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Will pure AOSP Froyo ROM ever be a reality on Samsung Galaxy S devices?

Im thinking of getting a Epic 4g when they are released but Im very hesitant on this because what I have read about Samsung devices being "locked down". First off I prefer AOSP over touch wiz or sense, and I hoping to see this possible on theses devices someday. From what I have seen this may come down to a driver issue as they are encrypted by Samsung. I also want to use Wifi Tether too. Id like anyone who knows about theses devices to shed some light on this and help me make a decision. I dont understand why manufactures feel they need to put crap onto of Android when is more usable with out it. I just wish Samsung they just gave us the option of either roms.

WhiteWidows said:
Im thinking of getting a Epic 4g when they are released but Im very hesitant on this because what I have read about Samsung devices being "locked down". First off I prefer AOSP over touch wiz or sense, and I hoping to see this possible on theses devices someday. From what I have seen this may come down to a driver issue as they are encrypted by Samsung. I also want to use Wifi Tether too. Id like anyone who knows about theses devices to shed some light on this and help me make a decision. I dont understand why manufactures feel they need to put crap onto of Android when is more usable with out it. I just wish Samsung they just gave us the option of either roms.
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you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html

jodue said:
you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html
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This contradicts what I read elsewhere for the better Ill see if I can locate where I read this at, If this is the case why is there no custom roms besides Cyanogenmod? Where is a AOSP roms at? Or is the device just that new nothing is out yet? If this is true Ill be getting the Epic over the Evo

Wifi tether comes with the device, and I have to say I haven't had any problems with its use so far
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While trying this and putting my N1 aside, I'm surprised how much I'm missing FroYo
Any devs that would care to comment on the possibility of a FroYo port for the SGS?

jodue said:
you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html
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sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.

riz157 said:
sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.
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What nonsense

I'm a little confused about the situation with ROMs myself, coming from the Windows Mobile world. If the entire source to the build of Android on the Galaxy S is available, surely it's possible to change anything, theoretically? It also seems that the bootloader has no or negligible security as to what it can flash.
On the other hand, I've seen claims that it would be impossible to get Froyo or any future Android updates if Samsung don't release them first (I know they've committed to Froyo). Unless the driver model changes dramatically in Froyo, which I doubt since then new drivers would be required for every phone, why would it be any more difficult to port newer versions of Android to the Galaxy S than any other phone?

riz157 said:
sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.
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Why do you say this? I purchased mine today and so far am very satisfied with
the phone.

Just testing xda app.
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you must be mistaken there mate
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No, it's just that there are different components and layers which can be considered open or "locked down", and you both use different ones.
The bootloader for the samsung galaxy is not locked.
But there is an argument by the XDA forum member psychoace that some of the drivers for the galaxy S were not open sourced, and that in earlier android devices from samsung this made it very hard to create ROMs which are not based on Samsung's own ROMs.
As far as I know, this argument from psychoace was never countered, and so I see no reason not to believe it. (I did not look over the sources myself yet).
So can someone port new versions of Android over to the Galaxy S after Samsung has abandoned the device? I really don't know, but I wouldn't count on it, until someone who has experience with making custom ROMs says it is realistic.

The reason I state this is because other then the graphics, video playback, camera there is not much to shout about this device. The lagging is awful, it can't cope with multi tasking compared to say aswell the desire. The issue with the keyboard lagging. Internet crashing for no apparent reason. It seems as the samy gs cant handle the goodies packed into this device. No trackball, flash or led which is very useful.
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riz157 said:
The reason I state this is because other then the graphics, video playback, camera there is not much to shout about this device. The lagging is awful, it can't cope with multi tasking compared to say aswell the desire. The issue with the keyboard lagging. Internet crashing for no apparent reason. It seems as the samy gs cant handle the goodies packed into this device. No trackball, flash or led which is very useful.
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as far as i understand it, the lagging issues are just because of the touchwiz and especially the samsung-widgets. removing the widgets and replacing the luncher with luncher-pro/adw will be the first thing i do when i have the device in my hands. on the other side: the hardware of the galaxy s is very good in my opinion!
@bookwormat:
i think you are wrong! i have read in some forums that samsung has released the drivers for 2.1 together with all other code! in fact i am just pulling the code (including the full kernel) from the samsung open source center (http://opensource.samsung.com/). it's huge, 148MB ... when it's finished i will give it a look an confirm what's in there and what not.

