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NO-CONTRACT SERVICE PROVIDERS
In the past 3 weeks I spent MANY hours doing research and on phone calls so I learned a great deal
about the choices we have for unlocked Xperia Z2 smartphone service providers.
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RED POCKET
I made a mistake choosing Red Pocket. First, I was not aware they had 2 different GSM SIm cards so I received GSMA. Then I discovered they have better deals for GSMT. They advised me to go to Fry's Electronics to purchase GSMT card. Then I got wrong SIM card AGAIN because Red Pocket [RP]doesn't put GSMA or GSMT on their packaging! Ordered GSMT card on eBay for $1 and then phoned Red Pocket to make the switch. IMPOSSIBLE to get anyone on the phone (after 42 minutes on hold, I hung up). Sent them an email. No reply after 6 DAYS. RP service only got worse. Average time to reach a human by phone was over 20 minutes. They put me on hold and hung up on me 3 times. This is when i decided it was time to find a new service provider.
ULTRA MOBILE
Did more research and discovered ULTRA which has better rates and extras like being able to phone up to 45 county land lines for free (and some cellular too). I made the switch as soon as SIM card arrived. ULTRA uses Tmobile service which I prefer over AT&T since prior experiences taught me Tmo has better cell coverage in my area. Then I ran into more problems caused by Red Pocket. Needed my RP account # and password. After 24 hours, my number had not ported from RP to ULTRA. Ultra told me that Red Pocket was failing to release it. FINALLY, after 27 hours, I was activated on ULTRA. Service has been excellent and I'm getting 4G. My only gripe with Ultra is that they fail to provide ANY instructions for how to setup voicemail. Logic told me that since they piggyback off Tmo, Tmobile voicemail instructions would work, and they do.
SIMPLE, NET 10, TMOBILE, AT&T. I looked at all their GSM plans and BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) no-contract rates before settling on the 2 above. If you have one of these service providers and you're satisfied, I'm happy for you.
Glenn
P.S. If the information above helps you, click THANKS button (no donations).

Testing now.
Hope it works,
It takes for ever to download but I am looking forward to this.
Cant stand not having root.

Please do not forget, that by unlocking the bootloader and without backup of TA partition you loose DRM keys forever. Some of the more advanced Xperia features will stop working (at least x-reality and low noise high ISO mode in camera). I would advise to downgrade, root and then flash pre-rooted .167 firmware with locked bootloader.

I got this to work !
Thank you !!!!
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_mysiak_ said:
Please do not forget, that by unlocking the bootloader and without backup of TA partition you loose DRM keys forever. Some of the more advanced Xperia features will stop working (at least x-reality and low noise high ISO mode in camera). I would advise to downgrade, root and then flash pre-rooted .167 firmware with locked bootloader.
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I unlocked my boot loader using the sony website (Have an old TA partition backup just in case).
Everything seems to work just great! I have the x-reality working and the new Super-Vivid mode also I see no camera limitations.
How can I check if my TA partition is still present ?
Now its time for titanium backaup to do its magic.

@weltwon
You realize this goes against people who cant unlock their bootloaders and also those who want to restore their warrenty later on
We root to keep out bootloaders locked to ensure the safe backup of our TA partitions.
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16k said:
I got this to work !
Thank you !!!!
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I unlocked my boot loader using the sony website (Have an old TA partition backup just in case).
Everything seems to work just great! I have the x-reality working and the new Super-Vivid mode also I see no camera limitations.
How can I check if my TA partition is still present ?
Now its time for titanium backaup to do its magic.
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TA Is wiped with bootloader unlocking
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_mysiak_ said:
Please do not forget, that by unlocking the bootloader and without backup of TA partition you loose DRM keys forever. Some of the more advanced Xperia features will stop working (at least x-reality and low noise high ISO mode in camera). I would advise to downgrade, root and then flash pre-rooted .167 firmware with locked bootloader.
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Only X-Reality is lost
The rest is a myth

Envious_Data said:
Only X-Reality is lost
The rest is a myth
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I am sorry, but I do not agree with your statement. I bought a phone with unlocked bootloader by a previous owner and I was a bit surprised by red-green noise in the low light/night photos. Many pictures taken by other Z2 phones didn't have noise at all and were in higher quality. After following some steps mentioned in other topic not only x-reality was back, but also noise disappeared from the freshly taken photos. I have seen posts of Z2 owners with the same experience. But maybe you are lucky or you don't take photos in such conditions

_mysiak_ said:
I am sorry, but I do not agree with your statement. I bought a phone with unlocked bootloader by a previous owner and I was a bit surprised by red-green noise in the low light/night photos. Many pictures taken by other Z2 phones didn't have noise at all and were in higher quality. After following some steps mentioned in other topic not only x-reality was back, but also noise disappeared from the freshly taken photos. I have seen posts of Z2 owners with the same experience. But maybe you are lucky or you don't take photos in such conditions
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X-Reality worked only on older firmwares, did your device come with a older firmware
Ive tested alot with multiple devices and many different firmwares
69 was the only firmware where X-Reality worked with an Unlocked bootloader
Nothing else is lost at all from Bootloader unlocking

Envious_Data said:
X-Reality worked only on older firmwares, did your device come with a older firmware
Ive tested alot with multiple devices and many different firmwares
69 was the only firmware where X-Reality worked with an Unlocked bootloader
Nothing else is lost at all from Bootloader unlocking
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Well, device came with non-working X-Reality and awful noise in night photos. I almost immediately flashed the .167 FW. Only later I realized that my bootloader had been unlocked by previous owner. When I followed these steps, X-Reality is working again and photos are clear. This is mine experience with my phone, your might of course differ. But I am 100% sure that not only X-Reality, but also Camera was impacted by removal of DRM keys.I remember that some people complained that music download was lost as well, but I can't confirm as I did not test it before the procedure (at the moment it's working fine).

In fact, I found comparison photos which I took before flashing the fix and after. You can't deny the difference in noise

I do realize but YOLO ! I question things and test things because I am not a zombie.

