Reflashing stock over custom ROMs - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This is probably a dumb question..
But is it possible to flash the system.img from stock over a CM 13 rom and keep user data? Or a combination of the various IMG files?
I'm just having a lot of instability issues with the nightlies and don't want to have to download the 35gb of music again now that I'm on 2mbs internet :crying:

I had gone completely stock including relocking boot loader - agree - non stock ROMS are less stable.
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BJNK said:
This is probably a dumb question..
But is it possible to flash the system.img from stock over a CM 13 rom? Or a combination of the various IMG files?
I'm just having a lot of instability issues with the nightlies and don't want to have to download the 35gb of music again now that I'm on 2mbs internet :crying:
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Appears I may have found the answer in this excellent guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
I am wondering if anyone can confirm if Google Music would still have all it's downloaded music? Or would flashing write over that, as they are protected/hidden/encrypted files?

Best guess
Going back stock will make it factory fresh
I.e. Bye bye downloads
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Maybe don't use the nightlies and just use a more stable ROM? Your problem seems to be with nightlies being too unstable, well, that's the name of the game with nightlies. Maybe go for one of the other ROMs in the forum that offer much more stability? Won't be stock-stable but it will be pretty stable...
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Maybe don't use the nightlies and just use a more stable ROM? Your problem seems to be with nightlies being too unstable, well, that's the name of the game with nightlies. Maybe go for one of the other ROMs in the forum that offer much more stability? Won't be stock-stable but it will be pretty stable...
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You're probably right. I'm just a little surprised that the Redmi Note 3's unoffical version of CM 13 was 10x more stable than the unlocked Google Nexus phone. Not blaming anyone or thinking I am owed anything. I just assumed since it ran so well on the RN3 that it should be near perfect on the N6P.
Any ROMS you reccomend that? Any reason not to just go stock+root+xposed?

BJNK said:
You're probably right. I'm just a little surprised that the Redmi Note 3's unoffical version of CM 13 was 10x more stable than the unlocked Google Nexus phone. Not blaming anyone or thinking I am owed anything. I just assumed since it ran so well on the RN3 that it should be near perfect on the N6P.
Any ROMS you reccomend that? Any reason not to just go stock+root+xposed?
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AFAIK last CM snapshot (release) for 6p was in April.
If you want a stable ROM for 6p, choose one that is based on AOSP and not to heavily modified.
I've been using Pure Nexus ROM for awhile now and I find it very stable, if you find a bug and report it correctly, the dev is sure to try his best to fix it.
He also releases an update every month at least to include the security patches.
Stock ROMs can have bugs too and sometimes fixed in custom ROMs, they're usually more optimized too

+1 for pure nexus rom and xposed
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[Q] Stable ROM for mako

Hello everyone,
I'm getting an N4 next week and I was wandering how stable AOKP's milestone 1 or CM RC2 are given that nither have a proper stable out yet.
Let me give some context. I use to be big on flashing, the phone I have now has run every any anying I have been able to find but to be honest I'm sort fo bored of it. At this point I'm just looking for somethig I can flash and wait for the OTA update for the next point or big number realse and Yes I know that both roms mention above are not "stable" but they will be soon I hope. I can put up with annoynces for some time while the stable comes out so I can move up to it. Also I'm open for sugestion if there anything more solid then AKOP or CM(if that is even plosible) by all means shear
They're both pretty stable. All features are fully working. Both roms have been on the Nexus 4 scene since day one so the developers have worked hard to eliminate any bugs. Just flash one and try it out yourself.
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CyanogenMod RC2, being a release candidate, is very stable and bug free (from my experience).
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that is awsome news that there really stable. I'm confuse, why then are they not mark as stable? Can they be using debian definiton of stable?
gozes said:
that is awsome news that there really stable. I'm confuse, why then are they not mark as stable? Can they be using debian definiton of stable?
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Probably the developer doesn't think it's ready. Either way, it seems stable enough for daily use.
It sounds like I'm contradicting myself. LOL
Mmuzzy ROM. 100% stable with just a few very necessary customizations.
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sound good. I will asum that as soon as they think is go for stable then there will be an OTAU for it
gozes said:
sound good. I will asum that as soon as they think is go for stable then there will be an OTAU for it
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Yeah. They probably won't label "Stable" but a "Milestone" instead.
Every rom i have tried for my n4 have been stable
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now a stupid question, I haven't use AOKP in a while so I was wandering do I still need to get the gapps in another zip and flash them or do the now ship with the rom? if they don't where do I get them because I dont't see them on there site
gozes said:
now a stupid question, I haven't use AOKP in a while so I was wandering do I still need to get the gapps in another zip and flash them or do the now ship with the rom? if they don't where do I get them because I dont't see them on there site
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Here is the gapps file.
http://d-h.st/VpV
Before you flash anything. PLEASE MAKE A BACKUP NANDROID FILE IN RECOVERY MODE JUST IN CASE THE PHONE DOESN'T BOOT.
I assume you know how to do a backup. LOL
scream4cheese said:
Here is the gapps file.
http://d-h.st/VpV
Before you flash anything. PLEASE MAKE A BACKUP NANDROID FILE IN RECOVERY MODE JUST IN CASE THE PHONE DOESN'T BOOT.
I assume you know how to do a backup. LOL
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yes I do in fact I do most of my rom setups with adb
gozes said:
yes I do in fact I do most of my rom setups with adb
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Aw sweet. :good::fingers-crossed:
Primerunner theme chooser edition is great and so are the rassaber builds, sentinel is a must if u prefer a straight cm experience but want gaming optimization
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carbon CM aospa
I've used cm10.1 and switched to Xylon when I had the desire for more customization. Ever since JellyBeer started however it's been my main ROM and I absolutely love the functionality and stability it has to offer. I am intrigued by PA's Halo though.

