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Battery thread

How is the battery holding up for most folks?
I've been using Atrix for a few hours tonight (perhaps a bit more than normal use was on my Nexus) and I've already used 50%. Thats pretty crappy for whats proclaimed to be a large, long-lasting battery.
What should I be doing to improve battery life on this device?
Thanks.

I've seen the same poor battery performance. I'm hoping after being on the charger all night I'll see the battery performance that I've read about.

nexusonemeover said:
How is the battery holding up for most folks?
I've been using Atrix for a few hours tonight (perhaps a bit more than normal use was on my Nexus) and I've already used 50%. Thats pretty crappy for whats proclaimed to be a large, long-lasting battery.
What should I be doing to improve battery life on this device?
Thanks.
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It's called "New Battery Syndrome give it a week, you will settle into your normal usage pattern and you will really see fantastic battery life.
Pretty much, you have a new toy, you want to play with it as much as possible, thus you run it more than you may have used your previous devices thus effectively running the battery down faster.

Mine seems to be pretty great. Have had the display on for about two hours straight and it only drained 20%

naturefreak probably nailed it. most batteries seem to last longer after they've been discharged and recharged a few times.... on top of playing with it for probably just about the entire day..... BOUND to see less-than-expected battery life.

Do you think that a non-removable battery will be a problem?

I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S5, and I'm seriously thinking about upgrading to the S7 Edge...however the fact that I can't change my battery is one of the problems I'm afraid of. I'm a hardcore gamer, and after 2 years, my battery for the S5 was dying quickly, so I had to change it. I started using the phone almost all day to play Marvel Future Fight towards the past 6 months and that is what really messed up my battery I think. So I'm wondering if I upgrade...if the phone will last 2 or so years? Cause I ain't got the money to be upgrading every 6 months or every year lol.
What are your thoughts?

Even tho it doesn't has a removable battery like your s5, you can still have the battery replaced by Samsung. Downside is that you can't carry an extra battery with you in case you run out of battery during the day.

So I came from the LG V10 with free extra battery promo. I went through 2-3 full charges a day. I've been on this battery since 8am today. It's 5:49pm and I'm at 54%!
Oops sorry... Just realized you're more worried about the battery's ability to hold charge down the road.
Haven't owned a phone more than 6 months so I'm not sure lol. You could always get one of the charging cases later on when prices drop.

Travis Bickle said:
Even tho it doesn't has a removable battery like your s5, you can still have the battery replaced by Samsung. Downside is that you can't carry an extra battery with you in case you run out of battery during the day.
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Can you really? Don't they charge extra?
cyi1 said:
So I came from the LG V10 with free extra battery promo. I went through 2-3 full charges a day. I've been on this battery since 8am today. It's 5:49pm and I'm at 54%!
Oops sorry... Just realized you're more worried about the battery's ability to hold charge down the road.
Haven't owned a phone more than 6 months so I'm not sure lol. You could always get one of the charging cases later on when prices drop.
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Lol yeah the battery lasting long sounds amazing, but after 6 months of gaming every day, I'm sure it will take a toll The charging cases sound like a pretty good idea though.

It does costs more than getting an extra battery for your s5, but you won't have to pay for a new phone every 1-2 years. Nowadays most phones have non-removable batteries, except for the Lg G5, but it has a 2800 mAh battery when the s7 edge has a 3600 mAh.

it's not an issue in the sense that no one keeps a phone 4 years nowadays. For instance, using a QC 2.0 adaptor shortens the battery life, however over 1 or 2 years, it is barely noticeable. It is noticeable only if you keep your phone for years and years. But most people change every year.
These batteries are good, they're not super cheap, so it will be ok. Samsung replaces the battery only if it's really defective, not if you lost like 5-10% of the battery charge.

I have two bloated S5 batteries first lasted 18 months and second lasted 6 months which was last week. I was a very heavy user and my phones over heat. My old HTC EVO had to be in the freezer a lot and had 5-6 batteries. But I believe a with normal use the battery should last 24 months. I have been thinking of putting phone on discharge timer to plug in and unplug.

spyderdreams said:
I have two bloated S5 batteries first lasted 18 months and second lasted 6 months which was last week. I was a very heavy user and my phones over heat. My old HTC EVO had to be in the freezer a lot and had 5-6 batteries. But I believe a with normal use the battery should last 24 months. I have been thinking of putting phone on discharge timer to plug in and unplug.
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I've never had an issue with my S6 Edge that I'm trading in for the S7 Edge.