To be honest I completely missed the point of this topic - what is the advantage of not doing firmware downgrade if you have to unlock bootloader which will wipe everything on the phone and removes some nice features? More experienced users are fully aware of this method which is available out there for years. And advise this to inexperienced ones..? Don't believe that it's a good move

The point: Faster & Easier ROOT
_mysiak_ said:
To be honest I completely missed the point of this topic - what is the advantage of not doing firmware downgrade if you have to unlock bootloader which will wipe everything on the phone and removes some nice features? More experienced users are fully aware of this method which is available out there for years. And advise this to inexperienced ones..? Don't believe that it's a good move
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From all my experiences, downgrading firmware caused me MORE problems then staying with the same firmware, which my method allows.
As far as wiping everything and losing "nice features" you are simply WRONG.
The ONLY feature I've lost is X-Reality which I may have never used anyway.
As far as wiping everything, Play Store has many apps for backing up data and everything else on your phone.
I chose my ROOT methods because I found them to be FASTER & EASIER than the downgrading and custom building processes.
Anyone reading this is free to agree, disagree or choose your own methods.
The POINT of this topic is to offer a FASTER & EASIER way to ROOT for an Xperia Z2 running 23.0.1.A.0.167 firmware.
Glenn

Please explain to my phone that it should have been fully working (x-reality, bionz) even with unlocked bootloader as it clearly wasn't. I will not argue with you, I was forced to restore functionality as previous owner unlocked bootloader without doing backup of TA partition and more users might do this following your advice. It is completely ok that you do not miss x-reality or that you are ok with high noise in photos, but many users are not satisfied with this (myself included). Once they follow your fast and easy way of root, they will spend more time to restore the lost functionality. But to each his own I guess..
Btw. did you even bother checking photos I posted? How can you say that ONLY x-reality was disabled by DRM keys removal?

Not sure if it's true or not, but someone posted that the PS4 remote play also doesn't work with unlocked bootloader.

Yes, it seems that playstation stuff is lost as well.
The proper way is:
1.downgrade (flashtool) to anything older than .167 without unlocking the bootloader
2.use towelroot and install recovery
3.backup TA partition (in case you plan to unlock bootloader)
4.flash pre-rooted .167 via CWM recovery
5.flash in flashtool everything in .167 ftf file except system partition
5.5 optional - clear data(if you're worried about corrupted data by downgrade)
6.enjoy rooted phone with ALL functions and full warranty
It takes around 20 minutes once you have necessary files downloaded. You are free to unlock bootloader if you wish (no point if on stock rom) as you can restore TA partition anytime.

_mysiak_ said:
To be honest I completely missed the point of this topic - what is the advantage of not doing firmware downgrade if you have to unlock bootloader which will wipe everything on the phone and removes some nice features? More experienced users are fully aware of this method which is available out there for years. And advise this to inexperienced ones..? Don't believe that it's a good move
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Not only expert users...everyone knows for this method.
It's few years old system...nothing new...
It's quite simple...if you can unlock or want to unlock bootloader you can root every fw, even 5.0 (tested on N7 2012).
As long as you can flash custom kernel you can root your device, that's something brids already know...

Don't ever try this method, TA needs to be backed up, if you don't care about any of those features then go ahead unlock your device.
Otherwise please we have a way to root the device, plus I have downgraded my phone multiple times., I never came across any of these problems. If you're really unlucky and rare cases like 0.1% will have the problems when downgrading. So far Sony phones are safe and okay to downgrade. I've done it multiple times.

Newbies
funky0308 said:
Not only expert users...everyone knows for this method.
It's few years old system...nothing new...
It's quite simple...if you can unlock or want to unlock bootloader you can root every fw, even 5.0 (tested on N7 2012).
As long as you can flash custom kernel you can root your device, that's something brids already know...
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You know it, I know it, BRIDS may know it, a zillion other Droid users may know it but lots of NEWBIES don't know it.
Unfortunately, lots of newbies hear "ROOT ROOT ROOT" and want to get there as fast as possible as if there's a pot of gold waiting for them!
May not be a pot of gold but Wireless Tether for Root Users, being able to run Quick Boot app and quickly go to CWM so I can make a full nandroid backup and a list of other apps is why I sought and found the fastest & easiest way to achieve root while on 23.0.1.A.0.167 firmware.
Yes, I want BEST possible images with the 20 megapixel camera in my Z2,
so I will be working on easiest way to restore X-reality OR I will find a BETTER camera app!
Glenn

weltwon said:
Yes, I want BEST possible images with the 20 megapixel camera in my Z2,
so I will be working on easiest way to restore X-reality OR I will find a BETTER camera app!
Glenn
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Good luck with unlocked boodloader, no backup of TA and not willing to do the FW downgrade So you basically saved 5 minutes for rooting and now going to spend few hours to restore what you f***d up (and will never really acomplish) and encouraging newbies to do the same.. Great idea

_mysiak_ said:
In fact, I found comparison photos which I took before flashing the fix and after. You can't deny the difference in noise
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For comparison photos to be of use they need to be identical these aren't, second photo is zoomed in?

[PSA] **WARNING** DO NOT TRY TO DOWNGRADE YOUR G4 BOOTSTACK (in USA at least)

This was not written anywhere specifically on the LG G4 forums that I could find. But every flash-addict needs to be warned. It is something you want to know before you continue tinkering.
Several users (myself included) have made the unfortunate mistake of attempting to downgrade their bootstack (for various reasons) to a former version.
DO NOT DO THIS (at least for the USA T-Mobile H811 version, and possibly other USA versions, per @autoprime)! It will result in a hard brick! Specifically, this results in the "Qualcomm QDLoader HS-USB port ( 9008 )" error. Connecting your phone to a PC will pop up with this active connection, but nothing else. There is no download mode. There is no publicly available fix as of yet.
This WILL happen both through KDZ restore as well as flashing bootstack .zips.
Yes, an official KDZ image can BRICK your USA phone, if you try to rollback.
This is in stark contrast to other manufacturers (i.e. Samsung), where the attempt to flash an older bootloader/modem/radio will simply fail, but your phone is not bricked.
I have conferred with @autoprime, who confirmed that with each OTA firmware release (on T-Mobile it was 10H, and now 10N), the version # increments. Flashing a lower version # will result in brick.
I have searched far and wide for a DIY fix. Without the proper firmwares in the right format, as well as the right flashing software, your phone is done and must be sent in for LG repair.
To check what antiroll-back version you are on, input this sequence in the dialer (T-Mobile and ATT) and scroll down:
*#*#244773825625#*#*
Flashing a bootstack version less than this # (through KDZ or zip) will brick the phone. You are free to flash anything equal or higher than the version listed.
EDIT:
The 20i MM update for the H811 is v2 antirollback. The 10n bootstack is also v2. So flashing between the 2 (returning from MM to Lollipop) should not hard brick the phone.
EDIT 2:
The 20o MM update is v3 antirollback. Once you go 20o, you cannot go back.
For your flashing needs, I suggest you use LGUP and NOT LGFLASH, as LGFLASH will ignore the rollback flag and brick your phone without remorse!

