I've been wanting to get this device but I am getting turned off because of the battery complaints. Is it really bad or enough to get you through the day?
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aytex said:
I've been wanting to get this device but I am getting turned off because of the battery complaints. Is it really bad or enough to get you through the day?
Thanks
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All depends... For me a full charge will go all day with about 3 hours SOT, but it varies a lot depending on WiFi access, traveling, signal strength, etc. TBH, I carry a charger and cable and tend to top off mid-afternoon of possible.
My only complaint with this device is battery life, but it's still better than my Nexus 4 was no matter how you look at it... But compared to my Moto G3 it's terrible. Is the battery life bad? I don't think so, but I would not call it good either.
Battery sux like on every snapdragon 808/810 device. Those procrssors are the most ****ed up things in mobile history.
U will get average/max 3h sot of normal usage and thats it, like on every other phone with this cpu. To compare, on xperia z2 I was getting 5h30min sot on average with the same usage.
At least battery is charging really fast, but only with original charger. With every regular charger under 1A it will be still discharging while using.
If u have money just buy something with snap820.
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gemtin92 said:
Battery sux like on every snapdragon 808/810 device. Those procrssors are the most ****ed up things in mobile history.
U will get average/max 3h sot of normal usage and thats it, like on every other phone with this cpu. To compare, on xperia z2 I was getting 5h30min sot on average with the same usage.
At least battery is charging really fast, but only with original charger. With every regular charger under 1A it will be still discharging while using.
If u have money just buy something with snap820.
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It's no secret the battery life is not good with this device, but isn't because of the CPU. ~85% of the battery is used by the display in the Style/Pure because the 5.7" LED display is horrible on battery, its beautiful to look at but the battery consumption is ridiculous. The CPU is actually a minor draw of power in the device, if this phone was identical except with an energy efficient AMOLED display, getting 5-6 hours of SOT would be simple. The idle draw on this device is less than 3% per hour and if doze kicks in its under 1% per hour.
I have lg g flex 2 with 1080p oled display runing on snap810 and the story about battery is the same. Ofcourse oled display in moto x would help a little, but its not a display, its a cpu draining so much battery.
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No complaints here. I'm stock, rooted, and xposed using greenify.
Im not complaining too, I just get used to it, battery sux on every 2015 flagship comapre to 2014 and 2016 flagships.
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I've been using the phone for the last 6 months and I'm going to change it ONLY because of the poor battery life. A 5,7" QHD LED display + SD 808 + Moto Display and a relatively small 3000 mah battery isn't a good pack if the goal is to give a decent battery life.
Ironically Lenovo somehow managed to make a SD 820 based device (Moto z) that also has a bad battery life using a small battery. If was enough do do a new X Style with amoled, SD 820 and a 3500 mah battery, but apparently it is too difficult for them.
I had my first Pure for almost a year before I had to do an RMA due to some hardware issues. When I got the replacement a couple months ago, it really highlighted how much the battery in the original had deteriorated over 10-11 months.
Granted, some of the decline was probably due to software reasons, cache building up, more apps installed, etc. But man, the move towards unibody designs and sealed batteries by Android OEMs a few years ago is one of the worst things to happen in the mobile industry. Even if you only keep your device for a year, battery life drops precipitously over that time -- nevermind, god forbid, two or three years.
I'm fairly content with the battery life on my new MXPE for now. It's not stellar for the size of the phone, but in absolute terms, it's decent enough.
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I had my first Pure for almost a year before I had to do an RMA due to some hardware issues. When I got the replacement a couple months ago, it really highlighted how much the battery in the original had deteriorated over 10-11 months.
Granted, some of the decline was probably due to software reasons, cache building up, more apps installed, etc. But man, the move towards unibody designs and sealed batteries by Android OEMs a few years ago is one of the worst things to happen in the mobile industry. Even if you only keep your device for a year, battery life drops precipitously over that time -- nevermind, god forbid, two or three years.
I'm fairly content with the battery life on my new MXPE for now. It's not stellar for the size of the phone, but in absolute terms, it's decent enough.
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Honestly, the battery probably deteriorates the most due to Quick Charge 2.0, it is much tougher on batteries than Quick Charge 3.0, and I probably charge mine 80% of the time with a standard charger and the rest with a quick charger... I highly recommend using a standard charger whenever possible. This is not device specific, a lot of QC2.0 devices suffer from quick battery failure, not just quick charging.
I've never heard so much bs, I get on average 5h sot which for a 3000mah battery is below average, it's the high res screen that's draining, like someone said before if it was an amoled screen I'd be looking at 6-7h sot but turbo charging helps a lot oh and doesn't deteriorate the battery at all, lmfao keep using your standard charger but also wrap tin foil round your head.
