I'd like to use CM12.1 (marshmallow) but I realize there still are no stable release? Why? Is it not good enough yet?
I've had a pretty bad experience with CM on my old Galaxy S4 so I'm a little afraid to remove the stock recovery and ROM from my Moto X Play. I want to make sure that it's bug free (or as buggy as stock) and suitable for day use. In other words I want to flash it and know it's fully reliable. Given the fact that there are only nightly releases, are they reliable enough for this?
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Prosis said:
I'd like to use CM12.1 (marshmallow) but I realize there still are no stable release? Why? Is it not good enough yet?
I've had a pretty bad experience with CM on my old Galaxy S4 so I'm a little afraid to remove the stock recovery and ROM from my Moto X Play. I want to make sure that it's bug free (or as buggy as stock) and suitable for day use. In other words I want to flash it and know it's fully reliable. Given the fact that there are only nightly releases, are they reliable enough for this?
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I can't vouch for the latest releases, as my xplay has been broken for like 3 months now, but being a nightly doesn't inherently make it unstable. Stable builds are usually relabeled nightlies. I say give it a shot. You can always go back to stock if you don't like it, unless you're speaking about voiding warranty
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I can't vouch for the latest releases, as my xplay has been broken for like 3 months now, but being a nightly doesn't inherently make it unstable. Stable builds are usually relabeled nightlies. I say give it a shot. You can always go back to stock if you don't like it, unless you're speaking about voiding warranty
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Oh! I thought nightlies were unstable releases. So before yours broke, you had a good experience? No problem with camera or other stuff?
It's not really a question of warranty but rather just not having any issues when I need it to work. For instance, with my Galaxy S4, the camera kept crashing while I was out with my kids so I lost time trying to make it work when I wanted to take a picture. That's the kind of thing I wouldn't want happening just because I got another ROM.
Indeed I did (have a good experience). If you're every unsure of a nightly, head to the thread. You'll usually find one or several people commenting if it's no good.
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Indeed I did. If you're every unsure of a nightly, head to the thread. You'll usually find one or several people commenting if it's no good.
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Yeah I had a look (I just realized I was talking about CM13 not 12.1) but given there are now 205 pages I thought I'd ask about the nightly situation in a different thread.
I think I may try it and restore it from the ROM available in the forum.
Oh and I keep wondering, given Motorola never actually released the ROM, how can someone make it available?
I m using nightly for like 3 months ......and I can say nightly is far better than stock if you are looking for customization and speed. I recently tried to go back to stock 6.0.1 but that experience is so "LAGGY" that I again return back to CM.I can say that CM nightly build working best for me with my requirements(like gaming and also photography and editing and HEAVY Customization and many more ) . and about custom recovery,it's a must have tool I suggest as with that I can return back to my previous builds. SO i recommend to go for NEW CM build,but in the end it's upto you.
and if u r still fearing about NIGHTLIES then flash the custom recovery(twrp) and then make backup of whole stock system and then do whatever U want to.
Btw this is the wrong forum to discuss things
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anks095 said:
I m using nightly for like 3 months ......and I can say nightly is far better than stock if you are looking for customization and speed. I recently tried to go back to stock 6.0.1 but that experience is so "LAGGY" that I again return back to CM.I can say that CM nightly build working best for me with my requirements(like gaming and also photography and editing and HEAVY Customization and many more ) . and about custom recovery,it's a must have tool I suggest as with that I can return back to my previous builds. SO i recommend to go for NEW CM build,but in the end it's upto you.
and if u r still fearing about NIGHTLIES then flash the custom recovery(twrp) and then make backup of whole stock system and then do whatever U want to.
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Oh nice idea. I think That's what I'm gonna do, thanks!
Benjamin_L said:
Btw this is the wrong forum to discuss things
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Is it? I apologize then. Even if I want to talk about CM I should use the General Help forum?
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Oh nice idea. I think That's what I'm gonna do, thanks!
Is it? I apologize then. Even if I want to talk about CM I should use the General Help forum?
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Original development is for devs posting their work usually
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What is the consensus on the CM12 nightly builds?
Is anybody using them?
I just got my 9506 and all I really want out of a rom is the stock look, like Nexus or GPE, which CM provides.
Arters version of Temasek CM12 is much better then official cm12
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Arters version of Temasek CM12 is much better then official cm12
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What are the main differences? Is it suitable for use as a daily driver?
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What are the main differences? Is it suitable for use as a daily driver?