Twitter announcement re: above from @autoprime
https://twitter.com/utoprime/status/641747333470912512

waylo said:
Twitter announcement re: above from @autoprime
https://twitter.com/utoprime/status/641747333470912512
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This is probable because of the huge security flaw in older versions...they probably dont want anyone returning to a vulnerable state...stagefright was a nasty flaw and i think moving forward we will be able to roll back to what we have now

so bad... but if my firmware version and the KDZ are the same? ex. H81510c with H81510c.kdz...... this still works???

Sj12345 said:
so bad... but if my firmware version and the KDZ are the same? ex. H81510c with H81510c.kdz...... this still works???
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Correct, shouldn't be a problem if they are the same revision.

thanks for the thread @waylo
I have checked the most recent international builds and all are still on "v0". Tho that could always change in the future... but as of today... "v0"
The original out of box Tmo h811 version was "v0"... after the first forced OTA it became "v1"... as of 10N it is now "v2".
I do not have access to the latest AT&T, Sprint, US Cellular or Verizon bootstacks (seems there are no new KDZ's for them and no one has dumped the files) so I cannot confirm if AT&T, Sprint, US Cellular or Verizon's latest OTAs also move it up to "v2" or if still on "v1".
Actually.. I'm not even sure if Sprint, US Cellular or Verizon got a 2nd OTA yet.. but I know AT&T has "10i". If any 10i users who are rooted could dump the bootstack for me and send it over I can confirm.
Latest I know of for Sprint is ZV5.. thats "v1". US Cellular.. not sure.. but 10C was "v1". Verizon... again.. not sure what latest is.. but 11A is "v1".
*edit*
just checked US991 10D... still "v1".

autoprime said:
thanks for the thread @waylo
I have checked the most recent international builds and all are still on "v0". Tho that could always change in the future... but as of today... "v0"
The original out of box Tmo h811 version was "v0"... after the first forced OTA it became "v1"... as of 10N it is now "v2".
I do not have access to the latest AT&T, Sprint, US Cellular or Verizon bootstacks (seems there are no new KDZ's for them and no one has dumped the files) so I cannot confirm if AT&T, Sprint, US Cellular or Verizon's latest OTAs also move it up to "v2" or if still on "v1".
Actually.. I'm not even sure if Sprint, US Cellular or Verizon got a 2nd OTA yet.. but I know AT&T has "10i". If any 10i users who are rooted could dump the bootstack for me and send it over I can confirm.
Latest I know of for Sprint is ZV5.. thats "v1". US Cellular.. not sure.. but 10C was "v1". Verizon... again.. not sure what latest is.. but 11A is "v1".
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can you share the method to know if the bootstacks change with each ota?
I am pretty sure ATT has anti rollback on!
or give me the code for dump the bootstack

jamesd1085 said:
This is probable because of the huge security flaw in older versions...they probably dont want anyone returning to a vulnerable state...stagefright was a nasty flaw and i think moving forward we will be able to roll back to what we have now
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That's a nice thought, but it will not be borne out until the next OTA comes out and we check the version. I wouldn't recommend you act on this supposition unless you have the time for a repair and a backup phone.

waylo said:
That's a nice thought, but it will not be borne out until the next OTA comes out and we check the version. I wouldn't recommend you act on this supposition unless you have the time for a repair and a backup phone.
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It was just a shot in the dark...but i always read and am very careful what i flash...but on the other hand my best friend has a good bit of experience with Android repair and a very pricey computer and a rather nice jtag device...I'm just hoping lg isn't turning the way of Samsung and trying to block out development as it will be the reason if i ever leave lg devices...locking out development is a boner killer and i wont think twice but to move to more open oems...lol

I have a Sprint variant and we have only had one OTA as of right now.
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk

autoprime said:
thanks for the thread @waylo
I have checked the most recent international builds and all are still on "v0". Tho that could always change in the future... but as of today... "v0"
The original out of box Tmo h811 version was "v0"... after the first forced OTA it became "v1"... as of 10N it is now "v2".
I do not have access to the latest AT&T, Sprint, US Cellular or Verizon bootstacks (seems there are no new KDZ's for them and no one has dumped the files) so I cannot confirm if AT&T, Sprint, US Cellular or Verizon's latest OTAs also move it up to "v2" or if still on "v1".
Actually.. I'm not even sure if Sprint, US Cellular or Verizon got a 2nd OTA yet.. but I know AT&T has "10i". If any 10i users who are rooted could dump the bootstack for me and send it over I can confirm.
Latest I know of for Sprint is ZV5.. thats "v1". US Cellular.. not sure.. but 10C was "v1". Verizon... again.. not sure what latest is.. but 11A is "v1".
*edit*
just checked US991 10D... still "v1".
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Does this also apply to TOT files? Say we upgrade to ZV6 when it comes out. Can we use a TOT file to flash to ZV5?

tabp0le said:
Does this also apply to TOT files? Say we upgrade to ZV6 when it comes out. Can we use a TOT file to flash to ZV5?
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Anything that will attempt to rewrite the bootstack will cause this. So if the TOT file includes recovery + bootstack + system (I'm guessing it does if it behaves like a KDZ), it will have the same implications.

