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Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
I look the phone and performance but honestly at this point I will probably get drawed until so of these can get fixed, I am going to stick it out and see if I can get used to it, but its been 9 hours now and not fond the "ergo"
Let me know if you have ideas, solutions or are willing to make an app hehehhe
Hahaha, I think I like every function you mentioned. To each his own I suppose...
My only problem (if it can really be called a problem) is with the push the top power button to wake the phone. It feels awkward to me. I wonder if the unlock function can be remapped to the trackball?
Yeah to each his own, the Iphone button to wake (which would be similar to trackball) can easily be done with the index/thumb hold the power button requires a cradling and sadly its difficult to contort my hand that way.
The app drawer, i dont know, i was much faster to scroll in before and the new 3d thing has a bounce back (ie it locks to 4x4 icons never halfway at top) throws off the quick flick and click for me at least.
I would love the left most home screen to just be the dialer screen flicking with thumb across screen is easier then finding icon and clicking for me at least
MMMV lol but i think others may like these things too
david, me too, actually that's my only "major" issue the rest were nits i had to pick.
lol also, the new app thing is jolting to the user experience, the rest of the home is swipe, swipe down for notifications, swipe sideways for home screens then click for apps. its weird, maybe i was only one that dragged the old draw up and down instead of clicking the tab....
The real problem with the top button is its lack of feedback. It doesn't "click". Still works though
1. I gotta admit... I don't like where the power button is. I usually hold the phone with my left hand while I use my right to swipe or press. The power button is right where I would normally hold on to the top of the phone. Its taking a conscience effort to change the way I hold it, so eventually it won't be a big deal.
2. I also agree about the homescreen. I use handcent, and if I am on the home screen when I recieve a popup, I can't turn the phone to landscape to use the bigger keyboard to post a quick reply. That is frustrating to me.
3. The button works fine for me. I kinda like it.
4. I don't care either way for a widget that lets you dial. I mean, hitting the phone button seems to work pretty well for me ( I haven't used an Iphone to know what you mean by this).
Overall, the speed is more then enough to make up for any shortcomings. The power button issue is one that has actually really bothered me. The oversaturation of colors, especially on apps like The Weather Channel has slightly bothered me. Other then that, I really like the dialer on the phone. As much as I liked wysie's contacts, the new dialer is freakin great. But I can't really complain. Its been a nice phone to have so far. Really nice. I just wish the Polar live wallpaper actually worked.
You will always be able to nitpick, but right now I'm sort of reveling in the fact that I now own the best phone the world. I didn't like the iPhone this much when I got it around launch.
maybe a 1x2 icon for dialer like the same icon from the dial pad the big green phone as a widget? lol
zendick said:
Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
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A lock screen is a requirement for me, so the only difference here is that I find the position of the "wake up" button on top a little awkward for 1-handed use.
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Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
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Couldn't agree more - never did get why the home app disobeys this setting when most others do it. I'm sure Cyan will rescue us!
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Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
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Yeah, this is a BIG beef for me. I find the new app menu klunky as all get out. The label text on several rows of my menu are overlapping/corrupt, and I find it realyl tricky to scroll to the end of the menu quickly due to the way it "snaps" onto rows. Again, I hope Cyan'd firmware will revert this to sanity.
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Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
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I don't use widgets, but I for one don't miss the phone buttons. Why should the phone app get preferential treatment with it's own hardkeys. *
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* Yes, yes, I know the smarta$$ answer is "because it's a phone".
well i did a little messing around with remapping keys and wasn't able to cut my phone off, but i did make my power button into a trackball pressed button lmao.
right now, from the way it is looking, there is not an incredibly easy to make the trackball pressed (DPAD_CENTER) wake the phone up without sacrificing a fair amount of usability I will try and play with it some more later.
The files I was changing were both in /system/usr/keylayout/
mahimahi-keypad.kl and
qwerty.kl
I had to make changes to each of the 2 for it to stick. Maybe someone can take this info and run with it. I also had to reboot after pushing the files for it to take place.
The only thing that really bothers me is that one has to remove the battery to remove the SD card.
That is unlike all the other Android phones I know of. (T-mobile anyway.)
dont flame me but the top button to wake up and the slide to unlock puts me back to feeling like an iphone, and i had one for so long this feels comfortable to me
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dont flame me but the top button to wake up and the slide to unlock puts me back to feeling like an iphone, and i had one for so long this feels comfortable to me
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Never had an iphone, but I rather like the setup. Assures me that I'm not wasting battery life with it on in my pocket. If the touchscreen woke up on press, sure it might not unlock but it'll still be lighting up all the time.
On earlier hardware, other than the END button (which I suppose became the sleep/wake button), you could press menu (which would take you to the lock-combination screen, or the home screen if you didn't have a lock-combo) and the back button would also serve to wake the phone, you still had to use the END button to sleep.
