Priv right phone for me ? - BlackBerry Priv

I am thinking of buying a BlackBerry Priv. I am a huge fan the Hardware Keyboard. I have a Lumia 950XL Dual sim and are there any Downsides on the Priv ? How is the Android Update Policy of BlackBerry ? Will it get for example the (current ?) Android 7 ? Bootloader and Root are both not working on the Phone which is a rather bad thing i think. How is the Camera ? This is one of the most important points for me and how is the general Battery Life ?

I'll keep it short.
" I have a Lumia 950XL Dual sim and are there any Downsides on the Priv ?" - No Dual Sim support would be the most obvious. Other than that I'd say the Priv is the better choice because of Android.
"How is the Android Update Policy of BlackBerry ? Will it get for example the (current ?) Android 7 ? " - No Information about Android 7 sadly. But so far we got a new version at least every month because of security patches. (Which also fixes bugs btw. ) So I'd say the update policy is very neat. I am pretty sure that we will get Android 7.
"How is the Camera ?" - There are many reports of bad images in low light environments but I cant confirm that. For me the camera takes crystal clear pictures in any lighting.
"how is the general Battery Life ?" - Battery life is okay. I can get trough a day with massive redditing, youtube and stuff like that. I got no exact numbers for you atm, sorry.
These are just some quick answers to your questions. Maybe someone can write some more detailed answers

.K' said:
I'll keep it short.
" I have a Lumia 950XL Dual sim and are there any Downsides on the Priv ?" - No Dual Sim support would be the most obvious. Other than that I'd say the Priv is the better choice because of Android.
"How is the Android Update Policy of BlackBerry ? Will it get for example the (current ?) Android 7 ? " - No Information about Android 7 sadly. But so far we got a new version at least every month because of security patches. (Which also fixes bugs btw. ) So I'd say the update policy is very neat. I am pretty sure that we will get Android 7.
"How is the Camera ?" - There are many reports of bad images in low light environments but I cant confirm that. For me the camera takes crystal clear pictures in any lighting.
"how is the general Battery Life ?" - Battery life is okay. I can get trough a day with massive redditing, youtube and stuff like that. I got no exact numbers for you atm, sorry.
These are just some quick answers to your questions. Maybe someone can write some more detailed answers
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Thanks. Will the Priv do you guys think the priv will get root ? and i read some are complaining that the app start on the priv is pretty slow. is this true ?

Root is highly unlikely and I dont think we will ever see root for the priv.
App start is as fast as every other modern phone. My sister and her husband got the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge and all 3 Phones take about the same time to open app.
Problem is, that many user-complaints are based on an old android version. Blackberry fixed a lot of performance and heat issues over the months. So as long as you are up to date you should be fine.

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[Q] Planning to buy...

Hi, i have been using WM 6.5 and Android for quite a while (HTC TyTn II and LG Optimus One), i recently decided to try an WP7 phone... so Optimus 7 seems to be a good choice.
I just have one question, how many finger touches does it support?? i cant seem any info regarding this (or any info regarding this on any WP7 phone) other than it simply being listed as 'multi-touch'.
Thanks a lot... and sorry if its a stupid question but i cant seem to find the answer anywhere!!
The screen apparently supports more than 4, but the software is limited to 4 points of contact, and that is what you get with Optimus 7. There are many games in the Marketplace that demonstrate this. I must say, as a Optimus 7 owner, and having tried the other WP7 devices, the Optimus 7 probably has the most ... Optimal touch experience of them all ... HTC ones are far too sensitive.
Screen support up to 10 fingers , I don't have more fingers to try
thanks a lot... guess i will prob go with this phone.. but have to save up for a while..
pachuau86 said:
thanks a lot... guess i will prob go with this phone.. but have to save up for a while..
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I bought it unlocked on ebay for 165 euros!
http://cgi.ebay.de/LG-E900-OPTIMUS-...00625220083?pt=DE_Handy_s&hash=item2eb631e9f3
Wow for that price is incredible even in USD it comes to $238.82 according to Google. The best I could find in the ebay us site was in the $400 and $550 range!
Next time I'm hunting for a phone I'll come here and ask for advice.
Also, pachuau86 if you're planning on saving to buy a new phone why don't you wait for the new Nokia Windows Phone 7? They'll kick the ass of any WP7 to date so you better wait and see what the other brands will bring to the table, its all dual core now baby.
Google Nokia windows Phone 7 since I can't posts links yet due to being a noob.
This is my first wp7 phone and it is really good. Solid to hold and very good build quality. WP7 is very good and will get better with mango. If your in the UK try the expansys website i picked mine up from there brand new sim free for £185.
I don't know about any Nokia WP7s as those are rumoured NOT to be released in North America this year or early next year anyways ...
But ... if you are interested in this phone, I have it on good authority that the same body will receive and update, which includes the latest SoC (1-1.2Ghz from what I heard), as well as a front camera and gyroscope, with a better battery life and screen, called the LG E90X (Note that the 'X' refers to a digit between 5-9 depending on location of release) ...
thanks a lot for the replies... will save up and try to get this phone

