Just wanted to share my experience with the new Radio on 6.0.1 so far it is much better.
1) band 12 active
2) better signal switch even when band 12 is not there it now could lock on to edge or other. I get signal now inside basement where I get nothing before
3) I noticed that the phone also dynamic switch to wifi calling now when it got nothing. It did not do this before
So far so good
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GreenDroidX said:
Just wanted to share my experience with the new Radio on 6.0.1 so far it is much better.
1) band 12 active
2) better signal switch even when band 12 is not there it now could lock on to edge or other. I get signal now inside basement where I get nothing before
3) I noticed that the phone also dynamic switch to wifi calling now when it got nothing. It did not do this before
So far so good
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What is your Wi-Fi calling setting, to prefer Wi-Fi or Cellular?
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What is your Wi-Fi calling setting, to prefer Wi-Fi or Cellular?
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Cellular now before I have to do wifi to get it to switch
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Cellular now before I have to do wifi to get it to switch
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Interesting, I will give it a try when my phone gets OTA update
Any sign of hd voice or volte?
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Any sign of hd voice or volte?
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I don't know about VoLTE but I had HD Voice today
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Volte and HD voice worked on 6.0. I thought that was the norm? It works as well on 6.0.1
Yeah, VOLTE and HD Voice were working from the beginning.
The only thing I have noticed is that my phone seems to take longer to grab signal when I reboot. It shows full signal bars as soon as it turns on but does not connect to data for about 10 seconds. This was instantaneous before so I'm not sure what happened.
Update sometime for the wifi calling to lock on, I still have to restart the phone at time. This aspect still need improvement
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I agree I think it's better than 6.0 radio. It's more reliable and consistent specifically when going through dead-ish cell zones.
I've also noticed that it waits till the very last second to switch to b12 whereas the original radio that was reflashed would swap between band 4 and band 12 very often. It now seems to wait to about -110-115 dbm to switch
I've had great luck with t-mobile service in the Minneapolis, MN area. We have very strong TMO coverage in the cities so I wasn't too worried about it, however it gets slightly better service than my iPhone 5s did (loaned until i could buy the 5X, since i had just switched from Verizon).
radio on 6.0.1 is great for me. Generally where my parents is, there is zero reception with t-mobile; this is true when if first got the nexus 5x running 6.0. To my surprise after I upgraded the OS, and was over at my parents this weekend, I see the signal bar being 3/4 full with the LTE logo and I was able to use data on it, where as before I wouldn't even dream of making a voice calls
I'm in band 12 Area Tampa using latest build, with LTE Discovery, locks on band 12 but when call is placed it will switch to band 4. So no go on VOLTE Calling for the nexus 5X. Maybe there's a certification process that I'm missing.
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I'm in band 12 Area Tampa using latest build, with LTE Discovery, locks on band 12 but when call is placed it will switch to band 4. So no go on VOLTE Calling for the nexus 5X. Maybe there's a certification process that I'm missing.
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I sold my Nexus 5x, but I do have Blackberry PRIV and use it with T-Mobile. In some locations, I do see when device is on Band 12 and placing a call, it switches to Band 4. In other locations it stays on Band 12 when call is initiated.
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I'm in band 12 Area Tampa using latest build, with LTE Discovery, locks on band 12 but when call is placed it will switch to band 4. So no go on VOLTE Calling for the nexus 5X. Maybe there's a certification process that I'm missing.
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VOLTE works, or else TM wouldn't have approved B12 for the 5x. Otherwise, in cases where there is only B12, you wouldn't be able to place calls, which is what TM won't allow. The fact that it switches to B4 during a call doesn't mean it doesn't have VOLTE.
Just before call connection is where is switches and I can actually tell the dif between HD calls. B12 works great for data, just not voice. I'm testing it against a T-Mobile note 4, a grad prime and a 6plus. Tried diff APN. No luck
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Has anyone else noticed on T-Mobile that LTE drops to edge frequently? Or is it just me? I have to force LTE every 5-10min if I set my phone down and its rather annoying.
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This was happening to me a few days ago. The problem has now gone away.
If you're like me and rooted with xposed this is what I did to fix it. I disabled all the modules in xposed, restarted, and selected one by one to find the culprit. Ended up being gravity box causing the issue. Hope this helps.
I am having the same issue with LTE on a Canadian carrier. Are there any fixes without rooting the phone?