Well, for the G2 & G3, we had a fairly easy way to still fix the 9008 mode, i had even fixed my G2 that had those gazillion partitions show up in Linux (after shorting the chip pins). Maybe something like this can be done for the G4, especially if we output all of the G4's partitions from a working variant and then DD them back to the proper partitions.
For example this was for the G3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/unbrick-lg-g3-qhsusbbulk-qualcomm-9008-t3072091

Agimax said:
Well, for the G2 & G3, we had a fairly easy way to still fix the 9008 mode, i had even fixed my G2 that had those gazillion partitions show up in Linux (after shorting the chip pins). Maybe something like this can be done for the G4, especially if we output all of the G4's partitions from a working variant and then DD them back to the proper partitions.
For example this was for the G3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/unbrick-lg-g3-qhsusbbulk-qualcomm-9008-t3072091
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I looked through all of that earlier, and those fixes sure made the G2 + G3 near-bulletproof recoverable phones. I'm sure a fix for the G4 would be similar as it's the same USB connection that's kept alive despite bricking.
Specifically for the G3 example, right now we're missing ALL required parts:
1. No TOT files available (actually just looking, Sprint is the only one). Can't convert KDZ to TOT as far as I could find.
2. Equally if not more important, no G4 chip setting available in the existing Board diag utility.

Well, as OP knows, I did this to mine. Its current status is Received at LG support. So now I nervously wait to find out if it is repairable (has to be). Their form letter doesn't make you feel comfortable, either
[FONT=&quot]Warranty Repair Notice:[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The device warranty does not cover physical, liquid, or cosmetic damage. If the device is damaged and deemed repairable charges may apply.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If the device is deemed as un-repairable, the device will be returned to you as is.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Charges may apply for units that are out of warranty by manufacturer‘s date code.[/FONT]
But when I needed the sim slot in my G3 replaced, I also received this email and a few days later, had my phone back in my hands all nicely repaired.

@waylo, @autoprime .... when you say antirollback, do you mean this???
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Sj12345 said:
@waylo, @autoprime .... when you say antirollback, do you mean this???
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ooh fancy! im not sure if g4 has that displayed in the settings > about screen.. but maybe? it's not on mine tho (H815 10C)
But yes.. that would be what's being referred to in this thread. As your screen shows "1"... so any bootloader's at "v0" would brick phone... while any "v1" or higher" would work. and if you were to flash a "v2" bootloader.. the versioning would be updated and you could no longer flash anything under "v2".. etc etc.
I'd love to hear from other G4 users if they have this menu value on their phones... would make it easier on me to know which updates are at which version.

autoprime said:
ooh fancy! im not sure if g4 has that displayed in the settings > about screen.. but maybe? it's not on mine tho (H815 10C)
But yes.. that would be what's being referred to in this thread. As your screen shows "1"... so any bootloader's at "v0" would brick phone... while any "v1" or higher" would work. and if you were to flash a "v2" bootloader.. the versioning would be updated and you could no longer flash anything under "v2".. etc etc.
I'd love to hear from other G4 users if they have this menu value on their phones... would make it easier on me to know which updates are at which version.
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It is not "settings > about", I used a secret code and scroll down
Code:
*#*#244773825625#*#*
Found in ATT G4 Forum XD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-g4/general/info-amazing-secret-cough-codes-t3201817

Sj12345 said:
It is not "settings > about", I used a secret code and scroll down
Code:
*#*#244773825625#*#*
Found in ATT G4 Forum XD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-g4/general/info-amazing-secret-cough-codes-t3201817
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Wow, very useful.
On H811, on 10N, yes, anti-rollback listed as "2"
I will add this to the OP when I can.
Now we need an easy way to determine what anti-rollback # a flashable file is.

waylo said:
Wow, very useful.
On H811, on 10N, yes, anti-rollback listed as "2"
I will add this to the OP when I can.
Now we need an easy way to determine what anti-rollback # a flashable file is.
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Yup, but I would like to know how to check this in a KDZ file...

Rooting the Mate 8

As more people are receiving their Mate 8s and participation in the forum increases, I'm noticing large and growing threads where information on various topics is actually getting scattered across multiple threads. For example, on questions relating to syncing the Mate 8's contacts/calendar with Google, I believe I've seen questions and responses get posted across no less than 4 different threads, if not more. As these threads grow, this information is getting buried and less cohesively identified with info pertaining to the exact same topic, but on another thread.
So, in an attempt to refocus the topic of ROOTING (also discussed on various threads now) to one easily sourceable location, I am starting this thread. The hope being that any latest updates and details on rooting the Mate 8 can be consolidated here (at least until a true verifiable guide can be posted) so that interested members need not go hunting all over the place.
Currently, there isn't a much detailed information out there about how and what process(es) to use to root a Mate 8, but a number of people (myself included) are very interested and it's likely more will be looking soon. There have been a few "guides" thrown out there already, but these have turned out to be totally untested for the Mate 8 and later unsuccessful when attempted by members. So if anyone has updated info on how to achieve rooted status, please do share, since only the following (below) seems to be where we stand based on what's already been discussed:
Locked Bootloader
For some/many including myself, it seems the Mate 8 is the first Huawei phone we have purchased, with one previously unknown aspect being that Huawei locks its bootloader, which can't be unlocked within settings-->developer options, or other means. As such, using the power + volume keys is ineffective to boot into any other system status, such as recovery mode or bootloader mode to even attempt a root process
Unlocking the Bootloader
There have been discussions about how to achieve this and it appears Huawei can be contacted directly and a bootloader unlock key can be requested for a user's specific phone by providing Huawei with the phone's IMEI and some other information (for prior Huawei owners who have done this, forgive the rest of our ignorance). There is a specific link on Huawei's website where this can be requested: http://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin.php?id=hwdownload&mod=list
What's Next?
Surprisingly, this is pretty much as far as the discussions have gone to date. In fact, no one has posted as to whether or not they have even heard back from Huawei and successfully unlocked their bootloader with a provided key (or by any other means). Moreover, once the bootloader is unlocked, what the next appropriate steps might be(?). At present there are no custom recovery tools such as TWRP available for the Mate 8, so I presume a rooting process, if achieveable in the near-term would involve adb command lines. But this is where I and others are really hoping for the expertise and insight of other members. Please let the forum know if/when you have additional info!
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I can shed a little bit of light on this, I think.
There is a Chinese forum which shows rooting process:
http://bbs.xxroot.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1434&extra=page=1
You have to register and reply to see the download section, so I will paste it here:
(Original Chinese)
如果您不懂怎么操作，请点此进入淘宝连接购买 ，请认准店名为：智酷网安卓论坛
请先申请华为解锁码解锁BL
目前官网未开放此机型解锁码申请，如有需要请联系QQ:1654068666购买！
申请到解锁码之后，到下载中心搜索 NXT-AL10 下载相应ROOT资料。
360平台 淘宝平台的技师请勿下载，如果需要资料请联系超版，全套价格详谈
(English Translation from Google)
If you do not know how to operate, please click here to enter Taobao connection later, look for its name as follows: Chi Cool Sites Andrews Forum
Please apply for Huawei unlock code to unlock BL
Official website is currently not open this type unlock code application, if necessary, contact QQ: 1654068666 to buy!
After application to the unlock code to the Download Center Search NXT-AL10 download the ROOT data.
Technicians 360 platform Taobao platform do not download, if you need information, please contact the Ultra Edition, a full-price dwell
(Links)
Taobao shop link: https://shop116709821.world.taobao.com/
Download link: http://bbs.xxroot.com/plugin.php?id=downloadcenter
That is as far as I've gotten, because they require money to download the rooting tool (which won't even work unless the bootloader is unlocked.) Huawei says that I need to have had my account on my device for 14 days before I can get an unlock code, so I'm waiting for two weeks to try and do that. If anyone has any more information, it would help, but that seems to be the only place I've seen a successful root.