You might just want to take into consideration the fact that the Nexus and Desire had some problems as well right after launch.
The nexus took some time ( a couple of months) to set things straight, the Desire- A couple of weeks only. But it's understandable, since it's 95% identical to the nexus, so HTC probably knew what is going to be problematic.
Also, you're taking things to major extremes. You make it sound like the device is catastrophically slow to the level of being unuseable, and crashes every 2 minutes.
Reality, well, is different. The longest lag i had personally is 1.5 seconds when loading asphalt 5. Every other lag when opening an app- less than half a second.
I'd also like you to refrain from stating one personal problem as a bug in the device, you are the only known member in this forum that is having trouble with the keyboard.
A little search in MoDaCo forums reveals that some users are reporting slight problems with the keyboard, but it's limited to Firmware JG01 only.
It's sad that instead of taking a moment to see if you can solve these problems or helping others find a solution, you preffer to bash the device in every occasion.

For some reason Riz is really down on his SGS and to such an extent that it seems he's got a grudge against the device. Sell it or trade it in if it really makes you that unhappy.
For me it's really an awesome phone that comes with some minor annoyances that seem entirely caused by the fact that it's brand new. So far it appears that Samsung is putting a lot of effort in maturing the software and I expect the issues to be solved within a matter of weeks. In all reality it would take about 10 minutes to setup a new phone and have it operate well without even upgrading any firmware. A simple switch to launcherpro followed by a root with update.zip and then installing autokiller (i use strict profile) will solve 99% of the lag problems.
Battery life is very good after the first initial cycles.
GPS doesn't work right you may all ***** about that.
I'm sure I would be happy with the new HTC's, or even the iphone 4 (the thought of buying into apple's nasty attitude does make me cringe a bit) but I would still choose the SGS again providing they fix the gps.

Perhaps I'm being over critical but there are serious flaws with this device, there is no denying this.
GPS not working - there doesn't seem to be a solution, can't use copilot or googlemaps.
Lagging/freezing - changed to launcher pro not as bad but still occurs.
I hope the boys at samy are working hard to find fixes for these problems. If there are solutions then please guide me to them.
Don't get me wrong this device has potential and there alot of good features but due to issues mentioned above it just ruins the users experience.
I paid good money for this device not so that I could put it down but to use it. I'm just stating my experience for the benefit of others who maybe considering to buy this device.
If there are solutions wonderful p

dakine said:
For some reason Riz is really down on his SGS and to such an extent that it seems he's got a grudge against the device. Sell it or trade it in if it really makes you that unhappy.
In all reality it would take about 10 minutes to setup a new phone and have it operate well without even upgrading any firmware. A simple switch to launcherpro followed by a root with update.zip and then installing autokiller (i use strict profile) will solve 99% of the lag problems.
Okay - could you please give me link to guide on rooting.
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I really dont uderstand all this gps not working talk.I use co pilot a lot and its extremely accurate and keeps lock in all weathers.Googe maps works indoors to within a house or so and out side gets me within 15 feet or so.I did have gps issues initially until I flashed firmware and factory reset.My i8910 hd had better gps but that was an exeptional phone for gps

Okay - could you please give me link to guide on rooting.
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Download the update.zip file from this thread.
Or direct link here
Copy the file to the internal storage card of the phone using Kies or whatever method you like.
Disconnect the usb cable
Turn off the phone
Press and hold these buttons at the same time: volume up+home+power, keep them pressed until you see the samsung logo.
Use volume rocker to navigate to update.zip and then press home to select.
Phone will reboot and you are now rooted with superuser.
The whole process takes less than 5 minutes.
I'm not responsible for anything

I like the phone but there are problems
1.keyboard has dup presses... solved with HTC keyboard. Also l key in portrait mode doesn't always work.
2. Gps lock not as good or reliable as my I 8910
3. StallING.. fix fixed it the only program that has a lag to load is sygic.
4. Image resizing not working well in gallery and web.
5. Still doesn't always switch back to 3g from edge. Jg1 is better than previous.
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Letv One S1 Pro X800 Review!

Hey guys, I may look like a new guy on the xda forums with this nickname but I've been around for quite a while.
I have used Letv Le 1 Pro X800 for quite some time and have finally made a video review on my Youtube channel:
Mod Edit: Link removed.
I hope you enjoy it and it will be useful for making a decision to buy it or not.
Thanks

Letv One 4G LTE Android 5.0 3GB 64GB smartphone Unboxing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWbLEZXXqvI

Thanks for the great review.
It looks to be one of the better, if not the best designed and executed Chinese phones.
But it also looks like you get what you pay for, particularly for those outside of China. Looking at the discussion about LETV's cheaper sibling, it appears that there are too many issues, some troubling, like the GPS accuracy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/letv-one-x600-s1-hands-antutu-camera-t3130033
Add to this a not-outstanding camera, update hassles, lack of US LTE bands and likely non-existent support outside of China, and the couple of hundred dollar savings over a flagship from LG, Samsung or Apple don't look like such a bargain.
I am happy to see well-designed Chinese phones, but it will probably take a year or two more before they become real players among the established flagships.

any review or forum about Letv One pro. I wanna know some tips about this phone. (root....)

s2cruxs2 said:
any review or forum about Letv One pro. I wanna know some tips about this phone. (root....)
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There seems to be a root method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/guide-twrp-root-gapps-letv-s1-pro-t3150782

GUGUITOMTG4 said:
There seems to be a root method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/guide-twrp-root-gapps-letv-s1-pro-t3150782
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Thanks you
Still 3 more weeks until that phone come to me

Here you will find my X800 custom firmware ☺
http://www.androidiani.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6985389
Inviato dal mio NX505J utilizzando Tapatalk

Hope xda-developer port other rom for Letv 1 pro (X800). Stock rom seems very boring.

