I was reading about drammer and how they have tested multiple phones on unrooting them? could someone possibly get this to work on the S7? i know it wont lead to roms, and i have no clue if this is really helpful but i just wanted to ask. and to also inform them about the this new threat.
I tried posting the web link but im "new" (what i get for not posting as much) you can just google Drammer and it should come out it is also named Rowhammer bitflips
Enlighten us. What the heck is the drammer process? You introduced the subject so let us know exactly what it is and how it works. I don't want to search.
gaz189 said:
I was reading about drammer and how they have tested multiple phones on unrooting them? could someone possibly get this to work on the S7? i know it wont lead to roms, and i have no clue if this is really helpful but i just wanted to ask. and to also inform them about the this new threat.
I tried posting the web link but im "new" (what i get for not posting as much) you can just google Drammer and it should come out it is also named Rowhammer bitflips
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Drammer roots phones, it doesn't unroot phones from what i've read....
I downloaded the apk to test if you are vulnerable and i didn't see any flips, so we may not be vulnerable. It's still too early to tell at this point...
Here is the link for the test app....
https://www.vusec.net/projects/drammer/
Also need to look in to the DirtyCow root process....
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/10/25/dirtycow-linux-hole-works-on-android-too-root-at-will/
dkb218 said:
Enlighten us. What the heck is the drammer process? You introduced the subject so let us know exactly what it is and how it works. I don't want to search.
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Drammer roots phones, it doesn't unroot phones from what i've read....
I downloaded the apk to test if you are vulnerable and i didn't see any flips, so we may not be vulnerable. It's still too early to tell at this point...
Here is the link for the test app....
https://www.vusec.net/projects/drammer/
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dkb: i will explain further when i am out of school and work.
and dylan that stress app is not used for unrooting it was simply a field test where they can see which phones can be compromised. but what i meant was in the same way they did can someone possibly look into developing a way. because if you scroll down they released the templating code. which they also mention they have not released it as a exploit but maybe they will and maybe from that code someone can compile a root maybe?
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dkb: i will explain further when i am out of school and work.
and dylan that stress app is not used for unrooting it was simply a field test where they can see which phones can be compromised. but what i meant was in the same way they did can someone possibly look into developing a way. because if you scroll down they released the templating code. which they also mention they have not released it as a exploit but maybe they will and maybe from that code someone can compile a root maybe?
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I'm not sure you know what you're talking about... you keep saying "unroot" that would be to remove root... the exploit roots phones and allows us to gain root not remove it....
And That is exactly what i said.... "I downloaded the apk to test if you are vulnerable and i didn't see any flips, so we may not be vulnerable."
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I'm not sure you know what you're talking about... you keep saying "unroot" that would be to remove root... the exploit roots phones and allows us to gain root not remove it....
And That is exactly what i said.... "I downloaded the apk to test if you are vulnerable and i didn't see any flips, so we may not be vulnerable."
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sorry I am meaning root, just getting things mixed up, and yeah but they also stated not all device may be ticked at the same time, it can be when device is on low battery.. stuff like that. or simply we might be vulnerable, but we wont know till someone actually tries it out
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I'm not sure you know what you're talking about... you keep saying "unroot" that would be to remove root... the exploit roots phones and allows us to gain root not remove it....
And That is exactly what i said.... "I downloaded the apk to test if you are vulnerable and i didn't see any flips, so we may not be vulnerable."
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Curious... How long did it run with you? I'm running it atm (its been over 45 mins) on aggresive and its still running... ..
djr4x4 said:
Curious... How long did it run with you? I'm running it atm (its been over 45 mins) on aggresive and its still running... ..
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I didn't run on aggressive I left it at default and it didn't run for more than 2 minutes...
Is your device still responsive? Is the word flip or flips in any of the output on the screen?
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Still responsive and its still running.. the times i have glanced at it.. flips is still at 0.. its running right now and im using the phone to type this..
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Just finished and showed 0 flips..
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So far, "Drammer," as the researchers have dubbed their exploit, has successfully rooted the following handsets: the Nexus 4, Nexus 5, and G4 from LG; Moto G models from 2013 and 2014 made by Motorola; the Galaxy S4 and Galaxy S5 from Samsung; and the One from OnePlus. In some cases, the results aren't always consistent. For example, only 12 of the 15 Nexus 5 models were successfully rooted, while only one of two Galaxy S5 were compromised.
