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Need some help with upgrade to s4

I really want to upgrade to s4 now!
I am in att 3 lines family plan right now
so the problem is my line is not eligible for an upgrade until Jun 22,2013
but I can't wait anymore.
so anyone done this before?? online chat or call the customer services?
how should I talk to them so they will change that date for me ?
if anyone done this please give me some idea. thanks
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ok update, they not able to change the upgrade dates for me online. so I guess I have to call
I mean is that possible to do that? just call them to change the upgrade date? anyone done that before?

I live in Puerto Rico and AT&T here lets you upgrade 6 months before the contract term ends, this is in a 2 year contract. But I only learned that because I went to the store and asked about it, so I guess you can give it a shot.
Sent from my AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIII...if you were wondering...

Call up att rep and tell them that u talked to someone before on phone and they told you that you can upgrade. The rep will most likely give u upgrade over the phone. I did six months earlier for note 2 & my next one is due on November but I will get s4 in may again six months earlier
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Your best bet is to call in & hope u get lucky with a rep/manager that's able to help you out. Be nice & courteous since it will go a long ways. Try again if it doesn't work a few times. Worst case is to say u will leave if u don't get it but should be last case.
Best of luck to you!
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I have a 4 line account and my line was not eligible for upgrade. I was able to use another lines upgrade, but AT&T told me their policy has changed for this and if you are upgrading to a smartphone, the line you are using the upgrade from also needs to have smartphone data attached to it. In my case I did not, so they wanted me to add data to that line at $20 a month. I said no way, I will just port my lines to another carrier and they finallty caved. The policy just changed last week is what they told me so I have no way of knowing if its true. I hate using the "I'll leave" tactic but when it comes to me spending money monthly for something I have no problem dropping and switching to someone else. I go through it every year when my cable TV promo expires too, LOL.

[Q] About to buy a VZW Note 3 ... any recommendations?

My lame 4 year old Android finally died (well, actually more like the touch screen went epileptic), and I'm going to pick up a Note 3 from a VZW store in a couple hours.
(Even more insane, I'm going to drop my month-to-month unlimited data plan for the carrier subsidy and re-up with BigRed for 2 years - but that's a topic for another time)
Anyway, what I wanted to ask was this: is there any reason that I should insist that the VZW rep just leave the phone in the box rather than activating it in the store (and risking an OTA update)?
I'm comfortable doing the activation later if there is a credible reason to take the phone home and check it's bootloader version info before I boot it normally for the first time. (I suspect that the Note 3 inventories are moving at a good clip, so a unit bought from a VZW store might have recent firmware anyway).
Apologies for the lame question; I had 4 candidate phones in mind (Sammy S4, LG G2, HTC One) and didn't have much time to become an expert in the current state of affairs about rooting all of them... other than to note that Samsung has recently become much more restrictive in the past couple of months (e.g. with the S4/Knox stuff).
tia

The most current version is MJE. Which you can root with Kingo app. MI9 was what the phone had when it first came out. Which was rooted by designgears with de la vega. Then mJ7 was released and we had to use Kingo. So since the second update everyone has had to use kingo.
So if you want to root that's what your going to have to use.

bftb0 said:
My lame 4 year old Android finally died (well, actually more like the touch screen went epileptic), and I'm going to pick up a Note 3 from a VZW store in a couple hours.
(Even more insane, I'm going to drop my month-to-month unlimited data plan for the carrier subsidy and re-up with BigRed for 2 years - but that's a topic for another time)
Anyway, what I wanted to ask was this: is there any reason that I should insist that the VZW rep just leave the phone in the box rather than activating it in the store (and risking an OTA update)?
I'm comfortable doing the activation later if there is a credible reason to take the phone home and check it's bootloader version info before I boot it normally for the first time. (I suspect that the Note 3 inventories are moving at a good clip, so a unit bought from a VZW store might have recent firmware anyway).
Apologies for the lame question; I had 4 candidate phones in mind (Sammy S4, LG G2, HTC One) and didn't have much time to become an expert in the current state of affairs about rooting all of them... other than to note that Samsung has recently become much more restrictive in the past couple of months (e.g. with the S4/Knox stuff).
tia
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My reccomendation is this 1. Stay far away from the Smartwatch they will try and sell you 2. Ignore their offered Insurion Warantee, and go with Square Trade (Just Google it)
No issues with rooting and custom ROM's are doable. Gopher it man!