On T-Mobile and been noticing this as well. I honestly think the lack of Band 12 may be a contributing factor (at least in my case). I recently got a Nexus 6 and have been using it for the past day or so ... Monitoring signal with the app LTE Discovery I am noticing that in areas where I'd lose LTE on the X my N6 is switching from Band 4 to Band 12 and maintaining LTE coverage.
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I had the same issue as well but I reset the the apn to default and no issue in 2 days. Not saying it will fix your problem but it worked for me...
After having my phone a few more days I feel like its a T-Mobile issue, I reset my phone (still rooted) and switched to the nano sim included with my phone (old sim was from my old moto x) and I've had less dropouts, but if the phone sits idle for a while or I'm walking around my house it sometimes drops to 2g, then drops signal, and I force a reconnect to LTE.
I thought the X had band 12? But I guess I thought wrong?
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After having my phone a few more days I feel like its a T-Mobile issue, I reset my phone (still rooted) and switched to the nano sim included with my phone (old sim was from my old moto x) and I've had less dropouts, but if the phone sits idle for a while or I'm walking around my house it sometimes drops to 2g, then drops signal, and I force a reconnect to LTE.
I thought the X had band 12? But I guess I thought wrong?
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My understanding is Motorola is in the process of getting band 12 certified with T-Mobile. I have not heard of it being approved at this time.
Anybody got it with tmo? Im planning to buy one, I dont use volte, can i still have 4G or LTE? Can i still use regular calls? How is the band 12 works anyways?
Band 12 is just another band at a different frequency. 700Mhz. Penetrates buldings better, does not affect functionality at all. VoLTE works. 4G works. Regular calls work. It will be fantastic on TMo. Even better once band 12 is approved and if it's available in your area.
In short and to the point. Band 12 being available for you or not will not affect any phone feature at all if you currently get great LTE coverage. Get one!
Thank you for the info
On reddit AMA, a google rep said band 12 would be functioning by ship date. Seeing as the 6P has been shipping has anyone been able to confirm band 12 support?
My 6P has been working perfectly on T-Mobile with WiFi Calling and VoLTE. However MMS is slow to send/receive. Like 10-15 min slow (the MMS will send normally, like 10 seconds but the recipient will not receive for the delayed time).
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I can confirm b12 is NOT working. Though VoLTE and Wifi calling handoff work perfectly. Sounds excellent with you're talking someone with HD calling compatible.
They have 12/VoLTE working on Fi already which bodes well for them being well along toward getting VoLTE lit up on Tmo so 12 can be enabled there.
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They have 12/VoLTE working on Fi already which bodes well for them being well along toward getting VoLTE lit up on Tmo so 12 can be enabled there.
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Interesting. I've heard that project fi does not use VoLTE on either T-Mobile or Sprint. Several people have mentioned that the phone drops out of LTE when making calls.
I'm going on a screenshot posted over on AC, maybe one of the fi boys will read this and clear it up.
This link was posted by another user, seems to clarify things slightly: http://forums.androidcentral.com/nexus-6p/600054-t-mobile-band-12-supported-project-fi.html
Band 12 is not activated on Fi or T-Mobile yet. I live in a band 12 only area. Its a disappointment to not get lte right now lol
and they said they will have it before they start shipping the phones smh
It will come. I'm good for now with wifi calling and my home WiFi. But I'd like it for when I'm traveling
Would there be any way to mod it enabled for T-Mobile?
Can anyone comment whether or not WiFi calling works with phone calls/SMS/MMS? Please verify that it works with all of those, both receiving and sending, in particular MMS because this has been an issue with past phones. Thanks!
WiFi calling works for all of those.
Anyone else notice after the update, during calls your data will force down to H from LTE? Same issue with Nexus 5 and 6p.
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Anyone else notice after the update, during calls your data will force down to H from LTE? Same issue with Nexus 5 and 6p.
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Not an issue. Is a feature so that you can get better reception for your phone call.
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Not an issue. Is a feature so that you can get better reception for your phone call.
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Not true. LTE is the better reception for calls. Look up the difference in technology.
As for why and if the latest update drops when making calls... I haven't seen it myself so I can't comment.
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Not true. LTE is the better reception for calls. Look up the difference in technology.
As for why and if the latest update drops when making calls... I haven't seen it myself so I can't comment.
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Can you disconnect from WiFi, see if you get LTE, then make a call see what happens. This is after the latest update today.
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Not true. LTE is the better reception for calls. Look up the difference in technology.
As for why and if the latest update drops when making calls... I haven't seen it myself so I can't comment.
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2g gives better reception than 3g, 3g better than 4g and so on. LTE gives faster data speed but if you want better reception 2g it is.