[Q] Should I buy a HD2?

Hello! I've currently got an HTC Desire and I'm not that happy with Android. I'm tired of the laggy, inconsistant and boring UI of both Sense and stock Android. I've had an iPod Touch and I've got an iPad and I'm a big fan of iOS, but I want to try something new.
I've been reading about WP7 a lot and it looks very interesting, I've also tried different WP7 phones in stores and I fell in love with the smoothness and consistant Metro UI.
The phone that I'm thinking of at the moment is the HD2, I think that it would be a good choice for me because it is able to run a various number of platforms (I like modding my phone and trying new stuff). So I've got a few questions about the phone:
The phone is almost 2 years old, is it hardware good enough to meet todays and tomorrow's requirements?
How is the screen of the HD2 compared to the Desire's (WVGA, 3,7", AMOLED)? Does multi-touch gestures work well? Is it dual-touch or does it support more than two fingers?
Is Spotify available for WP7 yet?
Are any key features missing in the WP7 port for HD2 (such as camera, headphone jack or WiFi not working?)?
What other platforms than Android, WM 6.5 and WP7 does the HD2 run? I saw that there are sections for Ubuntu and MeeGo here at XDA, are those platforms stable enough for daily use? How well does Android run?
Should I buy a used one or a new one?
How is the battery life?
What are your opinions? Would you buy a HD2 today? Opinions and recommendations about other phones are welcome as well!
Thanks in advance
1. I'd say yes. It might get a little more outdated when two core or even quad core processors roll out. One the other hand, there is no operating system that could use more power than HD2 has.
2. Screen is the weakest part of HD2, AMOLED technology is a lot better in terms of picture quality as well as power saving. I'd say it is just OK.
3. No idea.
4. No idea.
5. HD2 can currently run WM6.5, WP7 and Android - all stable and all working. Meego and Ubuntu are rather proof of concepts and not useful for daily use.
6. Now this is up to you. If you're short of money, go for used one. If you can afford a new one, get a new one.
7. Depends how much you use the phone, what operating system you're running etc. I managed to get about 4 days of standby(stock battery!) on Android with automatic internet connection and mail syncing every 30 minutes and 3G off. I consider it pretty good for a smartphone.
However, the most important thing about this phone is the number of supporters here at XDA. There are hundreds of ROMs to choose from, you can try a new one every day And well, I do not think there are many phones that can multiboot two systems(there are some that can handle different systems, but each change requires reflash).
I am a person who can afford any phone any time. If someone told me that there is a HD2 with amoled screen, quad core cpu and 4 gigs of ram and (it still can multiboot) for $2000, I'd buy it right away. Back to reality - in my opinion there is no better phone out there.
Well, it's hardware is now pretty old compared to most of the phones out there. But it still works I haven't seen any place where I'd be like oh crap I wish I had another phone this is just too slow.. Never.
Screen = Big Let Down. You won't be all that happy with the screen rest assured
Multi-touch works well but not so well in WP7. I believe it is dual touch.
Spotify is available on WP7 last I checked it will take you a spotify wp7 google search.
Meego, Ubuntu not for daily use development has as far as I remember become extremely slow.
Key feature missing in WP7 for HD2 is camera gives green tint when used with flash. And imo camera quality is never as good with android or wp7 than with WM6.5 for hd2.
Take a used one from craigslist. Should be good enough.
Battery life not as good due to the aforementioned screen and 1250 mAh battery.
But, I still personally love my HD2 and won't part with it till the development from this community stops and I honestly believe WP7 would surely work perfect on the HD2 in the near future. Peace