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Honestly, the battery probably deteriorates the most due to Quick Charge 2.0, it is much tougher on batteries than Quick Charge 3.0, and I probably charge mine 80% of the time with a standard charger and the rest with a quick charger... I highly recommend using a standard charger whenever possible. This is not device specific, a lot of QC2.0 devices suffer from quick battery failure, not just quick charging.
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I agree 100% with this! I wish I had started using the regular charger sooner. Now I have a Z Force also and while it doesn't have the form factor and front speakers of the MXPE, it's superior otherwise.
I get around two days with 3,5-4h sot or one day with ~4,5h of sot. Imo it's not that bad for such a big phone.
Thanks for all the responses everyone. I'm getting one for 200 bucks as a temp phone for a while
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The Samsung Galaxy S2 has horrible battery life. The 1650mah battery will not suffice to anyone but light users.
In my eyes, there are many unacceptable solutions:
- Disabling battery hungry features (lowering screen brightness, undervolting CPU, uninstalling certains apps, disabling real-time sync, etc.) - I find this compromise unacceptable, I bought this device to use it with all its glory.
- Using a larger extended battery - I find this solution unacceptable, since in order for a poweruser to get through the day, at least a 3000mah battery is required. Such a battery, although exist for the S2, adds significant weight and bulk. The device becomes ugly and uncomfortable to carry around.
- Upgrading to a device with much better battery life - currently there are two, the Motorola Maxx, which I find ugly, and the Samsung Note 2, which is realy big to handle...
So, after much thought and experimentation, I finally want to report my success story (yes it's an old solution, but somehow most don't understand its enourmous power): I'm using a secondary battery. I bought another original 1650mah battery (with a seperate charger). The 1650mah battery is very light and small, so it easily fits inside my very small wallet. When I need to switch (middle day), I clocked the switch at just under 60 seconds (from pressing the power off button, to being able to fully use the device again with a fresh battery including the rubber case installed).
This is such a simple solution, it has practically zero drawbacks (If you don't mind losing 60 seconds of your life everyday...), it gives you the equivalent of a 3300mah battery (which is much more than any extended battery advertized as being 3300mah, even Mugen's), yet so few people use it...
wowwww you wrote all this just to tell us you have a secondary battery.
I know, it seems like an overkill but really, I spent 1.5 years trying to solve the S2 battery problem without huge compromises (and everything else apart from a secondary battery is a huge compromise), and I can only regret I didn't read a post like mine...
u wasted ur 1,5 years for just a secondary batt??? do u know how funny u're...
how about having a micro USB powerbank??
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S 2's battery actually doesn't suck. It is better than most of android phones.
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I know, it seems like an overkill but really, I spent 1.5 years trying to solve the S2 battery problem without huge compromises (and everything else apart from a secondary battery is a huge compromise), and I can only regret I didn't read a post like mine...
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samsungs 2000mah extended battery iis realy good its just pricey
Don't see how this 'sollution' is from a different category than the other ones you've stated.. It all depends on the user, and what he/she knows about saving battery without UC and stuff.
Maybe you would last longer with one battery if your stories would be shorter
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Don't see how this 'sollution' is from a different category than the other ones you've stated.. It all depends on the user, and what he/she knows about saving battery without UC and stuff.
Maybe you would last longer with one battery if your stories would be shorter
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I thought I made it clear why the extra battery is a solution of a different category
- It allows you to have all the phone's features ON.
- It allows you to enjoy its comfortable, light and slick original design.
- It allows you to enjoy the equivalent of a *true* 3300mah battery.
- Minimal fuss (60 sec battery switch).
Nothing can come close to such a solution (for a power user who needs a long lasting phone). Practically no drawbacks, only benefits (in comparison to any other solution, which always present a severe compromise).
I think it's rather a good advice, than a "solution". And indeed, this is a feature you will miss whent it's gone: The replaceable battery. I've bought the 2000 mAh battery by Samsung. So I have the greater battery plus a secondary one, if needed.
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I think it's rather a good advice, than a "solution". And indeed, this is a feature you will miss whent it's gone: The replaceable battery. I boght the 2000 mAh battery by Samsung. So I have the greater battery plus a secondary one, if needed.
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I agree, the word "advice" is more appropriate
Btw, are the 1650mah and 2000mah batteries interchangeable ? I thought they use different battery cover...
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The Samsung Galaxy S2 has horrible battery life. The 1650mah battery will not suffice to anyone but light users.
In my eyes, there are many unacceptable solutions:
- Disabling battery hungry features (lowering screen brightness, undervolting CPU, uninstalling certains apps, disabling real-time sync, etc.) - I find this compromise unacceptable, I bought this device to use it with all its glory.
- Using a larger extended battery - I find this solution unacceptable, since in order for a poweruser to get through the day, at least a 3000mah battery is required. Such a battery, although exist for the S2, adds significant weight and bulk. The device becomes ugly and uncomfortable to carry around.