Has any of you tested if menu or back will wake the phone?
they are touch sensitive on the nexus, so they are definitely a no-go
zendick said:
Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
I look the phone and performance but honestly at this point I will probably get drawed until so of these can get fixed, I am going to stick it out and see if I can get used to it, but its been 9 hours now and not fond the "ergo"
Let me know if you have ideas, solutions or are willing to make an app hehehhe
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If you don't like the phone then why did you buy it?
jubeh said:
On earlier hardware, other than the END button (which I suppose became the sleep/wake button), you could press menu (which would take you to the lock-combination screen, or the home screen if you didn't have a lock-combo) and the back button would also serve to wake the phone, you still had to use the END button to sleep.
Has any of you tested if menu or back will wake the phone?
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they are touch sensitive on the nexus, so they are definitely a no-go
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I can confirm this does not work as well.
zendick said:
Power button to wake up then slide to unlock, this is horrible, not intuitive and actually very difficult for me to do in my good hand (left, m righty) and near impossible to do in right hand. Man i miss MT3G duoble click menu, anyone know if I can set A double trackball click? (putting it to sleep sucks too, hope the "proximity sensor" works)
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I sort of agree that the power button placement is awkward but I like the slide to unlock screen to help avoid pocket dials. It would be nice if there was an option to turn it off for those who are bothered by it.
zendick said:
Second complaint (existed with MT3g before cyan) home screen no landscape
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shrug
zendick said:
Third (lol) I miss the app drawer
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I really prefer the new app drawer. Different tastes I guess.
zendick said:
Fourth (man I know) can we get a full screen (home screen) widget that is phone dialer a la iphone so I can quick swipe to it since there is no phone button.
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That is actually a good idea.
Is there someway to set hardkey for taking picture for example volume key up? It would be lot easier to use camera.
good idea!!
I'm curious about this too. Although I use custom ROMs (freyberry), I try to reassign buttons via the settings menu, but NO buttons appear in the list, so can't be reassigned. Odd.
that would be great, hope someone to find a way!
I'd like this too, but don't expect a positive response. If we wanted to assign one hard button to a different one then I could believe that happening. But it's not a button that you want to emulate - it's touch on the screen, and that's a completely different thing. I think it would mean hacking the actual camera app to get what you're asking.
Fingers crossed that I'm wrong
somebody managed to do it on the iphone, so hopefully they can do it on this!
variskarhu said:
Is there someway to set hardkey for taking picture for example volume key up? It would be lot easier to use camera.
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It's a good idea - but I don't really miss a hardware camera button too much. Would love it if the volume keys could be remapped in the camera application to act as zoom in/out instead. The current zoom in/out process is a real pain.
bennyhillslovechild said:
The current zoom in/out process is a real pain.
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Isn't it digital zoom?
Why bother?
Taking photo of myself requires so much effort without the hard key!!
Hope someone can come out with something for this.
Anyone tried AEBPlus?
I am looking for the same .. its tough to take pics when you have a greasy hand
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Taking photo of myself requires so much effort without the hard key!!
Hope someone can come out with something for this.
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Not such a crazy request - just out on holiday at the moment and as usual I often snap quick shots of my wife and I in front of the major sites - the best way around this is to put the phone in self timer mode. 10 seconds is best i found as it gives enough time allow the camera to autofocus when moving it into position.
Daniel
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Good idea.......
would be a very nice mod.
+1 on this, much needed maybe there could be a setting to say what the lock buton does, either locks the screen, or takes picture...
renegadedj said:
+1 on this, much needed maybe there could be a setting to say what the lock buton does, either locks the screen, or takes picture...
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i was thinking the same thing since the first time i picked up the phone i thought the lock button would be on top and that the actual lock button was the camera button haha. but yeah i think itd be awesome to disable it when the camera is in use...and if we could disable the stupid low battery warning when the cam is in use too....we've got a notification led fix in the works already, a recovery image is being worked on, some devs are planning on porting CM6 to this phone, GPS and compass i believe are fixed for those who had problems with them, nightmode works a treat, so all we need are those 2 mods and i think the vibrant will be perfect...well for me anyway but im sure many would agree lol.
Even the lock/power button would be perfect.
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Even the lock/power button would be perfect.
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i added another idea to the first post. check it out.
uber bump! any devs considering this idea?
would this get more attention if i posted this in the development section as a think tank?
would really appreciate something like this. bump
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would really appreciate something like this. bump
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i wonder if the cm6 port would incorporate it...idk why samsung didnt include a camera button, then again im surprised how they squeezed so many features and tons of horsepower into this light little thing in the first place haha
+1 this would be a great add-on
I agree. This would be excellent!
can someone with twitter send this to wesgarner? i would but i dont have a twitter and i dont think he checks these forums very often.
