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[Q] current best root method 2/5 n9005

I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
if there isn't support for loading a third party boot loader without tripping knox, what's the best way to back up my system image?
how can I go about restoring it if i seriously mess something up?
can i do a full wipe and restore without a third party boot loader?
can i do a factory restore using external means like odin without tripping knox / invalidating my warranty?
also, does anybody happen to know why samsung abandoned the *REALLY* nice design arrangement of the menu keys being a row of capacitive touch buttons across the bottom of the phone as seen on the galaxy s, s2, original note, and original samsung galaxy tab? - i've had several of these devices (i'm currently upgrading from an original note to a note 3), and I loved the row of capacitive touch keys vs the (pretty dumb imho) physical menu key (that can be easily broken or stuck). for a key you press a billion times a day over 2+ years it occurs to me that you should have something that has minimal mechanical movement to preserve it's functionality. </rant> - but seriously, why?
I know these all sound like n00b questions, but knox threw a wrench into my understanding of how to do this right. on my note i717 i can easily flash stock and twrp via odin, use twrp to back up the system (if and whenever i'd like), and install any compatible rom i please without additional implications... I really wish that the note 3 were that flexible. (and that there were more devs working on software for note 3... I'd really like to see ubuntu touch dual booting on a phone this awesome.).

So, before the phone arrives, you have plenty of time to educate yourself. There are thousands of threads regarding this topic.
Google and XDA are your friends.
Sent from my SM-N9005

first of all do not do any ota updates if you do like i did you can not root without tripping knox..if your lucky and your note comes with an early firmware you have a chance of rooting and not tripping knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487916
it all depends on what bootloader you have.but as far as i understand it you can not use twrp or cwm without tripping knox
cpgeek said:
I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
if there isn't support for loading a third party boot loader without tripping knox, what's the best way to back up my system image?
how can I go about restoring it if i seriously mess something up?
can i do a full wipe and restore without a third party boot loader?
can i do a factory restore using external means like odin without tripping knox / invalidating my warranty?
also, does anybody happen to know why samsung abandoned the *REALLY* nice design arrangement of the menu keys being a row of capacitive touch buttons across the bottom of the phone as seen on the galaxy s, s2, original note, and original samsung galaxy tab? - i've had several of these devices (i'm currently upgrading from an original note to a note 3), and I loved the row of capacitive touch keys vs the (pretty dumb imho) physical menu key (that can be easily broken or stuck). for a key you press a billion times a day over 2+ years it occurs to me that you should have something that has minimal mechanical movement to preserve it's functionality. </rant> - but seriously, why?
I know these all sound like n00b questions, but knox threw a wrench into my understanding of how to do this right. on my note i717 i can easily flash stock and twrp via odin, use twrp to back up the system (if and whenever i'd like), and install any compatible rom i please without additional implications... I really wish that the note 3 were that flexible. (and that there were more devs working on software for note 3... I'd really like to see ubuntu touch dual booting on a phone this awesome.).
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I bought my device used and was informed that it has the latest ota kitkat updates per about 2 weeks ago. is root not a possibility in this case at all?

you can root if it's still 4.3 but you can not do it without tripping knox...which is the same possition i'm in..my advice is hold off doing any updates or trying to root for a few weeks ...maybe somebody will find a new exploit
cpgeek said:
I bought my device used and was informed that it has the latest ota kitkat updates per about 2 weeks ago. is root not a possibility in this case at all?
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decardpain said:
you can root if it's still 4.3 but you can not do it without tripping knox...which is the same possition i'm in..my advice is hold off doing any updates or trying to root for a few weeks ...maybe somebody will find a new exploit
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is there anything that I can't do if i trigger knox (besides sending my phone to samsung's warranty service). does selinux still work properly if knox is triggered? what's the feature actually FOR (besides voiding warranty)?

cpgeek said:
I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
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I might come a little late - but you seem to be on AT&T - are you certain that N9005 is what you wanted? My feeling was that the T-Mobile version was the only other one (than AT&Ts own, which has locked bootloader, while TMo does not) that could do LTE on AT&T, but I might be wrong
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile

xclub_101 said:
I might come a little late - but you seem to be on AT&T - are you certain that N9005 is what you wanted? My feeling was that the T-Mobile version was the only other one (than AT&Ts own, which has locked bootloader, while TMo does not) that could do LTE on AT&T, but I might be wrong
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
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yes, i'm on at&t and it's the sm-n9005 that should arrive at my door tomorrow. the n9005 literature i've read says it is lte enabled, and from what i understand is exactly the same hardware that at&t's own variant uses chip for chip. why would there be a problem... and even if it does come down to it, can't i just flash the at&t modem and be done with it?