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It's not even a sure bet with the Samsung phones two generations ago. So I doubt that it'll work.
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Do we need help getting root on this phone, or is everything the same as the international version? I have my phone in hand, if anyone needs system dumps or anything like that.
Same. i have all the dumps and source on my pc and my phone in hand. LETS DO THIS :cyclops:
Root that $h!t and let us know how it goes. Also, see if the CWM Recovery for the international will work
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I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Pm sent.
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designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Why not post?
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Why not post?
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why would I post something without confirming it works?
designgears said:
why would I post something without confirming it works?
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I think the disclaimer that it was on a test unit is sufficient.. No?
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I think the disclaimer that it was on a test unit is sufficient.. No?
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No, because then who are the dumb a$$es going to blame and bug if it does not work, or breaks something.
Not a smart idea for a dev to post something that they are not sure of, and possibly have people lose faith in that developer. I know as a dev I would not post ANYTHING, that I was not sure if it worked or not. Even if I did it on a test unit, and not a retail phone.
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No, because then who are the dumb a$$es going to blame and bug if it does not work, or breaks something.
Not a smart idea for a dev to post something that they are not sure of, and possibly have people lose faith in that developer. I know as a dev I would not post ANYTHING, that I was not sure if it worked or not. Even if I did it on a test unit, and not a retail phone.
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Fair enough.. guess I wouldn't hold anyone responsible.. especially this early in the game..
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why would I post something without confirming it works?
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DG - are you actually going to hang around here at XDA for a bit or are you just teasing us? :laugh:
This forum is going to need to experienced devs!
designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Designgears... I remember you since you quit working on moto matrix ...
Nice to see you here though. Good news for att guys.
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jdbeitz said:
Same. i have all the dumps and source on my pc and my phone in hand. LETS DO THIS :cyclops:
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Send me the stock boot image please so I can root it.
Mark.
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Eh, that's debateable. In the end it boils down to what you want to do with the device. For me? I want root so I can reinstall Cerberus to the System folder so even if someone wipes my phone, I can still track it. Can't do that without root.
CZ Eddie said:
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Disabaling apps? U can't 100%;disable half this crap At&t put on here .
Awesome battery life? What r u comparison 2? The phone just came out.
Without Root and a custom rom this phone is a SLOW!! ass paper weight! Back to my Galaxy Nexus till we have root for me; )
Yell at me if u want but there's 1000's of us that would take this back to the store if there was no Root; )
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Disabaling apps? U can't 100%;disable half this crap At&t put on here .
Awesome battery life? What r u comparison 2? The phone just came out.
Without Root and a custom rom this phone is a SLOW!! ass paper weight! Back to my Galaxy Nexus till we have root for me; )
Yell at me if u want but there's 1000's of us that would take this back to the store if there was no Root; )
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Actually most of the AT&T stuff can be disabled. The only thing I really can't disable is AT&T Address Book. Other than that? Every AT&T App (all 5 of them) was able to be disabled.....so I'm not sure what you speak of.
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Actually most of the AT&T stuff can be disabled. The only thing I really can't disable is AT&T Address Book. Other than that? Every AT&T App (all 5 of them) was able to be disabled.....so I'm not sure what you speak of.
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Me either. Me thinks he doesn't even have the phone.....
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Me either. Me thinks he doesn't even have the phone.....
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Yea, this is actually the first AT&T Smartphone where I haven't cursed them out for the amount of bloatware installed. Granted I did immediately load Apex Launcher to tide me over until I can install CM9. I hate how touchwiz looks, but that's not AT&T, that's Samsung. This thing honestly speeds along, especially with websites. I'm also apparently in an LTE test area.....with a piss poor signal I was pulling about a 20mbit download and 13 mbit upload. I have to say, it's faster and more responsive than my GSII with CM9. That's impressive considering it is running TW.
Also from looking at his posts he did order it....so he could be using the GNex until he can. Though this pretty much is the GNex....just not running stock Android.
CZ Eddie said:
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Are you forgetting Titanium Backup oh and some Juice Defender stuff needs root. Root is the only way to go.
I really want the S4 but won't pull the trigger until I can do all 3.
1) Ability to tether for free.
2) Google Wallet
3) Able to root without tripping counter ... And receive official updates..
Is this possible yet?
Thinking of maybe getting the note 2 if we don't get the boot loader unlocked...