If it's not too late, get the 6 GB plan for $30 instead of the 2 GB for $30 they will try to out you on. If you do not do it at the time you buy the phone there is no other way to get it. If you already have the 2 GB plan it is impossible to get onto the 6 GB one.
The only way you can get it is when you are upgrading and loosing unlimited. The system will not let you get the plan if you are not about to loose unlimited.
Here's a more detailed thread on Howard forums: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1816163-6-GB-for-30

@jack584
Thanks. I gave it a bit of thought; the other alternative to the Max 6GB plan is a 2 GB "loyalty" data plan for $60/mo. Someone coming off of a month-to-month unlimited plan has 14 days to waffle about their decision.
Phone is rooted. (Kingo + safestrap + SuperSU replace)
For grins (post-rooting), I started the OTA and let it download (phone came out if the box with MJ7). When the download finished, I pulled the OTA file out of /cache/fota/ and then "took" the OTA. Naturally it failed I guess I'll see if I get nags now...

Order Canceled by VZW

Woke up this am to a shiny new email from VZW about my N4 order. Not that it was shipped, but that it was canceled.
Anyone else get one of these? On the phone at the moment to find out why, currently on hold, don't think they know why.

That is ironic. I canceled my N4 preorder with VZW and they asked me twice, "Are you SURE you want to cancel it?". They zap yours without you even calling or asking you once.

Just got off the phone with them. Never did give me a reason, they just 'released' it and I should be getting info on when it should be shipped.
From what I've been reading on here, it may be going back unopened. Without root, I won't touch it. May go with the Nexus 6. Will hurt getting a phone without SD card support, and love the SPen, but root is more important.
While typing this, VZW just called me back and told me that the order cannot be released and that I will have to re-order it online.

They did me the same way I don't understand them

I am holding on to a .00000000001% hope that root will happen by November 1st, since the last day of the Best Buy $200 offer. No root by then, I will cancel that order too. No card writes is not an option for the apps I use.
Sad I have to base my decision not on the device, but Android's arrogant and blatant cattle prodding efforts of trying to kill sd cards. Nexus does not have them, so neither should other devices- in their minds.

Same thing happened to me. I ended up calling and they told me it was fraud because we ordered 4 high end phones and the same time (2 Iphone 6 64GB and 2 Note 4). They then had to recreate my preorder. Now i am sitting in limbo waiting for my tracking info.
BTW, those that had theirs canceled, did you order through Edge? MIne was through Edge.

Mine got zapped as well. Had to call them and re-order it using EDGE program as my contract wasn't up yet.
Thankfully it was early enough where I could still get it ordered and delivered on the 23rd.

I was not on edge, but I was going to have it on my bill.
I'm fine with the cancel now. I don't know what is going to happen with root. If they root it wonderful, but what happens if/when Lollipop comes to it?? I think I'm just going to shell out the cash and get the dev version.

Well, there goes my theory that there was a hiccup with the Edge orders. =p I'm just glad VZW was able to fix all the cancellations.

Just had 4 N4s handed to me that I have to setup for people here at work. I want one, but, if there is no root, wont be getting one.

igknight said:
I was not on edge, but I was going to have it on my bill.
I'm fine with the cancel now. I don't know what is going to happen with root. If they root it wonderful, but what happens if/when Lollipop comes to it?? I think I'm just going to shell out the cash and get the dev version.
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I'm pretty confident that there will be root for this phone. Idk why people are so worried...bootloader is a different story
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I think there was a version of the N2 that wasn't rootable, and from what I've heard (may be wrong as I don't care about the phone and never looked into it), the VZW S5 currently isn't rooted. Again, that may be wrong.
I think the phone will get root, but if it gets Lollipop it more than likely wont be rootable.

My order was canceled also when i called and complained they used some jump in line form to redo the order i should get it sometime today according to fed ex

S5 is rootable but boot loader is locked. Or at least last time I checked. Only reason I care about root is for Wi-Fi tether and foxfi fixed that.

Foxfi is important, but for me its more adwaway, titanium backup, Xposed, and xprivacy. Don't think I can use another phone wihout xprivacy.