You cannot Flash t-mobile modem on a att n9005 and vice versa. Samsung now =dictator, your freedom is slowly becoming....

cpgeek said:
yes, i'm on at&t and it's the sm-n9005 that should arrive at my door tomorrow. the n9005 literature i've read says it is lte enabled, and from what i understand is exactly the same hardware that at&t's own variant uses chip for chip. why would there be a problem... and even if it does come down to it, can't i just flash the at&t modem and be done with it?
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You will be very surprised
First things on the N9005 - disable security updates and reject any OTA updates, then check your existing firmware. Read in this forum and specifically in the AT&T forum if you can make things work, if you want to root read about knox and warranty.

New to the Note 3, wanting to know about what I can do with this.

More specifically, I have had the note 1, then the note 3 neo, And as some of us know, various phones have there little idiosyncrasies, ie; if one's firmware is updated to x.x.x you can't do such and such. In the past I spent hours looking through relevant forums and spent much time experimenting with my phones since the HTC HD2 Leo. I'm no Dev, but I am somewhat savvy. Now however, I don't have the time, had to replace the neo, (kindy glad, cause it doesn't have quite as much going for it.) because the modem quit, I think I know why, but it's so beat up now it was a little embarrassing to be seen in public with it. So now iI have the note 3 with 4.4.4. I want root, preferably without tripping knox, as it has not yet been tripped, howeever, not a deal breaker. I don't want to brick it, Almost did that too many times to the neo, And its no fun, takes too much time to fix. So can anyone tell me or point me to a thread that has good info on what I can do to this thing? I'm not as flash happy as I used to be, but I do like to and sometimes need to access features and capabilities that aren't always stock. Thanks in advance,
Cheers

You are in the wrong forum if you have a Neo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-neo

Boot into download and post the model #. You can't root without tripping knox on KK or LP as far as I know.

audit13 said:
Boot into download and post the model #. You can't root without tripping knox on KK or LP as far as I know.
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TowellRoot is for rooting on kitkat without trip knox. I did it successfully.

I suppose it depends on model number of the phone? Not sure since I always root via supersu and a custom recovery.

JJEgan said:
You are in the wrong forum if you have a Neo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-neo
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neo was my last device. now i have the note 3 sm-n900a, and the sm-n900v, though i am referring to the att variant, because that is the forum i meant to post in
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now i gotta look into moving or reposting this where i meant to.
darn.

With the n900a, rooting is a little trickier since the bootloader is locked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/root-lollipop-att-note-3-safestrap-t3132475

LG-H873 (Canada) G6

Does anyone know if the TWRP (international) version works on this (Canada) version of the G6? What I would like to do is install TWRP and Lineage OS, however, neither TWRP or Lineage have a LG-H873 version of their downloads.
As far as Lineage OS is concerned, the G6 versions they have are for the EU and the US. TWRP only has an International version listed, whatever that is? International as far as the US is concerned, or South Korea?
The technical specifications for LG-H873 are identical to the LG-US997, however, does anyone have any further knowledge about any differences between the two models?
Hope someone can help. Thanks to those who try.

Your version of the G6 (Canadian) cannot officially have it's bootloader unlocked and subsequently (unfortunately) there are no options at all for you.. as far as installing TWRP, root or custom ROMS goes..

Clarify the LG-H873 Status and possible future please
Anarchist77 said:
Your version of the G6 (Canadian) cannot officially have it's bootloader unlocked and subsequently (unfortunately) there are no options at all for you.. as far as installing TWRP, root or custom ROMS goes..
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I know there was no exploit for the lg-h873 bootloader unlock as of yet, but based on the above, is this saying that our handset is unlikely to ever be unlocked due to some technical reason? I am quite nervous when I see most posts about this are from last spring, and here we are 2018, with no sign of any work or progress or anything. Just the seemingly resigned line that it's not possible. Can someone clarify this? I just got this phone right before christmas, and I am freaking livid at finding this out. Anyone have any advice if this is a likely permanent problem on how to approach getting the handset switched or exchanged with the carrier or other due to this "gotcha" bullSh it?
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Frodobongins said:
I know there was no exploit for the lg-h873 bootloader unlock as of yet, but based on the above, is this saying that our handset is unlikely to ever be unlocked due to some technical reason? I am quite nervous when I see most posts about this are from last spring, and here we are 2018, with no sign of any work or progress or anything. Just the seemingly resigned line that it's not possible. Can someone clarify this? I just got this phone right before christmas, and I am freaking livid at finding this out. Anyone have any advice if this is a likely permanent problem on how to approach getting the handset switched or exchanged with the carrier or other due to this "gotcha" bullSh it?
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Obviously, not meaning calling them up and saying "HEY, you blocked my hacking/rooting". In case that wasn't clear. I'm not above misrepresenting myself on THIS issue if the outcome is positive. Just returning the favor. By the way, the carrier is Telus if that matters

The bootloader is locked and that is final. Unless someone finds a massive exploit, there will be no root or ROM's for phones that have locked bootloader. I have the H873 on Koodo and it sucks but LG's stock rom is good enough.

