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This might be why you can’t find a Nexus 6 in the Google Play Store right now

http://bgr.com/2014/10/30/nexus-6-sold-out-in-google-play-store/
The publication says the Nexus 6 is “huge” for Google’s future in the smartphone company, and the phone is intended to be sold mainly through carriers, rather than on Google Play.
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Interesting read if for nothing more than the comments

Dumb. Dumb.
Another great flagship phone that next to no one can buy...instead of by design due to a moronic invite system...this time due to a moronic inventory choice.

Heads are going to roll for this 3 years mess: Today Andy Rubin, co-founder and former leader of Google Inc.’s Android mobile business is leaving Google!
Not sure exact reason but....

Skripka said:
Dumb. Dumb.
Another great flagship phone that next to no one can buy...instead of by design due to a moronic invite system...this time due to a moronic inventory choice.
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How is it moronic if numbers say most will buy through a carrier. Seems like a simple choice to me.
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It could be that there is an official agreement to allow carriers to sell most of the devices. Of course, if that were the case they never should have offered a Play Store pre-sale in the first place.

Just seems like a typical BGR article. They're a rag of a site that makes up news

BGR..... I cant even bring myself to click their click bait $*¥+ any more

Benny879 said:
How is it moronic if numbers say most will buy through a carrier. Seems like a simple choice to me.
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When Google has a golden opportunity to sell a device that most carriers haven't even listed on their sites yet or formally announced plans to carry, and make money...it is moronic.
Having a flagship device that no one can buy due to your (Google's) idiotic bureaucratic decision making is how to get people who otherwise are your fan base pissed at you...see the idiocy of One+

Skripka said:
When Google has a golden opportunity to sell a device that most carriers haven't even listed on their sites yet or formally announced plans to carry, and make money...it is moronic.
Having a flagship device that no one can buy due to your (Google's) idiotic bureaucratic decision making is how to get people who otherwise are your fan base pissed at you...see the idiocy of One+
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Its not moronic if that was the condition carriers wanted if they were to carrier the product. I'm pretty sure the men making these decisions know more than the all of us here. Not to mention they have access to numbers and info we don't to make such a decision.
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people need to stop crying and just go into their carrier and buy it there. it's not like it isn't the same phone online.
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The phone isn't even released yet... People need to calm down. Even IF you were able to preorder it would still have been weeks before you got the phone.

NightHawkUndead said:
The phone isn't even released yet... People need to calm down. Even IF you were able to preorder it would still have been weeks before you got the phone.
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But if everyone calmed down, I'd have nothing to entertain myself with for the next couple of weeks...

dtroup64 said:
But if everyone calmed down, I'd have nothing to annoy xda'ers with for the next couple of weeks...
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Fixed. [emoji2]

Prod1702 said:
people need to stop crying and just go into their carrier and buy it there. it's not like it isn't the same phone online.
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Odds are it isn't.
You get some degree of bloat (albeit removable it sounds like) and what is more delayed updates.

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Odds are it isnt.
You get some degree of bloat (albeit removable it sounds like) and what is more delayed updates.
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If its the same model you could just flash the factory image so its no big deal.

Pilz said:
If its the same model you could just flash the factory image so its no big deal.
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tmobile nexus 4 and 5 was the same one from the play store nothing different. it still got the updates from Google. no bloat at all unless Google put it on there. I can't speak about the others. I am buying mine on the 12th from the tmo store and I am sure it will be the same one Google sends out.
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Prod1702 said:
tmobile nexus 4 and 5 was the same one from the play store nothing different. it still got the updates from Google. no bloat at all unless Google put it on there. I can't speak about the others. I am buying mine on the 12th from the tmo store and I am sure it will be the same one Google sends out.
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This is one of two things I was worried about if I have to pick it up from T-Mo:
- 1) I just want to make sure the updates come from Google and not the carrier (T-Mo in this case). Especially since I will be paying all upfront for it since I am prepaid and don't want to sign up for a post paid plan. There's no sense in me having to wait for an update if I'm not tied to any sort of plan or carrier.
- 2) I would very much rather purchase directly from the Play Store if only for the GREAT 1-year hassle-free warranty coverage they have. I had to do a warranty exchange a few weeks ago on my N5, and whole procedure was absolutely painless. I had my replacement device in-hand the very next day.
So, as much as I would prefer to buy it from the Play Store, if the speculation that the majority of sales will be taking place through the carriers and the supply on the Play Store will be scarce, I would just want the T-Mo phone to be EXACTLY like the one they sell in the Play Store, with no carrier meddling/bloatware.

