Band 12? - ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers

This phone was supposed to come with band 12 support, but I've been in areas that I know get band 12 but it does not pick it up.
I had set the phone to lte only and it didn't pick up any signal at all in the area as well. If that's not the case, can someone send a screenshot showing band 12?
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I understand it will use band 12 as a last resort, but the phone would rather have no reception at all rather than accept a band 12 signal. My old phone (moto x pure) would switch to it no problem in this area I'm referring to, but this phone will have no reception at all instead.
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Band 12 Support
Zub236 said:
This phone was supposed to come with band 12 support, but I've been in areas that I know get band 12 but it does not pick it up.
I had set the phone to lte only and it didn't pick up any signal at all in the area as well. If that's not the case, can someone send a screenshot showing band 12?
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Band 12 is a requirement for me before I will consider purchasing this phone. Could you try the LTE Discovery app from the Play Store? Maybe it will shed more light on what is going on.

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Band 12 is a requirement for me before I will consider purchasing this phone. Could you try the LTE Discovery app from the Play Store? Maybe it will shed more light on what is going on.
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That's what I'm referring to. It will not pick up band 12. That's the app I use.
I'm also not in an area that gets band 12 at the moment. T mobile sucks so so bad where I'm at.
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##data# activation and Band 3

I noticed under the sprint hidden data menu (##3282# on dialer) that band 3 and LTE were disabled. To enable, go to hidden menu, edit, LTE, enable band 3 and LTE. Had to do this in my Nexus 5 before this phone since sprint didn't release Spark update before 4.4.3. Do not know if this applies to all since may differ but thought I'd share since having both disabled.
---- Instructions for enabling: (thanks eyecon82) ----
1. dial ##3282#
2. then click edit (need MSL code - see Android MSL reader apk here http://tools.flashingtools.com/ )
3. then click LTE
4. It will show LTE ( also known as Band 25), Band 3, Band 26, Band 41
5. Enable all bands
6. Reboot
---- To tell what Band on: ----
1. ##debug#
2. enter passcode 777468
3. go to LTE engineering menu
Enabling all bands allows the phone to determine strongest band nearest you and use that connection (also noted within the Nexus 5 thread). The band is from the tower to allow stable data connections. If band is disabled, the phone will never try to connect to towers that use that particular band. NOTE: Android 4.4.3 update just pushed to sprint users allows the tri-band technology (all bands enabled). This manual guide is to activate all bands instead of waiting for Sprint later on through an update. There is no consequence as of now towards enabling all the bands (was getting better service is regions using Nexus 5 after all bands enabled, along with other people having similar success). For the Sprint S5, enabling all bands should have no negative actions, it may show mixed success based on location, whether Sprint upgraded towers as stated in http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/ (a good read into this issue).
----Band 3----
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170166-nexus-5-excellent-global-coverage-perplexing-lte-support
From what I've gathered online, Band 3 is international name for LTE, such as through parts of Asia and Europe. It seems disabled by default because we don't use it here, with Sprint being bands 25,26,41. I'm assuming, if we travel, that band would need be enabled for international usage of LTE. so, it's seems band 3 is no negative or positive benefit to enable (as I can see).
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See my other post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2719582
I am in a spark area and all of those are enabled on my s5.
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Mine was also enabled as well. Thanks for sharing the info.
Looks like band 3 is disabled for me. What is it?
RevelationOmega said:
I noticed under the sprint hidden data menu (##3282# on dialer) that band 3 and LTE were disabled. To enable, go to hidden menu, edit, LTE, enable band 3 and LTE. Had to do this in my Nexus 5 before this phone since sprint didn't release Spark update before 4.4.3. Do not know if this applies to all since may differ but thought I'd share since having both disabled.
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My band 3 is diabled ....looking for the quickest way to get my msl
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Bottom of page 4 of the spark thread in this section. There is an apk you can download that gives it to you.
