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Trackball Screwy

Yesterday afternoon the trackball on my N1 stopped working. it'll scroll everywhere but left. Nothing obviously wrong with it, just wont go. thought i'd give it a minute, push and play with it, see if something gives, but no dice. This morning I called HTC, no questions about bootloader which should not affect a hardware issue anyway. Having a replacement sent today.
Now I'll send this phone back, and they will assumably examine and test it. I would agree with any non-hardware issues being rejected due to unlocked bootloader, however if they contact me and say they will not cover the trackball because of this, I will bite the bullet and pay for the repair or replacement, and won't even be pissy about it. I'm just curious what HTC will do, being as this is obviously a hardware issue which unlocking cannot affect.

Seems 50/50 whether they will cover it or not really.

i had a h/w issue and an unlocked bootloader and they still charged me $55 for a replacement
good luck

As of yesterday my trackball has started being annoying, has trouble scrolling downwards, though is not completely broken. I am reluctant to do an exchange, because mine is a special import and has an unlocked bootloader.
Do you have the number for US HTC anyway?

Daswolven said:
Yesterday afternoon the trackball on my N1 stopped working. it'll scroll everywhere but left. Nothing obviously wrong with it, just wont go. thought i'd give it a minute, push and play with it, see if something gives, but no dice. This morning I called HTC, no questions about bootloader which should not affect a hardware issue anyway. Having a replacement sent today.
Now I'll send this phone back, and they will assumably examine and test it. I would agree with any non-hardware issues being rejected due to unlocked bootloader, however if they contact me and say they will not cover the trackball because of this, I will bite the bullet and pay for the repair or replacement, and won't even be pissy about it. I'm just curious what HTC will do, being as this is obviously a hardware issue which unlocking cannot affect.
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How long did you have the phone before it got to this point? Also were you careful with the phone or (trying to find the words) a little wreckless? Just curious..

liam.lah said:
As of yesterday my trackball has started being annoying, has trouble scrolling downwards, though is not completely broken. I am reluctant to do an exchange, because mine is a special import and has an unlocked bootloader.
Do you have the number for US HTC anyway?
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1-888-216-4736
Nexus One specific hotline. They're nice people.

ChillRays said:
How long did you have the phone before it got to this point? Also were you careful with the phone or (trying to find the words) a little wreckless? Just curious..
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you must be an HTC insider...
this shouldn't matter it's covered for a year, no matter how he uses the trackball

zachthemaster said:
you must be an HTC insider...
this shouldn't matter it's covered for a year, no matter how he uses the trackball
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no just curious because I myself am looking into buying this phone. I don't want to repeat someone else's mistakes (if there are any mistakes at all). Not related to this but i've heard plenty of times where someone has said "if I was a little more careful, this wouldn't have happend". I'm trying to find a bunch of those situations so I don't fall for them. Thats it..

ChillRays said:
no just curious because I myself am looking into buying this phone. I don't want to repeat someone else's mistakes (if there are any mistakes at all). Not related to this but i've heard plenty of times where someone has said "if I was a little more careful, this wouldn't have happend". I'm trying to find a bunch of those situations so I don't fall for them. Thats it..
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oh well im a hard user of the trackball and its fine. what other things do you wanna know? ive had three of these so im a pro haha

Thanks for the number.
I can't help but wonder if me using "trackball wakeup" has contributed to this, I hope not, because it is damn handy to use.