Google news for us in the uk then as long as there is a decent amount of stock as no carriers have listed it as exclusive to either O2, ee, Vodafone or three afaik

disk0360 said:
Google news for us in the uk then as long as there is a decent amount of stock as no carriers have listed it as exclusive to either O2, ee, Vodafone or three afaik
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I'm really hoping the same thing doesn't happen in the U.K. with Stock issues
Hopefully its all under control by then, and they just put it on the site for sale and ship the same time as the US

charesa39 said:
This is one of two things I was worried about if I have to pick it up from T-Mo:
- 1) I just want to make sure the updates come from Google and not the carrier (T-Mo in this case). Especially since I will be paying all upfront for it since I am prepaid and don't want to sign up for a post paid plan. There's no sense in me having to wait for an update if I'm not tied to any sort of plan or carrier.
- 2) I would very much rather purchase directly from the Play Store if only for the GREAT 1-year hassle-free warranty coverage they have. I had to do a warranty exchange a few weeks ago on my N5, and whole procedure was absolutely painless. I had my replacement device in-hand the very next day.
So, as much as I would prefer to buy it from the Play Store, if the speculation that the majority of sales will be taking place through the carriers and the supply on the Play Store will be scarce, I would just want the T-Mo phone to be EXACTLY like the one they sell in the Play Store, with no carrier meddling/bloatware.
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1.) Same freaking phone no doubt about it. Its been said a billion times. Updates from google Tmobile bloat
2.) You get next day shipping with Tmobile if you have their insurance plan which I recommend as it extends it past the 1 year google offers.
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verizon still missing on google play

im starting to get nervous as verizon is still not listed on google play ordering page... thats extremely scary knowing how verizon works.... yes ive seen the videos where they got some of the demos devices working by inserting a verizon sim card, but that doesnt make me feel any better

It works on Verizon out of the box. It's already been confirmed.

ive talked to a couple different reps on Verizon. made it very clear to them if Verizon decides not to carry this device in stores (subsidized contract) i will not stay with Verizon any longer. i will move to tmobile. they told me they would be getting device and confirmed the nexus 6 will work on Verizon, but no specific dates. IM SO IRRITATED with how companies handle these matters... Google has announced the phone, WHY KEEP SECRETS!?

anthonyg45157 said:
ive talked to a couple different reps on Verizon. made it very clear to them if Verizon decides not to carry this device in stores (subsidized contract) i will not stay with Verizon any longer. i will move to tmobile. they told me they would be getting device and confirmed the nexus 6 will work on Verizon, but no specific dates. IM SO IRRITATED with how companies handle these matters... Google has announced the phone, WHY KEEP SECRETS!?
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I think it might be more of a later release than not carry it at all, which still sucks

They are pushing the Droid turbo, I predict a two month delay for Verizon.

journeyman73 said:
I think it might be more of a later release than not carry it at all, which still sucks
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Still almost enough reason for me to leave verizon! lol
Two reasons they(verizon) could be delaying Nexus 6
1. Dont wanna hurt sales of droid turbo. (i believe this to be largest reason)
2. They wanna fiddle and add bloatware to the nexus
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Jfree3000 said:
They are pushing the Droid turbo, I predict a two month delay for Verizon.
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Agreed, they spent way too much money on those James franco turbo commercials to release 2 top tier phones so close to eachother.

Droid Turbo now, Note 4 Edge on the 14th......we will be lucky to see a VZW N6 announcement in November, more likely just before Xmas
Announcing it now would dilute sales of those other devices. They are a business. The other carriers have one less flagship phone to spread sales across because the Turbo was a VZW exclusive.

Why not buy from Motorola when they release it?