Cyanogenmod: why are there no stable release?

I'd like to use CM12.1 (marshmallow) but I realize there still are no stable release? Why? Is it not good enough yet?
I've had a pretty bad experience with CM on my old Galaxy S4 so I'm a little afraid to remove the stock recovery and ROM from my Moto X Play. I want to make sure that it's bug free (or as buggy as stock) and suitable for day use. In other words I want to flash it and know it's fully reliable. Given the fact that there are only nightly releases, are they reliable enough for this?
Thanks
Prosis said:
I'd like to use CM12.1 (marshmallow) but I realize there still are no stable release? Why? Is it not good enough yet?
I've had a pretty bad experience with CM on my old Galaxy S4 so I'm a little afraid to remove the stock recovery and ROM from my Moto X Play. I want to make sure that it's bug free (or as buggy as stock) and suitable for day use. In other words I want to flash it and know it's fully reliable. Given the fact that there are only nightly releases, are they reliable enough for this?
Thanks
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I can't vouch for the latest releases, as my xplay has been broken for like 3 months now, but being a nightly doesn't inherently make it unstable. Stable builds are usually relabeled nightlies. I say give it a shot. You can always go back to stock if you don't like it, unless you're speaking about voiding warranty
dictionary said:
I can't vouch for the latest releases, as my xplay has been broken for like 3 months now, but being a nightly doesn't inherently make it unstable. Stable builds are usually relabeled nightlies. I say give it a shot. You can always go back to stock if you don't like it, unless you're speaking about voiding warranty
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Oh! I thought nightlies were unstable releases. So before yours broke, you had a good experience? No problem with camera or other stuff?
It's not really a question of warranty but rather just not having any issues when I need it to work. For instance, with my Galaxy S4, the camera kept crashing while I was out with my kids so I lost time trying to make it work when I wanted to take a picture. That's the kind of thing I wouldn't want happening just because I got another ROM.
Indeed I did (have a good experience). If you're every unsure of a nightly, head to the thread. You'll usually find one or several people commenting if it's no good.
dictionary said:
Indeed I did. If you're every unsure of a nightly, head to the thread. You'll usually find one or several people commenting if it's no good.
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Yeah I had a look (I just realized I was talking about CM13 not 12.1) but given there are now 205 pages I thought I'd ask about the nightly situation in a different thread.
I think I may try it and restore it from the ROM available in the forum.
Oh and I keep wondering, given Motorola never actually released the ROM, how can someone make it available?
I m using nightly for like 3 months ......and I can say nightly is far better than stock if you are looking for customization and speed. I recently tried to go back to stock 6.0.1 but that experience is so "LAGGY" that I again return back to CM.I can say that CM nightly build working best for me with my requirements(like gaming and also photography and editing and HEAVY Customization and many more ) . and about custom recovery,it's a must have tool I suggest as with that I can return back to my previous builds. SO i recommend to go for NEW CM build,but in the end it's upto you.
and if u r still fearing about NIGHTLIES then flash the custom recovery(twrp) and then make backup of whole stock system and then do whatever U want to.
Btw this is the wrong forum to discuss things
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anks095 said:
I m using nightly for like 3 months ......and I can say nightly is far better than stock if you are looking for customization and speed. I recently tried to go back to stock 6.0.1 but that experience is so "LAGGY" that I again return back to CM.I can say that CM nightly build working best for me with my requirements(like gaming and also photography and editing and HEAVY Customization and many more ) . and about custom recovery,it's a must have tool I suggest as with that I can return back to my previous builds. SO i recommend to go for NEW CM build,but in the end it's upto you.
and if u r still fearing about NIGHTLIES then flash the custom recovery(twrp) and then make backup of whole stock system and then do whatever U want to.
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Oh nice idea. I think That's what I'm gonna do, thanks!
Benjamin_L said:
Btw this is the wrong forum to discuss things
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Is it? I apologize then. Even if I want to talk about CM I should use the General Help forum?
Prosis said:
Oh nice idea. I think That's what I'm gonna do, thanks!
Is it? I apologize then. Even if I want to talk about CM I should use the General Help forum?
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Original development is for devs posting their work usually