I also have the Canadian variant and tbh I feel that (for me at least) rooting is not necessary.
Don't get me wrong, every other android phones that I owned were rooted and I loved it!
But with the G6, the stock ROM is not bad at all! The two main things I was "afraid" of at first were bloatware and ads (missing adaway) but you can debloat with the ADB method and I'm using blokada for blocking ads and I must say I'm very happy with this phone!
Other thing is, root means no android pay and that's something I'm planning to try very soon!
So no root is not as bad as I thought at first!

Anarchist77 said:
Your version of the G6 (Canadian) cannot officially have it's bootloader unlocked and subsequently (unfortunately) there are no options at all for you.. as far as installing TWRP, root or custom ROMS goes..
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Thanks for this, I had no idea that this was the case. I'm going to guess that the locked bootloader must be the difference between the Canadian and US versions.

moxon04 said:
I also have the Canadian variant and tbh I feel that (for me at least) rooting is not necessary.
Don't get me wrong, every other android phones that I owned were rooted and I loved it!
But with the G6, the stock ROM is not bad at all! The two main things I was "afraid" of at first were bloatware and ads (missing adaway) but you can debloat with the ADB method and I'm using blokada for blocking ads and I must say I'm very happy with this phone!
Other thing is, root means no android pay and that's something I'm planning to try very soon!
So no root is not as bad as I thought at first!
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I'm using Android pay, no problems and it works very well. It's a shame that only a few Canadian banks are accepting it. However, you can put your Canadian Tire money card on it, along with Air Miles, Aeroplan and Scene rewards cards.

Android pay works well

justinxfan said:
The bootloader is locked and that is final. Unless someone finds a massive exploit, there will be no root or ROM's for phones that have locked bootloader. I have the H873 on Koodo and it sucks but LG's stock rom is good enough.
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At the risk of sounding stupid or slow.....| The above is clear, but I was seeking clarification as to the status. As in, is the bootloader being locked something that is permanent? or reversible? Something that could be unlocked by LG if they so desired (like if they decided "hey, we should open the bootloader like we do for other countries) as some point). Not saying they ever would do so. But I was curious if this was the kind of thing where technical reasons or architecture made it impossible with the existing model. Or if LG could technically roll out a software patch that allowed it to unlock. Forgive me for sounding stupid here. I have been rooting every samsung phone and tablet I've come across going back to the s2 (roughly 7 devices). Each one of those, whatever the case or obstruction, eventually that root was available. So here is my very first LG device, and I'm so used to it being a given that access was possible...eventually, that I can't figure out why this fairly popular handset is basically a write off. Yes, no need to repeat, because the bootloader is locked. But of all the devices with root access possible, have none of them had locked bootloaders? Is there something structurally harder to get around with LG vs others? Please indulge me a little more detail as to why this is so unlikely. Thanks in advance

Frodobongins said:
At the risk of sounding stupid or slow.....| The above is clear, but I was seeking clarification as to the status. As in, is the bootloader being locked something that is permanent? or reversible? Something that could be unlocked by LG if they so desired (like if they decided "hey, we should open the bootloader like we do for other countries) as some point). Not saying they ever would do so. But I was curious if this was the kind of thing where technical reasons or architecture made it impossible with the existing model. Or if LG could technically roll out a software patch that allowed it to unlock. Forgive me for sounding stupid here. I have been rooting every samsung phone and tablet I've come across going back to the s2 (roughly 7 devices). Each one of those, whatever the case or obstruction, eventually that root was available. So here is my very first LG device, and I'm so used to it being a given that access was possible...eventually, that I can't figure out why this fairly popular handset is basically a write off. Yes, no need to repeat, because the bootloader is locked. But of all the devices with root access possible, have none of them had locked bootloaders? Is there something structurally harder to get around with LG vs others? Please indulge me a little more detail as to why this is so unlikely. Thanks in advance
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Yes, if LG wanted to, they could set up a system for you to unlock your bootloader, no update required, it's all done via their website.
You pop in your IMEI, and it's supposed to spit out your bootloader unlock code. This has only been done in a few countries.
There is going to be little development on this device though because it is NOT popular at all. Too expensive at launch, and price only came down when the S8 came out. Since it only has the 821, the type of enthusiast that would work on that type of unlock didn't even bother.
Even LG seems to have abandoned it already.

OEM Unlock Option
There is an OEM unlock option in the H873
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httxx://imgur.com/a/tUTkl <- Screenshot from my phone.

OEM unlock
Now that my Fido lg g6 has been updated to Oreo there is oem unlock in dev options . What does that mean for me ? Does that mean that there is a chance for TWRP ? Could this lead to custom ROM ? If I swipe to OEM unlock now what would happen to my phone ?
If you can explain these to me I would very much appreciate it .?