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If you are hard gamer, I recommend you to use official CM12. I've tested both and seems like theres serious graphical issues in arters cm12. But both are good for daily use, battery life is little bit worse in arter cm12. Theres not much differencies.
The consensus is that Temasek rom built by @arter97 is the BEST rom for our device, even better than touchwiz rom, and of course better than official cm builds.
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The consensus is that Temasek rom built by @arter97 is the BEST rom for our device, even better than touchwiz rom, and of course better than official cm builds.
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I do not agree the official cm12 by the time will be better because of it's easier to handle, flash and has OTA update.
Can someone please explain what the main differences/goals are between the three major ROMS are? (official cm12, solk2, and arter97/temasek) Looking around the forum, I can't seem to find anything closer than "X is better than Y" and "The difference is in tuning" and other vague things like that
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I do not agree the official cm12 by the time will be better because of it's easier to handle, flash and has OTA update.
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Yeah and they have better support to rom. I mean they update it every day etc..
Arters rom is based on temasek moded version of CM12 - it does include a bit more than the barebone CM12. It is rock solid and by far good enough to be a daily driver. I found it to be great with games (as a reply to another post here). Played Star Wars Kotor on it for hours, it ran perfectly and did not get hot.
The "official" CM12 I have not tried, but it seems to be lagging a lot behind arter. They had, or still have?, problems with wifi/mobile nettwork and other stuff. Does not seem to be a daily driver yet.
I just don't get why you guyz think that easy flashing and faster releases is a positive feature in terms of rom stability.
I'm quite happy with updates arter releases, they are stable and battery friendly, besides it have all goodies from temasek rom.
Don't wanna be a flashaholic!
I don't want to be a flashaholic either. Maybe when official gets a snapshot version, or milestone, but that may never happen looking at the history.
I was using CM11 on the previous 9505 but everything changed with Lollipop.
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I don't want to be a flashaholic either. Maybe when official gets a snapshot version, or milestone, but that may never happen looking at the history.
I was using CM11 on the previous 9505 but everything changed with Lollipop.
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I was looking very skeptic when it was available, but I was amazed how stable and fast it was.
Started with v1, I`m using arters build and had ZERO accidental restart, (FC, camera can`t connect and etc... ) or any bug that affects daily usage. I came from M12 i9300 CM11.
Does casting work? Moving apps to SD?
Casting works fine with Chromecast. Accessible from quick pulldown panel.
Move 2 sd is broken, it`s CM bug.
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Casting works fine with Chromecast. Accessible from quick pulldown panel.
Move 2 sd is broken, it`s CM bug.
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Gotcha, the rom I was using with the 9505 did not have cast working and SD moving was also broken.
For me official cm12 is the best and always up to date. I tried mokeedev, arter, solk and back to official
I think I will try official cm12 when there is a at least a snapshot build.
What's broken in it at the moment, anything? What camera do you use?
I update daily with last nightly. For my usages nothing's broken. Very stable. I use Google camera.
Do you have a chrome cast? Can you connect to it?
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Do you have a chrome cast? Can you connect to it?
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Yes I have one. No problem to use it
Hello guys,
i'm looking for the most stable and fastest rom with the best battery life.
I would like to hear your opinions.
im currently on cloduyg2 3.3 and its batter life is poor on my d802 and it stuck.
in addition, if you suggest using a rom can you plz shortly explain what should i do to install it from cloduyg2 3.3?
thank you very much.
sorry if there was a similiar post, i couldn't find it.
Battery life depends mostly on the kernel used
Give dorimanx kernel a try
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i tried him, it didnt help and besides im sick of the lg ui
you could try the latest official cm12.1 nightlys
i used them like 3 days and didnt have any issues (that couldnt be solved)
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you could try the latest official cm12.1 nightlys
i used them like 3 days and didnt have any issues (that couldnt be solved)
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is there a final cm 12 which has 5.0 ?
i rather have a bit older rom but stable, i want one that i can flash and that's it .
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is there a final cm 12 which has 5.0 ?
i rather have a bit older rom but stable, i want one that i can flash and that's it .
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Just stick with stock then. Cm/aosp is for ppl who want to spent time with android i guess
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Just stick with stock then. Cm/aosp is for ppl who want to spent time with android i guess
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ty for your answer, the thing is that i dont mind messing with it its just i hate install a rom with a serious problem
that's i asked for opinions about the most stablerom
im wondering which is better, paranoid android or cm12, can someone explain?
This is probably a dumb question..