Numbers 1 and 3 are right now
Have not seen number 2 yet
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It's already been released that the bootloader was unlocked but is not being released until the Verizon variant comes out for obvious reasons. It's a great phone rooted out of the box with AT&T crapware gone, so it's your choice: wait a few weeks for development or go ahead and get one that has dev support.
Btw: The number 2 is Verizon for waiting to release the S4 a MONTH after everyone else.
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Forgive my lack of knowledge, but what are the obvious reasons for waiting for the Verizon variant to be released?
pierre3408 said:
Forgive my lack of knowledge, but what are the obvious reasons for waiting for the Verizon variant to be released?
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Here's the Q&A from the person who has already hacked the bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2259933
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And on the 2st page of that thread:
"Because if he releases the exploit or details now, Verizon can use that information to fix their implementation. It's not guaranteed this approach will work on the Verizon device, but it's FAR less likely if he publishes info on the exploit now. Even this announcement could bode ill for the hopes of Verizon customers - you can guarantee it is going to trigger another round of security review at Samsung and Verizon.
As a result, you're not going to see any detail until then."
Got it. That makes sense..
And thanks for not ripping my ignorance..
I guess I can wait another 2 weeks before I upgrade. No rush until we know for sure we are good to go.
StolenVW said:
Numbers 1 and 3 are right now
Have not seen number 2 yet
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How do i do 3? I didn't realize it tripped counter and used motochopper to root. I was however still able to get an official update.
rexxcastle said:
How do i do 3? I didn't realize it tripped counter and used motochopper to root. I was however still able to get an official update.
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Check out this thread.
pierre3408 said:
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2) Google Wallet
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For working Google Wallet, see this thread in Themes and Apps.
Yes, thanks! I actually saw that earlier today, but don't know if I'm just a dummy, but that confuses the heck out of me.
Don't have clue how to use Xposed framework...
Even the tethering soultion in another thread, still seems complicated...
pierre3408 said:
Yes, thanks! I actually saw that earlier today, but don't know if I'm just a dummy, but that confuses the heck out of me.
Don't have clue how to use Xposed framework...
Even the tethering soultion in another thread, still seems complicated...
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Then maybe you should wait until the unlocked bootloader is released and the S4 has custom recovery, at which time there will probably be a CWM installable zip file for the Google Wallet.
Aou said:
Check out this thread.
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thanks
Will the Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Retail see root by March 1, 2015? Wanted to see what you guys think in a poll.
There are threads where this should go.
There are people messing around with getting root, but nothing real serious. Unfortunately, the Verizon retail Note 4 isn't likely to ever get root, certainly not by March. No chance.
There's a radio button for that
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Will the Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Retail see root by March 1, 2015? Wanted to see what you guys think in a poll.
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I'm mobile, can't see the poll. I'd say between lollipop possibilities and recently discussed exploits, 60% chance.
Are there android phones in the past or current that has never seen root access?
The only thing I use root for is Titanium Backup so I can freeze bloatware. That is about it, but I have enough memory and quite frankly the stock works very well for me.
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They are crackin' pretty hard at it over on the AT&T side. If they find a way, it should work for us. Here's hoping. This thing runs great but these dangforblasted white screens are driving me insane. Time-line? Who knows. The sooner the better.
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They are crackin' pretty hard at it over on the AT&T side. If they find a way, it should work for us. Here's hoping. This thing runs great but these dangforblasted white screens are driving me insane. Time-line? Who knows. The sooner the better.
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This was actually my motivation for starting this thread. It seems like it's heating up a bit over there and I was wondering if that had changed anyone's opinion from the first "Root Poll" thread started a while ago. I'm certainly more optimistic after seeing all of the activity. On the other hand history does seem to shoe that the big advances seem to come from people who have been silently waiting in the wings.
Yea it has been a while since I put up that root poll. It's since died out which is understandable.
My point of view is (and yes I voted) lol
I don't believe well see root in this device! I fear that this is the way it's going to be for most new devices rolling out from here on out. Unless you purchase a dev edition.
To me. The phone runs very well! Use the blocking script and u can free up some ram. Otherwise the only things Im missing the most is cleaning up the notification bar and TiBu. Otherwise I'm happy!
Course this is just my opinion.
Carry on
freddy0872 said:
Yea it has been a while since I put up that root poll. It's since died out which is understandable.
My point of view is (and yes I voted) lol
I don't believe well see root in this device! I fear that this is the way it's going to be for most new devices rolling out from here on out. Unless you purchase a dev edition.