duraaraa said:
I can shed a little bit of light on this, I think.
There is a Chinese forum which shows rooting process:
http://bbs.xxroot.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1434&extra=page=1
You have to register and reply to see the download section, so I will paste it here:
(Original Chinese)
如果您不懂怎么操作，请点此进入淘宝连接购买 ，请认准店名为：智酷网安卓论坛
请先申请华为解锁码解锁BL
目前官网未开放此机型解锁码申请，如有需要请联系QQ:1654068666购买！
申请到解锁码之后，到下载中心搜索 NXT-AL10 下载相应ROOT资料。
360平台 淘宝平台的技师请勿下载，如果需要资料请联系超版，全套价格详谈
(English Translation from Google)
If you do not know how to operate, please click here to enter Taobao connection later, look for its name as follows: Chi Cool Sites Andrews Forum
Please apply for Huawei unlock code to unlock BL
Official website is currently not open this type unlock code application, if necessary, contact QQ: 1654068666 to buy!
After application to the unlock code to the Download Center Search NXT-AL10 download the ROOT data.
Technicians 360 platform Taobao platform do not download, if you need information, please contact the Ultra Edition, a full-price dwell
(Links)
Taobao shop link: https://shop116709821.world.taobao.com/
Download link: http://bbs.xxroot.com/plugin.php?id=downloadcenter
That is as far as I've gotten, because they require money to download the rooting tool (which won't even work unless the bootloader is unlocked.) Huawei says that I need to have had my account on my device for 14 days before I can get an unlock code, so I'm waiting for two weeks to try and do that. If anyone has any more information, it would help, but that seems to be the only place I've seen a successful root.
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Thanks duraaraa, this is helpful. I live in China so I'm thinking I may stop by one of the big electronics markets here this week to see if these guys are actually able to apply a proper root yet. Even if they can, however, that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to have them do it for my Mate 8, simply because there are many things I don't trust here, and having a stranger monkeying around with my mobile--presumably with some unknown piece of software to allow superuser access to the system--probably qualifies as one of those things. (Of course, that may all be moot anyway, since who knows if Huawei has left some type of backdoor on the phone for the Chinese government...but that's another topic to be filed under "paranoia" I suppose.) Also, I understand you not wanting to pay some strangers (who can't speak any English) money over Taobao for this just quite yet. With all the scams and cheating that goes on here, good luck getting any recourse if it's just another one of those. Or even if it's legit but problems arise, the language barrier for non-Mandarin speakers to seek support would be huge.
Question: when you say you need the account on your device for 14 days, what do you mean by that? It's not enough to create an account online and request the unlock key with your IMEI and other info from the website form? Do they actually want to verify that you've accessed your Huawei account from your phone, like through one of the 20 Huawei apps they've pre-installed? And only after doing that will the 14-day clock start?

CitizenM said:
Thanks duraaraa, this is helpful. I live in China so I'm thinking I may stop by one of the big electronics markets here this week to see if these guys are actually able to apply a proper root yet. Even if they can, however, that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to have them do it for my Mate 8, simply because there are many things I don't trust here, and having a stranger monkeying around with my mobile--presumably with some unknown piece of software to allow superuser access to the system, probably qualifies as one of those things. (Of course, that may all be moot anyway, since who knows if Huawei has left some type of backdoor on the phone for the Chinese government...but that's another topic to be filed under "paranoia" I suppose.) Also, I understand you not wanting to pay some strangers (who can't speak any English) money over Taobao for this just quite yet. With all the scams and cheating that goes on here, good luck getting any recourse if it's just another one of those. Or even if it's legit but problems arise, the language barrier for non-Mandarin speakers to seek support would be huge.
Question: when you say you need the account on your device for 14 days, what do you mean by that? It's not enough to create an account online and request the unlock key with your IMEI and other info from the website form? Do they actually want to verify that you've accessed your Huawei account from your phone, like through one of the 20 Huawei apps they've pre-installed? And only after doing that will the 14-day clock start?
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If you live in China, hopefully you can get better information than I can!
As for the account, it just says you need to have it registered on the phone for 14 days. There is a setting in options where you enter your huawei ID. I imagine it is that. I will let you know if it worked in about 12 days

duraaraa said:
If you live in China, hopefully you can get better information than I can!
As for the account, it just says you need to have it registered on the phone for 14 days. There is a setting in options where you enter your huawei ID. I imagine it is that. I will let you know if it worked in about 12 days
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Got it thanks. There's another member @opteron88 who is probably a few days ahead of you with his request. Hopefully he comes back with some useful info.

How about the guarantee?

EcoDan said:
How about the guarantee?
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Not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean, upon rooting, how does that affect the warranty? I personally don't know, but if I had to guess, I imagine the official manufacturer position is that it would technically void the warranty. Of course, this can be reversed by unrooting and reflashing any custom recovery back to stock. But this is putting the cart before the horse, since many of us are most probably interested in determining how to root and not so much what the manufacturer's official standpoint on rooting is.

The phone has been out for a while now, we must be getting close to someone having waited 14 days?

Looking back, i registered on the Huawei site on the 21st of December, which by my count is over 14 days as long as they don't take into account Bank holidays. I tried to request the bootloader last night i got the "you have to wait 14 days" message. I will try again when i get home, as i don't have all the details with me right now.
Edit: found all the details on the phone itself, and still get the same error message.