Thanks for the responses! The only thing that makes me doubt atm is the screen.. Really love the blacks on the Desire's AMOLED display, but I guess that I'll get used to the HD2's display.
Anyone done the jump from AMOLED/S-LCD/S-AMOLED to LCD?
Kinda.. My bro has a Galaxy S another has a S2 a friend has Sensation.. So seen many pretty nice screens must admit my hd2 looks pretty sad in front of those displays.. But, when I show them Android CM7, Sense, WP7 and all.. They all say please tell us how to do it
Go get an hd2 it will be the best thing that ever happened to you cell phone wise
I won't make another topic for the same question, so I just reply to this one. I hope it won't call as digging up...
After XDA threads answering 90% of my questions, I still have one:
I will be able to afford an HD2 in March-April 2012. That said, I don't want to end up thinking "Gosh, why did I buy it?" after 3-4 months; is this phone still able to survive another year of support here, at XDA? I don't have enough cash to buy another $400 phone after half a year, so it is quite important.
Thanks in advance.
Schocker1 said:
I won't make another topic for the same question, so I just reply to this one. I hope it won't call as digging up...
After XDA threads answering 90% of my questions, I still have one:
I will be able to afford an HD2 in March-April 2012. That said, I don't want to end up thinking "Gosh, why did I buy it?" after 3-4 months; is this phone still able to survive another year of support here, at XDA? I don't have enough cash to buy another $400 phone after half a year, so it is quite important.
Thanks in advance.
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to be honest, it is a guess at this time. i mean in 6 months from now, there might be some new amazing things on the market. i would just come back and check in 5 months or so. and nicely done, not starting a new thread!
If i were u i wont even think of getting this phone.
Ya in 6 months from not there will be more new stuff out there. So talking of the current market i think compared to other newer phones the HD2 is really good. 4.3 inch display, capability to rum multiple OS's. And it's blazing fast in wp7 and android
BUT...
Just google the number of HD2 users suffering with the same fault it has. I'm a victim of the same and i feel like dashing this crap on the floor. I'm sick and tired of this. Even after performing a mtty still it restarts.
So..
Either u have to be really like others to get a good phone without any faults or you too will be suffering like the rest of the HD2 owners. WHY TAKING THAT CHANCE? IF I WERE YOU I WOULD NOT EVEN IF IT CAN RUN 1000 OS's..
I am really happy with my HD2 & it has been faultless for me on my personal setup WM6.5.x, but if you are likely to be going Android you are better looking at newer devices that are native Android.
Most hardware failures & bugs are on those users running Multi OSs or Nand Droid/W7 .
Thinking of Buying an HD2?
Thinking of Buying an HD2?
Read here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284389
and here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271507
Those of you suffering WP7 restarts/freeze etc, get yourselves a new SD Card. There's plenty of data on this in the WP7 forum.
Thanks for answering, it really means a lot to me.
Ok, time to explain my history (which is a long and complicated one):
I am 15 years old, so I just have to rely on my parents' money. I got my first mobile when I was... 9? Something like that. I remember, how everyone in the school was excited by color screens! And l was proud of having a camera, even though the quality of the photos was pretty bad. But, hey, it was a camera! In the mobile!
In 2007 I got my first "smartphone". It was Nokia 6120 classic with Symbian. But I was scared about losing the warranty, so I didn't do much with it (that is, I didn't "hack" the Symbian, which is still nothing compared to modding Android). Still, I was happy with it for 2 years.