- Upgrading to a device with much better battery life - currently there are two, the Motorola Maxx, which I find ugly, and the Samsung Note 2, which is realy big to handle...
So, after much thought and experimentation, I finally want to report my success story (yes it's an old solution, but somehow most don't understand its enourmous power): I'm using a secondary battery. I bought another original 1650mah battery (with a seperate charger). The 1650mah battery is very light and small, so it easily fits inside my very small wallet. When I need to switch (middle day), I clocked the switch at just under 60 seconds (from pressing the power off button, to being able to fully use the device again with a fresh battery including the rubber case installed).
This is such a simple solution, it has practically zero drawbacks (If you don't mind losing 60 seconds of your life everyday...), it gives you the equivalent of a 3300mah battery (which is much more than any extended battery advertized as being 3300mah, even Mugen's), yet so few people use it...
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you still have to carry the cover everywhere too.
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you really cant notice the samsung extended battery is any bigger, especially if you have a case on your phone then it is impossible to tell. Much better than carrying and charging two batteries imo!
I dont have the extended battery and when using my phone hard over the day i can get 5 hours screen time on standard size anker battery. Have you tried using BBS to workout why your battery life is soo poor?
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you still have to carry the cover everywhere too.
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What do you mean "carry the cover everywhere" ? which cover ? I only carry the additional 1650mah battery in my wallet...
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you really cant notice the samsung extended battery is any bigger, especially if you have a case on your phone then it is impossible to tell. Much better than carrying and charging two batteries imo!
I dont have the extended battery and when using my phone hard over the day i can get 5 hours screen time on standard size anker battery. Have you tried using BBS to workout why your battery life is soo poor?
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But you can't compare two 1650mah batteries to one 2000mah battery... the 3300mah solution gives you 65% more juice...
Regarding carrying an additional 1650mah battery, it's so small and light (30 grams) that after putting it in my wallet I forget about it completely. Charging two batteries is no fuss at all, if you have a seperate battery charger.
You are getting 5 hours screen time on 1650mah battery ? for me this is impossible, while every feature is ON (real time sync, auto brightness, facebook app, normal volt, constant 3G connection) I get this amount from two batteries (but the phone operates much more than 5 hours, more like 20). I do have bad reception at my work, which might drain the battery more.
2000+1650 battery is better than your solution, lol
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2000+1650 battery is better than your solution, lol
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And 2000 + 2000 is even better
But really, 3300mah is more than anyone would require in 1 day. It's really an overkill in itself (it's more than the Note 2 battery, and for a much smaller screen...).
you forgot the 1650 battery that came with the phone & money spent in vain?!
How do you charge both of the batteries? I mean you have one s2, or you use external charger to charge extra battery?
And My S2 lasts a day with 3hour of music, 4hour of screentime! No undervolting or compromise, Wifi n Data mostly on, I even use Google Now! Stweaks settings for best performance!
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How do you charge both of the batteries? I mean you have one s2, or you use external charger to charge extra battery?
And My S2 lasts a day with 3hour of music, 4hour of screentime! No undervolting or compromise, Wifi n Data mostly on, I even use Google Now! Stweaks settings for best performance!
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Yes, I use external charger to charge the extra battery ($10 on ebay), and another $25 for the extra original 1650mah battery.
I think the battery life has a lot to do with the signal quality, and the signal sucks at my workplace (also, if you are using WIFI instead of 3G you'll again save a lot in battery, but I'm using 3G...).
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Yes, I use external charger to charge the extra battery ($10 on ebay), and another $25 for the extra original 1650mah battery.
I think the battery life has a lot to do with the signal quality, and the signal sucks at my workplace (also, if you are using WIFI instead of 3G you'll again save a lot in battery, but I'm using 3G...).
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I use both, but mostly Wifi.
Edit: And I don't like keeping it on minimum brightness, it kinda changes colors in S Amoled. White seems yellowish, grey becomes something else, so I keep it around 35-40%
So long story short after getting two defective Oneplus 2's in a row from Amazon I decided to step away from Oneplus to a more stable and reliable manufacturer.
I've come from a Oneplus 1 before this and I just spent the last three days going over every review of the MXPE. The only issue I have is if I'm making the right decision considering that battery life is pretty average? I'm not going to be using it for gaming, and I wont be using 3G instead of LTE.
Won't say it's bad. The turbo charged enables amazing fast charging times and Android M has surely improved some percentage of the battery. I carry a quick charge 2 enabled car charger too so i don't feel it's bad. i think you will get used to the battery offering of the MXPE.