But is it possible to flash the system.img from stock over a CM 13 rom and keep user data? Or a combination of the various IMG files?
I'm just having a lot of instability issues with the nightlies and don't want to have to download the 35gb of music again now that I'm on 2mbs internet :crying:
I had gone completely stock including relocking boot loader - agree - non stock ROMS are less stable.
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This is probably a dumb question..
But is it possible to flash the system.img from stock over a CM 13 rom? Or a combination of the various IMG files?
I'm just having a lot of instability issues with the nightlies and don't want to have to download the 35gb of music again now that I'm on 2mbs internet :crying:
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Appears I may have found the answer in this excellent guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
I am wondering if anyone can confirm if Google Music would still have all it's downloaded music? Or would flashing write over that, as they are protected/hidden/encrypted files?
Best guess
Going back stock will make it factory fresh
I.e. Bye bye downloads
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Maybe don't use the nightlies and just use a more stable ROM? Your problem seems to be with nightlies being too unstable, well, that's the name of the game with nightlies. Maybe go for one of the other ROMs in the forum that offer much more stability? Won't be stock-stable but it will be pretty stable...
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Maybe don't use the nightlies and just use a more stable ROM? Your problem seems to be with nightlies being too unstable, well, that's the name of the game with nightlies. Maybe go for one of the other ROMs in the forum that offer much more stability? Won't be stock-stable but it will be pretty stable...
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You're probably right. I'm just a little surprised that the Redmi Note 3's unoffical version of CM 13 was 10x more stable than the unlocked Google Nexus phone. Not blaming anyone or thinking I am owed anything. I just assumed since it ran so well on the RN3 that it should be near perfect on the N6P.
Any ROMS you reccomend that? Any reason not to just go stock+root+xposed?
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You're probably right. I'm just a little surprised that the Redmi Note 3's unoffical version of CM 13 was 10x more stable than the unlocked Google Nexus phone. Not blaming anyone or thinking I am owed anything. I just assumed since it ran so well on the RN3 that it should be near perfect on the N6P.
Any ROMS you reccomend that? Any reason not to just go stock+root+xposed?
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AFAIK last CM snapshot (release) for 6p was in April.
If you want a stable ROM for 6p, choose one that is based on AOSP and not to heavily modified.
I've been using Pure Nexus ROM for awhile now and I find it very stable, if you find a bug and report it correctly, the dev is sure to try his best to fix it.
He also releases an update every month at least to include the security patches.
Stock ROMs can have bugs too and sometimes fixed in custom ROMs, they're usually more optimized too
+1 for pure nexus rom and xposed
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Hi all,
Have been using the 1+5 since launch day, bought this beast at midnight on launch day and since then it's just amazed me....but I've been stuck picking a ROM due to the encryption decryption worry, I'm currently decrypted on xXx
What ROM are you using and why?
Not looking for the best, just for the points of why one over another.
Cheers.
Hi!
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What do the other ROMs offer over OOS? If anything? Easier theming?
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Different ROMs are build above different sources -- OOS, AOSP, LineageOS... -- and contain various modifications -- theming options, kernel tweaking, features ported from other devices, ability to streamline the system experience, stellar stability or release-early-release-often, etc. Every ROM is different, though at some point they offer more of less similar features -- eck, it's all Android at the core! Still, they represent what their devs feel is important for a joyful experience. Read the first post of a topic, you should have a general idea of what you get.
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Hi!
Different ROMs are build above different sources -- OOS, AOSP, LineageOS... -- and contain various modifications -- theming options, kernel tweaking, features ported from other devices, ability to streamline the system experience, stellar stability or release-early-release-often, etc. Every ROM is different, though at some point they offer more of less similar features -- eck, it's all Android at the core! Still, they represent what their devs feel is important for a joyful experience. Read the first post of a topic, you should have a general idea of what you get.
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Thanks, maybe I didn't explain it enough, what I meant was what do you use and prefer and why?
What features sell you the ROM of your choice over others.
I think you can see by the amount of phones I've had that I've seen quite a few.
What are you using at the moment and why?
Benefit over OOS?
I've always been in love with Codename Phoenix, and I still am. I flashed everything there is out there, and every kernel. My conclusion: either OOS, or Phoenix. All the others either have some bugs or annoying problems. I choose Phoenix over OOS because it is just as smooth if not even smoother & faster while providing much more features than OOS. Also, 2 stable builds a month. That's much faster updates than OOS.