But then comes 2009 and "touchscreen time". God, how the prices of those phones dropped then! I bought a Samsung Corby. Yeah, it was a downgrade from Symbian, but at least I was able to get used to the touchscreen. I sold it in March 2011 for an acceptable price.
And here comes the "smartphone age". I bought my Galaxy Spica in July 2011. I know, probably You haven't heard of this phone, but in Poland and Russia it is quite popular. I bought it simply because of the mods - right now it is considered "The slowest phone ever" on some Polish Android forum, but, guess what? I am happy with it. It is running CM6 right now and is currently lying on my left, charging happily.
If I'm happy - why should I replace it? Well, first of all, the battery got klilled. One day I can go through 8 lessons and the phone will still be at 100%, and next day, without even touching it - bam, drops to 52%. I know, replace the battery and so on, and so on. But it really sometimes makes me mad when I have to do a "battery reset" for the third time, because it won't unlock...
I remember how I was scared before the first root of my Spica... And it went great, start to finish! Everything goes great when You follow the guides, that's what I learned in the past few months. No phone can be compared to HD2 when it comes to modding (at least IMHO), and it gives you the "WOW" factor among your friends, hehe! Nothing better then coming to a group of people showing off their 199$ Android phone and showing them the HD2's dual-boot!
What really made me excited about the HD2 is not only a modders paradise it offers, but also the wonderful support here. Heck, the HD2 Android board has more posts than most other phones section added up! And more, and more posts are coming up everyday. I would really like to have, like, 4 smartphones in my house - Android, iPhone, WP7 and probably another Android... But I just don't have the money for it. (*blames his country for its poor wages*) I do not demand every new version of Android or WP7 being ported to HD2 (because it's just too much), but I'd be happy with, let's say, one-two next major versions of Android and the next major version of WP7.
In one sentence: I definitely enjoy modding everything, I love the big choice of ROMs available here and I just hope the development doesn't stop on Mango and Gingerbread - if it's so: HD2, here I come!
If You really read the whole story (written in a very poor English - sorry, I'm a native Polish speaker), then congrats, and I hope You will be able to answer my question: Will HD2 as a multi-OS phone satisfy my needs, which are not connected to display or dual-core, but tot the software only? And sorry for the chaotic post, I shouldn't have replied in the midnight. ^^
Get one. I broke mine and am currently looking for another HD2. I could go get the new GSII but I don't really want it.
stepthehen said:
Thinking of Buying an HD2?
Read here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284389
and here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271507
Those of you suffering WP7 restarts/freeze etc, get yourselves a new SD Card. There's plenty of data on this in the WP7 forum.
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Ok, that is enough for me, I am going for it... After I get the money of course.
BTW: @stepthehen: I've read the second story before and that's why I asked - if this phone has gone through two years and can mean so much for people...
It is a great phone & if the price is right then still a trenendous bit of kit.
The flip side : if you are not likely to want WM6.5.x or multi-boot & are paying high end price then it is not the best option.
Mister B said:
It is a great phone & if the price is right then still a trenendous bit of kit.
The flip side : if you are not likely to want WM6.5.x or multi-boot & are paying high end price then it is not the best option.
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My mum says it is quite expensive, but, hey! Many phones nowadays have similar, if not worse, specs, but they are being sold with a higher price tag, simply because "they're new".
And I do want the multi-boot and I do want to play with OSes. Actually it's my #1 reason. ^^