Rpx666 said:
There is an OEM unlock option in the H873
httxx://imgur.com/a/tUTkl <- Screenshot from my phone.
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Hello what is your thème please ?
Thanks in advance

sigahotcore said:
Now that my Fido lg g6 has been updated to Oreo there is oem unlock in dev options . What does that mean for me ? Does that mean that there is a chance for TWRP ? Could this lead to custom ROM ? If I swipe to OEM unlock now what would happen to my phone ?
If you can explain these to me I would very much appreciate it .?
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It means nothing. We have had the option since Nougat. We are still not supported by official bootloader unlock.

Thanks

moxon04 said:
I also have the Canadian variant and tbh I feel that (for me at least) rooting is not necessary.
Don't get me wrong, every other android phones that I owned were rooted and I loved it!
But with the G6, the stock ROM is not bad at all! The two main things I was "afraid" of at first were bloatware and ads (missing adaway) but you can debloat with the ADB method and I'm using blokada for blocking ads and I must say I'm very happy with this phone!
Other thing is, root means no android pay and that's something I'm planning to try very soon!
So no root is not as bad as I thought at first!
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Can you please explain or direct me to info on how to debloat using adb in LG G6? I have a LG G6 from Fido.

Yes . That would be nice to know , how to debloat using ADB
Also , how would I go about making UI as close as possible to stock Android ?

Found this on another xda thread (credit to AM Radio)
1. get latest LG Universal Mobile Drivers (currently v4.2.0)
http://www.lg.com/us/support/software-firmware-drivers
- click on "LG Mobile Drivers" and click on "Windows"
- right-click, run/install as Admin
2. grab latest ADB binary, link provided on XDA
https://www.xda-developers.com/googl...ary-downloads/
- extract the "platform-tools" folder
3. install Package Name Viewer 2.0 from the Playstore
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...om.csdroid.pkg
- probably lots of apps that do the same thing, but i grabbed this one first. allows you to inspect all User and System apps on your phone, and select the ones you want into a list, and then copy that list to Keep or a text file or whatever
4. turn on USB debugging on your G6
- go to Settings > About Phone > tap Build Number until you're a developer
- go up a menu level, click on Developer Options (which should now be just above Above Phone)
- find "USB debugging' and turn it on
5. get hooked up:
- connect your G6 to your PC via USB
- on G6, change the mode to "File transfer"
- back on Windows, open the "platform-tools" folder, shift+right-click somewhere in the folder, select "Open command window here"
- type command (without quotes): "adb devices"
- in the command window, you will see confirmation that the daemon is started, and the name of your device
- if you get a dialogue box on the G6 re: USB debugging, just click "ok"
- type command (without quotes): "adb shell"
- in the command window, you will now see the "lucye:/ $" prompt
6. time to get cooking
- at the prompt, type (without quotes):
"pm uninstall -k --user 0 [PackageNameOfTheAppYouWannaRemove]"
- example:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.lge.bnr
- hit Enter, and kaboom: LG Mobile Switch is gone.
- repeat as necessary, referencing that handy list you prepared in Step 3
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sigahotcore said:
Yes . That would be nice to know , how to debloat using ADB
Also , how would I go about making UI as close as possible to stock Android ?
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For stock android look and feel, I would suggest a custom launcher... I have used Nova in the past but you can search for others to get the best stock android experience.

Thanks friend . That is excellent guide . Much appreciated.?

H873 unlock bootloader need help
Hi guys,I bought a LS993 carrier unlocked with flashed firmware of H873 and I read on the internet that the bootloader cant be unlocked.I tried to go in ADB before but I didnt get a positive result but with the latest update I tried again and this time it was successful.Maybe someone of you people will tell me what to do to unlock the bootloader because I have access to ADB reboot bootloader command and so on.I really want a custom rom for our device and can help with everything I can.If someone can help maybe our device will be unlocked and possible to root.Reply in this thread or by PM.

Probably we should all know about rooting and is not same as it was before?