Hi folks. I need help.. My alarm sound goes on mute every night automatically since couple of days. I didn't activate that and in the phone settings is nothing to help this issue,not even the sound profiles. Anyone has an idea? Thanx
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cimoblas said:
Hi folks. I need help.. My alarm sound goes on mute every night automatically since couple of days. I didn't activate that and in the phone settings is nothing to help this issue,not even the sound profiles. Anyone has an idea? Thanx
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You can update new rom to fix it, maybe something wrong with the button on uperleft of your phone.

Actually I thought it was the TFS launcher that was causing this issue, so I deleted it.. But the problem persists. My phone has no other ROM installed and is up to date.
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hi, i bought 2 letv one pro but it seems that they are 2 different models. One is x800 and the other one is x800+ . Whats the differenz?

Hi,
I have one question.
Letv x800 get the optical or laser focus on camera ? Thks
Edit: i want to know the camera's quality of the mobile

thongstele said:
You can update new rom to fix it, maybe something wrong with the button on uperleft of your phone.
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Hello I just have this phone two days, do you find a- Software Update - in the settings.

X800+
Hi Guys,
I have been using my letv x800+ for a week now. Nicely designed and a nice rom but with a few crashes now and then.
Cant use Music app since it crashes every time i launch it. Battery time is horrible, dont know if its because of a lot of background processes running? Would it help to root and get rid of some of the bloatware? Any suggestions....ANY?
I get app. 8-10 hours of normal use from my phone !! My previous Meizu MX4 lasted way longer
Im running the latest update from Letv and google play was preinstalled when i bought from SPEMALL
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TechlineHD said:
Hey guys, I may look like a new guy on the xda forums with this nickname but I've been around for quite a while.
I have used Letv Le 1 Pro X800 for quite some time and have finally made a video review on my Youtube channel:
I hope you enjoy it and it will be useful for making a decision to buy it or not.
Thanks
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Sorry for asking, but why are you promoting this phone so massively ? I saw you on youtube, here, on gizmochina and on gizchina ?
I bought the letv x800+ and the battery time is horrible... I get 10 hours of normal use from it, and im running stock EUI latest update.
Furthermore there are problems with wifi connectivity, did you try that ?

Just curious what's your general verdict of this phone? I'm very close to click buy so I get to see it for myself but I'm a bit afraid for the software. If it's to poorly optimised the monster specs and great price of the phone doesn't really matter... So what's the worst problem you have encountered and is it worth a shot? Live in Germany so got all the mayor phones here but I really like the design and the price is like half of other phones with same specs, I'm a cheap bastard and I can't help it

bikestealer1 said:
Just curious what's your general verdict of this phone? I'm very close to click buy so I get to see it for myself but I'm a bit afraid for the software. If it's to poorly optimised the monster specs and great price of the phone doesn't really matter... So what's the worst problem you have encountered and is it worth a shot? Live in Germany so got all the mayor phones here but I really like the design and the price is like half of other phones with same specs, I'm a cheap bastard and I can't help it
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X800 is a great device after some modifications: With cucuo ROM you will have German translation + Google apps.
Got mine shipped to Germany from honorbuy for 300 Euro, but price wasn't the main factor for me. Build quality is great and this is overall a very capable device if you can live without LTE band 20 and NFC.

mike49 said:
X800 is a great device after some modifications: With cucuo ROM you will have German translation + Google apps.
Got mine shipped to Germany from honorbuy for 300 Euro, but price wasn't the main factor for me. Build quality is great and this is overall a very capable device if you can live without LTE band 20 and NFC.
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Is cucuo necessary? I don't really need translation, english will work. My plan was just to root it and get rid of all the bloatware and then install another launcher but maybe I should rethink. I thought that because the company is pretty new on the smartphone market the software won't be perfect and it would be good to stay on original rom so you get to updates and fixes as fast as possible, if they come...

bikestealer1 said:
Is cucuo necessary? I don't really need translation, english will work. My plan was just to root it and get rid of all the bloatware and then install another launcher but maybe I should rethink. I thought that because the company is pretty new on the smartphone market the software won't be perfect and it would be good to stay on original rom so you get to updates and fixes as fast as possible, if they come...
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Of course it is not really neccessary but it makes things easier as this is already rooted and debloated. As I have no annoying bugs with current cucuo ROM release (been using my X800 for over 1 week as daily driver now) I can recommend this ROM.
Also it seems that cucuo will release new versions based on stable releases, so the upgrade path is not lost.