Travis Bickle said:
It does costs more than getting an extra battery for your s5, but you won't have to pay for a new phone every 1-2 years. Nowadays most phones have non-removable batteries, except for the Lg G5, but it has a 2800 mAh battery when the s7 edge has a 3600 mAh.
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True that, but would they just replace your battery or the whole phone itself? Like would I have to back up my data?
vivelafrance said:
it's not an issue in the sense that no one keeps a phone 4 years nowadays. For instance, using a QC 2.0 adaptor shortens the battery life, however over 1 or 2 years, it is barely noticeable. It is noticeable only if you keep your phone for years and years. But most people change every year.
These batteries are good, they're not super cheap, so it will be ok. Samsung replaces the battery only if it's really defective, not if you lost like 5-10% of the battery charge.
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That's very true, and I had no idea that QC 2.0 shortens battery life, does QC 3.0 do that? I know we'll be getting that with the wireless charging. Regarding replacing the battery, what do you mean by "really defective"? What do they consider defective? I find that loosing 5-10% battery charge in less than an hour really defective lol.
spyderdreams said:
I have two bloated S5 batteries first lasted 18 months and second lasted 6 months which was last week. I was a very heavy user and my phones over heat. My old HTC EVO had to be in the freezer a lot and had 5-6 batteries. But I believe a with normal use the battery should last 24 months. I have been thinking of putting phone on discharge timer to plug in and unplug.
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Damn, well I'm barley on my second battery after almost 2 years lol. My S5 overheats a lot now and sometimes I don't use it much. It lags a lot and sometimes messages don't send..so I really need a new phone. :/ How do you put the phone on a "discharge timer"? I'm thinking of not leaving my phone overnight charging cause that's how the battery messes up more I heard. I probably also won't play games while charging my phone either cause that'll kill the battery's longevity more than usual.

Leelouster said:
True that, but would they just replace your battery or the whole phone itself? Like would I have to back up my data?
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They will replace just the battery, for the s7/s7 edge they use heat to open the back cover and they replace the battery. On the s6 they also had to remove the screen in order to get access to the battery (you can watch videos of how they do it).
From a quick search online, it costs $45 + shipping to replace the battery on the s6 in the US, I could be wrong as I have no personal experience.

I know we're talking about different device's but my z ultra (heavily used) and Z3CT both still rock battery like the day I bought them. Hence why I'm not worried to much. Don't let it put you off a device also you could always change battery after a while just a little bit harder to do lol.
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My previous phone was the S5 and I wasn't to happy about going to a phone that doesn't have a removable battery seeing as all my phones had a removable battery. That is one reason why I went with the S7 Edge so I wouldn't have to worry about the battery as much.
With my S5 and before that my S3 I would just keep the phone plugged up if I was playing a game that used a lot of battery.
Get the S7 you'll like it.

Travis Bickle said:
They will replace just the battery, for the s7/s7 edge they use heat to open the back cover and they replace the battery. On the s6 they also had to remove the screen in order to get access to the battery (you can watch videos of how they do it).
From a quick search online, it costs $45 + shipping to replace the battery on the s6 in the US, I could be wrong as I have no personal experience.
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Ah that's cool That's actually not that bad Thank you for your very informative post and for bothering to look up the information for me. I appreciate it
marcgear said:
I know we're talking about different device's but my z ultra (heavily used) and Z3CT both still rock battery like the day I bought them. Hence why I'm not worried to much. Don't let it put you off a device also you could always change battery after a while just a little bit harder to do lol.
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Nice, I just hope the S7 is the same way lol. Sure, we can always change the battery after awhile and it'll be harder to do, but it'll be more expensive than just buying a battery outright like someone said earlier in this post But...it'll be worth it lol.
Sk17z0 said:
My previous phone was the S5 and I wasn't to happy about going to a phone that doesn't have a removable battery seeing as all my phones had a removable battery. That is one reason why I went with the S7 Edge so I wouldn't have to worry about the battery as much.
With my S5 and before that my S3 I would just keep the phone plugged up if I was playing a game that used a lot of battery.
Get the S7 you'll like it.
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Yeah, that's exactly how I feel lol. I've been doing that with the S5 and before that the S3 and I really do feel like it kills the battery's life more while leaving it plugged in while playing a game. :/ But I already pre-ordered the phone today from T-Mobile so I should have it in 3 days or less