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I had the same concerns as you have right now. The Screen of my OnePlus One got a crack, so I had to decide for myself "Do you want another one, or do you want to give an other manufacturer a try". I decided to buy the Moto X Style, which is the Pure in europe and was blown away by the display quality, the sound and the overall performance. And of course, it's as close to stock Android as it can get. The battery was a real letdown after a few hours of "testing" and recharge-cycles. Coming from a OPO, with all the possibilites to tweak and getting very high SOT, I was really really disappointed. But now, I'm getting really used to it and tweaked some settings a bit, to get more out of that battery. Now I'm on 4-5 hours of SOT and, thankfully, can go even further with the Turbo Charger. Of course, the battery could've been a bit larger (as always), but that's not a big issue in my opinion. Give it a chance, play around a little and you will see, that the overall experience prevails. With Marshmallow on the doorstep, you should get even more out of the battery, thanks to the Doze-Feature. There's a thread floating around, where a couple of users are reporting about an increasing battery life.
Thanks a lot for taking the trouble to reply guys. @doree Glad to see someone else coming from the OPO, I was used to getting 6-8 SOT with all the underclocking/volting that we used to do with AK kernel. Guess i'll do a bit more research from users using marshmallow on the X and then make a decision.
I'd say so far my battery life experience has been slightly worse than what I had with my Note 4, which is still pretty good overall. Especially since the update to MM it seems to drain less in standby. Currently have 2 hrs SOT with 38% battery left (and it last came off the charger Saturday morning). Granted, when I'm at home I always have it on Wifi which uses less battery than having it on GSM/LTE. On weekdays when I'm at work (where I don't have wifi) it drains a bit faster. And I also have a long commute which also isn't beneficial to battery life as it's constantly hopping towers during the commute.
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So long story short after getting two defective Oneplus 2's in a row from Amazon I decided to step away from Oneplus to a more stable and reliable manufacturer.
I've come from a Oneplus 1 before this and I just spent the last three days going over every review of the MXPE. The only issue I have is if I'm making the right decision considering that battery life is pretty average? I'm not going to be using it for gaming, and I wont be using 3G instead of LTE.
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I've read a lot different stuff concerning battery on the MXPE - with a handful of users reporting it's not great. But I must say, from my experience, battery life has been amazing. I get between 4 and 6 hours of SOT per charge. And a full charge can easily get me through 48 hours. I've never had battery life this great on a phone before. Right now I'm running stock LP, no tweaks, no nothing. I don't use WiFi, but location is set to high accuracy, and I'm always on LTE. I do have more than adequate cell signal strength which helps, and I run minimal apps. But overall I've been super impressed with battery life. :knock on wood:
Battery life is decent as long as your not playing games with full gpu usage. I get three straight hours of battery playing games. For the days I don't play games, battery life is good as oneplus one. But my old OnePlus takes the cake playing games and gpu usage with heat.. I'm on stock MM rom on mxpe and cm12 with custom kernel on 1+. Out of the box, I like mxpe hands down. Probably why I'm still stock on this phone. But once we get Custom marshmallow roms rolling, my flashiolic will kick in!
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i do not play games but i do chat a lot, movies etc, i get around 5 hours on screen time.
the phone usually lasts the whole day but you have to watch your apps some apps just drain your battery.
keep in mind that you can get 40% of charge in 15 min, you gotta love this feature over the one plus
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S5, and I'm seriously thinking about upgrading to the S7 Edge...however the fact that I can't change my battery is one of the problems I'm afraid of. I'm a hardcore gamer, and after 2 years, my battery for the S5 was dying quickly, so I had to change it. I started using the phone almost all day to play Marvel Future Fight towards the past 6 months and that is what really messed up my battery I think. So I'm wondering if I upgrade...if the phone will last 2 or so years? Cause I ain't got the money to be upgrading every 6 months or every year lol.
What are your thoughts?
Even tho it doesn't has a removable battery like your s5, you can still have the battery replaced by Samsung. Downside is that you can't carry an extra battery with you in case you run out of battery during the day.
So I came from the LG V10 with free extra battery promo. I went through 2-3 full charges a day. I've been on this battery since 8am today. It's 5:49pm and I'm at 54%!
Oops sorry... Just realized you're more worried about the battery's ability to hold charge down the road.
Haven't owned a phone more than 6 months so I'm not sure lol. You could always get one of the charging cases later on when prices drop.
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Even tho it doesn't has a removable battery like your s5, you can still have the battery replaced by Samsung. Downside is that you can't carry an extra battery with you in case you run out of battery during the day.
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Can you really? Don't they charge extra?
cyi1 said:
So I came from the LG V10 with free extra battery promo. I went through 2-3 full charges a day. I've been on this battery since 8am today. It's 5:49pm and I'm at 54%!
Oops sorry... Just realized you're more worried about the battery's ability to hold charge down the road.
Haven't owned a phone more than 6 months so I'm not sure lol. You could always get one of the charging cases later on when prices drop.
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Lol yeah the battery lasting long sounds amazing, but after 6 months of gaming every day, I'm sure it will take a toll The charging cases sound like a pretty good idea though.