This should definitely be possible, since in the video player, the lock/power doesn't lock the screen - it just disables the touch screen - so that touching the screen doesn't do anything like causing the control buttons to appear. This proves that the button itself is programmable based on the app.
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This should definitely be possible, since in the video player, the lock/power doesn't lock the screen - it just disables the touch screen - so that touching the screen doesn't do anything like causing the control buttons to appear. This proves that the button itself is programmable based on the app.
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wow thats neat i never noticed that! i'm sure its possible we just need somebody with the know-how to implement it. also, i think i mentioned this before, but since on the g1 devs were able to add a reboot option (which btw would be cool if we did that here too) i was thinking there should be a camera option in the menu to launch the camera app. and if we could remove the stupid camera/video disabler when low battery comes on, thatd be awesome too. i'm sure once a custom rom comes along these things could be implemented but we gotta grab a devs attention first.
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This should definitely be possible, since in the video player, the lock/power doesn't lock the screen - it just disables the touch screen - so that touching the screen doesn't do anything like causing the control buttons to appear. This proves that the button itself is programmable based on the app.
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The camera app does this too.
I'm hoping that someone has picked up on this and that it is in the works, I hope that it's doable.
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Hey guys, just a heads up...I'm trying to get used to this Note Edge (from Note 3). One thing I didn't like immediately was the power button on top, but here's a fix. Add the app called "Screen Off and Lock"... Next, edit one of your edge screens to add the lock button icon (as seen in picture below). Now you have a side lock button again. It works slick!
Good job man! I was looking for an app like this. I agree that the top button is one of my least favorite features of the phone. But this should solve that.
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Good idea.
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Awesome. Just installed it. Some much better than the power button on top. Thanks!!
hahaha we think alike! I did the same thing. One of the first things I installed was Fix Broken Power Button. I had this on my GS3 because the power button was broken and constantly turning the phone off. I cracked the phone open and scraped the button off completely off. I installed this to send the phone to standby. Crappy part was when I needed to turn the phone on after swapping out a battery I couldn't. I had to plug into a power source then hold vol down and the home button in order to power the phone up. So without a usb and a power source, I was out of luck. Oh well.. got a new phone now so no more of dealing with that!
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Hey guys, just a heads up...I'm trying to get used to this Note Edge (from Note 3). One thing I didn't like immediately was the power button on top, but here's a fix. Add the app called "Screen Off and Lock"... Next, edit one of your edge screens to add the lock button icon (as seen in picture below). Now you have a side lock button again. It works slick!
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Good use of the Edge screen. Another FYI: f anyone has Nova Prime launcher you can use Screen Off and Lock with it. Under Gestures and Buttons, then choose double tap for screen off. I don't know if it will work with Nova Free. I had purchased the launcher long before i had use for the double tap. Still waiting for a double tap for screen on like the LG G3. :fingers-crossed:
We are currently working on making a multi power feature for the edge screen. Swipe or knock to turn on/off, because it is killing me not to have a feature like this for that edge panel!
That's actually a pretty handy tip. I like the animations, as well. Back when I had my HTC Evo 4G rooted, I used the TV turn-off animation. Pretty neat to have that back.
Yep, no problem guys! As soon as I figured it out I knew I had to post it ASAP. It was the my biggest complaint turned into a handy feature! (being able to move the power button up or down on the edge screen to a comfortable spot)
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Good use of the Edge screen. Another FYI: f anyone has Nova Prime launcher you can use Screen Off and Lock with it. Under Gestures and Buttons, then choose double tap for screen off. I don't know if it will work with Nova Free. I had purchased the launcher long before i had use for the double tap. Still waiting for a double tap for screen on like the LG G3. :fingers-crossed:
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Try this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tecnology.angs.knockr
Thank you for the quick solution, that helps so much.
panjaby said:
Try this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tecnology.angs.knockr
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It works really well. I'm going to use it while out tomorrow to see if it drains the battery faster. Thanks!
Thank God you posted this. The power button location was my one and only complaint, bit this fixes it.
Still wish they put the button underneath the volume keys though.
There is another app that does the same,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.t_igra.swipelock.free
Use the gravity app.... It's unbelievable. ...
terryYew said:
Good use of the Edge screen. Another FYI: f anyone has Nova Prime launcher you can use Screen Off and Lock with it. Under Gestures and Buttons, then choose double tap for screen off. I don't know if it will work with Nova Free. I had purchased the launcher long before i had use for the double tap. Still waiting for a double tap for screen on like the LG G3. :fingers-crossed:
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I have nova prime in my edge and it does not have that option. I know I've seen it on my other phones. Not sure what is going on
Just installed it couple hours ago. Way better than pressing the top bottom. :good:
MSK1 said:
Use the gravity app.... It's unbelievable. ...
