweet. Where did you get the battery and which video guide do you recommend? According to AccuBattery my battery's health is 85% but feels like 50!
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eKeith said:
Sweet. Where did you get the battery and which video guide do you recommend? According to AccuBattery my battery's health is 85% but feels like 50!
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For me accubattery said 45% and it really did feel like 45%! LOL
The battery i used was from amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T28KL8B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I did not do any research on the battery. it was the only one i could find that would get here quickly. So far it is working fine, but time will be the true judge.
main videos to use is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCKxAQXdTJ8&t=618s
the main guide to use is:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Essential+Phone+Battery+Replacement/123496
The video is good in that it shows the heat gun to use and how to use it. The only downside to the video is they give the impression that the suction does more than it really does. (this is where the guide below comes in) For me it was a mix of suction cup and very light prying.
The guide is by iFixit and it is very helpful. IMPORTANT: DO NOT THE IFIXIT YOUTUBE VIDEO, IT IS NO GOOD!
The iFixit guide shows you where to make your initial tool insertion (i used a playing card edge) and how deep you actually have to play with around the edges. I also did not use scalpels like they do in the guide. I used only playing cards as it is MUCH safer when going around the edges. The playing cards can cut the adhesive, but will not cut the screen substrate. WARNING: THE PLAYING CARDS CAN STILL LIFT THE SUBSTRATE IF YOU GET TOO AGGRESSIVE, THEY JUST CANNOT CUT IT. BE CAREFUL AS YOU CAN STILL CAUSE DAMAGE.
In summary, the approach is a mix of heatgun and suction cup with playing cards around the edges. Take your time. It took me about 30 mins to get the screen off. After that it is super easy, just be patient.
I'll gladly answer any questions you might have.
Good Luck,
JD
Great! Thanks much for taking the time to share such detailed info.
I think that I will wait a little longer until my battery gets worse but I have bookmarked your references...
I also changed my battery last weekend but used a combination of guitar picks / scalpel / playing cards to decouple the screen after heating the edges with hairdryer.
Result : I damaged my screen so I prime ordered a new one for 80$ CAD. Once connected, I used b7000 glue carefully on the frame edges and put the phone under a big book for 24h.
Phone now feels like new and I hope it for last a while...