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Which carrier. Unless you have VOLTE that has always happened.
I noticed the same thing on ATT. During a phone call the phone drops to H. This is not normal, my nexus 5 remains on LTE since I didn't upgrade that phone.
Curious if there's a fix for this.
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Can you disconnect from WiFi, see if you get LTE, then make a call see what happens. This is after the latest update today.
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While in a call I'm still on LTE. Yes I'm on the latest update.
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2g gives better reception than 3g, 3g better than 4g and so on. LTE gives faster data speed but if you want better reception 2g it is.
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I think you got it backwards. It may be true that in some areas 2G may give you a better signal strength than 3G but that has nothing to do with technology and the amount of data which can go through and that includes calls (yes calls are also data and has been for many years since it all went digital).
LTE is just another, newer standard of GSM for calls, text, data and so on.
Also, VoLTE is not the same as VoIP.
Not had any issues from the uk. I generally get 4g. The radios on this phone far suprass the ones on my old xperia Z2.
Anyway didn't i see a post saying that the update disabled a certain band for T-Mobile? Maybe it's to do with that
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Not had any issues from the uk. I generally get 4g.
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Did you read the thread?
The only network in the UK that supports VoLTE (calls while you are on a 4G network) is Three and they don't sell or support the Nexus 6P, so you certainly haven't been getting 4G while you are on a call.
Plain LTE does not support voice, it is only for data. When your phone receives a call it will automatically use H/3g or even 2g for your voice call. Unless your operator supports Voice over LTE (VoLTE)!
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Same thing. Though voice doesn't use LTE always. LTE is just for data.
mkouk said:
Plain LTE does not support voice, it is only for data. When your phone receives a call it will automatically use H/3g or even 2g for your voice call. Unless your operator supports Voice over LTE (VoLTE)!
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I'm not sure you guys understand how LTE works and what it is supposed to do. LTE is just another standard which is better than the old GSM type 3G. It's just that carriers chose to use it only for data because the entire infrastructure was already designed to work on 3G for voice. The transition to full LTE system is taking a bit long but watch when next year Verizon shuts down all 3G CDMA equipment and goes LTE only on the entire network.
T-Mobile will most likely follow along with all the others.
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I'm not sure you guys understand how LTE works and what it is supposed to do. LTE is just another standard which is better than the old GSM type 3G. It's just that carriers chose to use it only for data because the entire infrastructure was already designed to work on 3G for voice. The transition to full LTE system is taking a bit long but watch when next year Verizon shuts down all 3G CDMA equipment and goes LTE only on the entire network.
T-Mobile will most likely follow along with all the others.
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Please don't spread misinformation. LTE standard only supports packet switching so carriers have been using circuit switched fallback (i.e. 3g) for regular calls and we are now seeing operators moving to VoLTE.
Also LTE is based on GSM!
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Please don't spread misinformation. LTE standard only supports packet switching so carriers have been using circuit switched fallback (i.e. 3g) for regular calls and we are now seeing operators moving to VoLTE.
Also LTE is based on GSM!
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I'm not sure where the misinformation is.
The argument here is that the older systems are somehow better at voice than LTE is and one gets a better signal with 2G for being able to make a call. This is simply not true. LTE supports voice with the implementation of VoLTE and is much superior at handling it. More capacity, clearer calls and better quality calls with much weaker signal strength.
Again, carriers chose to implement it as data only because of many older handsets still out there using 2G/3G. But this will not be for long because LTE is much more efficient which spells $$$ for carriers. Verizon has already started turning off their legacy CDMA system on some towers.
Also, when did I say LTE was not based on GSM?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/VoLTE
I have a love/hate relationship with Verizon . My Note 3 is soon to be long in the tooth when marshmallow is more imperative than it is now, i'll likely buy a 6P. So , I am planning for a few months in the future. I l,ike the idea of buying a 6P to see if the stronger radio end my problems with verizon at home-- and if not i will move to t-moble or Fi.
1. are there any major advances hi tech verizon service that do not easily function on the 6p?
2. t-mobile's band 12, wifi calling and hi def will they are ultimately work well on the 6p?
when everything is a fixed as it will get, i will figure out what to do
i would appreciate thoughts and suggestion from those more knowledgeable then i am.
I'm currently on T-Mobile and band 12, WiFi calling, and HD voice all work on my Nexus 6P after the most recent 6.0.1 update. I can't comment on Verizon though since I'm not on that network.