Would you mind sharing a couple of things abput your experience with the phone? How is the battery life and camera quality? And is the phone overheating or lagging?

Just bought a Mate 8

Gold L29 - yay!
OK, I'm an Android phone snob. Chronic flasher, thought I'd only buy Nexus devices. Pixel XL not good enough for me. As much of a Google fan I am, that device is not an upgrade and looks like an iPhone. I'm keeping my Nexus 6, have Verizon grandfathered unlimited data, the Mate 8 will be a new play phone for me and wanted something flashy (LOL) with a BIG screen. I bought a pretty crystal butterfly grip/stand which will look so cool with the gold. Looks like a great device.
Was waiting for the Mate 9, but couldn't wait any more and seems the 9 isn't a huge upgrade from the 8. Processor looks better but I think I'll be happy with the 8, then wait for the 10 hoping that they make a little improvement with the screen resolution (I know it's not a huge difference to the eye, but still...).
I'm excited to unlock and root this thing, looks like the guides are pretty strong. Reading a lot on the ROM/tool options. Haven't unlocked bootloader on a device or rooted for 2 years since my N6....should be interesting. Not a large amount of development but I think I'll be happy here and will have a new hobby.

Welcome aboard!

Welcome to Huawei Mate 8 club
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Gold L29 - yay!
OK, I'm an Android phone snob. Chronic flasher, thought I'd only buy Nexus devices. Pixel XL not good enough for me. As much of a Google fan I am, that device is not an upgrade and looks like an iPhone. I'm keeping my Nexus 6, have Verizon grandfathered unlimited data, the Mate 8 will be a new play phone for me and wanted something flashy (LOL) with a BIG screen. I bought a pretty crystal butterfly grip/stand which will look so cool with the gold. Looks like a great device.
Was waiting for the Mate 9, but couldn't wait any more and seems the 9 isn't a huge upgrade from the 8. Processor looks better but I think I'll be happy with the 8, then wait for the 10 hoping that they make a little improvement with the screen resolution (I know it's not a huge difference to the eye, but still...).
I'm excited to unlock and root this thing, looks like the guides are pretty strong. Reading a lot on the ROM/tool options. Haven't unlocked bootloader on a device or rooted for 2 years since my N6....should be interesting. Not a large amount of development but I think I'll be happy here and will have a new hobby.
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Hi,
I can sense the happiness in your writing I feel the same too. Just purchased Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 few days back. As soon I received my phone, I updated it to Android Nougat and the results are outstanding.
Phone is so much better. Battery life is fantastic. I already crossed 10 hour mark (screen on time) twice so far easily. Features are all working. I was bit sad not to find "double tap to wake up" by default even though I found few apps on google play store which fulfill this requirement. I was pleasantly surprised to find Call recording available even without root. Fingerprint feature is new for me, my previous phones didn't have it so I am really enjoying this feature. Camera is good too. Overall, Huawei did a brilliant job with this phone. There are so many reasons to smile with this phone. It is perfect in every way.
Huawei Mate 9 seems to have a better processor, GPU and camera. At the moment, it is expensive for me but I hope I am able to purchase it in coming months . I love Android phones, tablets and high performance laptops. I used to flash a lot with Samsung phones and tablets few earlier but I reduced it significantly over the years. And at the moment I am just having loads of fun with Mate 8 with Nougat I am sure you will have plenty of fun too once you update to Nougat. I highly recommend updating to Nougat to everyone. It is really awesome on this phone.
Cheers!
Sam

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Hi,
I can sense the happiness in your writing I feel the same too. Just purchased Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 few days back. As soon I received my phone, I updated it to Android Nougat and the results are outstanding.
Phone is so much better. Battery life is fantastic. I already crossed 10 hour mark (screen on time) twice so far easily. Features are all working. I was bit sad not to find "double tap to wake up" by default even though I found few apps on google play store which fulfill this requirement. I was pleasantly surprised to find Call recording available even without root. Fingerprint feature is new for me, my previous phones didn't have it so I am really enjoying this feature. Camera is good too. Overall, Huawei did a brilliant job with this phone. There are so many reasons to smile with this phone. It is perfect in every way.
Huawei Mate 9 seems to have a better processor, GPU and camera. At the moment, it is expensive for me but I hope I am able to purchase it in coming months . I love Android phones, tablets and high performance laptops. I used to flash a lot with Samsung phones and tablets few earlier but I reduced it significantly over the years. And at the moment I am just having loads of fun with Mate 8 with Nougat I am sure you will have plenty of fun too once you update to Nougat. I highly recommend updating to Nougat to everyone. It is really awesome on this phone.
Cheers!
Sam
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Thanks Sam - I'l take a look at Nougat update. I won't get it until Monday so I'll just keep reading until then! Super excited.