My phone was rooted when I bought and I expected to get to get back to the stock room. I don't care about warranty but I care about able to use apps on my phone. Probably your people don't what risks you take when you buy the phone from shops. The main problem I have with phone what I can't use any payment service (Samsung Pay, Google Pay or Barclay), next I can't use Samsung password management and even I can't use oyster TFL app because my phone is rooted. I tried all stock firmware version no one is working. The game is changing with the rooting phone. One thing that I don't like about Android is software updated. I don't blame shop guy who sold the phone with the latest update but it had to root the phone in order to update to the latest. Android is not same as was before it is changing without letting consumers know that in future you will have trouble using your phone. Below where chat transcript with Samsung support team.
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Robertas Suminskas
16:51:22 I need to unroot phone because Samsung pay and password management app it says the phone is rooted
Calm
16:51:22 Welcome to Samsung Support. Please allow me a moment to read through your enquiry.
16:51:57 Hi, Robertas! My name is Calm from Mobiles Live Chat Support. How are you doing today?
Robertas Suminskas
16:52:17 fine
Calm
16:52:25 I understand that you are getting error message that your phone is rooted. No worries, let us double check that.
16:52:31 That's great, Robertas! I hope I can make it even better.
16:52:45 May I know where and when did you purchase your phone, Robertas?
Robertas Suminskas
16:53:11 I am happy to do unroot but I need assistance how to do it
16:53:45 I bought from shop
16:54:03 not Samsung official shop
Calm
16:55:28 I see. I hate to be the bearer of this news, once the phone is rooted, I am afraid that we won't be able to un root it. As we don't recommend that to our phones as that can cause serious damage on the phone. We will now double check if the phone has really been rooted. Rooting a phone can cause serious damage to the phone as it will completely remove the original software of the device, therefore, possibly changing the functionalities of the phone. Also, rooting the phone voids the warranty. To check, please follow these steps:
16:55:36 1. Power off the device completely. 2. Press and hold the volume down button, power button, and home button simultaneously until you see the screen turn blue. 3. Once the screen turns blue, please press the Volume Up Button. 4. Could you please tell me what you can see next to Product Name, Current Binary, System Status, and Knox Warranty Void?
Robertas Suminskas
17:00:02 Product Name: SM-G935F Current Binary: Samsung Official System Status: Official FAP lock: Off Warranty void: (0x030c) AP SWREV: B:2 K:0 S:1
Calm
17:04:15 I see. Thanks for that information. We have confirmed that the phone is rooted, Robertas. It would be best to get in touch with the retailer where you purchased the phone. As rooting the phone will void the warranty.
Robertas Suminskas
17:04:41 Product Name: SM-G935F / Current Binary: Samsung / Official System Status: Official / FAP lock: Off/ Warranty void: (0x030c) / AP SWREV: B:2 K:0 S:1
17:06:08 I don't have time to chase retailers or whatever and I don't care about the warranty. What I want you to help me to unroot the phone.
Calm
17:06:36 I am afraid that once the phone has been rooted, it cannot be undone, Robertas.
Robertas Suminskas
17:07:57 This something new. Do all customers know about this? Or you just implement this system from galaxy s7?
17:09:33 It needs to be published this officially because I am not going to buy anymore Samsung phone. Is to risky
17:09:53 I am afraid
Calm
17:11:14 Rooting a phone means installing a customise operating system on the phone which is a third party software. Just to give you an idea, we do not tolerate rooting phones and we don't sell rooted phones as well. As you have mentioned, you have not purchased a phone from an official Samsung Store, I am afraid that the retailer that you bought the phone from customised or modified the phones that they are selling.
Robertas Suminskas
17:13:31 there is firmware or software in all devices (laptops, TV, phone and so on). Where is way yo recover if software got the issue. So please don't tell me that is not possible to do this as long is a OS issue
Calm
17:15:05 I do understand that you would like the phone to be un rooted. However, as much as I would like to help you do that, once the phone has been rooted it cannot be undone. Also, if in case you bring the phone to one of our Support Centres, the Engineers would just refuse to fix the phone as it is been rooted. Rooting a phone is not software issue, Robertas. Rooting a phone is not done by Samsung. Like I have mentioned, we don't recommend that.
17:16:20 Rooting a phone can cause serious damage to the phone as it will completely remove the original software of the device, therefore, possibly changing the functionalities of the phone.
Robertas Suminskas
17:16:20 So it means I can't use all Samsung service. Why you don't officially this?
Calm
17:17:02 Like I have mentioned, we are not the one who installed the custom OS. It is done probably the store where you purchase the phone from.
Robertas Suminskas
17:17:08 People don't know this and you implement starting from Galaxy S7
Calm
17:17:48 All devices can be rooted. It is up to the customer if they would install a custom OS. We do not tolerate that, Robertas
Robertas Suminskas
17:18:24 But it you didn't say that services will be limited
Calm
17:18:41 Yes, that is why we don't recommend rooting a phone.
Robertas Suminskas
17:19:51 I know this now from your words but not in the paper and Samsung warranty. This original stock firmware
17:21:38 you locked some app to the phone and I didn't see in any papers
Calm
17:24:21 Just to give you a heads up, we are not the one who roots the phone as we don't recommend that. If you'd like, I can send you a proof on your email on how to check if the phone has been rooted.
17:24:27 May I know your email address?
Robertas Suminskas
17:24:59 [email protected]
17:26:52 This lack information from Samsung and I gonna look way to publish this so people be aware what they are buying and what risks they take.
17:27:14 I understand is hardware is modified but is only software
Calm
17:27:16 Also, may I know from what retailer did you purchase your phone?
Robertas Suminskas
17:27:54 I don't remember name it was 1.5 year ago
17:30:05 Better apple phone to buy than Samsung because peple can do jailbreak or un-jailbreak
Calm
17:30:13 Not all of Samsung phones are rooted, Robertas. We are not the one who modified the operating system of your phone. The reason why it is rooted because it was been modified by someone. And also, just to take in to consideration, you have purchased a phone to a unauthorised third party retailer.
Robertas Suminskas
17:30:45 but if I want to install stock firmware so why you say that phone is modified?
Calm
17:35:01 We perform a troubleshooting step earlier which is the Root Checker. Based on the information that you have given me, your phone has been modified.
Robertas Suminskas
17:35:07 where plenty sources on the internet how to unroot the phone? are they not real?
Calm
17:35:27 The device IS rooted if: Product name does not match the device. Current Binary does not say official or id there are counts in brackets. System Status does not say official. Knox Warranty Void (S4 and above) does not say 0x0.
17:36:27 Based on the information you have given the Knox Warranty Void is (0x030c). It should be 0x0.
17:36:43 We don't recommend that, Robertas.
Robertas Suminskas
17:38:28 Explain to me why Samsung service like Samsung Pay and Password? How do they work check phone?
17:38:54 what else is limited that I don't know?
Calm
17:39:00 Because once the software has been modified, it will change the functionalities of the phone. As the original software has already been removed.
Robertas Suminskas
17:39:42 I want get back original software. Where I can get this?
Calm
17:42:27 Once the phone has been rooted, it cannot be undone, Robertas. I am sorry about that. I highly suggest to get in touch with the retailer where you bought the phone. After this chat session you will have an option to save this chat transcript. You may present this as a proof that your phone has been modified. They might consider giving you a refund.
17:44:28 Aside from this, is there anything else that I can help you with whilst you still have me on the line?
Robertas Suminskas
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Remember one thing with every Android update they gonna limit and limit more services on the rooted phone and they are making things to be undone.
I don't see the point to buy android phones from shops and at all. I remember I had phone Galaxy S2, S5 and I was rooted my self just to try and to learn. But I didn't have the problem to unroot. I don't care about warranty if is NOT VALID after that. But what I care is about getting full android experience. On rooted phone full Android experience is gone and this information is not published officially.
I believe most people don't about this and they thought that only warranty you lose.