So is anyone on Verizon gonna risk and order it if they get lucky enough to catch it on the play store? My problem is they r keeping Verizon off of the play store for a reason and I can't understand why other then that version isn't gonna work after all. I want to order it but just wondering if anyone else is gonna risk it.

i talked to a verizon rep and asked if they are gonna even be making an announcement of late nov early dec something atleast!? he said as of now no information can be said or none is available, i told him thats fine i guess but i only got 1 month left on my contract and was gonna get phone outright anyway so i would jump from verizon to att if i just get my phone before hand. He said no need for that the phone will be on vzw soon lol .....but no damn date or even month ballpark
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INCREMENTAL said:
So is anyone on Verizon gonna risk and order it if they get lucky enough to catch it on the play store? My problem is they r keeping Verizon off of the play store for a reason and I can't understand why other then that version isn't gonna work after all. I want to order it but just wondering if anyone else is gonna risk it.
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im gonna just try to order it from playstore or preferably motorola, and if for some reason it cant be running on vzw ill just go to att store and get it going there

smalltownbird said:
Why not buy from Motorola when they release it?
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Has it been confirmed that Motorola will be selling it? Sure they have the device on their site but that doesn't mean you can buy it from them. They have droid phones listed on their site as well but when you try to buy you're directed to VZW sales page. I hope that when you try to buy from Motorola it doesn't direct you to the Google play store.
I would like to use my moto credit for the N6

Mayze23 said:
Has it been confirmed that Motorola will be selling it? Sure they have the device on their site but that doesn't mean you can buy it from them. They have droid phones listed on their site as well but when you try to buy you're directed to VZW sales page. I hope that when you try to buy from Motorola it doesn't direct you to the Google play store.
I would like to use my moto credit for the N6
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I cant find anywhere that they will. I think because the turbo is a Verizon exclusive it takes you there. The rest of the phones that are multi carrier all can be bought on their site

Just got off the phone with Google
Just got off the phone with Google due to my nasty email sent to them. Some rep called me apologize for the crappy pre-order that took place last week blah blah blah... Anyway she stated that they were informed today that Google has received a much larger stock of phones and pre-orders will take place tomorrow and last longer than 5 minutes. She also confirmed that Verizon is supported when purchasing a nexus 6 google play edition.

Only their own moto phones can be purchased from them. X,G & E. Technically the Nexus 6 is Google's phone. Then again HTC sells the N9 on their site. I guess we'll just have to wait and see

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So is anyone on Verizon gonna risk and order it if they get lucky enough to catch it on the play store? My problem is they r keeping Verizon off of the play store for a reason and I can't understand why other then that version isn't gonna work after all. I want to order it but just wondering if anyone else is gonna risk it.
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I already got lucky and ordered from the play store. I'm not concerned one bit about it working on Verizon. It's been confirmed through Google reps, Verizon reps and those with a test unit. It'll be smooth sailing [emoji5]

2swizzle said:
Just got off the phone with Google due to my nasty email sent to them. Some rep called me apologize for the crappy pre-order that took place last week blah blah blah... Anyway she stated that they were informed today that Google has received a much larger stock of phones and pre-orders will take place tomorrow and last longer than 5 minutes. She also confirmed that Verizon is supported when purchasing a nexus 6 google play edition.
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Really? Did she mention a time tomorrow?
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charesa39 said:
Really? Did she mention a time tomorrow?
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I asked the google rep that exact question and she responded "I don't know the exact time, but expect it to be early"

smalltownbird said:
I cant find anywhere that they will. I think because the turbo is a Verizon exclusive it takes you there. The rest of the phones that are multi carrier all can be bought on their site
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Motorola confirmed on the day of the announcement that it would be sold on motorola.com.
motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google-and-motorola-more.html

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/31/nexus-6-working-on-verizon-out-of-the-box/
check this

Mayze23 said:
Has it been confirmed that Motorola will be selling it? Sure they have the device on their site but that doesn't mean you can buy it from them. They have droid phones listed on their site as well but when you try to buy you're directed to VZW sales page. I hope that when you try to buy from Motorola it doesn't direct you to the Google play store.
I would like to use my moto credit for the N6
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http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google-and-motorola-more.html?m=1
I'm probably also going to go the moto credit route. At the bottom of the blog post it says:
"Nexus 6 will be available for pre-order through the Google Play Store in late October starting at $649. There are two colors to choose from - Midnight Blue or Cloud White - and two memory options - 32GB and 64GB. Nexus 6 will also be available on*motorola.com*and through carrier partners starting in November. You’ll hear from our carrier partners soon with additional pricing and availability information. In all, Nexus 6 will come to 28 countries across Europe, Asia-Pacific and North America starting later this year and as we head into Q1."