To me. The phone runs very well! Use the blocking script and u can free up some ram. Otherwise the only things Im missing the most is cleaning up the notification bar and TiBu. Otherwise I'm happy!
Course this is just my opinion.
Carry on
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Color Status Bar gives you full control over the notification panel without root. Helium retains a lot of TiBu functionality without root.
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Once I can find a way to spoof GPS without having "Allow Mock Location" I won't be obsessed with this phone getting root. I love the phone regardless.
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Will the Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Retail see root by March 1, 2015? Wanted to see what you guys think in a poll.
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Not gonna happen
Not going to happen. Saving for iPhone 6 plus were jailbreak works no matter what carrier. Maybe the m8. Does the m8 have root on verizon even? It's going to take me a while to save 800 bucks, maybe we will get lucky. Stock would not be bad, but suckwiz is killing me.
I've been optimistic for those on the note 4 verizon version, unfortunatley the sad truth is, its either going to never come to note 4 or will be almost a year till root is achieved. I'm going to be staying with my note 3 for a long time. Possibly forever, until note edge/edge 2 note 5 gets root and custom recovery. Just my opinion, I'm cheering you guys on, it's hard without dev support. Once the dev support get's tripled than might have a better chance. But till then, your gonna have to wait it out. Best of luck and I'm rooting for your guys
I am not optimistic. I suppose it is the DE edition for the N5 or off to another manufacturer whose phone can be rooted.
Can't really put the blame on the manufacturer. I understand that tmobile variant of the Note 4 can be rooted. It's a carrier thing. Maybe Samsung just has a more secure method. But it's only there because Verizon wants it there.
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jpfulton248 said:
Once I can find a way to spoof GPS without having "Allow Mock Location" I won't be obsessed with this phone getting root. I love the phone regardless.
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why do you need to spoof GPS? you play Ingress? if you do, it's against tos
outcasted2003 said:
The only thing I use root for is Titanium Backup so I can freeze bloatware. That is about it, but I have enough memory and quite frankly the stock works very well for me.
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You wouldn't like to be able to write to sdcard using any method of your choice?
Nope. MLB at Bat app. If I want to watch my home team I can't be in the tv/radio "broadcast territory" of either of the teams playing. On my previous phone I used "FakeGPS". Apk has to be copied to "/system/priv-app" in order to work with "Allow Mock Locations" turned off... MLB at Bat app knows if Allow Mock is turned on.
And maybe it was PEBKAC but I'm pretty sure I tried renaming a picture on my SD Card and was denied. Insanity.
Was wandering if there is a way we can get a us cellular thread started for us that have a us cellular LG G4 US991..it would be a nice place to place have a thread for us to talk in about r phones an post things in that works for r phone... thank you
We have root now!
Thanks to tabp0le we now have root!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62114994&highlight=us991#post62114994
Now if only had an exploit for Bill Saver to just disay a blank text url for the add at the top of the screen or something. It'd be even better if I could hack it myself so we'd get it ASAP. We'd still view the ad links, just reduce battery drain, data use, and general frustration and still save.
Valgrahf said:
Thanks to tabp0le we now have root!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62114994&highlight=us991#post62114994
Now if only had an exploit for Bill Saver to just disay a blank text url for the add at the top of the screen or something. It'd be even better if I could hack it myself so we'd get it ASAP. We'd still view the ad links, just reduce battery drain, data use, and general frustration and still save.
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Ya true that bill saver is cool cus well it saves us money but damn I hate not using the g4 lock screen or having 2 lock screens...would be nice to do something else with it so we can still get the 5$ off...an ya I know he got root for us..im just us being problems with the send_command part it keeps popping up with a error msvcr100.dll...an have done everything that I have found to fix it an nothing..I am running Windows 10..I am redoing my computer to see if that helps cus I also meet something as well trying to fix it lol..wish me luck
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Ya true that bill saver is cool cus well it saves us money but damn I hate not using the g4 lock screen or having 2 lock screens...would be nice to do something else with it so we can still get the 5$ off...an ya I know he got root for us..im just us being problems with the send_command part it keeps popping up with a error msvcr100.dll...an have done everything that I have found to fix it an nothing..I am running Windows 10..I am redoing my computer to see if that helps cus I also meet something as well trying to fix it lol..wish me luck
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For some reason I thought I read somewhere on the forums yesterday that after a fresh Windows 10 install someone was having trouble with MTP or Send_Command. I've got root running on my US991 now! I seriously blew my entire night downloading root apps, tweaking things, etc. once I got it rooted. I also read over soooo much of this forum that I can't remember what I read where, haha. Good luck!