liam.lah said:
Thanks for the number.
I can't help but wonder if me using "trackball wakeup" has contributed to this, I hope not, because it is damn handy to use.
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i have that as well on cyanogen 506. honestly it should be fine.
if it sticks, clean the ball with a very miniscule amount of alcohol, it'll break the dirt down and youll be good to go. or just dont think about it everytime you touch it (i used to be that way and now im better off. ha)
oh and a friendly tip.
EVERYTIME you're done using the TB, WIPE IT ON YOUR SHIRT or something cloth. thats the best way to clean it. up and down on your shirt. side to side even too

zachthemaster said:
oh well im a hard user of the trackball and its fine. what other things do you wanna know? ive had three of these so im a pro haha
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Needless to say I think i've heard every problem you could possibly have with this phone happen. From the screen cracking from a 1 foot drop to the camera app not working, to this post. However, I'm going with the n1 anyway. I'm sure that for every bad nexus one, theres 1,999 good ones. Anyway the only thing I need help with is finding a good case that will prevent damage because I have been known for dropping my phone alot.
My friends have told me to go with the "seidio innocase II" and others have said get a crystal silicone case. What do you recommend?

ChillRays said:
Needless to say I think i've heard every problem you could possibly have with this phone happen. From the screen cracking from a 1 foot drop to the camera app not working, to this post. However, I'm going with the n1 anyway. I'm sure that for every bad nexus one, theres 1,999 good ones. Anyway the only thing I need help with is finding a good case that will prevent damage because I have been known for dropping my phone alot.
My friends have told me to go with the "seidio innocase II" and others have said get a crystal silicone case. What do you recommend?
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i just use the included neoprene case and a lot of careful handling. why dont you waltz over to cases and accessories!
but really the neoprene case is just enough for me because i like the naked look and feel of the phone. plus the case was free!

zachthemaster said:
i just use the included neoprene case and a lot of careful handling. why dont you waltz over to cases and accessories!
but really the neoprene case is just enough for me because i like the naked look and feel of the phone. plus the case was free!
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Yeah I've seen those. I tried to get one from ebay and one went for 40 dollars. Screw it, i'll get the free one that comes with the phone. I just hope that offers enough protection. I will check out the cases and accessories. Thanks master =)

ChillRays said:
Yeah I've seen those. I tried to get one from ebay and one went for 40 dollars. Screw it, i'll get the free one that comes with the phone. I just hope that offers enough protection. I will check out the cases and accessories. Thanks master =)
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no problem man. it definitely offers enough protection. but thats my personal use, i handle the thing like a new born so if thats any indication then ya. if you're gonna drop it... dont. haha

ChillRays said:
How long did you have the phone before it got to this point? Also were you careful with the phone or (trying to find the words) a little wreckless? Just curious..
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I've had it since release. I ordered it about 30 minutes after the google.com/phone site was up and running. I am always careful with my devices, and use cases and protectors. My phone has never been dropped or mishandled. By way of example, I also got my G1 on release day, and when i got my nexus I was able to sell it on Ebay for $250 with a review about the immaculate condition of the phone he had received. He said it looked like it just came out of the original box.
I hold babies with less precision and attention.

Easy fix
I had the same problem but mine wouldn't scroll down. After getting the run-around on the phone from HTC, I tried to fix it myself. It took less than 10 seconds.
Just grab the ball using your finger nails or something similar, and twist the ball a little bit. it'll loosen up built up dirt and oil on the sensors, and viola! You should be able to scroll again. If not, then you need a replacement.

miketuesday said:
I had the same problem but mine wouldn't scroll down. After getting the run-around on the phone from HTC, I tried to fix it myself. It took less than 10 seconds.
Just grab the ball using your finger nails or something similar, and twist the ball a little bit. it'll loosen up built up dirt and oil on the sensors, and viola! You should be able to scroll again. If not, then you need a replacement.
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You know, I would try this if the replacement hadn't been delivered to my doorstep like 5 minutes ago. Downside = I suppose I will need to run stock for a few weeks in case they refuse to accept the return because of the bootloader. Will make me appreciate devs all the more.
UPDATE: AAARRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! I AM RESTORING MY BEAUTIFUL PHONE TO STOCK STATE! OMFGPLSGODWHYISTHISHAPPENINGTOME! WILL BE RUNNING STOCK FOR A WEEK OR SO AFTER. HUGE CAN OF SUCK.
Update: okay, so this isn't that bad. Sigh.

transformer stolen

probably the worst way to get your transformer stolen out of town....

ouch! sorry dude. hopefully insurance can cover it?

now that sucks but if you have good insurance maybe a tf prime?
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You didn't just leave it sitting there on your passenger seat, did you?
Sorry to hear about it getting stolen.