Use superman rom with superstock kernel some people have reported it as the only one working with Samsung pay with Knox security voided.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/samsung-pay-knox-warranty-void-t3549449

pingufanpoy said:
Use superman rom with superstock kernel some people have reported it as the only one working with Samsung pay with Knox security voided.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/samsung-pay-knox-warranty-void-t3549449
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All custom rooms have stability issues where I experienced in past. I don’t really want use custom rooms. Point is what all resources about unroot samsung phone is bull****. They shouldn’t confuse people with lies about unroot and should be deleted from forum.
Thanks,

Robotukas said:
All custom rooms have stability issues where I experienced in past. I don’t really want use custom rooms. Point is what all resources about unroot samsung phone is bull****. They shouldn’t confuse people with lies about unroot and should be deleted from forum.
Thanks,
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I believe, and correct me if i am wrong, you can unroot a phone and flashing via Odin should put the phone back to square 1, however once Knox is tripped there is no going back only custom roms can fake the Knox status..

Use magisk to hide root.
Yes if you did root by system modifications, you will have more problems then if you did systemless root. And samsung pay won't work in stock kernel anyway because it checks knox warranty void..
Sent from my S7 Edge using XDA Labs

Could you not just flash stock firmware and use google pay?

Robotukas said:
All custom rooms have stability issues where I experienced in past. I don’t really want use custom rooms. Point is what all resources about unroot samsung phone is bull****. They shouldn’t confuse people with lies about unroot and should be deleted from forum.
Thanks,
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What the hell are you talking about? For starters, this is an android developer community. XDA was not created just so random people can come here looking to have their problems fixed for them.
Moving on, un-rooting a phone is as easy as it gets. Just download the Stock ROM and install it. Done. Stop spouting your bullcrap about people on XDA lying and just do some freaking research, this information is not hard to find and there are MANY guides and forum posts available here on XDA as well as 10000000+ other places on the internet as to how to return a Samsung phone to stock. You can either use ODIN or Samsung smart switch to do it.
You're the one who purchased a rooted phone, you knew what you were getting into. If you don't want it rooted and don't have the technical ability to un-root it, you should have never purchased it in the first place.