Edit - Here ya go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51925905&postcount=37
Sorry if noob question, but what is band 3 and should I only enable it if I have spark in my area? Also, seems like a lot of you know if spark is available in your city or not...where are you getting the info? Thanks
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lballer69 said:
My band 3 is diabled ....looking for the quickest way to get my msl
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I called up Sprint tech support line, Said that I had an issue with service/ that I found a fix awhile back with previous phone by Sprint giving MSL, and that the MSL allowed me to access the ##data# menu to give me the fix. The women gave me the MSL right away, no question asked. Another way Ive seen is to talk to Sprint tech support and just say youre a developer. Id go my way first since I know it worked.Good luck.
pizzlewizzle said:
Sorry if noob question, but what is band 3 and should I only enable it if I have spark in my area? Also, seems like a lot of you know if spark is available in your city or not...where are you getting the info? Thanks
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Enabling all bands allows the phone to pick up each band separate and determine the strongest one, thus best signal. When disabled, your phone only goes between available bands for LTE, etc. I had a Nexus 5, where Sprint did not enable the tri-band by default and had to do this to the Nexus 5. Got this phone, thought Id look into if all bands enabled, found Band 3 and LTE disabled, so I enabled them using the Nexus 5 fix I did earlier. Experience, noted this also in Nexus 5 forums before 4.4.3 was released which allowed the tri-band to be activated, was frustrated that wasnt enabled by default until now (which is way too long after phone release to use the phone at full potential anyways). So, Id enable ALL BANDS to have the best signal, using Sprint Spark to fullest potential, rather than waiting for an update.
Enabled band 3...we shall see if anything changes.
RevelationOmega said:
Enabling all bands allows the phone to pick up each band separate and determine the strongest one, thus best signal. When disabled, your phone only goes between available bands for LTE, etc. I had a Nexus 5, where Sprint did not enable the tri-band by default and had to do this to the Nexus 5. Got this phone, thought Id look into if all bands enabled, found Band 3 and LTE disabled, so I enabled them using the Nexus 5 fix I did earlier. Experience, noted this also in Nexus 5 forums before 4.4.3 was released which allowed the tri-band to be activated, was frustrated that wasnt enabled by default until now (which is way too long after phone release to use the phone at full potential anyways). So, Id enable ALL BANDS to have the best signal, using Sprint Spark to fullest potential, rather than waiting for an update.
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I'm currently connected to band25 but when I view LTE it says band 3 disabled band 26 enabled band 41 enabled...where is band 25 coming from?
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pizzlewizzle said:
I'm currently connected to band25 but when I view LTE it says band 3 disabled band 26 enabled band 41 enabled...where is band 25 coming from?
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Band 25 is strongest in your current location, thus showing you on it. Enabling band 3 will allow you to get signal better in band 3 areas. The band is signal from tower for data. Band 25 is normal standard LTE, the top choice of LTE enable on ##data#. On the menu, it won't appear as Band 25, is just the label LTE. LTE enable/disbale (ie, the only one not labeled as a Band) is the Band 25. Band 25, general LTE, is strongest, thus not using other bands. Once you move into another area (ie, maybe a Spark enabled area or another type tower) you will get possibly another band signal over 25.
All my bands are enabled. I wonder why it's not for some people.
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dpwhitty11 said:
All my bands are enabled. I wonder why it's not for some people.
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No idea, possibly goof by Sprint enabling some options and messing with too much from Samsung (such as download booster gone and Connection Optimizer crashing in ART).
Enabling band 3 doesnt change anything for me. I mainly get 3g now when before all I got was LTE. Super frustrated to have the newest phone but can only get 3g. I have seen LTE but it shuts off within a few minutes.
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pastert33 said:
Enabling band 3 doesnt change anything for me. I mainly get 3g now when before all I got was LTE. Super frustrated to have the newest phone but can only get 3g. I have seen LTE but it shuts off within a few minutes.
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Yeah thanks Sprint! I have had 4G phones from Sprint for 3-4 years and never got more than weak 3g at home it sucks..