Should have installed gotya from market. It's only about $2. It will take a picture and send you an email of the coordinates and picture of the whereabouts of your stolen device. Can even help the cops get the SoB.

lathanub said:
You didn't just leave it sitting there on your passenger seat, did you?
Sorry to hear about it getting stolen.
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i must have i know i had a pillow up there but the windows are extremely dark they must have seen it from the windshield, because my dr dre beats were in the floor and my sisters ipad and phone were in the back so idk, they only took the tf, i bet they dont even know what it is, im assuming they thought it was a laptop. but yeah

too late now... lmao

Danzano said:
now that sucks but if you have good insurance maybe a tf prime?
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ah my dad said our deductible may be too high but he's going to check and hopefully we will get something out of it, and i already told him cause he wants one too thats its a formal invitation to the tf prime

Xda Newb said:
too late now... lmao
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I'm assuming you're talking to me. From now on, put on all your devices a security app like gotya. I started putting it on all of mine after they stole my gps right out of my car.

dont wanna be mean, but the funny part is that it happened at a frys. LOL. security footage from the stores. im sure they got cameras outside.

Maybe if the people who stole it are dumb you can install the gotya app from market.android.com?

Taknarosh said:
Maybe if the people who stole it are dumb you can install the gotya app from market.android.com?
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True that. they gotta have it connected to wifi... unless they wiped it. highly doubt it though.

There's an old saying....out of site, out of mind. Leaving a car full of electronics in plain site is just asking for it.
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Optimus-Prime said:
dont wanna be mean, but the funny part is that it happened at a frys. LOL. security footage from the stores. im sure they got cameras outside.
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lol we talked to them and gave the security Guy our Info he said there wasn't a view from the cameras, he checked

Try the Plan-B app from Lookout. Worth a shot.

Those security apps are only good if the criminal is incredibly stupid. I mean not that I would steal something like that, but if I did, the first thing I would do is a factory reset. Unless they build the security into the firmware like that crap that you can activate in the BIOS of a computer so it can't be disabled, there really isn't a good way to catch a thief.
Hey, maybe I should patent that idea before Apple does?

Optimus-Prime said:
True that. they gotta have it connected to wifi... unless they wiped it. highly doubt it though.
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Unless he has a lock on it, like I have the pattern unlock enabled (mostly because i take it to work though. i work in a network security company so leaving phones/tablets/laptops unlocked usually leads to a crude e-mail sent as you to everyone in the company haha).

The simple fix to BIOS passwords, CMOS reset jumper or the old battery trick. Nothing is secure once physically compromised. (Unless it is sealed tight in some Titanium that's capable of withstanding 10kg of TNT)
Moral of the story is: Don't leave valuables in the car and definitely don't leave it out for everyone to see. Heck a teen could've taken it due to iPad craze (thus the TF, oh the irony). I'm sure it was an impulse theft, a professional thief would take more time to throughly look through every cabinet of the car as they already went through the risk of breaking the window... That is just my opinion though.

frosty5689 said:
The simple fix to BIOS passwords, CMOS reset jumper or the old battery trick. Nothing is secure once physically compromised. (Unless it is sealed tight in some Titanium that's capable of withstanding 10kg of TNT)
Moral of the story is: Don't leave valuables in the car and definitely don't leave it out for everyone to see. Heck a teen could've taken it due to iPad craze (thus the TF, oh the irony). I'm sure it was an impulse theft, a professional thief would take more time to throughly look through every cabinet of the car as they already went through the risk of breaking the window... That is just my opinion though.
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Most theft when an automobile is involved (unless they are actually stealing the car) is a smash and grab. Especially if it was mid day, it's much quicker to grab what you see than to comb the car for everything they can find of value.

temporarily_insane said:
Should have installed gotya from market. It's only about $2. It will take a picture and send you an email of the coordinates and picture of the whereabouts of your stolen device. Can even help the cops get the SoB.
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Assuming the OP didnt have a screen lock code and the thief connected the TF to wifi then yeah that would work.