I'm on verizon. I don't use visual voicemail, but I've read that people have had trouble with it. So if you use it, you might want to look into that. Otherwise, VOLTE (having LTE active while on a call) works great. I used to have a Note 3 and hated the signal strength that i had. With the 6p, signal's been great. I used to switch to 3g all the time at work and even at home sometimes. With the 6p, i've not had a single instance of it switching to 3g.
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I'm on verizon. I don't use visual voicemail, but I've read that people have had trouble with it. So if you use it, you might want to look into that. Otherwise, VOLTE (having LTE active while on a call) works great. I used to have a Note 3 and hated the signal strength that i had. With the 6p, signal's been great. I used to switch to 3g all the time at work and even at home sometimes. With the 6p, i've not had a single instance of it switching to 3g.
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I have been using the 6P on Verizon for over a month now. Below are my thoughts:
1) Visual voicemail does not work, but you can use youmail or Google Voice without issues.
2) Signal has been outstanding. I came from the 6s plus which would drop to 3G all the time. This has not been an issue on the 6P.
3) VoLTE works flawlessly.
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I have been using the 6P on Verizon for over a month now. Below are my thoughts:
1) Visual voicemail does not work, but you can use youmail or Google Voice without issues.
2) Signal has been outstanding. I came from the 6s plus which would drop to 3G all the time. This has not been an issue on the 6P.
3) VoLTE works flawlessly.
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I have a iPhone 6 Plus for work, also on Verizon. My 6p has been much better for signal strength.
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Bob in miami, fl
I have both a Verizon and T-Mobile SIM that I swap between my 6P and have no problems. I get band 13 and 4 on Verizon and bands 2, 4, and 12 on T-Mobile. I easily get around 100Mbps on both carriers. I don't use WiFi calling however.
does wifi calling on t-moble work with:
-t-mobile; or
-project Fi
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do t-mobile advanced features and band 12 work with project Fi?
i travel by car from miami, fl to orlando
-verizon has good coverage in the rural ares
-does t-mobile or project Fi have good coverage from pt st lucie to south of orlando eg yee haw junction[this is a real town]???
So far I have been using T-mobile and it has been outstanding (Actually T-mobile is better than AT&T's coverage) and when it hits, it switches to a different network with the roaming stuff. For the voicemail, there is an excellent app called youmail, which is better than the normal voice mail because you can customize a lot of stuff in it.
I have ATT. Earlier this year I noticed that my service was pretty bad. At home I would not get service and if I did, it would go on/off. My wife has the Note 5 and she does not have that problem. At the time I had the LeeCo Le Pro 3 phone. I thought it was the phone because I dropped it a few times. So when the OP5 came out, I bought it on the first day. When I got it, I noticed that the problem was still there. I called att and the rep said it was because they turned off the 2g signal at the beginning of the year and the 3g/4g in my area was poor. The reason my wife's Note 5 don't have this issue was because her phone supports wifi calling and mine didn't. The only way to get a new phone.
So is there a way to test to see how good my reception is on the phone compared to my wife's phone?
The OnePlus 5 also supports WiFi calling. At least on T-Mobile, I have no problems. The options are in the SIM settings.
To test cell reception, you can download an app on the play store on both phones to give you a number. Just search "cell reception" or "signal strength". I have not personally use any app.
Try LTE Discovery on both phones.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
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Devhux said:
Try LTE Discovery on both phones.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
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Can you help me figure out what it means?
OP5 :
LTE : N/A
HSPA+: -130.0 dBm
Att Note 5
LTE: -118.0 dBm
GSM: -113.0 dBm
Pretty much what the AT&T rep said. - 130dBm is a completely unusable 3G (HSPA) signal. The Note 5 has a barely adequate LTE signal, and the 2G (GSM) signal is very poor too.
In general, signals below - 115dBm or so will lead to dropped/choppy calls. The Note 5 might have a slightly better antenna (allowing for the weak LTE signal), but it's still very poor.
Unfortunately, I believe AT&T is similar to the Canadian carriers I use, in that VoLTE or WiFi calling is only available for some of the devices they sell. Sadly this doesn't help your case as you'd probably need Wi-Fi calling to have reliable service where you are
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I had the same problem with Cricket (which uses the AT&T network). I wouldn't be able to make or receive calls in half the rooms in my apartment. I switched to Project Fi and then when I got the OnePlus to MintSim (which uses the T-Mobile network). WiFi calling does work on this phone with MintSim/TMobile although the cell signal is also very strong. You probably don't have any good options that involve staying on AT&T. If you have a contract and can't switch then you would need a phone that supports WiFi calling for AT&T.