Another old trick I have done on last few of my Sprint phones some people used to say made connection quicker at times.. Can't say I ever had an issue or notice a change after but personally I remove these proxys..
##DATA# (##3282#)
Go to Multimedia
(Write down default info before in case you ever want to re add them later.. I never have on last few phones..)
Delete the server address from RTSP IP Address and the numbers from RTSP Port
Delete the server address from HTTPPD Address and the numbers from HTTPPD Proxy
You're done!
pastert33 said:
Enabling band 3 doesnt change anything for me. I mainly get 3g now when before all I got was LTE. Super frustrated to have the newest phone but can only get 3g. I have seen LTE but it shuts off within a few minutes.
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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/
This article explains what happened when Tri-band phones hit the market. You need to call Sprint, have them make a ticket explaining the Circuit Switch Fallback needs to be enabled on your towers that you had LTE on. Reference this website above. Sprint is trying to get the towers all set up by Mid-2014 for tri-band to be full to go but still have places to do. By putting in the ticket for them to enable the towers nearest you, may speed up the process to get LTE back and stronger.
RevelationOmega said:
I noticed under the sprint hidden data menu (##3282# on dialer) that band 3 and LTE were disabled. To enable, go to hidden menu, edit, LTE, enable band 3 and LTE. Had to do this in my Nexus 5 before this phone since sprint didn't release Spark update before 4.4.3. Do not know if this applies to all since may differ but thought I'd share since having both disabled.
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Just to spell out instructions for noobs who just want to see, do this
1. dial ##3282#
2. then click view
3. then click LTE
4. It will show band3 as enabled, but click on it and it will show disabled
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eyecon82 said:
Just to spell out instructions for noobs who just want to see, do this
1. dial ##3282#
2. then click view
3. then click LTE
4. It will show band3 as enabled, but click on it and it will show disabled
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mine shows band 3 disabled, band 26 and 41 enabled
are we sure this wont mess anything up by enabling band 3?
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pizzlewizzle said:
I'm currently connected to band25 but when I view LTE it says band 3 disabled band 26 enabled band 41 enabled...where is band 25 coming from?
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how do you know you are connected to band 25 if it only lists band 3, 26, and 41?
OP Updated, see for further clarification on this
eyecon82 said:
how do you know you are connected to band 25 if it only lists band 3, 26, and 41?
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nevermind, i see that you go to ##debug#
then enter passcode 777468, then go to LTE engineering menu to find out

Tmobile band 12 availability thread

I decided to start this thread for people to report the availability and their experience with band 12 (700mhz). I've been on the fence about leaving T-Mobile due to poor reception in the areas I spend the most time at.( home and work). I'm tired of texts not sending or data not being available. My favorite is my wife constantly picks on me about android and crap phones ( you can only imagine what she uses). So every time she needs me to look up something because her phone isn't around I can't.
According to T-Mobile they will be releasing an update to phones that support band 12 in Q1 so it can access the network. I'm hoping this solves my connectivity problems since it should have better building penetration. Sorry if there is already a thread on this topic. Any information on this topic would be greatly appreciated
Hoping TMUS can turn it around. The most recent FCC freq auction had VZ and ATT outspending TMUS by 5 to 9 times. Sprint didn't bid. TMUS CEO had a plan to have VZ-like coverage. We'll see.
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/...end-1-77-billion-but-still-was.html?ana=yahoo
TiltedAz said:
Hoping TMUS can turn it around. The most recent FCC freq auction had VZ and ATT outspending TMUS by 5 to 9 times. Sprint didn't bid. TMUS CEO had a plan to have VZ-like coverage. We'll see.
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/...end-1-77-billion-but-still-was.html?ana=yahoo
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Well in the short term I'd like to see my area improve since I don't travel often. Long term I think Tmo will get there. The speed of the network is great. The philosophy of the carrier is pretty much what I want... Things just don't always work. I'm guessing the update T-Mobile is releasing is just a new radio? Unless they will bundle it with the release of 5.1? I'm hoping we get WiFi calling then as well. Should be sooner than later since there's 2 months left of Q1
Had band 12 for a little while a couple days ago. Speedtest.net said 20 down 12 up.