Just got my Mate 8! Ready to mod the hell out of it! [goes back to reading forum].
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Samavb said:
Hi,
I can sense the happiness in your writing I feel the same too. Just purchased Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 few days back. As soon I received my phone, I updated it to Android Nougat and the results are outstanding.
Phone is so much better. Battery life is fantastic. I already crossed 10 hour mark (screen on time) twice so far easily. Features are all working. I was bit sad not to find "double tap to wake up" by default even though I found few apps on google play store which fulfill this requirement. I was pleasantly surprised to find Call recording available even without root. Fingerprint feature is new for me, my previous phones didn't have it so I am really enjoying this feature. Camera is good too. Overall, Huawei did a brilliant job with this phone. There are so many reasons to smile with this phone. It is perfect in every way.
Huawei Mate 9 seems to have a better processor, GPU and camera. At the moment, it is expensive for me but I hope I am able to purchase it in coming months . I love Android phones, tablets and high performance laptops. I used to flash a lot with Samsung phones and tablets few earlier but I reduced it significantly over the years. And at the moment I am just having loads of fun with Mate 8 with Nougat I am sure you will have plenty of fun too once you update to Nougat. I highly recommend updating to Nougat to everyone. It is really awesome on this phone.
Cheers!
Sam
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There is B562 for NXT-L29C432? I have B520 but has too many bugs

Thestarki said:
There is B562 for NXT-L29C432? I have B520 but has too many bugs
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Hi,
You are right. There are bugs.
I have NXT-AL10 there are two more updates after B562. B573 and B575. They are slightly ok. I don't know what is the equivalent version of that for your model L29.But you might find minor improvements in the updates.
Can you take a screenshot of settings-> account e-mail>"add account" page?
Thanks,
Cheers,
Sam

So I spent several hours today with my Mate 8 unlocking bootloader and rooting. It was a little tricky, primarily with drivers issues - every device is different with unlocking/rooting. The whole DC unlocker and reading bootloader code - what fun!
So now I have a Mate 8 with unlocked bootloader and rooted...now what to do? Now I'm researching the different ROM options, nougat, etc. It still seems tricky with the encryption thing and the builds/versions thing and isn't as straight forward!
Back...to the boards.... LOL.
Love the device -- glad I got this thing.

just bought one a few hours ago today. replaced my (absolutely ****e battery life) 6P guess I know which board I will be on all night long tonight

hanifh said:
just bought one a few hours ago today. replaced my (absolutely ****e battery life) 6P guess I know which board I will be on all night long tonight
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If you're going to unlock and root it, give a shout if you run into any problems. I made it through but a few hiccups along the way.
Now the decision is what ROM to do!!!

It can get a bit tough especially with the bootloader code stuff. I recently did it myself and flashed it to L29c636b211 from c636b320 both stock and its running incredibly smooth and fast. Battery life is very solid as well.

hanifh said:
just bought one a few hours ago today. replaced my (absolutely ****e battery life) 6P guess I know which board I will be on all night long tonight
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sharkonland said:
It can get a bit tough especially with the bootloader code stuff. I recently did it myself and flashed it to L29c636b211 from c636b320 both stock and its running incredibly smooth and fast. Battery life is very solid as well.
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Feel so embarrassed, the part on the bootloader code reading that got me what I thought I was all set when clicking Unlock OEM in developers settings and thought I didn't need to call in to change to manufacturer mode, but after a couple hours I realized I needed to do that! I'm glad though that I didn't wait the 14 days to get the code - seriously my impatience is worse than the $4.
If anyone has opinions on what ROM to flash please share. After the unlocking and rooting I'm ok with setting with a rooted stock Mate 8, but I'll get restless soon..... LOL.

darbylonia said:
Feel so embarrassed, the part on the bootloader code reading that got me what I thought I was all set when clicking Unlock OEM in developers settings and thought I didn't need to call in to change to manufacturer mode, but after a couple hours I realized I needed to do that! I'm glad though that I didn't wait the 14 days to get the code - seriously my impatience is worse than the $4.
If anyone has opinions on what ROM to flash please share. After the unlocking and rooting I'm ok with setting with a rooted stock Mate 8, but I'll get restless soon..... LOL.
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i don't know why but i just got a feeling that you are flashoholic just like me, i was ok with stock rooted rom, but i needed to try something else, to change things a bit, so i had to flash nougat, and after that i found my self wanting to root, and i did it, so i am on rooted nougat Rom, i am so glad i did it, but still want more Lol