It does costs more than getting an extra battery for your s5, but you won't have to pay for a new phone every 1-2 years. Nowadays most phones have non-removable batteries, except for the Lg G5, but it has a 2800 mAh battery when the s7 edge has a 3600 mAh.
it's not an issue in the sense that no one keeps a phone 4 years nowadays. For instance, using a QC 2.0 adaptor shortens the battery life, however over 1 or 2 years, it is barely noticeable. It is noticeable only if you keep your phone for years and years. But most people change every year.
These batteries are good, they're not super cheap, so it will be ok. Samsung replaces the battery only if it's really defective, not if you lost like 5-10% of the battery charge.
I have two bloated S5 batteries first lasted 18 months and second lasted 6 months which was last week. I was a very heavy user and my phones over heat. My old HTC EVO had to be in the freezer a lot and had 5-6 batteries. But I believe a with normal use the battery should last 24 months. I have been thinking of putting phone on discharge timer to plug in and unplug.
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I have two bloated S5 batteries first lasted 18 months and second lasted 6 months which was last week. I was a very heavy user and my phones over heat. My old HTC EVO had to be in the freezer a lot and had 5-6 batteries. But I believe a with normal use the battery should last 24 months. I have been thinking of putting phone on discharge timer to plug in and unplug.
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I've never had an issue with my S6 Edge that I'm trading in for the S7 Edge.
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It does costs more than getting an extra battery for your s5, but you won't have to pay for a new phone every 1-2 years. Nowadays most phones have non-removable batteries, except for the Lg G5, but it has a 2800 mAh battery when the s7 edge has a 3600 mAh.
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True that, but would they just replace your battery or the whole phone itself? Like would I have to back up my data?
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it's not an issue in the sense that no one keeps a phone 4 years nowadays. For instance, using a QC 2.0 adaptor shortens the battery life, however over 1 or 2 years, it is barely noticeable. It is noticeable only if you keep your phone for years and years. But most people change every year.
These batteries are good, they're not super cheap, so it will be ok. Samsung replaces the battery only if it's really defective, not if you lost like 5-10% of the battery charge.
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That's very true, and I had no idea that QC 2.0 shortens battery life, does QC 3.0 do that? I know we'll be getting that with the wireless charging. Regarding replacing the battery, what do you mean by "really defective"? What do they consider defective? I find that loosing 5-10% battery charge in less than an hour really defective lol.
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I have two bloated S5 batteries first lasted 18 months and second lasted 6 months which was last week. I was a very heavy user and my phones over heat. My old HTC EVO had to be in the freezer a lot and had 5-6 batteries. But I believe a with normal use the battery should last 24 months. I have been thinking of putting phone on discharge timer to plug in and unplug.
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Damn, well I'm barley on my second battery after almost 2 years lol. My S5 overheats a lot now and sometimes I don't use it much. It lags a lot and sometimes messages don't send..so I really need a new phone. :/ How do you put the phone on a "discharge timer"? I'm thinking of not leaving my phone overnight charging cause that's how the battery messes up more I heard. I probably also won't play games while charging my phone either cause that'll kill the battery's longevity more than usual.
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True that, but would they just replace your battery or the whole phone itself? Like would I have to back up my data?
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They will replace just the battery, for the s7/s7 edge they use heat to open the back cover and they replace the battery. On the s6 they also had to remove the screen in order to get access to the battery (you can watch videos of how they do it).
From a quick search online, it costs $45 + shipping to replace the battery on the s6 in the US, I could be wrong as I have no personal experience.
I know we're talking about different device's but my z ultra (heavily used) and Z3CT both still rock battery like the day I bought them. Hence why I'm not worried to much. Don't let it put you off a device also you could always change battery after a while just a little bit harder to do lol.
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My previous phone was the S5 and I wasn't to happy about going to a phone that doesn't have a removable battery seeing as all my phones had a removable battery. That is one reason why I went with the S7 Edge so I wouldn't have to worry about the battery as much.
With my S5 and before that my S3 I would just keep the phone plugged up if I was playing a game that used a lot of battery.
Get the S7 you'll like it.
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They will replace just the battery, for the s7/s7 edge they use heat to open the back cover and they replace the battery. On the s6 they also had to remove the screen in order to get access to the battery (you can watch videos of how they do it).
From a quick search online, it costs $45 + shipping to replace the battery on the s6 in the US, I could be wrong as I have no personal experience.
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Ah that's cool That's actually not that bad Thank you for your very informative post and for bothering to look up the information for me. I appreciate it
marcgear said:
I know we're talking about different device's but my z ultra (heavily used) and Z3CT both still rock battery like the day I bought them. Hence why I'm not worried to much. Don't let it put you off a device also you could always change battery after a while just a little bit harder to do lol.
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Nice, I just hope the S7 is the same way lol. Sure, we can always change the battery after awhile and it'll be harder to do, but it'll be more expensive than just buying a battery outright like someone said earlier in this post But...it'll be worth it lol.