PureNexus vs Android N 7.1 DP

Hi guys,
I'm currently torn between PureNexus and Nougat 7.1. Currently I'm stock, unrooted with bootloader locked. Basically as good as factory piece.
I had made my mind up to flash PureNexus, then I read about Google releasing DP of 7.1 to N6P.
I'm not able to decide on either of these now.
Would there be any noticeable changes from 7.0 to 7.1 or would you go on and flash PureNexus!!!???
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SyCreed said:
I'll tell you the truth,, there is nothing special about PureNexus nougat rom...i Flashed PN, used it for 1 day and went back to stock nougat + franco's kernel.
I found the google apps works better on stock than the AOSP apps on PureNexus.
The "life" of one battery cycle isn't too much different between those two...
About dp 7.1 , I ain't sure that there is some one who can answer your question about it, there is no any specific info about that... all you can do is flash the DP when it'll roll out and than decide - keep it or not.
Best regards,
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I'm curious about "the google apps" part. What do you mean?
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Jammol said:
I'm curious about "the google apps" part. What do you mean?
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He means the Google apps run better on stock. In other words the "Gapps" and I noticed it too. Apps don't install as fast from the play store. Don't get me wrong pn is a great rom. I'll probably use it instead of stock some day. But rn. There is too many new updates coming to the Nexus device. One of the main reasons to have a nexus is to have all the latest versions and features earlier. That's wasted with pn. Maybe after 7.1 is on stable and Pn is on a stable version of 7.1 I'll switch. But right now . I'm on 7.1
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The AOSP based phone app for example is old compared to google markets one, keeping both make no sense , freeze the AOSP phone app will broke the whole calling "system".
The overall experience on stock apps vs AOSP version is much better, nothing missing, fully functional, if u don't like something you can just disable it with no issues (of freeze with TB)
I never liked the AOSP based Roms, there is always something old and undone... You can bring the same results of battery life of stock , just change kernel, freeze some apps and disable some services and you're ready to go.
The best way to choose is to try them both, than decide what's better for you.
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Ahh I see what you mean. Yeah aosp apps tend to be outdated. On PN I flash OpenGapps and get rid of everything AOSP app wise.
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Stock has gotten so good, I stopped developing Roms.
flex360 said:
Stock has gotten so good, I stopped developing Roms.
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True and your roms were sweet! But I still like flashing custom roms!

Best rom on this phone for STABILITY and SPEED?