Nexus 6 released on Verizon February 26th ?

obviously take this with a huge grain of salt, but just had a live chat with VZW rep to ask about the N6. I do this randomly just to see what kind of (non) answers I get.
However, this dude fired back with an exact date of February 26th. That date is on a Thursday, which is traditionally the day that Verizon launches new phones. Just struck me odd that he had such a specific answer, and went on to say that he had just recently been given the information.
Of course I've tried to live chat again three times since then, and each one of the reps said that they have no information about the N6 lol.
Take it for what it's worth.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ck2umbvxavggzk/PicsArt_1420293163355.jpg?dl=0
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trying to upload my screenshot of the conversation, but the forum is being difficult :/
Mod Edit: Attached the pic for you. I don't think embedding a https location works.

Lol only 4 months after every other provider. Just enough time to load it up with bloat and bugs.

on a sidenote, anyone know why I can't upload an image?
very frustrating.

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I was also informed today and "assured" by a verizon rep (via chat) that they would be getting the Nexus 6 on February 26. They also said that the Samsung Note Edge would be coming out January 8th. I guess that will be the first test of this reps information.

My money is on April 1st.

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solzy1.0 said:
I was also informed today and "assured" by a verizon rep (via chat) that they would be getting the Nexus 6 on February 26. They also said that the Samsung Note Edge would be coming out January 8th. I guess that will be the first test of this reps information.
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I can tell you with 100% certainty that the note edge will be released on january 8th for verizon...no word on the nexus 6 for sure but i have also heard february 26th

Eh, i am not going to believe any rep. As far as this goes, i worked for Tmobile and ATT customer support and we where never really told anything ahead of time from everyone else. We where told to keep customers either happy or holding on with the company. It has been a few years ago from that though, so i dont know if that policy has changed. :good:

I got tired of waiting for Verizon and bought directly from Motorola using their finance program. Received my phone in 3 days Cut down my Sim card and I'm good to go.
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jett2314 said:
I got tired of waiting for Verizon and bought directly from Motorola using their finance program. Received my phone in 3 days Cut down my Sim card and I'm good to go.
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Same here. Works like a champ

TeeX2.0 said:
obviously take this with a huge grain of salt, but just had a live chat with VZW rep to ask about the N6. I do this randomly just to see what kind of (non) answers I get.
However, this dude fired back with an exact date of February 26th. That date is on a Thursday, which is traditionally the day that Verizon launches new phones. Just struck me odd that he had such a specific answer, and went on to say that he had just recently been given the information.
Of course I've tried to live chat again three times since then, and each one of the reps said that they have no information about the N6 lol.
Take it for what it's worth.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ck2umbvxavggzk/PicsArt_1420293163355.jpg?dl=0
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trying to upload my screenshot of the conversation, but the forum is being difficult :/
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A poster on Reddit said he was told at a corporate store the same thing. The rep, after looking it up, said the computer was showing February 26th availability.

and i just asked and was told there is no scheduled release. thats pretty far ahead for a release date anyway.

i just asked two reps and i got nothing out of either one of them

I just want VoLTE already on my Nexus. No voice and data simultaneously is a bit annoying and per usual is probably because of Waiting for Verizon release their version.

Nexus 6 currently on Verizon Network
I recently bought the Nexus 6 and is currently running on the Verizon Network. Originally, the local Verizon dealer refused to add the Nexus 6 phone to the network since it was not a "Verizon Phone". My philosophy is, "Never let a multi multi multi billion dollar tech company tell what they cant do". By saying this, I called the Verizon Tier 2 support and they were able to activate the phone from their location bought using the same simcard number that was used from my Note 2 phone. Now, after two days, I was booted off the Verizon network and was told via message that I need to sign back on the Verizon network. After a few days corresponding with tier 2 tech support, the reason for the booting off the system was i was using a new "nano simcard" which resulted in a new simcard number. Originally, they recommended that i find someone with a new Motorola phone and activate my simcard through their phone ( long story) and then re-transfer back to the new simcard for the Nexus 6 to work but that greatly avoided. As a result, my Nexus 6 is currently working without any problems . Lastly, they will have to submit a "DMD Form" to "register" your non-Verizon phone. Hope this helps.