[Q] HTC HD2 - Buy? Yes or No?

Hi XMA Forums,
I've got my sights on the old HTC HD2 smartphone which I have been hearing mixed opinions about.
It's the 6.5 version, If I get it it will be from Ebay. 100% Worldwide Unlocked coming from Hong Kong.
The price is: $155 AUD including postage.
Heres the main question. I am going to love this phone but,
Is it going to LAG?​
There are a lot of videos explaining that these phones will start lagging after about a week or so of use.
Will this occur? If so, is there like this one method to fix the problem?
I found an XMA Thread saying this phone is still worthy - http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/htc-hd2-refuses-to-die-now-runs-windows-rt/
Anyway, I really cant be bothered changing it to Andriod, messing around with programs. Whatever . .
Should I go for an earlier HTC "Desire", or a newer HTC "Sensation" ?
It really is the bang for buck that is making me love this phone. It really does look great but I don't want to go through fixing
lag and not being able to even text/call because of it. . .
What is your advice?​
mine didn't lag even after 1 yr+.
sounds like pilot-error to me.
galaxy s 3
I would say no and just get either the galaxy s 3. Nexus 4. Or the htx one x +.
On stock WinMo you won't experience lag but don't expect any apps or games, either. If you want to really use it as a smartphone then flash Android 2.3 or Windows Phone. If you're only going to use it for calls and texts then IMO you're better off getting a cheaper budget device such as one of the billions of Samsung phones out there, or even an old blackberry.
Plenty of apps for WinMo & far far better quality than Android apps in general plus the outlook on WinMo & built in spell check & lack of settings in Android such as vibrate then ring, no speed dial & lack of general custom options shows android still got things to get right.
With Android you need lots of apps as so many OS level functions are missing then you got to put up with all the advertising & forced app permissions.
Put your HD2 on an NRG rom & you won't go far wrong, no lag no freezes & no reboots & no advertising banners all too common on the new craze of Android or IOS platforms.
HD2 is worth buying if price is good & you like WinMo.
I got HD2 on WinMo & also an ICS Android device & WinMo wins at hands on practical professional use & good apps & Android wins at Gaming & stuffing advertising in your face any which way they can.

Huawei Mateb9 pro, do you recommend it?