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My previous phone was the S5 and I wasn't to happy about going to a phone that doesn't have a removable battery seeing as all my phones had a removable battery. That is one reason why I went with the S7 Edge so I wouldn't have to worry about the battery as much.
With my S5 and before that my S3 I would just keep the phone plugged up if I was playing a game that used a lot of battery.
Get the S7 you'll like it.
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Yeah, that's exactly how I feel lol. I've been doing that with the S5 and before that the S3 and I really do feel like it kills the battery's life more while leaving it plugged in while playing a game. :/ But I already pre-ordered the phone today from T-Mobile so I should have it in 3 days or less
Leelouster said:
True that, but would they just replace your battery or the whole phone itself? Like would I have to back up my data?
That's very true, and I had no idea that QC 2.0 shortens battery life, does QC 3.0 do that? I know we'll be getting that with the wireless charging. Regarding replacing the battery, what do you mean by "really defective"? What do they consider defective? I find that loosing 5-10% battery charge in less than an hour really defective lol.
Damn, well I'm barley on my second battery after almost 2 years lol. My S5 overheats a lot now and sometimes I don't use it much. It lags a lot and sometimes messages don't send..so I really need a new phone. :/ How do you put the phone on a "discharge timer"? I'm thinking of not leaving my phone overnight charging cause that's how the battery messes up more I heard. I probably also won't play games while charging my phone either cause that'll kill the battery's longevity more than usual.
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I recently bought the Moto X Pure Edition. Overall I am very pleased with it however there is one thing that constantly bugs me. The battery life is absolutely terrible. I'd seen no mention of this before I bought the device but having bought it, I'm realizing how terrible it is. I only get around 2-2.5 hours of screen on time. This is even worse than the moto g 2014 I owned before which i could easily get 3 hours with. Are other people having similar experiences and are there any potential solutions?
Also, can you guys suggest some custom ROMs for me with great battery life and very stable? Thanks!
Try TruPureXMM, it has the best battery life among other roms, AFAIK. Well, that's because it is based on stock. Try it out for yourself.
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Am on stock and battery life is terrible. Can hardly end with 3h max with a full charge. And am one of those that stops most of the moto actions, low brightness, no wi-fi all time etc but still its worst battery life I've seen on a mobile. I think it has to do with the big screen it has!
xxhunterxx11 said:
Try TruPureXMM, it has the best battery life among other roms, AFAIK. Well, that's because it is based on stock. Try it out for yourself.
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What changes does it have from stock?
BruceWayne54 said:
What changes does it have from stock?
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It is debloated (forgot the others lol). Check the thread to see all the information you need.
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check out frankenkernel. I get 5Hrs of SoT
I have a brand-new XT 1572 (on stock) and would not call its battery life terrible. I'm getting 5 hours continuous SoT on WiFi (not sure people are using the term "SoT" consistently - if the phone is on for 24 hours, I'd expect to get less than 5 hours SoT; same when I'm on a 4G connection, particularly a bad one). Not great, but acceptable (and not unexpected in light of XT 157x reviews).
I have a shortcut to Settings - battery on my home screen which I check frequently (while I'm in the process of getting familiar with the phone), I have OS Monitor on my home screen, and I occasionally check "running services" under "Developer Options". I use Nova Launcher which makes it very easy to force-stop an app just by long-tapping it, hitting "App info" and then stopping it.
All of this has caused me to uninstall a few power-hogging apps which I probably did not need in the first place; I also find I need to occasionally force-stop apps such as Neutron.
In an average day, from 6am-10pm of mixed WiFi/LTE usage I get about 3 hours total screen on time, and the majority of the time I have good-excellect signal strength... If I have average to poor signal strength, 2-2.5 hours SOT is normal. On WiFi with continuous usage I get 4+ hours. This is normal.
Sorry, but the battery life of this phone, especially if used in bright light or outdoors, is just not good. The display is gorgeous, but it is an unbelievable battery hog.
I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
acejavelin said:
In an average day, from 6am-10pm of mixed WiFi/LTE usage I get about 3 hours total screen on time, and the majority of the time I have good-excellect signal strength... If I have average to poor signal strength, 2-2.5 hours SOT is normal. On WiFi with continuous usage I get 4+ hours. This is normal.
Sorry, but the battery life of this phone, especially if used in bright light or outdoors, is just not good. The display is gorgeous, but it is an unbelievable battery hog.
I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
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I don't disagree with you - I call it "acceptable", you call it "just not good". I'd stop (far) short of calling it "terrible, terrible" though - and let's face it, this is why the device sells at the price point it does - which, to me, right now, is (a) close to the limit of what I'm prepared to pay for a smartphone and (b) great value for money. I'd rather be close to a charger or battery pack (in fact, I ordered a slim battery pack when I ordered the phone) with this phone at all times than owning a different phone (in this price range) with better battery life but other challenges/compromises I need to take. This devices's predecessor (for me) was the LG G3 - same thing, except that this device actually works.
acejavelin said:
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I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
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I completely agree with the above. Thats main reason I havent used a custom Rom yet and still waiting for Stock 7 realease (hopefully we see it within the next 2 months) before trying a custom rom yet.