princehtml said:
I recently bought the Nexus 6 and is currently running on the Verizon Network. Originally, the local Verizon dealer refused to add the Nexus 6 phone to the network since it was not a "Verizon Phone". My philosophy is, "Never let a multi multi multi billion dollar tech company tell what they cant do". By saying this, I called the Verizon Tier 2 support and they were able to activate the phone from their location bought using the same simcard number that was used from my Note 2 phone. Now, after two days, I was booted off the Verizon network and was told via message that I need to sign back on the Verizon network. After a few days corresponding with tier 2 tech support, the reason for the booting off the system was i was using a new "nano simcard" which resulted in a new simcard number. Originally, they recommended that i find someone with a new Motorola phone and activate my simcard through their phone ( long story) and then re-transfer back to the new simcard for the Nexus 6 to work but that greatly avoided. As a result, my Nexus 6 is currently working without any problems . Lastly, they will have to submit a "DMD Form" to "register" your non-Verizon phone. Hope this helps.
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That sounds like too much work and a big hassle just to stay with a carrier. Its reminiscent of when I had Verizon a few year ago.
I wonder if VZW will try to lock down the Nexus and if Google will let them.

Sorry for the newbie question.
When you said you cut the (VZW) Sim card and inserted it, the phone booted up and you started using it as simple as that?
Sent from my SM-T320 using Tapatalk

I think China may get the phone before Verizon.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/0...he-moto-x-pro-like-the-nexus-6-but-for-china/

Benjamin1966 said:
Sorry for the newbie question.
When you said you cut the (VZW) Sim card and inserted it, the phone booted up and you started using it as simple as that?
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Yes, that simple. I am with VZW. I had a Galaxy S3 with a Micro SIM. I picked up a punch on Amazon (I didn't trust trying to use scissors but many people have success with them) ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FW70ZF6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ).
I got my N6, unlocked it, decrypted it, rooted it, transferred apps via Titanium Backup, and then punched the SIM and moved it from the GS3 to the N6. Booted up and it worked. Have not had any problems at all. *knock* *knock*

A Verizon nexus is NOT a nexus. Is just another fully OEM Verizon locked device.
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Pilz said:
That sounds like too much work and a big hassle just to stay with a carrier. Its reminiscent of when I had Verizon a few year ago.
I wonder if VZW will try to lock down the Nexus and if Google will let them.
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If bought directly from Verizon.. Yes locked boot loader with modified software/firmware tampered trip counter and of course Verizon proprietary bloatware.

The online chat reps are the worst... If it is really true that VZW will carry it on 2/26 add another one to two months cause of supply issues + VZW tramp stamp time.

Leasing and Rooting/Flashing ROMS

Hey everyone,
So I currently own a S4 on Sprint and it's rooted with a custom ROM and I use the mobile hotspot for my internet at home ( can't get any decent internet in the apartment I live in ). I have been looking into finally upgrading to the S7, but it's a little too pricey to outright buy it so I am looking into leasing it.
I have never leased a phone so I am not sure how it works in regards to rooting, flashing ROMS, and most importantly for me at the moment the mobile hotspot. I have never had an issue so far with getting throttled or been warned about my data usage from Sprint so far, but I'm not sure if their policies change if I start leasing a phone from them. I figure when it comes time to turn my phone back in I could flash it back to stock. I remember though that with KNOX even if you flash back to stock the warranty would still be voided and I'm not sure if that would be a problem when I try to flash back to stock before returning the phone.
Any guidance on the issue would be appreciated.

I also upgraded from a S4. right now i have a S7 that i just got today. flashing and rooting should have no affect except that your warranty will be void. if you really care, then you can always flash stock rom via odin after you download the firmware from SamMobile. my S4 has been rooted and went through like 10 different roms.

If Knox is tripped my understanding is some features won't work. I could see this being problematic upon return. Though if you're careful and don't trip knox as long as you flash back I don't see it would be an issue.

VeriSkye said:
If Knox is tripped my understanding is some features won't work. I could see this being problematic upon return. Though if you're careful and don't trip knox as long as you flash back I don't see it would be an issue.
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Is it possible to not trip Knox these days? If I remember correctly there was a time when there was no way around it.

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Is it possible to not trip Knox these days? If I remember correctly there was a time when there was no way around it.
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No, there is no known way not to trip knox unless you have a factory engineering image

Depending on your plan, Hotspot is included if you have one of the gig bucket plans. Use to have to do Hotspot tweaks too,
I went from the 1500 unlimited data, to a 3gig plan and Hotspot is included.
My plan with 2 ezpay s7 phones and 3 gigs is much less than I was paying. Plus I never use more than 3 gigs, usually way less with wifi.