Leelouster said:
True that, but would they just replace your battery or the whole phone itself? Like would I have to back up my data?
That's very true, and I had no idea that QC 2.0 shortens battery life, does QC 3.0 do that? I know we'll be getting that with the wireless charging. Regarding replacing the battery, what do you mean by "really defective"? What do they consider defective? I find that loosing 5-10% battery charge in less than an hour really defective lol.
Damn, well I'm barley on my second battery after almost 2 years lol. My S5 overheats a lot now and sometimes I don't use it much. It lags a lot and sometimes messages don't send..so I really need a new phone. :/ How do you put the phone on a "discharge timer"? I'm thinking of not leaving my phone overnight charging cause that's how the battery messes up more I heard. I probably also won't play games while charging my phone either cause that'll kill the battery's longevity more than usual.
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restarting repeatedly harmful?

so I bought the phone few days ago and the first thing I did was to empty the battery as advised, at about 20 % I was sleepy as hell and I wanted to drain the battery faster so the first thing came to my mind (and I regret that) was restarting the phone repeatedly so it would drain very fast , and I blindly did so , what a stupid idea! I did an approximate number of 15 restarts I guess with about 2 mins between each restart, sooo I am ready to take the consequences so what are they? what should I expect for the next few days? battery failure,cpu failure, ram failure, or even software failure?? the first 2 things I notice the battery now drain a little bit faster and the phone gets warmer faster than before

I don't think this will cause any harm at all. It's not like the phone takes a voltage surge during start up.
OTOH, there's no benefit to "conditioning" a lithium ion battery. If anything, it's counterproductive. Li batteries don't like being fully discharged or overcharged. Keep it between 25% and 75% as much as possible, and it will last the longest.

meyerweb said:
I don't think this will cause any harm at all. It's not like the phone takes a voltage surge during start up.
OTOH, there's no benefit to "conditioning" a lithium ion battery. If anything, it's counterproductive. Li batteries don't like being fully discharged or overcharged. Keep it between 25% and 75% as much as possible, and it will last the longest.
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OMG thank u so much I was so worried cos I have a bad history of damaging and breaking stuff especially electronic stuff so u don't recommend me to fully charge it? 75% for maximum?? and rebooting is it safe in general?

Charging it fully won't really hurt anything. The phone's circuitry won't let the battery overcharge. But the battery will probably have a slightly longer life if it doesn't get charged to 100% all the time. Battery life is good enough that I can generally take mine off the charger at around 75% and can still get a full day out of it. But if I leave it on to 100% I don't worry about it. And if you like to charge yours overnight and it always goes to 100%, don't worry about that, either.
And yes, it's perfectly fine to reboot the phone. I generally reboot mine every couple of weeks. It seems to clear out some of the stuff that builds up in memory and runs a little smoother.

No, but draining the battery does, especially draining it fast.
When will these stupid myths about a totally different and obsolete battery technology die?

meyerweb said:
Charging it fully won't really hurt anything. The phone's circuitry won't let the battery overcharge. But the battery will probably have a slightly longer life if it doesn't get charged to 100% all the time. Battery life is good enough that I can generally take mine off the charger at around 75% and can still get a full day out of it. But if I leave it on to 100% I don't worry about it. And if you like to charge yours overnight and it always goes to 100%, don't worry about that, either.
And yes, it's perfectly fine to reboot the phone. I generally reboot mine every couple of weeks. It seems to clear out some of the stuff that builds up in memory and runs a little smoother.
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thank u for the information, I appreciate ur help

jacobgong said:
No, but draining the battery does, especially draining it fast.
When will these stupid myths about a totally different and obsolete battery technology die?
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now I believe it's a myth too, but hey aren't some apps like games considered as battery-hungry apps? they drain batteries so fast too!!