There´s a Bootloader- Unlock Code Request-Thread at HuaweiClub, but i cant tell that requests have been answered yet...
http://en.club.vmall.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=33654
I also tried various Root Methods (kingo, Angel root, Genuis ect) but Marschmallow still seem to be unbreakable, maybe because of the Bootloader Lock...
As for BBS root, you need a weibo account and need to pay credits for downloading the root software, i tried this but did not want to add a credit card or anything.

i found a root guide on another chinese forum, this time with actual screenshots.
http://www.114shouji.com/show-15796-1-1.html

altaz said:
i found a root guide on another chinese forum, this time with actual screenshots.
http://www.114shouji.com/show-15796-1-1.html
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Looks like a unlocked Bootloader is still required to use Custom Recovery ... im still waiting for a reply from huaweiclub unlock request thread... :crying:

altaz said:
i found a root guide on another chinese forum, this time with actual screenshots.
http://www.114shouji.com/show-15796-1-1.html
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Found this from that link, http://www.114shouji.com/show-15794-1-1.html
To me it looks like that looks like Huawei will give out keys via this method, just after the 2 weeks.

altaz said:
i found a root guide on another chinese forum, this time with actual screenshots.
http://www.114shouji.com/show-15796-1-1.html
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altaz,
Were you able to get the unlock code yet? In your first post on this thread that you mentioned you registered on the site on Dec. 21st. By my count that's over 14 days, but the message the website kicks back when applying for the unlock code talks about the ID being used on the phone for more than 14 days. Did you login on your phone via settings the same day you registered your ID online?
In fact, can you (and anyone else) confirm that this is the message you also received when applying for the unlock code on Huawei's site: "The Huawei ID used to apply for the unlock code has not been used on the device for more than 14 days." I would imagine someone's had to have already passed this mark, or if not, damn near close by now(?).

I've tried again today, and received the same setting. I read on one of the vmall forums that the english site doesn't work and that you should use the Chinese site. So i went to the Chinese site, and again received the same error message.
I originally registered on the phone itself for the HiCare app and HiCloud, received activiation emails which confirmed that the activation went through. I then noticed though that there seems to be another level of activation. You can get there by going to Settings > Huawei ID > Member
On this screen there is a message under my email that states "Activate Huawei membership, enjoy exclusive services". Now, everytime i click on this to activate i receive an error message saying "Can't connect to server, touch to refresh". Tried refresh lots of times, but doesn't work. Been through all my network/system settings and given everything network access, still doesn't work. I've tried it while connecting to WiFi, 3G and 4G, and it's still the same.
I've pretty much given up hope of getting past this screen, and added it to the growing list of "software/connectivity" quirks i am experiencing with EMUI.

hello I am French and I managed to unlock the bootloader My Mate 8NXT - AL10 without having to go through the Huawei website I will give you the procedure. you must register on the site www.dc-unlocker.com and download their software that you install on your computer.I give you the link where everything is explained: www.dc-unlocker.com/how-to-read-huawei-bootloader-unlock-code and https://www.dc-unlocker.com/free-huawei-bootloader-unlock-tutorial.
following the procedure the software will give you the unlocking code against 16 figures will have to pay 4 euros.
For me it worked for and I could unlock the bootloader

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Confirmed! Tool works, after reading "bootloader code", fastboot oem unlock - worked. WARNING : WILL CAUSE FACTORY RESET!!!
Now, anyone with a root tutorial?
lorenzw said:
hello I am French and I managed to unlock the bootloader My Mate 8NXT - AL10 without having to go through the Huawei website I will give you the procedure. you must register on the site www.dc-unlocker.com and download their software that you install on your computer.I give you the link where everything is explained: www.dc-unlocker.com/how-to-read-huawei-bootloader-unlock-code and https://www.dc-unlocker.com/free-huawei-bootloader-unlock-tutorial.
following the procedure the software will give you the unlocking code against 16 figures will have to pay 4 euros.
For me it worked for and I could unlock the bootloader
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As my experience with p8max, after bootloader unlock cant get air update. In this case need manual install new firmware but right now dont have download link for new firmware and tutorials upgrade. Mate8 is still new and need more time to have a developers. Till now i happy with factory default

quynh2v said:
As my experience with p8max, after bootloader unlock cant get air update. In this case need manual install new firmware but right now dont have download link for new firmware and tutorials upgrade. Mate8 is still new and need more time to have a developers. Till now i happy with factory default
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Would it be possible to flash the international rom when its available and then relock the bootloader and recieve OTA updates for the international version when every other international one gets theres?
Sorry, never had an android and havent properly researched all this stuff, waiting until I get the phone in my hands first.

thomascook said:
Confirmed! Tool works, after reading "bootloader code", fastboot oem unlock - worked. WARNING : WILL CAUSE FACTORY RESET!!!
Now, anyone with a root tutorial?
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well, in theory, u could now try the established root methods out there
push the root file onto the phone via adb then flash it through the stock recovery...
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Often I recieve a call my screen goes blank and I am not able to answer the call . Also when dialling out my screen goes blank after pressing dial . As a result I am not able to put teh call to loud speaker or use any other in call options . Can some please help me how to fix the issue . (I know work around to use Power Button to end calls and Volume to answer calls however that doe snot suite me as I ended up answering few calls which i did not wanted while mobiel in my pocket ). XT1686 (India)

Dev_uday said:
Often I recieve a call my screen goes blank and I am not able to answer the call . Also when dialling out my screen goes blank after pressing dial . As a result I am not able to put teh call to loud speaker or use any other in call options . Can some please help me how to fix the issue . (I know work around to use Power Button to end calls and Volume to answer calls however that doe snot suite me as I ended up answering few calls which i did not wanted while mobiel in my pocket ). XT1686 (India)
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Maybe your proximity sensor isn't working correctly.
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Dev_uday said:
Often I recieve a call my screen goes blank and I am not able to answer the call . Also when dialling out my screen goes blank after pressing dial . As a result I am not able to put teh call to loud speaker or use any other in call options . Can some please help me how to fix the issue . (I know work around to use Power Button to end calls and Volume to answer calls however that doe snot suite me as I ended up answering few calls which i did not wanted while mobiel in my pocket ). XT1686 (India)
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I agree the proximity sensor could be the likely culprit.
Could try a factory reset, or reflashing the firmware.
or even booting into safe mode, to see if an app is causing it.
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Hello,
I wanted to ask if there is a guide (for inexperienced users) to updating the Moto G5 Plus with a custom rom.
I'm looking to install Arrow OS, but haven't been successful in finding instructions.
Any help or tips, links, would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards,
Mumpitz