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Is it possible to not trip Knox these days? If I remember correctly there was a time when there was no way around it.
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I thought it was. But I've been living in the HTC world for a while so I admittedly haven't kept up like I used to.

I am also leasing my s7 edge.
I dont think there would be an issue root and roming the phone, as long as:
A; you do not call sprint for software issues.
B; if you do, put stock back on the phone before hand.
If you have hardware issues, its OK to call sprint, just dont tell them the phone is rooted. You will have to put the phone back to stock (hopefully knox resets when this happens) to return the phone for hardware replacement.
I've replaced my Samsung phones so many times. I have the monthly insurance.

Thanks for the replies... If anyone does know how to reset Knox/warranty bit when going back to stock let me know. Now to wait for a hotspot mod. I do have GalaxyTools still on my S4. Anyone know if that would work?

There is no way to reset Knox.

sj7ftw said:
Hey everyone,
So I currently own a S4 on Sprint and it's rooted with a custom ROM and I use the mobile hotspot for my internet at home ( can't get any decent internet in the apartment I live in ). I have been looking into finally upgrading to the S7, but it's a little too pricey to outright buy it so I am looking into leasing it.
I have never leased a phone so I am not sure how it works in regards to rooting, flashing ROMS, and most importantly for me at the moment the mobile hotspot. I have never had an issue so far with getting throttled or been warned about my data usage from Sprint so far, but I'm not sure if their policies change if I start leasing a phone from them. I figure when it comes time to turn my phone back in I could flash it back to stock. I remember though that with KNOX even if you flash back to stock the warranty would still be voided and I'm not sure if that would be a problem when I try to flash back to stock before returning the phone.
Any guidance on the issue would be appreciated.
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The S7 in my op is so far above the S4 it is scary. Well worth your lease. Also if at the end of the lease terms you want to buy the phone Sprint has options. I got a loyalty discount on my lease at 50% off. With the buy option at the end leasing the phone I would save around 200$ as opposed to buying it out right.

No way to untrip Knox, and it IS against the terms of your lease, just FYI.

Right now this is all moot. Bootloader is locked. Unfortunately.

All us is locked

Instead of leasing there is the payment to own, this way you are buying it instead. I didn't there was leasing option for the S7 yet.

As far as the payment to own... i dont understand why anyone would want to do that? It seems much better to sign two years and pay $250.00 in stead of paying the full price after payments are said and done. Am i missing something? or i don't see a bigger picture everyone else does.

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As far as the payment to own... i dont understand why anyone would want to do that? It seems much better to sign two years and pay $250.00 in stead of paying the full price after payments are said and done. Am i missing something? or i don't see a bigger picture everyone else does.
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The service costs more with a two-year contract, so there's that. It doesn't actually work out that you get the phone $500 cheaper. You make up for it in the cost of service.
IMO the Galaxy Forever is the way to go. New phone every 12 months, no need to worry about the battery being unreplaceable, an old Android having little resale value, etc.

lost0138 said:
As far as the payment to own... i dont understand why anyone would want to do that? It seems much better to sign two years and pay $250.00 in stead of paying the full price after payments are said and done. Am i missing something? or i don't see a bigger picture everyone else does.
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The only reason I have considered the leasing option with the payment to own is I got a huge discount through Sprint for being with them for over 10 years. Without that discount the lease option and the payment option are about the same end cost. As far as the 2 year contract, I have not been given that option through Sprint, the only time I see that option is for new customers when I am not signed into my account on the web site.
I am right now on the Galaxy for life program because I have opted for the lease with Sprint. Unless the next Note or Galaxy is a home run and includes a removable battery cover I don't know if I will opt for the upgrade when they come out. I really dig this GS7.

Sign and pass along
https://www.change.org/p/sprint-unl...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

Zer0C0oL said:
The only reason I have considered the leasing option with the payment to own is I got a huge discount through Sprint for being with them for over 10 years. Without that discount the lease option and the payment option are about the same end cost. As far as the 2 year contract, I have not been given that option through Sprint, the only time I see that option is for new customers when I am not signed into my account on the web site.
I am right now on the Galaxy for life program because I have opted for the lease with Sprint. Unless the next Note or Galaxy is a home run and includes a removable battery cover I don't know if I will opt for the upgrade when they come out. I really dig this GS7.
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That's why I did the lease too. I got $10 off a month and I get to upgrade next year. I love to upgrade so it was a no brainer for me.