Have been on true pure since day one... Great stability and speed. Can anyone recommend anything else though? Am looking for a reason to try something new.
As title says , all I really care about is stability and speed. Thx
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Cowbell_Guy said:
Have been on true pure since day one... Great stability and speed. Can anyone recommend anything else though? Am looking for a reason to try something new.
As title says , all I really care about is stability and speed. Thx
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If you're looking for a 7.1 ROM, try out dirty unicorns. They are not on XDA, but they have a Google+ page and a website with downloads for Clark. It is one of the most stable ROMS right know for this device. If you wanna stay on marshmallow I'm pretty sure Tru pure is still a great ROM, and you probably wouldn't wanna change.
I've gone back to stock with this device as every custom rom that I have tried has had some issue or another, making them unstable. The Brazilian stock nougat TWRP backup that is available on this forum is working surprisingly well on my device, an XT1572 being used in the UK.
Spencervb256 said:
If you're looking for a 7.1 ROM, try out dirty unicorns. They are not on XDA, but they have a Google+ page and a website with downloads for Clark. It is one of the most stable ROMS right know for this device. If you wanna stay on marshmallow I'm pretty sure Tru pure is still a great ROM, and you probably wouldn't wanna change.
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How do work the gestures on DU? Just like on the stock? Worse/better?
dzidexx said:
How do work the gestures on DU? Just like on the stock? Worse/better?
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None of the ROM'S do gestures as well as the stock gestures work, such as waving hand to wake the phone..etc..but they still work fairly well. Dirty unicorns also has the other moto gestures such as flip the phone to silence among others.
+1 for dirty unicorns. I'm running on their latest official release and its pretty good.
The latest build of stock 6.0.1 + Root + Xposed.
Stock... pure, untouched stock is the best for stability and speed, no doubt about it.
If you mean what CUSTOM rom is best, BrokenOS for MM or Dirty Unicorns for Nougat... Both are good, but neither one is as stable as stock.
Tesla.
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Tesla.
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After testing Tesla, DU, RR, crDrpid, and tipsy, I can say DU is best nougat ROM and like @acejavelin said BrokenOS is best Marshmallow ROM
I also agree that stock untouched is best way to go besides custom ROMs
i am using AISP rom and it is working well so far. Fast and smooth so far with huge amount of apps in background, also phone is not overhearting
no bootlops, no crashes etc
Ok, I guess I should probably flash a stock rom image then... Where can I find an official link?
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Cowbell_Guy said:
Ok, I guess I should probably flash a stock rom image then... Where can I find an official link?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-return-to-stock-relock-bootloader-t3489110
https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/
Don't use the one directly from Moto/Lenovo, it is actually the original MM release from 2015
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i am using AISP rom and it is working well so far. Fast and smooth so far with huge amount of apps in background, also phone is not overhearting
no bootlops, no crashes etc
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I'm using AICP (which I'm assuming you mean) too and I love it. I tried to go back to a stock based ROM and I hated it. It's very fast and has been extremely stable for me.
ccic2491 said:
I'm using AICP (which I'm assuming you mean) too and I love it. I tried to go back to a stock based ROM and I hated it. It's very fast and has been extremely stable for me.
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I'm thinking this post should be marked as solved by OP, as he has said he would flash a stock image. All the other custom ROMs mentioned are great choices too though!
ccic2491 said:
I'm using AICP (which I'm assuming you mean) too and I love it. I tried to go back to a stock based ROM and I hated it. It's very fast and has been extremely stable for me.
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yeah AICP
also i flashed govtuner balanced version and art optimization with magisk, so far so good but i need to test battery uptime with that tweaks
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yeah AICP
also i flashed govtuner balanced version and art optimization with magisk, so far so good but i need to test battery uptime with that tweaks
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OPwas looking for stability and speed, and DU and BrokenOS have been found to be most stable and smooth ROM's out there, if OP does not want stock. @Cowbell_Guy should mark this post as solved so far @acejavelin has hit the nail on the head for what the OP asked.

Please recommend the most stable Android 10 rom

Itching to try Android 10.
Which is the most stable rom?
Thanks.
Using Havoc now, ok so far.
But I'm not using it much because backup phone only.
Better read other use post in the thread as well.
Well, there's no such thing as "stable rom" in my opinion. Almost every Android 10 ROM by now is stable enough to be a daily driver. But it goes without saying that you will be facing few bugs because that's how Custom ROMs are.
Tip: Try any ROM(s) and find what suits you best
Try EvolutionX.
Deeptesh Basak said:
Itching to try Android 10.
Which is the most stable rom?
Thanks.
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Evolution Rom,
Using Havoc (Latest build) + Bit Gapps for a week now! No major issues found, though you may see casual freezes (got them mostly in Chrome, maybe app issue) and slow charging. Using stock kernel and not rooted.
Everybody thank you for your suggestions.
I have been using custom roms since Android Ice cream sandwich but believe it or not official Custom Roms on my old Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 literally had 0 bugs , but now in newer phones custom roms always have 1 or 2 quirks that forces me change it.
Well as for the Zenfone, all I want is stable gcam support and less lag than stock rom. I don't have too many demands. The reason I go back to stock rom is that, for some weird reason, Mobile data didn't work too well(pie roms). Vodafone 4g took tooooo long to turn on and speeds were terrible, absolutely unusable.
Didn't try 10 roms, so may be they might be better in this aspect.
Deeptesh Basak said:
Itching to try Android 10.
Which is the most stable rom?
Thanks.
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Try Evolution roms

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