Verizon Nexus 6 announcement December 31st

I just talked with a verizon rep in their live chat, they told me that there will be an announcement the 31st about when the phone can be ordered.

alligator_fight said:
I just talked with a verizon rep in their live chat, they told me that there will be an announcement the 31st about when the phone can be ordered.
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Probably the same rep that said it was being released last Saturday, in February, and doesn't know what an N6 is but would be happy to help you purchase a Droid Turbo.
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lol. just spoke with "jerry" via live chat. got same thing i've been getting since initial release:
At this time, we have not been provided information regarding the release of the Nexus 6.
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I called and talked to a rep last week. He had no information either. I've been (im)patiently waiting since the day Google announced the phone. I was only a couple of days away from being able to upgrade, and had my mind set on a Note 4. I've been getting more frustrated every day, as one of my co-workers went and looked at the N6 at the freaking US Cellular store. US Cellular! They have it before Verizon... I'm concerned that Verizon is taking all of this time to lock the phone as tight as the Note 4, which is still un-rooted on VZW. I live in a small rural area where our ONLY coverage is VZW and USC.

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I'm concerned that Verizon is taking all of this time to lock the phone as tight as the Note 4, which is still un-rooted on VZW. I live in a small rural area where our ONLY coverage is VZW and USC.
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Thank Samsung for that. I don't know why anyone thought differently given the Note 3 bounty is *still* outstanding. And with Android L's change wrt kernel and root...odds are it will never be rooted.
Vote with your wallet people. Don't give Samsung a dime for their Knox crapware.

Skripka said:
Thank Samsung for that. I don't know why anyone thought differently given the Note 3 bounty is *still* outstanding. And with Android L's change wrt kernel and root...odds are it will never be rooted.
Vote with your wallet people. Don't give Samsung a dime for their Knox crapware.
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Oh, I agree somewhat. Knox blows. Samsung Touchwiz is my least favorite. BUT, the Note 4 is rooted already for the other carriers in the USA, but even (last I checked) over $11000 worth of bounty for root access on the VZW version hasn't had any success. If that was because of Samsung, the Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T versions wouldn't already have root access. The Note 4 hardware is amazing, we just need the ability to put different software on it. I hate Verizon... I may switch to US Cellular someday. They historically haven't had flagship phones available until the last year or two. But, there still isn't much in the way of Dev support here for their phones. What good is a monster phone if we can't hack and crack a bit? LOL

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Oh, I agree somewhat. Knox blows. Samsung Touchwiz is my least favorite. BUT, the Note 4 is rooted already for the other carriers in the USA, but even (last I checked) over $11000 worth of bounty for root access on the VZW version hasn't had any success. If that was because of Samsung, the Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T versions wouldn't already have root access. The Note 4 hardware is amazing, we just need the ability to put different software on it. I hate Verizon... I may switch to US Cellular someday. They historically haven't had flagship phones available until the last year or two. But, there still isn't much in the way of Dev support here for their phones. What good is a monster phone if we can't hack and crack a bit? LOL
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Half the problem with dev support is the insistence that every USA carrier have a unique SKU and mutually incompatible firmware. Which leads to community dev fragmentation to the max. Which is squarely on the manufacturer to blame. Knox and the locked bootloaders are also on the manufacturer. With Samsung's mobile division bleeding oodles and gobs of money this year, maybe Samsung will mend their ways.
Samsung's problem is that they went from making 2-3 high quality handsets under one brand (Galaxy)....to making dozens of handsets each with 5+ different unique carrier/region-specific SKUs.

An announcement on the 31st on when Nexus 6? What that it can be pre ordered in March or something and maybe 1,000 available

There are two golden rules you should keep in mind when speaking to ANY type of VZW rep:
1 - they have absolutely no information on the phone, its release or anything else related to it - plain and simple.
2 - they have been instructed to try to keep you on VZW, so anything of a delaying comment that will keep you hanging on while the first rule is in effect works for them, not you.
The phone only has two SKU's - We're going to find that VZ will allow it on the network (because they have to) and they won't sell it.
I said it first, and time will bear it out. I hope I'm incorrect. the only thing that will indicate it is here on VZ is a press release or seeing it on the website by magic, period. Anything else is just pure speculation and wishing.