By comparison: this is what I can get on band 4 in my area.
mike.r.olson said:
Had band 12 for a little while a couple days ago. Speedtest.net said 20 down 12 up.
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Sweet, so some markets have it available. What app is that? Where are you located?
Smallsmx3 said:
Sweet, so some markets have it available. What app is that? Where are you located?
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LTE discovery!
Smallsmx3 said:
Where are you located?
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The band 12 screenshot came from Roswell, GA. I live about 10 miles from there in Woodstock.
I'm in Orlando FL. Not a huge market but big enough I'd like to think
TiltedAz said:
Hoping TMUS can turn it around. The most recent FCC freq auction had VZ and ATT outspending TMUS by 5 to 9 times. Sprint didn't bid. TMUS CEO had a plan to have VZ-like coverage. We'll see.
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/...end-1-77-billion-but-still-was.html?ana=yahoo
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The recent AWS-3 spectrum auction doesn't have anything to do with band 12. That was band 4 spectrum. More high band to carry data, which tmobile I think could benefit from but ultimately has enough for now. There is talk that ATT bought heavily as a strategic move to throttle expansion for both Verizon and TMO. Anyways, if your band 4 is good, I don't see how the auciton would benefit your experience. Only in areas where LTE currently sucks, you might see gains if you are in the included region.
As for Band 12, I don't see a lot of expansion in this until 2016 because there is an overlap with channel 51. Stations with licenses to channel 51 like in the San Francisco Bay Area don't have to move until 2016 sooo..... *shrugs*
See map for what's what.
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-spectrum-holdings
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Here is a link to currently deployed band 12 areas. confusingly, Green blue and red all mean varying levels of blocks that prevent band 12 from being deployed. the light blue/purple tower icons indicate where band 12 rolled out. Click on icons for more info.
http://ae2.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700-mhz-spectrum.html
8Fishes said:
The recent AWS-3 spectrum auction doesn't have anything to do with band 12. That was band 4 spectrum. More high band to carry data, which tmobile I think could benefit from but ultimately has enough for now. There is talk that ATT bought heavily as a strategic move to throttle expansion for both Verizon and TMO. Anyways, if your band 4 is good, I don't see how the auciton would benefit your experience. Only in areas where LTE currently sucks, you might see gains if you are in the included region.
As for Band 12, I don't see a lot of expansion in this until 2016 because there is an overlap with channel 51. Stations with licenses to channel 51 like in the San Francisco Bay Area don't have to move until 2016 sooo..... *shrugs*
See map for what's what.
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-spectrum-holdings
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Here is a link to currently deployed band 12 areas. confusingly, Green blue and red all mean varying levels of blocks that prevent band 12 from being deployed. the light blue/purple tower icons indicate where band 12 rolled out. Click on icons for more info.
http://ae2.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700-mhz-spectrum.html
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Great... So basically I'm screwed in Orlando. I'll never see band 12 on my nexus 6....I get the new nexus every year
Smallsmx3 said:
Great... So basically I'm screwed in Orlando. I'll never see band 12 on my nexus 6....I get the new nexus every year
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Not necessarily. You might get signal 'leakage' from the surrounding deployed towers in Tampa.
You'll probably get great signal if you ever go to Miami.
T-Mobile (google?) is also going to push out a new radio that will also 'enable' the band 12 whatever that means.
I guess for anyone that bought phones from them it's disabled but enabled on other sources?
Or maybe they will release a radio specifically tailored for there own tower deployment.
So I tried doing some digging. I think I found the channel 51 that is broadcasting in the area that I live. According to what I've found it says that it's channel 31 virtual channel 51. Anyone have any idea what that means?
Never mind I was looking at the wrong channel
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mike.r.olson said:
Had band 12 for a little while a couple days ago. Speedtest.net said 20 down 12 up.