Hello,
I'm reading for a while about Huawei mate 9 pro and found many reviews and comparisons which are very promising.
I really trust this forum and i became little worried when I couldn't find that many threads about it. So I'm asking people who used this device if they recommend to purchase this phone or not.
Appreciate your advices amd thanks in advance.
Reo0o said:
Hello,
I'm reading for a while about Huawei mate 9 pro and found many reviews and comparisons which are very promising.
I really trust this forum and i became little worried when I couldn't find that many threads about it. So I'm asking people who used this device if they recommend to purchase this phone or not.
Appreciate your advices amd thanks in advance.
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This is just my personal opinion and experience of the phone, im just loving the phone, it has extremely good camera that i use taking photographs in every situations, the low light photos could be better, but i think software updates can improve that part. There has not been any lagging, everything is so smooth and fast, also i havent had any problems with notifications, they work perfectly in every app i use. There are some bugs in the EMUI 5 software like font changing works only in english language etc, but i think those will be fixed in future updates. Battery life in my personal usage has been very good, usually at night time i have 25-30% battery left even i use phone very much during the day, anyway i would personally recommend this phone to anyone because it is very good phone and i just love it.
Yes, best Android experience I've had in a long time. And, I come from a long line of Samsung devices.
Thanks guys.
What about the wifi issues that many people talk about, have you encountered any bug like this?
Zero issues with Wi-Fi here, what issues are you talking about?
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Zero issues with Wi-Fi here, what issues are you talking about?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/mate-9-pro-rom-updates-fixes-t3542204
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/mate-9-pro-rom-updates-fixes-t3542204
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No idea, zero such issues here.
thanks bud
Best android around.
People who are after an Iphone built quality and super Android performance at 20% to 30% cheaper comparatively should go after the Mate 9 Pro .There is no similar package around.Dual sim and 128 GB plus 6 GB RAM are insuring it to be the best Android for the months to come regardless what Samsung will try to promote.That Phone is the best i had.
I also like the phone a lot ,the feature i was looking for most was great battery life on a high end device (had the S7 edge,Oneplus 3T before this one ) the battery life is amazing and this is the only phone that I do note have to charge to top up the battery during the day.
Buy it, no regrets.
that sounds promising
thanks guys for your reviews.
but don't you find it weird that there is no section dedicated for this device till now in the forum?!
Pedometer
zaki67 said:
I also like the phone a lot ,the feature i was looking for most was great battery life on a high end device (had the S7 edge,Oneplus 3T before this one ) the battery life is amazing and this is the only phone that I do note have to charge to top up the battery during the day.
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Hello
Is it possible to disable the pedometer?
I now that I can hide the notification on the lockscreen, but I would like to disable it.
Regards
my only complaint with my M9Pro here in the USA is that i'm still stuck on B124. check for updates through HiCare everyday and nothing. Called Huawei customer service and they say they roll out updates by serial# but I've seen around 2 updates so far that people are on which means that Huawei CS is full of it.
I hate when updates are super delayed. I love the M9Pro but I'm really missing my Nexus 6P because of this one issue. The lack of current security updates and such is nerve racking
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my only complaint with my M9Pro here in the USA is that i'm still stuck on B124. check for updates through HiCare everyday and nothing. Called Huawei customer service and they say they roll out updates by serial# but I've seen around 2 updates so far that people are on which means that Huawei CS is full of it.
I hate when updates are super delayed. I love the M9Pro but I'm really missing my Nexus 6P because of this one issue. The lack of current security updates and such is nerve racking
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Here is the solution
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/mate-9-pro-rom-updates-fixes-t3542204/page5
Install huawei Firmware finder and read the details
Actually that's relieving. I was worried about the updates too.
Do you have any idea if we can root it and if it's safe?
as i remeber rooting marshmallow devices was affecting their performance and disabled certain apps in samsung devices
geokaf said:
Here is the solution
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/mate-9-pro-rom-updates-fixes-t3542204/page5
Install huawei Firmware finder and read the details
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While I do know of this method and appreciate your assistance, the point I was trying to make was that getting updates shouldn't require us to jump through external hoops. The manufacturer needs to make updates more easily accessible and if they know they can't do that because of all the customizations they implement then they should consider just using stock android and build their proprietary apps to be Play Store downloadable and simply put restrictions that limits those apps to be installed on certain phones.
Why not just get the China version, works flawlessly on US networks + you get the updates.
U can delete the fitness app
sorry if this is the wrong place to post this..
I am looking to get the mate 9 pro
Are any of you on Tmobile in the USA, and, do you get 4G/LTE?
The reseller I have been emailing with on Amazon says you do NOT get 4GLTE on Tmobile in the USA with this phone, but I have read that you do.
Thanks if you can help with this! :good::good:

Bad, good or <insert your way of see it> that BlackBerry Priv could not be full-root

Bad, good or <insert your way of see it> that BlackBerry Priv could not be full-root
I got mixed reaction, before submitting myself to the Nexus brand since the Nexus 4, I was practically a BlackBerry fan with many devices and the idea that the same market (forced me) to be introduced to Android.
After all this years trying a good, clean Android experience, I had a big expectations on the Priv and yes, I wanted to see if a root was possible but as a former BlackBerry fan, I know that this is not what the company is (or was?!) for because security was practically their middle name.
I have read some forums besides this one that practically opinions and thoughts are mixed, balanced that people are upset that a complete root was never discovered and BlackBerry followed a cat-vs-mouse game with security updates and to say at least, BlackBerry was the few (not to say the only one) to follow Google's pace on Security Bulletins.
As cases like this happened before or this is one kind of scenario.
Apologies in advanced if this thread kinda sounds like noob and no, I am not trying to stir possible bad taste.
As someone who always felt having the ability to unlock, load a custom bootloader and root my phone was an absolute necessity, I have to say I haven't had the need to do so on my Priv, and I might even be feel better knowing that it isn't quite so easy for somebody to pown my phone thanks to the tight security and ongoing updates. Then again, if somebody did eventually come up with a permanent crack, I'd probably install it.

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