Is this phone worth saving, or trash it.

Oh and sorry to all the princesses on here who cant even wait for a person to sleep through the night before bring out the lynch mob and pitch forks.
Next time I will PM each one of you individually so you will get minute by minute updates of my life.
ANYWAY
Is this have any value for me to keep in parts.
It powers on but the LED screen does not come up, about all that seems usefull to me is the back and battery. Is there anything else worth saving?

No insurance on the phone? I was going to say get a replacement screen on ebay but I just checked the prices and my god its not worth it.

Would probably be worth keeping it. Parts prices will fall in the next few months and could replace the screen pretty cheaply if you hold on to it.

Why did you not ask this question in the other thread you started?

I'll buy it off of you. pm me

You could use the HDMI out and use it as a Linux PC.
*shruggs*

holy crap what did you do to it

Jfree3000 said:
No insurance on the phone? I was going to say get a replacement screen on ebay but I just checked the prices and my god its not worth it.
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Would probably be worth keeping it. Parts prices will fall in the next few months and could replace the screen pretty cheaply if you hold on to it.
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I need the actual LED display also, not just the glass.
I do have insurance, but at the time it was still on the road so I claimed it lost, it was still there when I came back home so I picked it up.

dhmgejs said:
holy crap what did you do to it
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Forgot it on top of the car and did a little driving, got ran over when it fell off

jcbofkc said:
Why did you not ask this question in the other thread you started?
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It go over ran by ignorant people so it got shut down

mikeschevelle said:
It go over ran by ignorant people so it got shut down
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Fair enough. I did not notice it was locked. Good luck!

save it for a rainy day. spare battery or whatever isnt damaged. i dont see the need to start a thread to help make a decision about something that does not help anyone else on XDA.
If anything we now know, not to leave our expensive device on a car and drive away. Thank you for the insight.

mikeschevelle said:
It go over ran by ignorant people so it got shut down
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people are mad.. because..
you only post a broken galaxy s3 pic + "booo" word.
just boooo word.
it just like you somehow
make a statement that galaxy s3 is a bad and so fragile device.
which is not,
it got ran by a truck,
of course it's broke.
anyway..
just wait for the parts price down,
it's still rare and pricy for now.
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mikeschevelle said:
Oh and sorry to all the princesses on here who cant even wait for a person to sleep through the night before bring out the lynch mob and pitch forks.
Next time I will PM each one of you individually so you will get minute by minute updates of my life.
ANYWAY
Is this have any value for me to keep in parts.
It powers on but the LED screen does not come up, about all that seems usefull to me is the back and battery. Is there anything else worth saving?
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300$ AU + a do it yourself video: http://youtu.be/_70-W9JjVjg

mikeschevelle said:
Oh and sorry to all the princesses on here who cant even wait for a person to sleep through the night before bring out the lynch mob and pitch forks.
Next time I will PM each one of you individually so you will get minute by minute updates of my life.
ANYWAY
Is this have any value for me to keep in parts.
It powers on but the LED screen does not come up, about all that seems usefull to me is the back and battery. Is there anything else worth saving?
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Didn't you say you had insurance and were getting it replaced?
Don't you have to send it back?

marhensa said:
people are mad.. because..
you only post a broken galaxy s3 pic + "booo" word.
just boooo word.
it just like you somehow
make a statement that galaxy s3 is a bad and so fragile device.
which is not,
it got ran by a truck,
of course it's broke.
anyway..
just wait for the parts price down,
it's still rare and pricy for now.
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I get that, but I posted late at night and got up the next morning to a lynch mob, its not like I abandoned the thread. I would have never thought anyone would intentionally damage such an expensive thread so it was rather pathetic to see that was the direction of the thread before I had a chance to respond.