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That's not a nexus 6..nexus 6 doesn't have band 12 enabled yet.
Smallsmx3 said:
So I tried doing some digging. I think I found the channel 51 that is broadcasting in the area that I live. According to what I've found it says that it's channel 31 virtual channel 51. Anyone have any idea what that means?
Never mind I was looking at the wrong channel
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Looks like the correct channel isn't going anywhere.
Band 12 is not about speed. it is a 5+5 implementation for A block sadly.
It is about getting a signal since the waves are long and able to penetrate into buildings, which is better than no signal at all.
8Fishes said:
Band 12 is not about speed. it is a 5+5 implementation for A block sadly.
It is about getting a signal since the waves are long and able to penetrate into buildings, which is better than no signal at all.
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Which is my issue. Att has signal everywhere. Well everywhere I don't. I don't care about speed when I can't get service
Smallsmx3 said:
Which is my issue. Att has signal everywhere. Well everywhere I don't. I don't care about speed when I can't get service
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But it's AT&T!
I can't say I have ever had any issues with my service on T-Mobile when in Orlando. I don't live or visit Orlando that often, but when I do, the service is solid for both voice and data. Southern West Virginia on the other hand.... Disgraceful!
suzook said:
That's not a nexus 6..nexus 6 doesn't have band 12 enabled yet.
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Pretty sure the phone I'm holding in my hand is a Nexus 6.
8Fishes said:
T-Mobile (google?) is also going to push out a new radio that will also 'enable' the band 12 whatever that means.
I guess for anyone that bought phones from them it's disabled but enabled on other sources?
Or maybe they will release a radio specifically tailored for there own tower deployment.
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I bought my 32GB blue at a T-Mobile store and band 12 is enabled. (Running SinLessROM)
mike.r.olson said:
Pretty sure the phone I'm holding in my hand is a Nexus 6.
I bought my 32GB blue at a T-Mobile store and band 12 is enabled. (Running SinLessROM)
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Well tmo put out a statement band 12 isn't active of nexus 6 yet. I live in NY, my note 4 gets band 12, yet my nexus 6 does not. I wonder if lte discovery app was wrong???
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mike.r.olson said:
Pretty sure the phone I'm holding in my hand is a Nexus 6.
I bought my 32GB blue at a T-Mobile store and band 12 is enabled. (Running SinLessROM)
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Wtf??? Me too. What modem you running??? Thanks

Interesting Network Configuration Finds

Just got my project Fi Nexus 5X. Did some googling and some have reported that band 12 can be unlocked on the TMobile side. However, the *#*#3282#*#* code only works while the phone is connected to Sprint. So after more digging, I figured this out:
The phone contains com.lge.HiddenMenu which has activities all prefixed with "vzw" which implies Verizon, but the same configuration could probably be used with any CDMA network, such as Sprint. I confirmed this by launching the Data hidden menu (usually the 3282 code) via adb shell while connected to TMobile. Most of the configuration options said UNKNOWN or were nonsense, further strengthening my theory of the Verizon menu being used as a generic CDMA menu.
To me, it seems odd that there's no Data Configuration menu for TMobile, or am I being pretty stupid? Someone who knows more about this could probably answer that.
In any case, my end goal is to enable band 12 on TMobile, and increase the Band 41 priority on Sprint (this phone can use Spark but its not configured to do so on Fi)
I am not able to change options in the band priority menu on Sprint, it closes with a permissions error, and when I manually launch the activity as root, it launches it in a view mode, not editing.
These are jsut my finds from a quick investigation, hope it helps someone!
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Also, on Sprint, I've only seen myself on Band 25, which can't be disabled. In the LTE hidden menu, I can enable/disable band 26 and band 41
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Wait, so Google Fi does NOT use Sprint's Spark network? So what speeds are you getting while on the Sprint network then?
lupham1973 said:
Wait, so Google Fi does NOT use Sprint's Spark network? So what speeds are you getting while on the Sprint network then?