Valgrahf said:
Thanks to tabp0le we now have root!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62114994&highlight=us991#post62114994
Now if only had an exploit for Bill Saver to just disay a blank text url for the add at the top of the screen or something. It'd be even better if I could hack it myself so we'd get it ASAP. We'd still view the ad links, just reduce battery drain, data use, and general frustration and still save.
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Here's the link to the post with the download http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62115811&postcount=1251
donbudafuko said:
Ya true that bill saver is cool cus well it saves us money but damn I hate not using the g4 lock screen or having 2 lock screens...would be nice to do something else with it so we can still get the 5$ off...an ya I know he got root for us..im just us being problems with the send_command part it keeps popping up with a error msvcr100.dll...an have done everything that I have found to fix it an nothing..I am running Windows 10..I am redoing my computer to see if that helps cus I also meet something as well trying to fix it lol..wish me luck
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Windows 10 can be tricky. I've had issues in the past issuing any commands to DL mode with Windows 10. This dates back to using my G2. I got it to work this last time trying, but you might have to use another OS if you can't get it to work.
Valgrahf said:
For some reason I thought I read somewhere on the forums yesterday that after a fresh Windows 10 install someone was having trouble with MTP or Send_Command. I've got root running on my US991 now! I seriously blew my entire night downloading root apps, tweaking things, etc. once I got it rooted. I also read over soooo much of this forum that I can't remember what I read where, haha. Good luck!
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Ya idk I'm having a lot of trouble..at the moment I'm reinstalling windows cus my system for fcked up some how...after that I'll give it a shot again..dealt can't wait to get root..does anyone know of any tweaks out there yet..also would've nice to get theams for us since that is the one thing that I notice is missing..an a tweak for the screen glitch
Has anyone rooted your US Cell version yet?
I have the files download and ready but have yet to see the proper commands to run for our version.
Thanks
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PakRatJR said:
Has anyone rooted your US Cell version yet?
I have the files download and ready but have yet to see the proper commands to run for our version.
Thanks
Sent while swerving from my LGG4
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The commands are in a spoiler box on the second post of the root thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62028523&postcount=2
I'm rooted on the US Cellular US991 10c. After a few hours of installing apps, killing bloatware, tweaking the ui, and setting my dpi to 540 I'm also enjoying better battery life and, for some reason, I'm not heating up nearly as much as before I root. Loving it.
Got a chance to get it done. Easy peasy. WOOHOO. Thanks again to all.
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I really liked doing it this way more than the others I have done. So nice not having to re setup the entire phone after.
Sorry to raise a dead thread but any root for the newest update?
TheROMGuy said:
Sorry to raise a dead thread but any root for the newest update?
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Was there root before that? I have the us991, no letters after the 1
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carnivalrejectq said:
Was there root before that? I have the us991, no letters after the 1
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As far as I know there was. And you should have a letter. Like mine is C
TheROMGuy said:
Sorry to raise a dead thread but any root for the newest update?
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If you're referring to MM Update 20C, then not yet. And I am subscribed here for a reason. I have the same reason, and damned if I will settle with "Sorry no root for you". I have been exploring other options with someone else.
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Was there root before that? I have the us991, no letters after the 1
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He's referring to the Software version in Settings > about > Software.
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As far as I know there was. And you should have a letter. Like mine is C
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Ahh yeah its us99111a
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Perseus said:
If you're referring to MM Update 20C, then not yet. And I am subscribed here for a reason. I have the same reason, and damned if I will settle with "Sorry no root for you". I have been exploring other options with someone else.
He's referring to the Software version in Settings > about > Software.
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Ahh yeah its us99111a
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What is the last version that still can get root?
I'm on MM 20a.
I believe it's 10D that can still get root.
Personally I would give the root bounty to Kingroot if they gave us the keys so we could root without having to be connected to the internet.
Root on Demand, even if it is temporary is better than permanent root in some respects.
If we had permanent root some of the phones features would stop working like My Knox Security and Samsung pay and some others apps won't work with root but they will work with Kingroot.
The two problems I see with Kingroot are First, Security, we don't know what information we are sharing with them. I don't like being connected to their server with a rooted phone.. And second, Reliability, they could shut the whole system down any time they get ready and we would have no recourse.