I agree with OP .
Love Spay but hate being restricted just like iphone.
No diff in samsung and apple nowadays

Man it doesn’t work from youtube or xda. Just accept reality. I tried stock rooms, I tried superman and other crap. You can’t realise that they are increasing security to stop people from rooting phones. Funny parts are that more apps stops working on rooted phones. So please take a coffee and accepts reality.

Robotukas said:
Man it doesn’t work from youtube or xda. Just accept reality. I tried stock rooms, I tried superman and other crap. You can’t realise that they are increasing security to stop people from rooting phones. Funny parts are that more apps stops working on rooted phones. So please take a coffee and accepts reality.
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You can unroot without problem, but you CANNOT make knox back to 0x0 after tripping it... knox tripping is the biggest disadvantage of rooting.. as far as rooting goes .. you can root with magisk systemless root that hides your root from apps which don't work on rooted phones.. the only problem are the apps which detect knox status and thats hard to hide and samsung health and spay won't work after knox is tripped.
So you can root with magisk and hide your root easily to use all the apps.. you can also unroot by flashing stock rom back.. but you cannot fix/hide a tripped knox due to which samsung apps won't work.. so the real downside of rooting is the warranty void and samsung apps not working due to tripped knox.. maybe if there are some ways to hide knox status by custom kernels etc.. it would be the best option..
Sent from my S7 Edge using XDA Labs

Thanks for your reply.
Just to let know not only Samsung apps are not working also banking apps, Service Provider apps and Others. Magisk it doesn't work anymore.
Regards,
Robertas

Robotukas said:
Thanks for your reply.
Just to let know not only Samsung apps are not working also banking apps, Service Provider apps and Others. Magisk it doesn't work anymore.
Regards,
Robertas
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Post it on magisk forum then.. its meant to be systemless root that hides the root status.. if its really not working post on their thread for getting support. Majority of users use magisk to pass safety net and hide their root.. don't know if we need some additional xposed module or some software to hide root..
As far as I know.. only samsung apps could check the knox status.. if really other apps are not working with root.. then its a dilemma pls post on magisk forum and keep us updated
Sent from my S7 Edge using XDA Labs

shah22 said:
Post it on magisk forum then.. its meant to be systemless root that hides the root status.. if its really not working post on their thread for getting support. Majority of users use magisk to pass safety net and hide their root.. don't know if we need some additional xposed module or some software to hide root..
As far as I know.. only samsung apps could check the knox status.. if really other apps are not working with root.. then its a dilemma pls post on magisk forum and keep us updated
Sent from my S7 Edge using XDA Labs
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Thanks, a lot for the advice. I just gonna buy iPhone. Where no waiting time for latest updates, where is no carrier firmware and there is no radio. And Apple keeps pushing updates for phones even if 4 years older.
Samsung for the US have Snapdragon and for the EU only give Enyxios. I liked snapdragon and because I live in the UK now I must think how to get snapdragon. Strange fingerprint position and crashes. And support team is not good at all. Everything comes years later to Android than to iOS. I don't see the point to root phones because it works even worst and you get limited service and app choice. And why as the user I don't have the choice to use native Android OS (like original Android OS without modification) on phones? Why it comes only with preinstalled Samsung OS?
Thanks a lot,
Good luck

Root, Recovery & Roms, Guide & Info

Hello all,
This post will contain most information regarding Root Recovery & Custom Roms for the Samsung Galaxy s10 5G.
Disclaimers:
1 - This WILL TRIP KNOX 99.9% of the time. Once knox is tripped it cannot be untripped. Once knox is trio certain apps and features such as Secure Folder, Work Profile, Samsung Pay and more will either; NOT WORK without a workaround or WILL NEVER WORK AGAIN.
2 - Once knox is tripped YOU WILL MORE THEN LIKELY LOSE WARRANTY ON YOUT DEVICE. Some countries require companies to have limited warranty on devices despite software status. Google is your friend.
3 - I and any other developer ISN'T RESPONSIBLE with any bricks or mishaps due to user error. If you find a bug report it to the developer. Nor I or Developer offer 100% Guarantee that your process will be smooth and while most software including magisk, TWRP and Custom Roms are developers and tested, unknown bugs can appear. You have been warned.
4 - This guide is for EXYNOS VARIENT MODELS ONLY. Most snapdragon variants contain locked bootloaders which currently doesn't allow custom firmware including root to work. Some snapdragon models do have an unlocked bootloaders but no method of achieving root, recovery or a custom Rom has been disclosed. This warning will be removed if a safe method appears.
Root (Magisk):
Achieving root is exactly the same process as achieving root for the Samsung Galaxy S10/+/e.
So follow johntopwu's guide CAREFULLY.
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html#samsung-system-as-root
Recovery (TWRP):
Recoveries are build for each device separately and are not universal amount most devices. While a recovery for one device may work on another, it is not recommended as unforseen bugs can occur and you can softbrick your device by using a recovery built for another device. Currently TWRP is unmaintained, meaning no one officially updates it. Currently Ianmacd unofficially updates it if and when he has spare time, Don't annoy him over it. The Samsung Galaxy S10 5G kernel releases later then the Samsung Galaxy S10/+/e, meaning the S10/+/e will be updated the latest version before the S10 5G. This is out of any developers hands as we rely on Samung Releasing the kernel source in order to update TWRP.
Same rules apply, Follow CAREFULLY and select the correct TWRP for your device. Read and make sure you understand everything before proceeding.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ecovery-twrp-3-3-0-galaxy-s10-exynos-t3924856
Custom Roms:
This section will be updated soon. Please stay tuned.
Common Questions & Answers:
This section will be updated when common or important questions are asked.