HerrMumpitz said:
Hello,
I wanted to ask if there is a guide (for inexperienced users) to updating the Moto G5 Plus with a custom rom.
I'm looking to install Arrow OS, but haven't been successful in finding instructions.
Any help or tips, links, would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards,
Mumpitz
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Backup anything you want to save because unlocking the bootloader wipes user data
Unlock bootloader see post #2
Install twrp
Download rom and gaaps
Factory reset in Twrp
Install rom in twrp
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The Mic of my AKG earphone I got with my S9 dosen't work with my MOTO G5+

Vishesh Jawa said:
The Mic of my AKG earphone I got with my S9 dosen't work with my MOTO G5+
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Try another headset, not every set is working with every device.
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How to modify the build.prop file in order to skip device incompatibility?
I want to install Teamfight Tactics in my phone, buy it says it's incompatible. I want to at least try bypassing it and see if it works. I tried changing it to a Moto Z4, but it didn't work. Then I tried changing it to a Samsung Galaxy S9+ with the data I found somewhere in xda. This time, it wouldn't boot. I had to restore the system folder to what I had it before rooting, and I lost the root in the process. When I root it again, how should I change the device model?
I re rooted it now but I can't log in into my Google account, Google Play services keeps stopping.

Sperguze said:
I want to install Teamfight Tactics in my phone, buy it says it's incompatible. I want to at least try bypassing it and see if it works. I tried changing it to a Moto Z4, but it didn't work. Then I tried changing it to a Samsung Galaxy S9+ with the data I found somewhere in xda. This time, it wouldn't boot. I had to restore the system folder to what I had it before rooting, and I lost the root in the process. When I root it again, how should I change the device model?
I re rooted it now but I can't log in into my Google account, Google Play services keeps stopping.
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First of all you should tell us how you changed your device fingerprint to a Moto Z4/S9+. Maybe the way would be to reverse this method. "With the data I found somewhere on XDA" is a bit vague.
Did you use the magisk module Magisk Hide Props Config?
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Wolfcity said:
First of all you should tell us how you changed your device fingerprint to a Moto Z4/S9+. Maybe the way would be to reverse this method. "With the data I found somewhere on XDA" is a bit vague.
Did you use the magisk module Magisk Hide Props Config?
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I only changed two lines, ro.product.model and ro.product.manufacturer. For the Z4, I just changed the first one to Moto Z4, and for the S9+ I found a complete build.prop file in the forum and I changed my file to what it said there (only those two lines).
No, I didn't use that Magisk module. However, now the situation is kinda different, I made a new post about it. I have to solve that before even trying to do this again, so help there would be appreciated.

Moto g5 plus 4gb of ram
Hello, I have been looking everywhere to understand how I can tell *BEFORE* I purchase a moto g5 plus phone for the purposes of rooting if it is eligible for BL unlock.
I have been to the official moto website where it lists that G5 Plus "can" be unlocked but there are many different versions of the G5 Plus that cannot be unlocked. What do I need to look for to understand if the phone is eligible for unlock?
Does it have to be Exynos processor instead of Snapdragon? I saw that phones locked to Verizon and AT&T may not be unlockable but if I buy one from Ebay i'm looking for one that is not carrier locked.
I'm an IOS trying to change to a budget Android so this is all new to me unfortunately.
Thank you in advance!

PolarBearMafia said:
Hello, I have been looking everywhere to understand how I can tell *BEFORE* I purchase a moto g5 plus phone for the purposes of rooting if it is eligible for BL unlock.
I have been to the official moto website where it lists that G5 Plus "can" be unlocked but there are many different versions of the G5 Plus that cannot be unlocked. What do I need to look for to understand if the phone is eligible for unlock?
Does it have to be Exynos processor instead of Snapdragon? I saw that phones locked to Verizon and AT&T may not be unlockable but if I buy one from Ebay i'm looking for one that is not carrier locked.
I'm an IOS trying to change to a budget Android so this is all new to me unfortunately.
Thank you in advance!
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See my unlocking bootloader post in
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Generally you are looking for a non carrier branded device running a Retail software channel
Retail, RetUS, RetEU, Retxx...
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Does processor matter?
sd_shadow said:
Generally you are looking for a non carrier branded device running a Retail software channel
Retail, RetUS, RetEU, Retxx...
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Thank you , the retail software is new information I had not known. I looked on your post and saw that carrier locked and amazon devices cannot be unlocked. This I had known.
What i'm looking for which I cannot seem to find is if Snapdragon processors cannot be bootloader unlocked. Someone said they give problems but I cannot find this information anywhere. Every post just leaders to the bootloader unlocking support page on the official Moto website but that doesn't help me because apparently not all G5 plus models are alike and I cannot go through the process as I do not have the phone. I want to know if it can be unlocked BEFORE i purchase it.

PolarBearMafia said:
Thank you , the retail software is new information I had not known. I looked on your post and saw that carrier locked and amazon devices cannot be unlocked. This I had known.
What i'm looking for which I cannot seem to find is if Snapdragon processors cannot be bootloader unlocked. Someone said they give problems but I cannot find this information anywhere. Every post just leaders to the bootloader unlocking support page on the official Moto website but that doesn't help me because apparently not all G5 plus models are alike and I cannot go through the process as I do not have the phone. I want to know if it can be unlocked BEFORE i purchase it.
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Qualcomm Snapdragon or mediatek does not matter.
It depends on the software channel and carrier.
You need to ask the seller what software channel it's on, be cause that also affects which carrier it can be used on too.
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PolarBearMafia said:
Thank you , the retail software is new information I had not known. I looked on your post and saw that carrier locked and amazon devices cannot be unlocked. This I had known.
What i'm looking for which I cannot seem to find is if Snapdragon processors cannot be bootloader unlocked. Someone said they give problems but I cannot find this information anywhere. Every post just leaders to the bootloader unlocking support page on the official Moto website but that doesn't help me because apparently not all G5 plus models are alike and I cannot go through the process as I do not have the phone. I want to know if it can be unlocked BEFORE i purchase it.
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All Moto G5+ models have the same Snapdragon processor.
I only know one type of device that can't be unlocked and that is the Amazon version with ads on lockscreen (not just sold by Amazon).
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sd_shadow said:
Qualcomm Snapdragon or mediatek does not matter.
It depends on the software channel and carrier.
You need to ask the seller what software channel it's on, be cause that also affects which carrier it can be used on too.
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If the phone is carrier unlocked does that mean it is retail? I have only been looking at carrier unlocked devices.