If the Kingroot team would give us the keys and the source code so we could understand how to roots our own phones, I would agree to give them the bounty. I only speak for myself and do not represent anyone connected to the Root Bounty for the Verizon Note 4 on XDA.
P.S. I have updated the updated the first and second post at Kingroot on top of My KNOX, Working Great! !
doctor-cool said:
Personally I would give the root bounty to Kingroot if they gave us the keys so we could root without having to be connected to the internet.
Root on Demand, even if it is temporary is better than permanent root in some respects.
If we had permanent root some of the phones features would stop working like My Knox Security and Samsung pay and some others apps won't work with root but they will work with Kingroot.
The two problems I see with Kingroot are First, Security, we don't know what information we are sharing with them. I don't like being connected to their server with a rooted phone.. And second, Reliability, they could shut the whole system down any time they get ready and we would have no recourse.
If the Kingroot team would give us the keys and the source code so we could understand how to roots our own phones, I would agree to give them the bounty. I only speak for myself and do not represent anyone connected to the Root Bounty for the Verizon Note 4 on XDA.
P.S. I have updated the updated the first and second post at Kingroot on top of My KNOX, Working Great! !
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whats the point of this post? They tell you what information they take and what they do with it already.
Why release their source so others can take it and make their own root tool without need of info and with supersu thus eliminating the need for their tool altogether?
Not to mention the universal exploit doesnt work on all devices so surely they have other root exploits available in those situations that some of us dont need builtt into the app.
And lastly, they alreafy released the recent exploit and how to do it at blackhat so devs can already make their own root tool using the same exploit as king root as it is.
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elliwigy said:
whats the point of this post? They tell you what information they take and what they do with it already.
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And I'm just suppose to take their word for it.............Please
doctor-cool said:
And I'm just suppose to take their word for it.............Please
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thats all you got to go off lol. until theyve been proven of wrong doing you shouldnt accuse them
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elliwigy said:
thats all you got to go off lol. until theyve been proven of wrong doing you shouldnt accuse them
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I'm not accusing them of anything but for all we know they could be part of the Chinese Government building a data base. Then when they need to they could take control of our phones. Turn the cameras on or anything. Look at all the resent hacks into government systems. Can't be to careful.
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I'm not accusing them of anything but for all we know they could be part of the Chinese Government building a data base. Then when they need to they could take control of our phones. Turn the cameras on or anything. Look at all the resent hacks into government systems. Can't be to careful.
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lol theres always hacking of govt systems and im sure the us govt we need to worry about more than foreign governments.. the NSA and the likes most likely already do that and more without anyones knowledge.
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I don't know about giving them the bounty for the info, but I'll never root my phone using such a sketchy method, temporary, permanent, or whatever else.
nh97103 said:
I don't know about giving them the bounty for the info, but I'll never root my phone using such a sketchy method, temporary, permanent, or whatever else.
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lol the op of this thread clearly uses king root as do many others.. but luckily everyone can make their own choice.. i for one dont mind at all and nothing negative has happened to anyone at this point by using king root minus a few apps dont work with their binaries.
no one is going after ping pong root which obviously works in a very similar fashion.. your device needs to be supported and you have to download the data off the cloud as well as they use the same exploit.
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From the website http://www.kingoapp.com/faq.htm
"We manage to obtain root privilege of Android by exploiting certain undisclosed vulnerabilities, which we believe would be patched in no time once made public. And that would dysfunction this software that we've worked so hard for."
Yea right..It has already been patched in LP......
Give us the Keys
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From the website http://www.kingoapp.com/faq.htm
"We manage to obtain root privilege of Android by exploiting certain undisclosed vulnerabilities, which we believe would be patched in no time once made public. And that would dysfunction this software that we've worked so hard for."
Yea right..It has already been patched in LP......
Give us the Keys
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you do realise that isnt even king root right?
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i definitely agree with kingo root.. i tried on my tablet and it installs all kinds of crapware and ads apps that i had a hard time getting rid of.. they would even install after i deleted them and in the end it didnt even root my tablet lol
but that is a completely dif. tool/team than kingroot
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elliwigy said:
you do realise that isnt even king root right?
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i definitely agree with kingo root.. i tried on my tablet and it installs all kinds of crapware and ads apps that i had a hard time getting rid of.. they would even install after i deleted them and in the end it didnt even root my tablet lol
but that is a completely dif. tool/team than kingroot
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Just realized, your right. But why would King root provide a free service. It'seems not just to be nice?