Kreeker said:
Didn't you say you had insurance and were getting it replaced?
Don't you have to send it back?
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I claimed it as lost, It fell off on a very busy road and I wasnt to keen on trying to stop traffic to get it. On the way home it had worked its way closer to the side of the road and traffic was a lot lighter so I decided to venture out (mainly just to see if my SD made it). I had already made the claim though as lost, since I didnt plan on trying to retrieve the phone.

mikeschevelle said:
I get that, but I posted late at night and got up the next morning to a lynch mob, its not like I abandoned the thread. I would have never thought anyone would intentionally damage such an expensive thread so it was rather pathetic to see that was the direction of the thread before I had a chance to respond.
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i feel you man. people bandwagon and gang up way too easily.

It's sad really
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[Q] Water Damaged S4... why me? [UPDATED]

Well I did it... Water damaged S4. I was on vaca on Hilton Head when I took my phone with me into the pool completely forgetting I had it in my pocket. Insurance was useless because I only added it after the occurrence and they can apparently see now if there is any active use on the phone in question so they said no. So I guess I have just a couple of questions:
#1 How salvageable is this device? I have read some other posts about taking the phone apart and using ethanol or isopropal to remove any chemical or salt deposits.
#2 Is this even worth trying...? Based off the pics is this even a worth while cause?
Thanks and plz belay the '[email protected] comments. I have been through it all since this past Friday.
UPDATE:
Well after a few hours with the isopropal alc. and a toothbrush I got the phone all cleaned up and dried with a hairdryer. This was a few hours ago but I decided to give it a try and put the battery back in. Unfortunately I think it succumbed to the damage- all that would happen is the usual vibrate as you hold down the power button but the screen will not light up and no sound.
Someone noted that the corrosion looked especially bad... it was probably all the chlorine build up as I had the phone submerged for about 5-10 minutes. I posted some 'AFTER' pics of my cleaning job and you may notice that there may have been some shorting or heat damage done to some of the components.
Lastly, after a heartfelt conversation with my wife about what my options were we discussed the notion of adding a line to our plan as we'll have need of a 'home' phone eventually (jr. coming in July). So I think I may be able to trade in the iphone 4 I've been using and get another one.

That looks like some pretty bad corrosion. I've had luck in the past with removing all the parts attached to the logic board and giving it an "acid bath" in isopropal and scraping what you can away with like a spudger or a toothpick. I also believe that the display assembly and LCD are fused together, so while you hopefully don't have leakage into that area.
That being said, that is some of the oddest residue I have seen from water damage, maybe because of the salts/chemicals used in the pool? You might try and tear down as much as you can in terms of mid-frames and the like, and use a dampened cloth to remove all of that gunk.
Worst that can happen is that it doesn't work and you sell it on ebay as "slightly used"
Here is the ifixit guide, best of luck to you! http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S4+Teardown/13947/1

I use raw acetone to clean water damaged phones. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt
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cinnabar said:
Well I did it... Water damaged S4. I was on vaca on Hilton Head when I took my phone with me into the pool completely forgetting I had it in my pocket. Insurance was useless because I only added it after the occurrence and they can apparently see now if there is any active use on the phone in question so they said no. So I guess I have just a couple of questions:
#1 How salvageable is this device? I have read some other posts about taking the phone apart and using ethanol or isopropal to remove any chemical or salt deposits.
#2 Is this even worth trying...? Based off the pics is this even a worth while cause?
Thanks and plz belay the '[email protected] comments. I have been through it all since this past Friday.
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Wow, dude sorry, good pics, before you do anything, get some dry white rice, put in a sealed plastic bag, seal each part in the rice for 24-48hrs...it may work, had a friend drop his in tolit, we got it to work using this process, what could trying it hurt eh? Good Luck.