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I'm afraid to run a Speedtest cuz I don't want to run out of data lol. I will when I get home. Currently I'm using TMo LTE cuz sprint only has 3G here...
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In some places I was getting at max 5mb down, pretty bad. When connected to Clear who is owned by Sprint I believe I get much more reasonable speeds of 20+mb down.
For band 12 head on over to this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/t-mobile-band-12-access-project-fi-t3237216
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For band 12 head on over to this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/t-mobile-band-12-access-project-fi-t3237216
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Sweet thanks! Now just to get spark
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drsn0w,
Were you ever able to disable band 25?
I can't find anything on the internet about disabling it or setting the band priorities. Whenever I try to set the band priorities I just get an error and I can't do much from there.

Tmobile 6.0.1 radio experience

Just wanted to share my experience with the new Radio on 6.0.1 so far it is much better.
1) band 12 active
2) better signal switch even when band 12 is not there it now could lock on to edge or other. I get signal now inside basement where I get nothing before
3) I noticed that the phone also dynamic switch to wifi calling now when it got nothing. It did not do this before
So far so good
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GreenDroidX said:
Just wanted to share my experience with the new Radio on 6.0.1 so far it is much better.
1) band 12 active
2) better signal switch even when band 12 is not there it now could lock on to edge or other. I get signal now inside basement where I get nothing before
3) I noticed that the phone also dynamic switch to wifi calling now when it got nothing. It did not do this before
So far so good
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What is your Wi-Fi calling setting, to prefer Wi-Fi or Cellular?
Charkatak said:
What is your Wi-Fi calling setting, to prefer Wi-Fi or Cellular?
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Cellular now before I have to do wifi to get it to switch
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GreenDroidX said:
Cellular now before I have to do wifi to get it to switch
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Interesting, I will give it a try when my phone gets OTA update
Any sign of hd voice or volte?
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Any sign of hd voice or volte?
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I don't know about VoLTE but I had HD Voice today
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Volte and HD voice worked on 6.0. I thought that was the norm? It works as well on 6.0.1
Yeah, VOLTE and HD Voice were working from the beginning.
The only thing I have noticed is that my phone seems to take longer to grab signal when I reboot. It shows full signal bars as soon as it turns on but does not connect to data for about 10 seconds. This was instantaneous before so I'm not sure what happened.
Update sometime for the wifi calling to lock on, I still have to restart the phone at time. This aspect still need improvement
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I agree I think it's better than 6.0 radio. It's more reliable and consistent specifically when going through dead-ish cell zones.
I've also noticed that it waits till the very last second to switch to b12 whereas the original radio that was reflashed would swap between band 4 and band 12 very often. It now seems to wait to about -110-115 dbm to switch
I've had great luck with t-mobile service in the Minneapolis, MN area. We have very strong TMO coverage in the cities so I wasn't too worried about it, however it gets slightly better service than my iPhone 5s did (loaned until i could buy the 5X, since i had just switched from Verizon).
radio on 6.0.1 is great for me. Generally where my parents is, there is zero reception with t-mobile; this is true when if first got the nexus 5x running 6.0. To my surprise after I upgraded the OS, and was over at my parents this weekend, I see the signal bar being 3/4 full with the LTE logo and I was able to use data on it, where as before I wouldn't even dream of making a voice calls
I'm in band 12 Area Tampa using latest build, with LTE Discovery, locks on band 12 but when call is placed it will switch to band 4. So no go on VOLTE Calling for the nexus 5X. Maybe there's a certification process that I'm missing.
godgib said:
I'm in band 12 Area Tampa using latest build, with LTE Discovery, locks on band 12 but when call is placed it will switch to band 4. So no go on VOLTE Calling for the nexus 5X. Maybe there's a certification process that I'm missing.
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I sold my Nexus 5x, but I do have Blackberry PRIV and use it with T-Mobile. In some locations, I do see when device is on Band 12 and placing a call, it switches to Band 4. In other locations it stays on Band 12 when call is initiated.
godgib said:
I'm in band 12 Area Tampa using latest build, with LTE Discovery, locks on band 12 but when call is placed it will switch to band 4. So no go on VOLTE Calling for the nexus 5X. Maybe there's a certification process that I'm missing.