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Just realized, your right. But why would King root provide a free service. It'seems not just to be nice?
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no root tool has charged besides sunshine to my knowledge.. donations are appreciated but technically king root works for a security firm so surely its a hobby and their job to find exploits.. plus xda rules are somewhat tricky.. theres lots on xda ppl dont charge for.
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I'm not accusing them of anything but for all we know they could be part of the Chinese Government building a data base. Then when they need to they could take control of our phones. Turn the cameras on or anything. Look at all the resent hacks into government systems. Can't be to careful.
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Then you should NEVER root your phone! Don't you realize that rooting under any method leaves your phone open to be hacked? There is no such thing as safe rooting. Even with Chainfire's Supersu...if you want your phone secure you need to root, make the changes you want then unroot quickly. It is also true that rooting via an unknown source like Kingroot or any of the other methods that have passed through in the last year or so, is even more dangerous..all of those requiring internet connections to root? It is a question you always need to ask yourself...how bad do you want root and what are you willing to risk.
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Then you should NEVER root your phone! Don't you realize that rooting under any method leaves your phone open to be hacked? There is no such thing as safe rooting. Even with Chainfire's Supersu...if you want your phone secure you need to root, make the changes you want then unroot quickly. It is also true that rooting via an unknown source like Kingroot or any of the other methods that have passed through in the last year or so, is even more dangerous..all of those requiring internet connections to root? It is a question you always need to ask yourself...how bad do you want root and what are you willing to risk.
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there's a slight difference between being open to a hack and being connected to a hacker's server with a rooted phone. They have your ip connected. What more could they ask for?
doctor-cool said:
there's a slight difference between being open to a hack and being connected to a hacker's server with a rooted phone. They have your ip connected. What more could they ask for?
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So does every site you go to and all apps that transfer data online..including games that keep track of high scores. Do you have the source code for all of those? What if they check for root then alter your phone? If you are going to put on the tin foil hat...go all out. Rooting is very dangerous.
But you are right to be wary of these Johnny-come-lately root methods. Again people should consider heavily how much are they willing to risk by rooting...even more so that which requires an internet connection.
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Then you should NEVER root your phone! Don't you realize that rooting under any method leaves your phone open to be hacked? There is no such thing as safe rooting. Even with Chainfire's Supersu...if you want your phone secure you need to root, make the changes you want then unroot quickly. It is also true that rooting via an unknown source like Kingroot or any of the other methods that have passed through in the last year or so, is even more dangerous..all of those requiring internet connections to root? It is a question you always need to ask yourself...how bad do you want root and what are you willing to risk.
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Don't all changes to the system need to be allowed by the superuser app? Also I use Adfree Android. It provides a hosts file that blocks you from going to all known malicious websites. Doesn't that give at least a pretty good measure of safety. And what about antivirus?
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Don't all changes to the system need to be allowed by the superuser app? Also I use Adfree Android. It provides a hosts file that blocks you from going to all known malicious websites. Doesn't that give at least a pretty good measure of safety.
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There are ways around that...especially if it is an unknown superuser app...we have some faith in Chainfire and his Supersu catching all requests..but as the OP stated...how do we know with unknown quantities how well their app catches superuser requests. Like rooting in general, exploits in apps can be found too. This makes you think then...what if the source is posted? Will that make it easier for hackers to find back doors?
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There are ways around that...especially if it is an unknown superuser app...we have some faith in Chainfire and his Supersu catching all requests..but as the OP stated...how do we know with unknown quantities how well their app catches superuser requests. Like rooting in general, exploits in apps can be found too. This makes you think then...what if the source is posted? Will that make it easier for hackers to find back doors?
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Yeah I'm sure you're right. Isn't hacking something that antivirus providers are working against? Or maybe there's a firewall or a sandboxing procedure that could help?
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Yeah I'm sure you're right. Isn't hacking something that antivirus providers are working against? Or maybe there's a firewall or a sandboxing procedure that could help?
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The sandbox is to use the "Personal" side of My Knox Security as a Playground as described here Kingroot on top of My KNOX, Working Great! !
This.
If anyone trust them and wants to connect to their honey trap...thats on them.
Some people seem crazy to do this just to get rooted
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there's a slight difference between being open to a hack and being connected to a hacker's server with a rooted phone. They have your ip connected. What more could they ask for?
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