RomyRodriguez said:
i don't know why but i just got a feeling that you are flashoholic just like me, i was ok with stock rooted rom, but i needed to try something else, to change things a bit, so i had to flash nougat, and after that i found my self wanting to root, and i did it, so i am on rooted nougat Rom, i am so glad i did it, but still want more Lol
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How did you get to nougat ROM? I am on l29. I am not clear how to get to any ROM given encryption and different builds and what you have to flash back to. Lol.

darbylonia said:
How did you get to nougat ROM? I am on l29. I am not clear how to get to any ROM given encryption and different builds and what you have to flash back to. Lol.
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well i'm on L09 but the diference is just the model files everything else must be identical, the steps i followed are the following: 1- install twrp in your current emui version which i guess in your case should be 4.0 2- download the nougat Rom and the data file for your model and put it on your sd card 3-flash the rom first and then the data file (so far you are still encrypted but as you are using the sd card to flash the files then twrp is able to see them) 4- after you flash both of the files you will boot to nougat and can complete the initial settup process 5- now to get root (optional) you can flash twrp for nougat using fastboot and then the recommended supersu, the thread to do that is located somewhere in the development forum if i am not mistaken.... i know it was quite lenghthy but those are the steps i followed.

RomyRodriguez said:
well i'm on L09 but the diference is just the model files everything else must be identical, the steps i followed are the following: 1- install twrp in your current emui version which i guess in your case should be 4.0 2- download the nougat Rom and the data file for your model and put it on your sd card 3-flash the rom first and then the data file (so far you are still encrypted but as you are using the sd card to flash the files then twrp is able to see them) 4- after you flash both of the files you will boot to nougat and can complete the initial settup process 5- now to get root (optional) you can flash twrp for nougat using fastboot and then the recommended supersu, the thread to do that is located somewhere in the development forum if i am not mistaken.... i know it was quite lenghthy but those are the steps i followed.
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Thanks - very helpful! Helps me to understand the steps better.
I'm still reading about the ROM options - KangVIP, Twisted, Nougat...to see what I want to try first. :silly:

Keep us posted on what rom you try. Im also looking into nougat roms but have read so far they are not fully stable yet. My current rom, b211, runs perfect for me so i dont want to run into issues with essentially beta builds.

A few questions about the phone

Hi,
My questions are:
1 - Does any variant of the phone have NFC?
2 - I read that some people have issues with their GPS? Is that a manufacturing defect and only present in random units?
3 - Does anybody know how to reflash stock ROM for harpia? Because somebody might want to reflash stock ROM for some reason (not restore from TWRP backup), but wouldn't know how. I don't own the phone yet, but I am planning on buying it, so a guide would be useful to be made if somebody knows how to do it and is willing to make one as a seperate thread
Thanks in advance!

if you looking to buy, please wait for g5 play.

lazydesi said:
if you looking to buy, please wait for g5 play.
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Why though? I think the G4 play is a great phone, not gonna use it for things like heavy gaming after all.

lazydesi said:
if you looking to buy, please wait for g5 play.
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Why? What differences will there be?

proudlytm said:
Why though? I think the G4 play is a great phone, not gonna use it for things like heavy gaming after all.
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screen will be 1080p
sd 430 chip
releases with nougat ( may get android O support)
will come with updated gps

I can quick whip up a guide soon on how to restore to the stock rom, I've done it several times before. Also, one perk to potentially waiting for the G5 to be released is it might drop the price of the G4 Play a small bit making it a better deal. Also most light casual gaming is very smooth, things such as Alto's Adventure, Dots, etc. I personally recommend it, mainly due to seeing how development is starting to pick up nicely (big thanks to all the debs too). Heck, the 2013 Falcon model of the Moto G is still getting a decent bit of Nougat roms, and it launched with Jellybean on it when I owned one

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I can quick whip up a guide soon on how to restore to the stock rom, I've done it several times before. Also, one perk to potentially waiting for the G5 to be released is it might drop the price of the G4 Play a small bit making it a better deal. Also most light casual gaming is very smooth, things such as Alto's Adventure, Dots, etc. I personally recommend it, mainly due to seeing how development is starting to pick up nicely (big thanks to all the debs too). Heck, the 2013 Falcon model of the Moto G is still getting a decent bit of Nougat roms, and it launched with Jellybean on it when I owned one
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That's great! :good:
About the price dropping of G4, that doesn't really bother me, because I just want to buy the phone ASAP to stop using my old replacement phone! I also like the fact that the phone has official Lineage ROM status
I've watched some videos of gaming on the phone and the frame rates look high enough! :good:
Do you have any information about the GPS problem some people are complaining about? Do you have any personal experience with it?

proudlytm said:
That's great! :good:
About the price dropping of G4, that doesn't really bother me, because I just want to buy the phone ASAP to stop using my old replacement phone! I also like the fact that the phone has official Lineage ROM status
I've watched some videos of gaming on the phone and the frame rates look high enough! :good:
Do you have any information about the GPS problem some people are complaining about? Do you have any personal experience with it?
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Just got the guide completed, here's the link for anyone who wants it. Make sure you don't get the Amazon or Verizon variant because currently I don't think there are any methods of unlocking the bootloader right now. I don't have an problems with my GPS signal, it seems there must just be the occasional bad unit.