Z51 said:
I use raw acetone to clean water damaged phones. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt
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Wow, dude sorry, good pics, before you do anything, get some dry white rice, put in a sealed plastic bag, seal each part in the rice for 24-48hrs...it may work, had a friend drop his in tolit, we got it to work using this process, what could trying it hurt eh? Good Luck.
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Sorry to say, but I think it's too far gone for any of these suggestions. Those methods are meant for immediate action after taking a short dip in water (such as a toilet). From the looks of those pictures, I'd say you did some good long swimming in that pool before realizing your phone was along for the ride. So I think you may be SOL. Just a forewarning in case you try some of these methods with high expectations.
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plwalsh88 said:
Sorry to say, but I think it's too far gone for any of these suggestions. Those methods are meant for immediate action after taking a short dip in water (such as a toilet). From the looks of those pictures, I'd say you did some good long swimming in that pool before realizing your phone was along for the ride. So I think you may be SOL. Just a forewarning in case you try some of these methods with high expectations.
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I agree 100%
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Check with your credit card company. You might be covered under their accidental damage coverage policy, if any.
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Would at&t insurance or squaretrade cover this?

nani4215 said:
Check with your credit card company. You might be covered under their accidental damage coverage policy, if any.
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Great suggestion, also I have heard that some home insurance company's do the same thing
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probably not the best idea to post a picture with your imei, in case you do get your phone working. Just throwing that out there.

mudknot2005 said:
probably not the best idea to post a picture with your imei, in case you do get your phone working. Just throwing that out there.
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What this guy said! OP I would immediately remove your first picture or black out your IMEI and Serial.. Like five minutes ago lol
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mudknot2005 said:
probably not the best idea to post a picture with your imei, in case you do get your phone working. Just throwing that out there.
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More likely he is in no danger of getting that phone working again.

ricktat said:
More likely he is in no danger of getting that phone working again.
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That phone is beyond repair, looks very bad. I had my captivate sit in the tub for 3 hours and when I opened it, it didnt look anything like that and after a few hours the phone was back at work with a new battery. Sorry OP but you have a very expensive paper weight.

mudknot2005 said:
probably not the best idea to post a picture with your imei, in case you do get your phone working. Just throwing that out there.
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Myth # 115

nani4215 said:
Check with your credit card company. You might be covered under their accidental damage coverage policy, if any.
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I actually did just that. Amex has it covered under their purchase protection so I'm covered financially, now its just the fact that I now have a AT&T Contract with nothing to show for it...

I did exactly the same thing on vacation with an iphone 4s. After that I paid and sent my new phone to a company that waterproofs the boards and components in the phone. Was only like 45 dollars plus shipping. Tested it out and the water just slides right off the boards in the phone xD amazing stuff
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mudknot2005 said:
probably not the best idea to post a picture with your imei, in case you do get your phone working. Just throwing that out there.
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JoJo2211 said:
Myth # 115
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Not a myth. I can clone his IMEI. takes 5 minutes
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trey.mcd said:
Worst that can happen is that it doesn't work and you sell it on ebay as "slightly used"
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You're advocating that he scam somebody on Ebay? The **** is wrong with you?

Moto X exploded

Phone was sitting turned off on my night stand and this is what I come home to.