I hope this is a joke..
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jack1001 said:
now I believe it's a myth too, but hey aren't some apps like games considered as battery-hungry apps? they drain batteries so fast too!!
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Lithium-ion batteries degrade predictably throughout usage cycles, so the more you use them the more you reduce their total capacity. They're also more vulnerable to such degradation while under high temperatures, like when you drain them very fast by restarting the device. And yes, also if you're playing games. Obviously there's no point in getting a nice phone if you're not even gonna use it, but you can choose to spend those battery cycles on meaningful usage like playing games, rather than pointlessly restarting the device.

This is a classic example of thinking too hard. Just use and enjoy the phone and charge it when it needs charging.

Brava27 said:
I hope this is a joke..
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unfortunately it's not, but what is ironic? the question itsels or what I did?

daz_2000 said:
This is a classic example of thinking too hard. Just use and enjoy the phone and charge it when it needs charging.
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sensible words,I will,thank you

Are these battery numbers normal nowadays? Need opinion/comparison with other users

Help me out here, I think my G2 which used to be a battery champ is now absolutely awful. I don't really know if it's the phone going wrong or my different usage and the way apps might have evolved.
I think the phone is also heating up way more than it used to do. In fact, I never used to notice the phone getting warm at all and never knew what people with SD810 phones were talking about. If I happen to run a game like Boom Beach or Fallout Shelter for 5 minutes, not only the battery suffers a huge drop, the phone gets almost uncomfortably hot (*). These games can kill the battery in 1:30 hours of SOT which I think isn't probably normal.
The numbers I now have to show are of the phone fully charged last night before going to bed, turning the phone off and then turning it on to clean running ups, etc and left idle while sleeping.
Went to bed with a full battery at around 4:30 AM and it's now 15:46 and battery is down to 64%. Turned the screen at 13:00 to see notifications and browse through news, made a single phone call that must have lasted less than 10 minutes. Pictures, although I think they won't help much except for the SOT:
I bought this phone used and I think it was refurbished. Came from Spain (I'm in Portugal) and happens to be an AT&T version. Screen was always a bit dark and a panel that I believe has been replaced. I think the screen is also going, sometimes it won't respond to touches on the far right edge.
I have it running on the official Lollipop firmware that I manually flashed (no OTA here) but I've tried different ROMs to see if they make any difference (Cloudy 2.2 and 3.3., CM13 and Blisspop Marshmallow). They don't, battery behavior is the same, phone heats up.
I need to know if this is normal for you guys still using the phone (software evolves and maybe things are more demanding on this old phone) or if something is wrong with mine. If it is, I need to think about sending it for repair (probably not worth it) or get a new one.
Not the best of times for me to be spending money on stuff like this but I'm really starting not to trust this phone, carrying the charger with me all the time and have a nasty suspetion screen might die for good one of these days.
Any feedback much appreciated!!
(*) Gets hot mainly on the top back, near the camera lens. Sometimes screen gets also hot but I think it might be due to heat transfer from the back.

I would replace the battery. Li-on batteries typically don't last for more than two to three years. Useful life span depends on how deep the average usage cycle is. I typically try to keep them from going below 40%. An old battery that no longer holds a good charge can cause similar problems. Most rechargeable batteries, including lead-acid automotive batteries in general, suffer from deep cycle charging.
My $0.02
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SofaSpud said:
I would replace the battery. Li-on batteries typically don't last for more than two to three years. Useful life span depends on how deep the average usage cycle is. I typically try to keep them from going below 40%. An old battery that no longer holds a good charge can cause similar problems. Most rechargeable batteries, including lead-acid automotive batteries in general, suffer from deep cycle charging.
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Yeh, I know...
I tested it a bit more and at least now I know it is definitely draining way faster than it ever did and I don't see anything that is especially killing the battery (kept off games that I don't even play so much anyway). Oh well, time for a new one I guess. I have been postponing buying one until all these new 2016 main phones came out and they are all pretty much out already.