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Do you have any information about the GPS problem some people are complaining about? Do you have any personal experience with it?
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A lot of phones are shipping with GLONASS disabled on the GPS chip. That's why the GPS sucks outright. This is Lenovo's problem and they themselves have no idea how to fix it. So far, I've only heard of a Moto G5 and G5 Plus (no play edition), but if Lenovo makes the same mistake, they'll run the entire product line into the ground.

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A lot of phones are shipping with GLONASS disabled on the GPS chip. That's why the GPS sucks outright. This is Lenovo's problem and they themselves have no idea how to fix it. So far, I've only heard of a Moto G5 and G5 Plus (no play edition), but if Lenovo makes the same mistake, they'll run the entire product line into the ground.
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I see.. Well, hope I don't happen on such unit..

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Just got the guide completed, here's the link for anyone who wants it. Make sure you don't get the Amazon or Verizon variant because currently I don't think there are any methods of unlocking the bootloader right now. I don't have an problems with my GPS signal, it seems there must just be the occasional bad unit.
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Thank you so much for this. I really haven't been hesitant in the past but with this phone I'm a bit worried to dive right in.. This should definitely help out.

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Just got the guide completed, here's the link for anyone who wants it. Make sure you don't get the Amazon or Verizon variant because currently I don't think there are any methods of unlocking the bootloader right now. I don't have an problems with my GPS signal, it seems there must just be the occasional bad unit.
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Yes now I think I have got a bad unit. 15 days are over and now I know Amazon will refuse to replace. Though I would go for replacement of the gps device. I am facing some serious problems with it.

OnePlus Security: Think Before You Buy

So, OnePlus is going to release a new phone! People are excited and have forgotten about everything bad that happen with the previous devices. The PR machine started publishing "amazing" photos from the 5T camera (they did the same with the not-that-good OP5) and everyone is ready to open their wallets.
I just wanted to remind everyone about OnePlus privacy and security "mistakes", something that is usually ignored by the fancy YouTube reviewers and android related websites. This week we have a new security issue:
OnePlus Accidentally Pre-Installed an App that acts as a Backdoor to Root Access
Last month we learned that OxygenOS is Allegedly Data-mining Personally Identifiable Information for Analytics... And back in February someone discovered a bootloader issue that worked as a backdoor.
These days we use our phones for more than simple voice calls. We use apps that have access to important parts of our lives (banking, social networks, IoT, etc) and store a lot of information on our phones.
Security is important and it should be taken into consideration when buying a new phone.

I think most people here go out of their way to unlock their bootloader and root anyways.
So I'm pretty sure this topic in general here is pointless.
Nonetheless it is a valid point, though its not that meaningful here.

If you are really worried about security you'd go with a blackberry out a pixel

@Expliciate What I've seen with the 3/3T is that while many users use custom ROMs and are not affected by OOS issues, others just unlock their bootloader and use root, but stay on stock OOS or OOS beta.
I agree with you... the people that should be warned about these issues will not read this thread. Anyway, if we are aware of the problem maybe we will think twice before buying, suggesting or using Oneplus hardware or software.
@worldsoutro You don't have to be "really worried" about security to understand that something is wrong when people keep finding security holes on Oneplus software.

Three points keep me from jumping on board
No new snapdragon
Fingerprint sensor on the back
And finally ...what about jelly?
My two cents

I am wondering if anyone knows about any vulnerabilities/backdoors in the phone, outside of the Oxygen OS, such as in the aboot, sbl, etc.
Oxygen OS can be done away with, albeit by the power users.

This kind of app must be preinstalled on all devices by Google !!
Without root Android phone is useless for me, I would better to use nokia 3310 instead than.
I hope oneplus will rewrite this app and keep it for all generation of their phones.