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VOLTE works, or else TM wouldn't have approved B12 for the 5x. Otherwise, in cases where there is only B12, you wouldn't be able to place calls, which is what TM won't allow. The fact that it switches to B4 during a call doesn't mean it doesn't have VOLTE.
Just before call connection is where is switches and I can actually tell the dif between HD calls. B12 works great for data, just not voice. I'm testing it against a T-Mobile note 4, a grad prime and a 6plus. Tried diff APN. No luck

Essential Phone Compatible with Verizon's VOLTE - HD Voice - Band 4 ???

I currently have the HTC U11 and despite loving the phone there is one major drawback for me and that's the lack of Band 4 working for Verizon Wireless. My S8 would get speeds of 50-65mbps on Band 4 and now I only get speeds of 10-15mbps on Band 13 on my HTC U11 which really hurts my tethering. Even though HTC's Unlock U11 show that it is capable of using Band 4, it doesn't work with Verizon.
So my Question is, will Band 4 on the Essential Phone work with Verizon and will VOLTE be present? :fingers-crossed:
Anyone know? Any Ideas?
The Essential Phone’s supported networks/bands are as follows:
UMTS/HSPA+ : 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 , 8
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
CDMA EV-DO Rev A.: 0, 1, 10
TD-SCDMA: 34, 39
FDD-LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 17, 20, 21, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66
TDD-LTE:38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43
Bump, would love to know too... Am deciding on this phone vs pixel 2 on Verizon
I'll let you know as soon as mine arrives.
Same here, with my U11 being stuck to band 13 the phone becomes basically useless during peak hours in the city.
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asvpjimi said:
It currently doesn't have certification on Verizon. Until it does it won't work at all.
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If you have an already activated phone, you can just swap the SIM over and it will work. I just did this with my daughter's phone. No problems so far.
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asvpjimi said:
It currently doesn't have certification on Verizon. Until it does it won't work at all.
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I wish people would stop talking out of their asses. If you don't know the correct answer, don't state something definitively like you do.
I really hope the PH-1 gets HD Voice, I would hate to go back to no being able to use data while in a phone call, those were dark times.
synplex said:
I currently have the HTC U11 and despite loving the phone there is one major drawback for me and that's the lack of Band 4 working for Verizon Wireless. My S8 would get speeds of 50-65mbps on Band 4 and now I only get speeds of 10-15mbps on Band 13 on my HTC U11 which really hurts my tethering. Even though HTC's Unlock U11 show that it is capable of using Band 4, it doesn't work with Verizon.
So my Question is, will Band 4 on the Essential Phone work with Verizon and will VOLTE be present? :fingers-crossed:
Anyone know? Any Ideas?
The Essential Phone’s supported networks/bands are as follows:
UMTS/HSPA+ : 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 , 8
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
CDMA EV-DO Rev A.: 0, 1, 10
TD-SCDMA: 34, 39
FDD-LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 17, 20, 21, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66
TDD-LTE:38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43
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Keep in mind that the U11 "supports" all the bands and cdma just like the essential phone does but It's verizon who's forcing them to disable them via software. If you have root you can actually enable these extra bands and see for yourself. I'll be getting the essential hopefully once it's out as well.
QD2DC said:
Keep in mind that the U11 "supports" all the bands and cdma just like the essential phone does but It's verizon who's forcing them to disable them via software. If you have root you can actually enable these extra bands and see for yourself. I'll be getting the essential hopefully once it's out as well.
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You have a link for how to do that? I searched and came up with nothing, well nothing I felt confident in. If the essential turns out to be a miss I may consider the U11 if I can turn on the volte.
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bkdubya said:
You have a link for how to do that? I searched and came up with nothing, well nothing I felt confident in. If the essential turns out to be a miss I may consider the U11 if I can turn on the volte.