But i wanted to ask a question about the screen taking all that ℅ in the battery drain:
I remember i read somewhere in another thread an option that changes the screen resolution to FHD 1080 instead of QHD. You think that really makes the screen battery drain lighter or it doesnt matter !?
phony_user said:
I don't disagree with you - I call it "acceptable", you call it "just not good". I'd stop (far) short of calling it "terrible, terrible" though - and let's face it, this is why the device sells at the price point it does - which, to me, right now, is (a) close to the limit of what I'm prepared to pay for a smartphone and (b) great value for money. I'd rather be close to a charger or battery pack (in fact, I ordered a slim battery pack when I ordered the phone) with this phone at all times than owning a different phone (in this price range) with better battery life but other challenges/compromises I need to take. This devices's predecessor (for me) was the LG G3 - same thing, except that this device actually works.
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My prior phones were an LG G2 and an LG G4 and I was thinking that my 6 month old 2015 MXPE had good battery life. I'm not sure I have ever had a phone that lasted all day. I need to stop buying sub par phones I guess. My Pixel XL (once it gets here) will hopefully fix that.
This is from stock 6.0 - May 2016 Patches - using it on Verizon network
From GSam Battery Monitor, since August 15, 2016:
Averages Per Complete Charge -
Battery Life: 1d 5.3h (8h 29m Active)
Screen On: 3h 56m (5h 11m Max)
I pretty much just charge my phone for 45 - 50 minutes a day at work and do not leave it on the charger any longer than it has to be.
andromobilogy said:
I completely agree with the above. Thats main reason I havent used a custom Rom yet and still waiting for Stock 7 realease (hopefully we see it within the next 2 months) before trying a custom rom yet.
But i wanted to ask a question about the screen taking all that ℅ in the battery drain:
I remember i read somewhere in another thread an option that changes the screen resolution to FHD 1080 instead of QHD. You think that really makes the screen battery drain lighter or it doesnt matter !?
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If you read thread I believe that only worked on Lollipop... People who did it on Marshmallow claimed it made no difference.
acejavelin said:
If you read thread I believe that only worked on Lollipop... People who did it on Marshmallow claimed it made no difference.
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Yea, I was trying that method on Marshmallow. No positive changes on battery life, but got negative impact on Moto Display, it was to ugly for me to use.
phony_user said:
I don't disagree with you - I call it "acceptable", you call it "just not good". I'd stop (far) short of calling it "terrible, terrible" though - and let's face it, this is why the device sells at the price point it does - which, to me, right now, is (a) close to the limit of what I'm prepared to pay for a smartphone and (b) great value for money. I'd rather be close to a charger or battery pack (in fact, I ordered a slim battery pack when I ordered the phone) with this phone at all times than owning a different phone (in this price range) with better battery life but other challenges/compromises I need to take. This devices's predecessor (for me) was the LG G3 - same thing, except that this device actually works.
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Eh, to each there own... My previous phone was a Moto G 2015, it easily got 5 hours SOT in a day with battery to spare, so to me the battery life on the X is poor, but not terrible... I also carry mini power stick for charging on the go, and a QC adapter.
acejavelin said:
In an average day, from 6am-10pm of mixed WiFi/LTE usage I get about 3 hours total screen on time, and the majority of the time I have good-excellect signal strength... If I have average to poor signal strength, 2-2.5 hours SOT is normal. On WiFi with continuous usage I get 4+ hours. This is normal.
Sorry, but the battery life of this phone, especially if used in bright light or outdoors, is just not good. The display is gorgeous, but it is an unbelievable battery hog.
I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
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How about frankenclark with ghostpepper?
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xxhunterxx11 said:
How about frankenclark with ghostpepper?
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What about it? Kernels, roms, etc, can't do anything about how much power the display uses, it's like trying to make a 100w light bulb use 40 watts... they can only effect other things like SOC, syncing, etc.
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What about it? Kernels, roms, etc, can't do anything about how much power the display uses, it's like trying to make a 100w light bulb use 40 watts... they can only effect other things like SOC, syncing, etc.
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I agree here. A 5.7" screen will require more power just to light up. As far as changing resolution, you are still powering a 5.7" display. You might notice some slight difference in battery (and maybe fps) when playing games, but it is really related to going a little easier on the chips.
I'm still on true pure, not even the most recent build, and I could always get a day and a half of battery use, or at least a full day with moderate use.
Hey folks, just wanted to chime in on this. I had the phone since it's release and got around 5 to 6 hours of SoT with WiFi, GPS enabled (but not while using maps lol) and brightness set to about 50%. Battery life has gotten worse with each update and now I am waiting for Android 7 and I will reset my phone after it's installed.