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You don't have to be "really worried" about security to understand that something is wrong when people keep finding security holes on Oneplus software.
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I actually prefer people finding/reporting bugs with OnePlus caring for resolving the mentioned issues to people not finding/reporting bugs and/or a company which ignores them.

x111 said:
This kind of app must be preinstalled on all devices by Google !!
Without root Android phone is useless for me, I would better to use nokia 3310 instead than.
I hope oneplus will rewrite this app and keep it for all generation of their phones.
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My phone is rooted, it's one of the first things I do when I buy a new phone, but let's not turn another security fu** up into a good thing.
Oneplus devices are not just for "nerds" anymore. In the UK, for example, a network (O2) sell their phones just like they sell iPhones and Galaxys. They advertise on newspapers, trains, etc. Normal users, that use their phones for many things, don't know what TWRP or a custom ROM is. This is an issue.
By the way, the guy who found this app keeps posting new stuff on twitter: https://twitter.com/fs0c131y/status/930773795656396801

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I actually prefer people finding/reporting bugs with OnePlus caring for resolving the mentioned issues to people not finding/reporting bugs and/or a company which ignores them.
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And I agree, no software is bug free or completely secure and we all benefit when bugs are found and fixed.
The problem here is that some of these issues should never be there in the first place. Looking at the security holes from the past 2 years, it's clear to me that software is one of OnePlus weak points. For example, the bootloader problem that was fixed earlier this year was an amateur mistake... either that or they don't even know it could be an issue.
And it's not like people are not trying to find issues on Google's new Pixel or on Samsung's flagships... there's even a big market for that! But it's harder to find issues because these companies have people that know what they are doing.
I think something is wrong when using an aftermarket ROM is safer than using OxygenOS. We should be aware of these issues when buying something from them.

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And I agree, no software is bug free or completely secure and we all benefit when bugs are found and fixed.
The problem here is that some of these issues should never be there in the first place. Looking at the security holes from the past 2 years, it's clear to me that software is one of OnePlus weak points. For example, the bootloader problem that was fixed earlier this year was an amateur mistake... either that or they don't even know it could be an issue.
And it's not like people are not trying to find issues on Google's new Pixel or on Samsung's flagships... there's even a big market for that! But it's harder to find issues because these companies have people that know what they are doing.
I think something is wrong when using an aftermarket ROM is safer than using OxygenOS. We should be aware of these issues when buying something from them.
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While I can see a use for this you have to keep something in mind. All devices sold from China based companies will always have something like this. Mainly die to the laws requiring monitoring software to be installed. This comes from their right to monitor everything their citzens do on line and with their mobile devices. It is part of the reason most China OEM are not allowed in places with high security needs.

Actually....I think Oxygen OS is ONEPLUS's biggest differentiator.
And it's excellent.
It's fast, it's smooth, no-one does updates better.
They will have to double down on security but nobody does software like ONEPLUS.

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It's fast, it's smooth, no-one does updates better.
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"Fast and smooth" are two of the major gains of Android 7. Even my old(ish) LG is still adequately fast and smooth. :good:

kolembo said:
Actually....I think Oxygen OS is ONEPLUS's biggest differentiator.
And it's excellent.
It's fast, it's smooth, no-one does updates better.
They will have to double down on security but nobody does software like ONEPLUS.
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That is open for debate. I personally think it is one of the worst available. If you really think it is fast and fluid you should try an aosp based rom.

How do the Slim ROMs perform on OnePlus?

zelendel said:
While I can see a use for this you have to keep something in mind. All devices sold from China based companies will always have something like this. Mainly die to the laws requiring monitoring software to be installed. This comes from their right to monitor everything their citzens do on line and with their mobile devices. It is part of the reason most China OEM are not allowed in places with high security needs.
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So, all these issues are related to OOS. Is it likely to be present in custom ROMs too as they too use kernel codes released by Oneplus? Thinking of buying OP 5T.

unos21 said:
So, all these issues are related to OOS. Is it likely to be present in custom ROMs too as they too use kernel codes released by Oneplus? Thinking of buying OP 5T.
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Not all issues are OS related. For example, the bootloader issue from Feb 2017 couldn't be fixed with a custom ROM.
Things like analytics and shady apps are not present on very well know custom ROMs not based on OxygenOS (LineageOS, OmniROM, Paranoid Android, etc), but keep in mind that the camera quality will never be as good as stock.

unos21 said:
So, all these issues are related to OOS. Is it likely to be present in custom ROMs too as they too use kernel codes released by Oneplus? Thinking of buying OP 5T.
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Yes but most of the code is not kernel related. Very little of it is. It is in the format of "services" and hidden apks like the last one found.

Not gonna lie, I purchased a OnePlus One because of the development community. I usually flash a different ROM straight away.
I bought a OnePlus 5 hoping that would be the same situation. It's not. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad, but it's not like my Nexus phone.
The OnePlus 5T? My understanding is that until the 21st of November, there is a media embargo. After that, there will be more information about the device.
I'll make a decision after that.

ToucanSam said:
My understanding is that until the 21st of November, there is a media embargo.
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Depends on how usual the reviewer models are.