TFT
I'm trying to play 'Teamfight Tatics' but I'm not getting past the loading screen. So I'm looking for the best game rom, considering that the stock rom is 32 bits is not an option.

S8 Snapdrangon bootloader Q's

hi so i have a few things id like to talk about. i was wondering why it is not possible to port aosp roms to s8 snapdragon? givin its the same android version. also when i was messing around when rooting my s8 i saw that the software i had installed in the steps i went into settings and saw that i could enable oem unlock it worked and whenever i go back to that software its still enabled however i could not use any fastboot commands still. also i flashed twrp (not safe strap already have that) and now my base recovery does not show up....

kadenball said:
hi so i have a few things id like to talk about. i was wondering why it is not possible to port aosp roms to s8 snapdragon? givin its the same android version. also when i was messing around when rooting my s8 i saw that the software i had installed in the steps i went into settings and saw that i could enable oem unlock it worked and whenever i go back to that software its still enabled however i could not use any fastboot commands still. also i flashed twrp (not safe strap already have that) and now my base recovery does not show up....
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Aosp roms requires a custom kernel to work, this requires:
1, unlocked bootloader(not possible on the snapdragon variant)
2, a custom recovery (not possible due to locked bootloader)
Just using the oem unlock option does not unlock the bootloader, more steps are required for most phones in order to unlock the bootloader, if it was that easy it would have been exploited by now, most of the guides on the snapdragon version mention that the bootloader is not unlockable.
You more than likely will need to restore the recovery through odin or something,

sofir786 said:
Aosp roms requires a custom kernel to work, this requires:
1, unlocked bootloader(not possible on the snapdragon variant)
2, a custom recovery (not possible due to locked bootloader)
Just using the oem unlock option does not unlock the bootloader, more steps are required for most phones in order to unlock the bootloader, if it was that easy it would have been exploited by now, most of the guides on the snapdragon version mention that the bootloader is not unlockable.
You more than likely will need to restore the recovery through odin or something,
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Thanks ya I fixed it! And ya I understand there are additional steps to doing this that's why I mentioned fastboot. If you could guide me in a direction to potentially learn more about the kernals and how they work or what I would need to be good at to exploit download mode or knox whatever is required to potentially exploit the bootloader I would not give up on it im fine with wasting my time. I had recently talked to Sam help chat and they told me someone could unlock the bootloader for me (a phone company near me) I talked to a guy over the phone that said it could be possible bc they have the Samsung tools to do so but he told me to call the next day because the other tech knew more then him, so I called the next day and he said they could do it but they would get in trouble for doing so. My plan is to go in when the guy that doesn't know much is working ? and get him to unlock it. Hopefully then I could upload the software here and free the snapdragon slaves!!! If your interested in the conversations I had with Samsung and this other company I could upload the screen shots thank you for your reply!

kadenball said:
Thanks ya I fixed it! And ya I understand there are additional steps to doing this that's why I mentioned fastboot. If you could guide me in a direction to potentially learn more about the kernals and how they work or what I would need to be good at to exploit download mode or knox whatever is required to potentially exploit the bootloader I would not give up on it im fine with wasting my time. I had recently talked to Sam help chat and they told me someone could unlock the bootloader for me (a phone company near me) I talked to a guy over the phone that said it could be possible bc they have the Samsung tools to do so but he told me to call the next day because the other tech knew more then him, so I called the next day and he said they could do it but they would get in trouble for doing so. My plan is to go in when the guy that doesn't know much is working ? and get him to unlock it. Hopefully then I could upload the software here and free the snapdragon slaves!!! If your interested in the conversations I had with Samsung and this other company I could upload the screen shots thank you for your reply!
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I've never dabbled in making kernels or anything so I'm pretty useless with that. The phone has been out for over 3 years now and as of yet there is no software method to unlock the bootloader, android devs would have figured that one out by now if it was possible, if it is possible then maybe there some extra hardware thats required to unlock the bootloader, I honestly don't know enough, I'm experienced enough to know to do certain things but I don't know the ins and out of how bootloader are coded, how the instructions are carried out. But it would defo be interesting to see if they do this for you.

sofir786 said:
I've never dabbled in making kernels or anything so I'm pretty useless with that. The phone has been out for over 3 years now and as of yet there is no software method to unlock the bootloader, android devs would have figured that one out by now if it was possible, if it is possible then maybe there some extra hardware thats required to unlock the bootloader, I honestly don't know enough, I'm experienced enough to know to do certain things but I don't know the ins and out of how bootloader are coded, how the instructions are carried out. But it would defo be interesting to see if they do this for you.
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Ya thanks man when I talked to the inexperienced tech guy he said I could come in and we could try but I didn't want to drive there and waste my time ? but the experienced dude said I could probably find another repair place that would do it (figured it's another one of their shops he was hinting at as there are a few around me) so I will attempt to do this and hopefully some how it works and I can upload the software here not sure if flashing it would unlock anyone elses bootloaders as I expect it to be some sort of key like the HTC phones used to require and is unique to each device. When I got that oem to appear I was trying anything and everything in adb and fastboot as I suspected if we could glitch the phone in fastboot mode we could unlock it lol at least that's what I hoped for, tried upload mode kernal panic the 3 different download modes and tried to replace the Samsung download mode driver and flash the fastboot Android driver on top of it but my lack of knowledge on these things hindered me from making any progress but I believe there's a exploit in this root software that was copyed from the s9 and simply devs don't want to waste there time because they believe it is impossible. I've seen much hard thing accomplished in this dev sight hopefully the right person can figure it out and Is motivated by this post or point me in the right direction ? thanks if you read all this if I get it unlocked you will def see another post lengthy post ?