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What is the Gravity app?
CreekDirt said:
What is the Gravity app?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexnor.gravityscreenofffree
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexnor.gravityscreenofffree
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Omg thank you, thus naked me miss root just a little less.
Hi everyone, I was wondering if it were possible to hide seeing my face when using the iris scanner, I think it would look more neat.
I know you can activate the iris scanner as soon as you wake up the phone but I set the home button to automatically unlock (since I use smart lock and that makes it very convenient) so when I press the home button it'll instantly go to the unlock screen where the front cam is activated.
OK I guess I could use the power button instead but I was wondering if there's a way with the home button. Thanks!
Mine is intermittent as to when it does show the camera view. Most of the time it will just come up with a line of text saying look here for iris scanning and I'm never quite sure where I'm supposed to actually be looking.
degsyh said:
Mine is intermittent as to when it does show the camera view. Most of the time it will just come up with a line of text saying look here for iris scanning and I'm never quite sure where I'm supposed to actually be looking.
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You should be watching towards the top of the screen near the grid, you should do this even before turning the screen on and it's faster and more accurate
If you look at the red light left hand corner it's unlocks instantly
Yeah its not too bad, i wear glasses so is a bit of a pain sometimes it works through them most of time it doesn't. I might try and get used to doing that "guess where the fingerprint scanner is without putting your finger all over the camera lense" manoeuvre.
I meant why does it *sometimes* come up with the camera viewfinder - does yours *always* come up with the camera viewfinder?
It shows the camera when the unlock isn't instant, or this is what I noticed, just wanted to hide that for a sleeker look
JohnPyn said:
It shows the camera when the unlock isn't instant, or this is what I noticed, just wanted to hide that for a sleeker look
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Not an answer but an option. You can go into Settings>Lock screen and security>Iris Scanner>Preview screen mask
There's some goofy masks but maybe there is one that might preset a "sleeker" look for you.
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Not an answer but an option. You can go into Settings>Lock screen and security>Iris Scanner>Preview screen mask
There's some goofy masks but maybe there is one that might preset a "sleeker" look for you.
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Yep I know about that, that makes everything even worse imo Ahah the main problem to the "sleeker look" is that the camera is super low res, I don't know just feel it's useless but u guess there's no way to get rid of it
I got exactly same question !
That things is pure ugly in term of design and aesthetic, LoL
Hopefully someone can found a way to permanently hide that visual
To unlock your S8 or S8+ with your iris without seeing the camera preview go to:
Settings => Lock screen and security => Iris Scanner
... and turn on the very last option called "Iris unlock when screen turns on".
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To unlock your S8 or S8+ with your iris without seeing the camera preview go to:
Settings => Lock screen and security => Iris Scanner
... and turn on the very last option called "Iris unlock when screen turns on".
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Thank you,
But we already know and use that option indeed.
But sometimes, we want to jnlock the phone on the table, when its not facing our face, thus we slide up the lock screen,
And then, bam, those ugly visual appear above the PIN number pad. LoL
Sure it has nothing wrong with the function. We just simply hate how it "broke" our beautiful lockscreen layout
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Thank you,
But we already know and use that option indeed.
But sometimes, we want to jnlock the phone on the table, when its not facing our face, thus we slide up the lock screen,
And then, bam, those ugly visual appear above the PIN number pad. LoL
Sure it has nothing wrong with the function. We just simply hate how it "broke" our beautiful lockscreen layout
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LOOOL, I'm sorry but that made me laugh. I guess we'll have to wait for a tweak.
otonieru said:
Thank you,
But we already know and use that option indeed.
But sometimes, we want to jnlock the phone on the table, when its not facing our face, thus we slide up the lock screen,
And then, bam, those ugly visual appear above the PIN number pad. LoL
Sure it has nothing wrong with the function. We just simply hate how it "broke" our beautiful lockscreen layout
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You can trigger the iris scanner again by clicking the text on the top center instead of swiping, this will not show the guidance visual.
I found the best way to mitigate this is to do two things.
1. Enable the toggle for "iris unlock when screen turns on" under lockscreen>iris scanner
2. Disable the toggle for "Unlock with home button" under setting>display>navigation bar
It's still not perfect but I'm at 90% success rate and it's far faster than fingerprint debacle. I figure when you press the home screen without option 2, phone triggers instant to unlock. With it unchecked it pauses so you can look at notifications.
Should default this way imo.
By golly you are right!
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If you look at the red light left hand corner it's unlocks instantly
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I know this is an old thread but I just would like to thank you for this tip! I always look at the line of text to unlock my phone and it sometimes doesn't do the trick. But looking at the red dot hasn't failed me yet!!! And it's almost instantaneous! Thanks for this tip.