Well, heres to pure speculation and wishing...:highfive:
But forreal. You suck vzw.

RW-1 said:
There are two golden rules you should keep in mind when speaking to ANY type of VZW rep:
1 - they have absolutely no information on the phone, its release or anything else related to it - plain and simple.
2 - they have been instructed to try to keep you on VZW, so anything of a delaying comment that will keep you hanging on while the first rule is in effect works for them, not you.
The phone only has two SKU's - We're going to find that VZ will allow it on the network (because they have to) and they won't sell it.
I said it first, and time will bear it out. I hope I'm incorrect. the only thing that will indicate it is here on VZ is a press release or seeing it on the website by magic, period. Anything else is just pure speculation and wishing.
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It is extremely unlikely at this point that Verizon will carry this phone in stores. That has been the speculation from the very beginning. Big Red will allow it on its network, but will never sell the device.

anthonyg45157 said:
Well, heres to pure speculation and wishing...:highfive:
But forreal. You suck vzw.
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+ 1000000000

I just talked to my inside business rep and she just found out that it is not being released until February. Pretty pissed!

Winter is coming...
Be ready cuz its coming... The Motorola Droid Turbo 6! It will be full of bloat and skinned in the most obnoxious Motorola overlay. I'm sure it will have all the same specs with maybe a faster processor. It will have 5 different Verizon logos plastered all over it. Of course the bootloader will be locked and we will never see root!... God I love Verizon!

I just had a meditation session with my spiritual king. He let it be known to me that Verizon will release the Nexus 6 in... and then the session ended. I'll try again tomorrow.

The number of people posting their opinions as fact in this thread is hilarious. Nobody knows anything, period.
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Nexus 6 on Verizon
My Motorola bought Nexus 6 works great on Verizon, and with Moto Credit im paying just like you would if you used the "edge" program from VZW... Oh and i didnt have to give Verizon any cut of the sales which is just icing on the cake!

Why wait? Buy one from another carrier, swap Sims.
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We probably wont see any Nexus 6 in stores at all. Nobody has the Nexus 6 locally on any carrier cause its sold out.(I've checked, XMas present.) If Verizon wanted the sales they would have already done it.

When i went into Verizon to get a nano sim for my N6 they didn't even know wtf it is. They're like oh that's not going to work on our network... I had to walk them through what to do to get my device working.

My Theory on why Verizon hasn't released N6

So after doing some research about the whole advanced calling feature I came to a theory that might calm the heat towards them.
Advanced calling 1.0 isn't just something they have to do to the network. VoLTE is already possible in any area Verizon covers with LTE. Unlike other service providers who have been doing this for a while, Verizon is fresh at it. And I believe that the way they enable this function on the Sim is purely software. Not built into the Sim. That's why there are so little phones out there that have it enabled. Because Verizon waits for a software update from the phones manufacturer and implements it into the new software.
So, my theory is that, because the Nexus will be the first phone that Verizon will be selling with lollipop, they will have to work with Google to implement that software into the 5.1 release that should be coming out in February which is why they are planning to release the phone in that time.
Another reason this has to go that way is because its also one of the very few phones that Verizon will be selling that has only one radio and therefore will not have data during a phone call which is one of their biggest selling points and the original reason why I choose them over anyone else 5 years ago.
I think that Verizon just wants this phone to have happy customers and not have a terrible experience like they did with the GNex
Thoughts?