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I hope you're not confusing things. The device only works over VoLTE not CDMA, so VoLTE is already enabled. You're just limited to band 13 by the software.
Now to enable the other bands you need root and the app is called network signal guru. In the settings under experimental you can append missing bands. Then in the 3 dot menu you can enable them under lock bands. I use lte discovery to confirm the band I'm on.
Keep in mind this will allow to connect to other bands but this can also affects battery life since it can jump between bands now. Just depends on your coverage. This also will not enable carrier aggregation since that's software based also and missing.
QD2DC said:
I hope you're not confusing things. The device only works over VoLTE not CDMA, so VoLTE is already enabled. You're just limited to band 13 by the software.
Now to enable the other bands you need root and the app is called network signal guru. In the settings under experimental you can append missing bands. Then in the 3 dot menu you can enable them under lock bands. I use lte discovery to confirm the band I'm on.
Keep in mind this will allow to connect to other bands but this can also affects battery life since it can jump between bands now. Just depends on your coverage. This also will not enable carrier aggregation since that's software based also and missing.
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Sorry misspoke, I meant band 4. I'm in a major metro area most of the time, so I'm not worried about coverage/jumping bands (too much). Thanks!
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bkdubya said:
Sorry misspoke, I meant band 4. I'm in a major metro area most of the time, so I'm not worried about coverage/jumping bands (too much). Thanks!
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Gotcha. And no problem. It really is a shame that Verizon cripples the u11. Here's hoping they don't do the same to the essential.
If you tell me how to check band functionality I will.
Also I *think* volte works, as the enhanced LTE is checked with a description of "Use LTE network to improve voice and other communication quality"
EniGmA1987 said:
If you tell me how to check band functionality I will.
Also I *think* volte works, as the enhanced LTE is checked with a description of "Use LTE network to improve voice and other communication quality"
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On the essentially I'm almost positive VoLTE will work out the box. It's nothing new and even the nexus phone compatible with Verizon had this.
Easy way to test this is to add HD voice to your Verizon line if you haven't already. Reboot the phone and it should just work. I think since you have that option and it's not greyed out means you already do. If you call another Verizon user with VoLTE enabled you'll see the little HD icon when connected.
You can use lte discovery app in the play store to see what band you are currently connected to. Band 13 is there oldest and can be the most congested depending on where you live. Band 2 is newer with band 4 being the newest that supports xlte.
I've been getting server error messages while trying to make outgoing calls. Was also told incoming calls have gone straight to voicemail. Anyone else see this issue?
dragonslee said:
I've been getting server error messages while trying to make outgoing calls. Was also told incoming calls have gone straight to voicemail. Anyone else see this issue?
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hey yeah I encountered the same problem using my Verizon service. The only fix I discovered that worked is to disable "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" within the phone's Cellular neurotic settings menu. Once I unchecked that option, I was then able to make outgoing calls.
On my essential, (got it last night). VoLTE works for sure out of the box, enhanced LTE is checked (was by default. Made a test call to my company provided Verizon s7 edge. I do have the HD icon, (also verified I could surf the web while on a call) hence voice/data simultaneously.
No Wi-Fi calling however.
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On my essential, (got it last night). VoLTE works for sure out of the box, enhanced LTE is checked (was by default. Made a test call to my company provided Verizon s7 edge. I do have the HD icon, (also verified I could surf the web while on a call) hence voice/data simultaneously.
No Wi-Fi calling however.
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Identical experience for me, thankfully. VoLTE working fine, signal strength is good, HD calling sounds fine, calls coming through as they should.
I have to admit: I like this phone a lot more than I thought I would. I might just keep it. Feels great in the hand despite being a heavy square brick, it has that "quality" feel to it that was sort of missing on some past Android devices. It is also way less laggy than my S8.
-Collin-
Figures..no WiFi calling...'effing Verizon. They never allowed WiFi calling on the Nexus 6P (my current​ device). I wouldnt hold my breath.
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