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I've always been in love with Codename Phoenix, and I still am. I flashed everything there is out there, and every kernel. My conclusion: either OOS, or Phoenix. All the others either have some bugs or annoying problems. I choose Phoenix over OOS because it is just as smooth if not even smoother & faster while providing much more features than OOS. Also, 2 stable builds a month. That's much faster updates than OOS.
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Nice one I'll give that a crack.
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Nice one I'll give that a crack.
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The guy deleted all of the G+ and xda threads, because he hated the drama. All he wanted to do at the end of the day is just share the builds he makes with his friends and his loyal users, so he only just has a telegram where he posts fully stable builds around two times per month. MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED
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Mash1ro said:
The guy deleted all of the G+ and xda threads, because he hated the drama. All he wanted to do at the end of the day is just share the builds he makes with his friends and his loyal users, so he only just has a telegram where he posts fully stable builds around two times per month. MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED
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The rom also has OOS cam working. The ROM itself is closed source, but it's stellar, so I am sure there's a reason behind him making it closed source. I bet he is some ex developer of some other mainstream rom who really knows his stuff.
The rom that give Codename Phoenix a head to head competition is AOSIP, I have used both and settled down on latter.
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The rom that give Codename Phoenix a head to head competition is AOSIP, I have used both and settled down on latter.
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Aye i was looking at that one, again though it aims towards encrypted devices, I'm currently decrypted and have fallen foul of the memory becoming unreadable and thus losing data before, that noverity is that all you flash after the rom?
ROM / Gapps / Noverity
In that order right?
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The guy deleted all of the G+ and xda threads, because he hated the drama. All he wanted to do at the end of the day is just share the builds he makes with his friends and his loyal users, so he only just has a telegram where he posts fully stable builds around two times per month. MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED
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The rom also has OOS cam working. The ROM itself is closed source, but it's stellar, so I am sure there's a reason behind him making it closed source. I bet he is some ex developer of some other mainstream rom who really knows his stuff.
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Sounds superb, i'll give that a shot, nice one for that mate. :good:
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Aye i was looking at that one, again though it aims towards encrypted devices, I'm currently decrypted and have fallen foul of the memory becoming unreadable and thus losing data before, that noverity is that all you flash after the rom?
ROM / Gapps / Noverity
In that order right?
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I am decrypted as well, yes order is correct just flashing magisk after the rom makes sure that you will stay decrypted.
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I am decrypted as well, yes order is correct just flashing magisk after the rom makes sure that you will stay decrypted.
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Ok cool, cheers pal.
Will look into it this week sometime. :good:
I went with AICP, firmware 5.1 at this point is needed with it. Modded Gcam working, modded oneplus cam also working. Alot of features, uses LOS and others for base. if your a flashaholic like myself they have nightlies close to every night even. If you want a custom kernel most of the LOS compatble ones (EX, Flash, Franco) work. Battery life is great, and I like the feature set. Eneough tweaking I dont need substratum to have the look I want. Using Magisk 14.4 beta for root. solid eneough to be a daily driver for sure. Bluetooth works perfect for me as well, no wifi issues.
Still using Pure Fusion 7.1.2, as it's aosp-based yet has oos camera fully working(with portrait and slow-mo).
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Ok cool, cheers pal.
Will look into it this week sometime. :good:
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So I am going to do this later...I am on XXX 10.5 right now, Oreo.
I am unencrypted...
To put Phoenix on my OP5 and not lose data...
In TWRP:
1. Wipe everything but internal storage...
2. Flash Phoenix
3. Flash GAPPS
4. Flash Magisk
Done?
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Still using Pure Fusion 7.1.2, as it's aosp-based yet has oos camera fully working(with portrait and slow-mo).
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+1
Super stable for me, with magic batterylife. Do U run the beta-version or the stable? I am on #TeamBeta
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Super stable for me, with magic batterylife. Do U run the beta-version or the stable? I am on #TeamBeta
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Beta as well. It had only one problem for me - stock alarm app is broken so I pulled it from another ROM.
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So I am going to do this later...I am on XXX 10.5 right now, Oreo.
I am unencrypted...
To put Phoenix on my OP5 and not lose data...
In TWRP:
1. Wipe everything but internal storage...
2. Flash Phoenix
3. Flash GAPPS
4. Flash Magisk
Done?
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Have to say I'm more than curious about this ROM now, it is also Friday so I have the weekend to spend, no excuse for me now, I'll be doing the same pal.
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Beta as well. It had only one problem for me - stock alarm app is broken so I pulled it from another ROM.