Highly doubt it buddy. The tl;dr is if you want a N6 on VZ you'll probably have to go pony up $650-$699 and get it off GPS or Motorola. Verizon has always been about control,delivering to the user, the experience that they see fit for you to have. That's why they lock all their phones down and instill it with bloatware garbage. Before the FCC mandate I'm pretty sure Verizon blocked all sorts of compatible devices that would work on the network. The only reason why we can even use the N6 on Verizon is because the FCC is forcing them to. I'm sure you read up on the whole 700mhz C block spectrum debacle.
One of two things will probably happen in regards to Verizon selling the Nexus 6. If they are offering it later it will probably come after the newest Droid and Note 4 has had their runs. I highly doubt it has anything to with advanced called as that is just an application and you can make VOLTE calls without it. VOLTE is very limited at this time and will only occur when you call another person with the listed devices. True there could be some propriety garbage that they need to install on the unit to use VOLTE and if that's the case we're back to the Galaxy "Nexus" era. At this point do you really want to get a Nexus that has the VZW tramp stamp? Do you really want to rely on Verizon for certain updates?
As for the second scenario which I feel is more likely to occur. I feel that Verizon will just pass the Nexus 6 as only a small % of people know what it is and want it. Majority of users don't know the differences between devices and manufacturer skins etc. Now if its the contract price you want, nothing else can be said or done about that. But you can always go to Motorola and get financing on the device. Good luck.

They already sell the moto x which is on lollipop so there goes that theory. Next?
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mrgoodpaul said:
Another reason this has to go that way is because its also one of the very few phones that Verizon will be selling that has only one radio and therefore will not have data during a phone call which is one of their biggest selling points and the original reason why I choose them over anyone else 5 years ago.
Thoughts?
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5 years ago you could not do voice/data at same time on Verizon...on most phones you still couldnt 3 years ago...that was a strong selling point and advertised feature that ATT advertised back then...

I don't think you guys are reading the whole thing.

akellar said:
They already sell the moto x which is on lollipop so there goes that theory. Next?
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Motorola had already implemented it in their software on kk. This is the first nexus device in a while

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Motorola had already implemented it in their software on kk. This is the first nexus device in a while
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The Moto X still doesn't have advanced calling or voice/data at same time. No idea what you're talking about.

akellar said:
The Moto X still doesn't have advanced calling or voice/data at same time. No idea what you're talking about.
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Oh, well then your debunking has been debunked. The droid turbo has it but its still on 4.4.4 so I rest my case. They still have to find a way to natively implement it into lollipop.

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So, my theory is that, because the Nexus will be the first phone that Verizon will be selling with lollipop, they will have to work with Google to implement that software into the 5.1 release that should be coming out in February which is why they are planning to release the phone in that time.
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wait... Google announced the 5.1 release? oh that's right, they didn't. all made up by a bunch of "click-bait" hack bloggers looking for increased ad revenue.

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Oh, well then your debunking has been debunked. The droid turbo has it but its still on 4.4.4 so I rest my case. They still have to find a way to natively implement it into lollipop.
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You don't even know what your own argument is. You stated they were holding off releasing it until it had VoLTE/advanced calling. So you're saying they picked just this one device to delay for this reason but were fine releasing a bunch of others without the feature? Yeah that makes total sense.

akellar said:
The Moto X still doesn't have advanced calling or voice/data at same time. No idea what you're talking about.
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akellar said:
You don't even know what your own argument is. You stated they were holding off releasing it until it had VoLTE/advanced calling. So you're saying they picked just this one device to delay for this reason but were fine releasing a bunch of others without the feature? Yeah that makes total sense.
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Name one phone that has been released in the past six months that doesn't have the ac 1.0 either on the way or already on there?

My opinion is it has to do with the data issues people on vz have been having with the nexus6. My guess is they ran into problems, and are working on a resolution before officially releasing it.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
Note 4 is scheduled to get it soon but all the major android devices not on lollipop have it.

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Name one phone that has been released in the past six months that doesn't have the ac 1.0 either on the way or already on there?
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Well I already said the Moto X like 4 times but here's the full list from Verizon that supports advanced calling - Note Edge, Droid Turbo, G3, and iPhone 6. I know there are other older devices (G2, Maxx, etc) that also support it. Link directly from VZ below.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/

Keep in mind this is only a theory. I'm not saying I know the answer. I just came up with it and it made sense to me. To each their own though.

akellar said:
Well I already said the Moto X like 4 times but here's the full list from Verizon that supports advanced calling - Note Edge, Droid Turbo, G3, and iPhone 6. I know there are other older devices (G2, Maxx, etc) that also support it. Link directly from VZ below.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
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My theory is that they are trying to figure out how to implement it natively into lollipop. Since the moto x is running lollipop then this clearly falls under the same page as the nexus