After running certain apps, or sometimes after connecting to USB in the car, the G2 will go into an overheating condition, with the battery charge rapidly falling. I just reboot it to clear it, and it's back to normal.

SofaSpud said:
After running certain apps, or sometimes after connecting to USB in the car, the G2 will go into an overheating condition, with the battery charge rapidly falling. I just reboot it to clear it, and it's back to normal.
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Tried that, even made two more factory re-sets. No good, same results... poor thing is going, I'm already convinced of that. It's draining about 1% per minute with screen on, regardless of what I'm doing. About 12% drain with it just sitting on my night table for 6 hours while I was sleeping.
Trying to find a replacement now which is driving me insane.

Kutusov said:
Tried that, even made two more factory re-sets. No good, same results... poor thing is going, I'm already convinced of that. It's draining about 1% per minute with screen on, regardless of what I'm doing. About 12% drain with it just sitting on my night table for 6 hours while I was sleeping.
Trying to find a replacement now which is driving me insane.
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Well, replacement batteries are a lot cheaper than phones. Why not replace the battery, and squeeze a little more life out of it? Would also serve as a backup phone after you do get a replacement.
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SofaSpud said:
Well, replacement batteries are a lot cheaper than phones. Why not replace the battery, and squeeze a little more life out of it? Would also serve as a backup phone after you do get a replacement.
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I'm pretty sure battery isn't the only thing going bad, screen sometimes doesn't respond or respond weird. Mine is already a refurbished unit that I bought because it was the best, cheapest and quicker to get phone after drowning the one I had before. It's not factory refurnished though, some guy in a shed did it. Worked very well until now though but I prefer just to get something that is new instead of paying for the repair of one thing and having another breaking the week after that.
It's going to be either another G2 (found one that seems to be an unused unit but seller hasn't got back to me yet and it would cost pretty much the same or less than a battery/screen replacement) or I'll just get some other recent flagshipy phone that will allow me not to think about phones for at least the next 3 years. Not really sure what that would be but hey..

Nexus 6P Replaced battery health

Hi all,
Recently I have exchanged a battery at a local service provider, battery they showed before installation seemed as legit as they come and after replacement phone felt way more agile especially at a lower battery charge levels. So I was happy until I started investigating poor SoT that I thought at the time was due to the Oreo update. After some time, resets and reinstalls it feels like the system is as healthy as it can be for now, but Accubattery shows 83% health at 2,853 mAh out of designed 3,450 mAh. That is only after few charge cycles, but I am still worried that it might a permanent battery hardware issue. Right now at latest Oreo build with elementalx kernel running a wingoku gov profile I get around 3 to 3,5 hours of SoT with little use, over night after 100% charge phone looses around 10% percent by the time I wake up.
If anyone has any insight into similar issues and can confirm Accubattery health stats credibility I would really appreciate.

nnaryshkin said:
......but Accubattery shows 83% health at 2,853 mAh out of designed 3,450 mAh. That is only after few charge cycles, but I am still worried that it might a permanent battery hardware issue.
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Sorry, but you got a bad replacement battery. It happens. Although it just provides an estimated value, I've found Accubattery to be a very solid indicator on the phones I've used it on. Since your battery is barely above 80% it takes the guesswork out of the equation. The battery capacity estimate converges quickly to a value after only about 3-4 charges. That's it. It's not something else with the phone. It is the battery itself. There are literally dozens of threads discussing which batteries are good replacements and from which sources. Buy one of those and your problem will be solved. There are some Accubattery haters out there, but I guarantee based on what you are saying, your battery is a dud. With a fresh, high quality battery you should be seeing very high 90's to low 100's. Yes higher than 100% because some batteries sold actually have a higher capacity than rated. Try to get one of those.

Thank you for a reply.
At this point I guess I will just have to live with it until I buy a new phone, I only decided to give this one another go since I love it and do not see anything on the market now that would appeal to me as much as 6P did at purchase. But I do not want to spend more money and time on this, just wanted to make sure this is not a software issue. Software I can tweak, but battery replacement yet again is too much.