Thanks for the info. All this will work work Sprint version also??

Lurien said:
Thanks for the info. All this will work work Sprint version also??
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Root will work for any exynos varient of S10 5G. My personal model is SM-G977B, but root should work as long as your device is exynos and NOT SNAPDRAGON 855. As for recovery, Other device models such as SM-G977N (I believe it is) should work, but I have no evidence stating it does or doesn't work so proceed with caution.

MarshiMello said:
Root will work for any exynos varient of S10 5G. My personal model is SM-G977B, but root should work as long as your device is exynos and NOT SNAPDRAGON 855. As for recovery, Other device models such as SM-G977N (I believe it is) should work, but I have no evidence stating it does or doesn't work so proceed with caution.
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Alright thanks!

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Root also works for the sprint snapdragon chip (sm-g977p)

Nerdness said:
Root also works for the sprint snapdragon chip (sm-g977p)
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Hi , It seems that you have attained root on the Sprint Snapdragon phone. It is great that you have accomplished this. MarshiMello's given steps are for Exynos phones. Can you please provide more details on how you have achieved root on the Sprint (Snapdragon) phone. Is there a rooted firmware available for the Sprint phone? Could you please provide links to the rooted firmware ?
Thank you !

Hi @MarshiMello ,
I was wondering if a rooted firmware is now available for the Sprint Samsung S10 5G phone with the Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset ? May I please know if there is any work underway to root this phone, and if yes may I know by when we can be expecting an update in this regards ? I really need to root the phone for my work, and would really appreciate any assistance ! Thank you !
Also it is great to see that you managed to root the Exynos version of the S10 5G phones !

Nerdness said:
Root also works for the sprint snapdragon chip (sm-g977p)
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How did you do this?!?! U.S. snapdragon models are supposed to be locked down hardcore.

StoneyJSG said:
How did you do this?!?! U.S. snapdragon models are supposed to be locked down hardcore.
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Bootloader is unlocked on certain snapdragon models, So root is theoretically possible. I haven't had experience with these models and cannot provide support on them. But if I do find a willing tester I can see if the default method for exynos works for snapdragon and will update the guide based on these findings.

Oh okay cool, thanks. Hopefully root can be achieved on my phone one day. It was so much easier back in the jelly bean and kit kat days.

MarshiMello said:
Bootloader is unlocked on certain snapdragon models, So root is theoretically possible. I haven't had experience with these models and cannot provide support on them. But if I do find a willing tester I can see if the default method for exynos works for snapdragon and will update the guide based on these findings.
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Can confirm, exynos method works for the 977P.

That is really good to hear @Nerdness !

MarshiMello said:
Bootloader is unlocked on certain snapdragon models, So root is theoretically possible. I haven't had experience with these models and cannot provide support on them. But if I do find a willing tester I can see if the default method for exynos works for snapdragon and will update the guide based on these findings.
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I'm willing to test firmwares on my Sprint S10 5G? I just wanna get rid of the sprint apps and boot screen if possible. Just let me know

Root
It was a challenge but I have successfully rooted the SAMSUNG GALAXY S10 5G SPRINT SM-G977P.
It was done by Magisk...

play1969er said:
It was a challenge but I have successfully rooted the SAMSUNG GALAXY S10 5G SPRINT SM-G977P.
It was done by Magisk...
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thats a very helpful guide with instructions!

play1969er said:
It was a challenge but I have successfully rooted the SAMSUNG GALAXY S10 5G SPRINT SM-G977P.
It was done by Magisk...
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Do you have a custom recovery installed as well?

gastondefer said:
Do you have a custom recovery installed as well?
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If anyone has a twrp build they want to test I'm willing to try it.

S10 5G ATT - anyone got Android 10 update?
Has anyone with S10 5G ATT gotten the Android 10 update yet?

Nerdness said:
If anyone has a twrp build they want to test I'm willing to try it.
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mentalmuso has a twrp that works great for g977p on his tgram group

elliwigy said:
mentalmuso has a twrp that works great for g977p on his tgram group
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Thanks for the heads up. Flashed and working well.