CraigP17 said:
5 years ago you could not do voice/data at same time on Verizon...on most phones you still couldnt 3 years ago...that was a strong selling point and advertised feature that ATT advertised back then...
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You're right about that. The thing that I'm saying is that new phones such as the moto x and the nexus 6 both only have one radio as opposed to the older phones since the iPhone 4 released almost 4 years ago which can in fact use data and phone at the same time only because of the fact that there are 2 radios in the CDMA version
Lucke said:
wait... Google announced the 5.1 release? oh that's right, they didn't. all made up by a bunch of "click-bait" hack bloggers looking for increased ad revenue.
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While I do see where you're coming from with this, I would like to point out that there are still a lot of known bugs and it makes sense that they would come out with a major update to fix all of those bugs, nexus device wide. Whether its 5.1 or 5.0.3 is not the point. Its the fact that there is an update and it should come soon because googles new flagship device has that buggy software on it and it will hurt profits if not fixed
Ive actually talked to some people who told me that the only reason they didn't get the n6 was because they heard there were a lot of bugs.

akellar said:
Well I already said the Moto X like 4 times but here's the full list from Verizon that supports advanced calling - Note Edge, Droid Turbo, G3, and iPhone 6. I know there are other older devices (G2, Maxx, etc) that also support it. Link directly from VZ below.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
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Long list.

My theory is that they want to lock it down, and although they technically could, the user base of this particular model have more of an inclination to tinker than other customers who want a Samsung or HTC.
Maybe Google layath down the hammer and said you can't prevent people from locking boot loader.
In the end I just don't think Verizon cares to own a Nexus

Pretty sure it's to milk every last penny from the Turbo. Also to get as many people to buy other phones out of practical impatience as they can so they have less unlocked bootloaders running on their network. Cause we all know how much they just absolutely LOVE unlocked bootloaders.

Anybody bootloop yet?

I'm getting my V20 tomorrow, and there is someone on Android Central who claims to work at Verizon. He's says they have had 5 returns since launch for bootlooping issues just at his location. I've done a Google search and I'm really not seeing anything about it, but I know LG has had this problem before. Anyone heard/experienced this? I'm not too worried, but I am in Verizon so it had me curious.

Nah, way too soon. Plus this soc runs way cooler then the 808.
And nougat runs buttery smooth.
So far at least. See my post in a month.
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howdyace said:
Nah, way too soon. Plus this soc runs way cooler then the 808.
And nougat runs buttery smooth.
So far at least. See my post in a month.
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I'm also suspecting a little bias from the poster. When I went into the verizon store...they practically BEGGED me to buy a Pixel! Must be some serious incentives for them to sell that phone. And I'm sure the Pixel is nice, but for my own reasons I just don't really like it all that much. I think I'll love the V20, but LG'S reliability track record makes me a but nervous.

Not sure what Google is thinking it's 2016, locking a phone into one provider is literally retarded.
As for the boot loop problem it seems to be a big issue with the g4 and some of the early v10s.
If you want to play it safe I would wait a month or so see if reports come in.
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evo4g63t said:
Not sure what Google is thinking it's 2016, locking a phone into one provider is literally retarded.
As for the boot loop problem it seems to be a big issue with the g4 and some of the early v10s.
If you want to play it safe I would wait a month or so see if reports come in.
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Eh...you only live once..I'm going for it..bootloops be damned! Lo

evo4g63t said:
Not sure what Google is thinking it's 2016, locking a phone into one provider is literally retarded.
As for the boot loop problem it seems to be a big issue with the g4 and some of the early v10s.
If you want to play it safe I would wait a month or so see if reports come in.
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Verizon must have compelled them someway to maintain exclusivity rights... I wonder. The Pixel can be used on other networks. Verizon holds the rights to finance and sell the phone directly. Every other consumer outside of Verizon's network needs to purchase the phone from Google.

motojdm said:
Verizon must have compelled them someway to maintain exclusivity rights... I wonder. The Pixel can be used on other networks. Verizon holds the rights to finance and sell the phone directly. Every other consumer outside of Verizon's network needs to purchase the phone from Google.
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Yeah I know, I've been going to that particular store for years and never seen them push a phone so hard, except when they first got the iPhone