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Not a worry for me that, I've got a Lumie that gets brighter in the morning and tweets at me, wakes me up better than a normal alarm.
How's theming on pure fusion? Been having some issues with my preferred theme lately, in fact so many themes these days don't work.
Google just wants to be lighter and lighter, how they haven't got a dark side I'll never know.
Besides robbing everyone's data
Just like OP, i'm running xXx oos based rom since the beginning, and i'm pretty happy with it.
I'm interested in trying some custom roms, but i've read almost everywhere that custom roms can't get close to camera quality of OOS, is this still true ?
I don't mind flashing any magisk camera mod module if that could help :good:
So I searched the whole rom recoveries kernel section, did not see any base roms. If there isn't, where to info about pulling system to make one? Trying to get a custom OOS rom going as AOSP can suck it lol. Original software is always more stable IMO
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So I searched the whole rom recoveries kernel section, did not see any base roms. If there isn't, where to info about pulling system to make one? Trying to get a custom OOS rom going as AOSP can suck it lol. Original software is always more stable IMO
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What is a base ROM for you?
Normally pure AOSP is considered as the reference as it's Google code without modification. But people don't like pure AOSP because it's lacking many features people are used to. So even AOSP labeled ROM have some non AOSP add-ons.
If you want a 'pure' AOSP ROM you'll have to compile it.
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What is a base ROM for you?
Normally pure AOSP is considered as the reference as it's Google code without modification. But people don't like pure AOSP because it's lacking many features people are used to. So even AOSP labeled ROM have some non AOSP add-ons.
If you want a 'pure' AOSP ROM you'll have to compile it.
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Back in the days someone usually created an optimized stock Rom for different devices based off the OEMs software so that others could flash it or use it as a base for custom ROMs based off of stock.
I believe that's what he is referencing if I am not mistaken.
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So I searched the whole rom recoveries kernel section, did not see any base roms. If there isn't, where to info about pulling system to make one? Trying to get a custom OOS rom going as AOSP can suck it lol. Original software is always more stable IMO
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There is no base ROM for the OnePlus 6T. Its so AOSP like almost everything is done from source. I thought about posting a base ROM, as that is what I used to primarily use (and usually posted). I wasnt much into Source.
Another cool thing some devs due are make mods that can be flashed in magisk, and so long as you have the stock oos you can enjoy there version of stock oos with whatever tweaks they have done to it such as custom settings apps, etc.
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Back in the days someone usually created an optimized stock Rom for different devices based off the OEMs software so that others could flash it or use it as a base for custom ROMs based off of stock.
I believe that's what he is referencing if I am not mistaken.
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You are 100% correct
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There is no base ROM for the OnePlus 6T. Its so AOSP like almost everything is done from source. I thought about posting a base ROM, as that is what I used to primarily use (and usually posted). I wasnt much into Source.
Another cool thing some devs due are make mods that can be flashed in magisk, and so long as you have the stock oos you can enjoy there version of stock oos with whatever tweaks they have done to it such as custom settings apps, etc.
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Nailed Scott as usual. This device and how android handles files is extremely different than other phones we've both worked on as well (pretty sure that's android specific) I'm gonna have to look into the magisk thing. Never did the from source thing so that might be over my head. Don't have Linux set up on my machine either so a lot of time would have to go into just getting a stock flashable to work with.
I want to get some of the mods and themes I always post for this phone, but this might be a hurtle as I usually got a base to run with. I always try to show some love and since developers are jumping ship (because the money's not there, let's not lie and say that isn't what it's about) I know my work would be appreciated
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You are 100% correct
Nailed Scott as usual. This device and how android handles files is extremely different than other phones we've both worked on as well (pretty sure that's android specific) I'm gonna have to look into the magisk thing. Never did the from source thing so that might be over my head. Don't have Linux set up on my machine either so a lot of time would have to go into just getting a stock flashable to work with.
I want to get some of the mods and themes I always post for this phone, but this might be a hurtle as I usually got a base to run with. I always try to show some love and since developers are jumping ship (because the money's not there, let's not lie and say that isn't what it's about) I know my work would be appreciated
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The magisk modules are a great way to go because its reversible as well. Not sure if you knew that. You can uninstall these MagiskROM's just as easy as installing.
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The magisk modules are a great way to go because its reversible as well. Not sure if you knew that. You can uninstall these MagiskROM's just as easy as installing.
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I did, but think I'm just gonna make a flashable over stock package, too much catching up to do so gonna stick to what I know