Btw I disable any build in app that I don't use and uninstall apps that use to much battery in the background.
Am on Telsa 03/02 Build. And the battery life is as good as Stock. 3hrs SOT on LTE with Data ON the whole time and 4hrs SOT on WiFi. All the while keeping GPS ON High Accuracy and Ambient display.
No Greenify or any other battery booster.
The performance is better than Stock and all the features working near perfectly. It's a good choice, you get to use Nougat without really compromising the battery much.
Here is the post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...ms-validus-t3561477/post71196401#post71196401
Also I have recently changed the resolution to 1080p. It doesn't increase battery life much but definitely boosts the performance.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...ing-screen-t3190234/post71194289#post71194289
All I can say is, despite the battery life being poor, you have TurboPower charger which definitely saves the day. The phone charges from 10% to 100% within half n hour.
Bought a used LG-AS993 and the AccuBattery app says that it's battery health is at 85%. So instead of a 3,300 mAh battery I'm working with 2,808 mAh. I'm wondering if there's a more accurate way to test it or if I should return it and get a replacement.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
DJ
I dont think AccuBattery is absolutely exact. See it more like a hint of the actual state.
My G6 battery state was 108% after the first charge, and quickly dropped to 96% after 10 charges. Even if the phone was brand new.
My LG G4 was quickly reported as 82%, even if i have an LG guaranteed original battery manufactured 4 months ago.
So no, i wouldnt change it yet.
Swede3519 said:
I dont think AccuBattery is absolutely exact. See it more like a hint of the actual state.
My G6 battery state was 108% after the first charge, and quickly dropped to 96% after 10 charges. Even if the phone was brand new.
My LG G4 was quickly reported as 82%, even if i have an LG guaranteed original battery manufactured 4 months ago.
So no, i wouldnt change it yet.
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I think you are right because after a year of relatively heavy use my battery is still as brand new which can't be right.
Also just keep in mind that an OEM replacement battery is approximately $10 on Ebay right now. So you can worst-case just swap to a brand-spanking new battery, assuming you are OK following directions for pulling off the back plate using a heater (see youtube videos for battery change LG G6).
I have noticed that the less you charge, the less accurate the battery health function seems to get.
If i charge only 20% a couple of times, then the health percentage will drop. And if i charge it from 25% to full the health percentage will rise again.
If the battery charge recommendations are followed ( 40% - 80% charging every time), then the health numbers seems to become more inaccurate.
Quite understandable since it is easier for the app to calculate the health during longer charge sessions.
But at the same time counterproductive since the best way to get a long lasting battery is to charge 40 - 80%.....
So.... forget about the health tab, just charge it to maximum 80% and the battery will last longer than the phone....
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So.... forget about the health tab, just charge it
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I think that's good advice, to forget about the battery health, for two reasons: 1) Why would you even trust the "health" judgment provided by the app, which is demonstrably unhelpful and imprecise, and 2) Why invite more worry and stress over the battery which decreases your enjoyment of the phone?
Maybe we could also discuss the general schools of thought about the pros and cons of worrying about battery health.
But overall I feel like you should weigh and compare the benefits of worrying vs the benefits of not worrying. I mean, the way I think about it, is that if you apply the absolute worst treatment and abuse to your battery, you are *STILL* going to come out in a better situation than if you try to worry about the battery health.
For example, you incur a definite cost by adding extra hassle to your life of trying to just charge to 80%. So you get all the hassle, but what do you gain for all that hassle? Have you quantified what gains you get, after 6 months, after 1 year, after 2 years?
The tiny gains you enjoy after 2 years are *NOT* worth 2 years of extra hassle.
Couldn't have stated it better.
BTW I have used AccuBattery on a new tablet that I have, and it also gives variable results that aren't very helpful.
So I agree. Just enjoy your device and don't bother with these apps, unless there is some real problem to diagnose
KingFatty said:
I think that's good advice, to forget about the battery health, for two reasons: 1) Why would you even trust the "health" judgment provided by the app, which is demonstrably unhelpful and imprecise, and 2) Why invite more worry and stress over the battery which decreases your enjoyment of the phone?
Maybe we could also discuss the general schools of thought about the pros and cons of worrying about battery health.
But overall I feel like you should weigh and compare the benefits of worrying vs the benefits of not worrying. I mean, the way I think about it, is that if you apply the absolute worst treatment and abuse to your battery, you are *STILL* going to come out in a better situation than if you try to worry about the battery health.
For example, you incur a definite cost by adding extra hassle to your life of trying to just charge to 80%. So you get all the hassle, but what do you gain for all that hassle? Have you quantified what gains you get, after 6 months, after 1 year, after 2 years?
The tiny gains you enjoy after 2 years are *NOT* worth 2 years of extra hassle.
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