Ouch! Looks like the battery swelled a bit!

perfoliate said:
Ouch! Looks like the battery swelled a bit!
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Getting the run around from Motorola, they say its physical damage which voids the warranty and they are not sure they will replace it. This is a replacement for my original which was defective but the warranty should have transferred to this one. They say they will get back to me in 24 hours after someone higher up looks at the pics I sent in. I don't use it any more as I bought an iPhone 6 and went to the dark side but they still need to replace it.

kzoodroid said:
Getting the run around from Motorola, they say its physical damage which voids the warranty and they are not sure they will replace it. [...]
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I'd say from the pics it seems obvious the damage came from the inside, where user damage most often comes from the outside.

marco_ said:
I'd say from the pics it seems obvious the damage came from the inside, where user damage most often comes from the outside.
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Users can cause damage on the inside. This is a Developer Edition, so it could be unlocked, rooted, overclocked, etc. Just saying...

fury683 said:
Users can cause damage on the inside. This is a Developer Edition, so it could be unlocked, rooted, overclocked, etc. Just saying...
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Since it is a Developer Edition unlocking the boootloader is covered in the warranty (hence the higher price).
Overclocking a device should never make the battery cook/explode. My guess is the damage was not inflicted bij an exploding X8 SOC.

kzoodroid said:
Phone was sitting turned off on my night stand and this is what I come home to.
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Was it charging?

The only thing that would have caused that is a failed battery. It appears to have puffed up to extreme levels.
Better then bursting into flames at least...

I'm glad at least it didn't caught on fire and burn down your house.

Drew66 said:
Was it charging?
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No it was turned off for a week and sitting on a table.

fury683 said:
Users can cause damage on the inside. This is a Developer Edition, so it could be unlocked, rooted, overclocked, etc. Just saying...
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It's fully stock except for the unlocked bootloader and as have stated previously it was turned off and disconnected from the charger just sitting on a table.

marco_ said:
Since it is a Developer Edition unlocking the boootloader is covered in the warranty (hence the higher price).
Overclocking a device should never make the battery cook/explode. My guess is the damage was not inflicted bij an exploding X8 SOC.
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The issues tech support were having last night are: 1). this is a replacement phone for my original which had cell radio issues and they weren't sure the original 1 year warranty transferred over to this one 2). physical damage voids the warranty as they assume it's caused by the user dropping it 3.) they've never heard of a battery exploding when the phone was turned off and not charging. Having the phone in hand its obviously it's from an exploded battery I offered to send it in to them so they can verify this. I was told I would hear back in 24 hours as to if they will cover it under warranty once someone higher up looked at the pics I sent in.

Kinda worried about mine doing the same. I have a dev edition as well and over time the phone's back has developed a few bulges and feels uneven to the touch. Hopefully it doesn't actually explode though. I'm not too interested in changing phones again.

Been almost 48 hours since I contacted customer support and still no word back on if they are going to cover it under warranty. If I get a replacement I'm going to sell it as I got the new iPhone 6 and am happy with it and I still have a Nexus 4 to play around with.

Hey maybe you could do us current x owners a solid and donate it to someone on the PA legacy team so we could get official PA builds. Pretty please

fakieskr8333 said:
Hey maybe you could do us current x owners a solid and donate it to someone on the PA legacy team so we could get official PA builds. Pretty please
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He'll need to send the phone in. They don't take your word it's broke and just send you a new device. ?

KJ said:
He'll need to send the phone in. They don't take your word it's broke and just send you a new device. ?
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Yea I meant send them the new phone since he won't be using it lol.

fakieskr8333 said:
Yea I meant send them the new phone since he won't be using it lol.
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Ah! I somehow doubt that's happening. ?

KJ said:
Ah! I somehow doubt that's happening. ?
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I didn't have high hopes but I thought it was worth a shot lol. Hopefully he can get it straightened out soon. It's a good thing he has another phone to use, I'd be pissed if I was phoneless this long.

Three days later and still no answer back so I contacted them again and this time got it moved to repairs escalation reports who are closed on weekends. Tech support guys on chat keep saying well that's physical damage and voids the warranty and you have to pay for repairs. The one I talked to today actually said batteries are only covered if it explodes on first few charges. WTF? Three days ago I offered to send the phone to them to verify its an exploded battery but they said no the pictures were enough. If I had bought this through a carrier I would've had a new phone by now, Verizon always replaced my defective phones on the first call no questions asked.