Can any developer can poart turbo charging to OPX:angel:
Well, no.
The X has Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 MSM8974AB v3, the AB variant has some heavy downsides compared to the AA variant, Turbo charging, or better known as Quick Charge being one of them.
@RJDTWO can explain better.
Joshwin Aranha said:
Well, no.
The X has Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 MSM8974AB v3, the AB variant has some heavy downsides compared to the AA variant, Turbo charging, or better known as Quick Charge being one of them.
@RJDTWO can explain better.
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Actually we have the AA model. We just have an over clocked GPU.
Looking more at my kernel, theoretically we can reach 2100mA without doing any harm whatsoever HOWEVER something is capping it at 1600 (for all I know, our battery monitor is really inaccurate on this phone) and it may be the chipset. I don't believe it meets Qualcomms specs for QC
using a 3 amp charger will make any difference ?
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using a 3 amp charger will make any difference ?
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Yep, you would then be able to use your device as a toaster and maybe a paperweight too!
To be honest if you're just getting used to using this phone (or don't have it yet) it charges really fast compared to a lot of others. Mine goes from 0 to 100 in 1 and half hours while using it with the stock charger.
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Be a waste of money. Your phone only draws what it needs. At lower battery percentage draws around 1100mA. Then closer to 80% draw drops to around 750mA. A good way to check is the app Ampere from playstore. I thought my X was having issues with my car charger. When I checked with this app found out it was a bad cable.
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Actually we have the AA model. We just have an over clocked GPU.
Looking more at my kernel, theoretically we can reach 2100mA without doing any harm whatsoever HOWEVER something is capping it at 1600 (for all I know, our battery monitor is really inaccurate on this phone) and it may be the chipset. I don't believe it meets Qualcomms specs for QC
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Thanks for the clarification
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Be a waste of money. Your phone only draws what it needs. At lower battery percentage draws around 1100mA. Then closer to 80% draw drops to around 750mA. A good way to check is the app Ampere from playstore. I thought my X was having issues with my car charger. When I checked with this app found out it was a bad cable.
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Yes ampere works like a charm, if you want to check how much current your phone is taking. And normally 850 mah is default for me using sony's greenheart charger still the phone gets around full from 0 to 100, in 2 and half hrs. Iphone chargers charge at almost 2 hrs.
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Thanks for the reply
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No need to ever post thanks in XDA. Just hit the thumbs up(thanks) button under every post you are thankful for.
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I'm using the stock charger fyi
So I'm using the slimport adapter from whoever does it and I playing ePSXe emulator and even when charging my battery is draining....any way to charge more than the drain?
godman_8 said:
I'm using the stock charger fyi
So I'm using the slimport adapter from whoever does it and I playing ePSXe emulator and even when charging my battery is draining....any way to charge more than the drain?
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Try a different charger... My stock charger isn't any good TBH.
You need one with the most amps out you can find. There is also an app where you can turn off your backlight when your mirroring the display.
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You need one with the most amps out you can find
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Even though you can find stuff of up to 2.1A. I wouldn't recommend anything more than 1.5A though.
Higher A -> hotter -> shorter battery life
Also, it *might* ignite your device. This happens once in a while.
Not true at all.
The higher the amps the better (to an extent), the phone will only draw the amps it needs.
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Not true at all.
The higher the amps the better (to an extent), the phone will only draw the amps it needs.
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May I ask, why would one want a 2.1 A charger (assuming rating is correct and the charger is capable of providing 2.0-2.2A constantly), if the phone could only draw 1.2 A?
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May I ask, why would one want a 2.1 A charger (assuming rating is correct and the charger is capable of providing 2.0-2.2A constantly), if the phone could only draw 1.2 A?
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Because "one" does not know that the phone can only draw 1.2A and therefore thinks he buys something useful.
Just think about it: If everything would use as much ampere as available your electricity bill would be impossible to pay. A normal power socket can provide around 13A which means everything that is plugged into the socket would constantly use about 3000W.
An electronic device only uses as much Ampere as it needs.
I am assuming these, correct me if I am wrong.
You don't know how many Amps the Nexus can draw.
You probably don't know the temperature profile of the battery.
But you do know higher temperature is not good for the battery.
Yet you recommend the man to get as many Amps as he can find around.
And the highest Amps he can find around was designed for iPad/tablets
Bad science?
My answer for OP: Find a 1.5A chargers, your phone might get hot if you charge while you play game.
Turn off your device if you want the battery to live longer.
I tried the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 quick charger on my ZE550KL 2GB ram model. The starting battery percent was 18% and after about half an hour the battery was still at 42%. I read on Qualcomm's website that SD410 supports quick charging 2.0. But the results speak otherwise. Could it be the software restricting quick charge?
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I tried the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 quick charger on my ZE550KL 2GB ram model. The starting battery percent was 18% and after about half an hour the battery was still at 42%. I read on Qualcomm's website that SD410 supports quick charging 2.0. But the results speak otherwise. Could it be the software restricting quick charge?
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I thought that only the SD 615 version of the ZE550KL was quick charge compatible.
The 410 is also quick charge compliant as well. Check this
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The 410 is also quick charge compliant as well. Check this
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The processor supports quick charge, but as far as I know, it's not implemented in the phone.
Yes I tried it too recently and the best rate at which phone charging was 1.1A (I used 2.1A charger, it took 3 hrs to charge from 10% to 100%)
Either we should all ask ASUS to enable fast charging in coming updates or wait for someone to build custom kernel that supports fast charging.
if it's any consolation, the moto g3 also doesn't supports quick charging. It also has SD 410. 3 hours is the time is takes for me to charge it to full with the provided OEM charger as well.
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if it's any consolation, the moto g3 also doesn't supports quick charging. It also has SD 410. 3 hours is the time is takes for me to charge it to full with the provided OEM charger as well.
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I had Moto G 2015 for couple of weeks. Didn't really use wall charger enough, I used USB charging through PC most of the times so can't really say about charging time.
I found some references online they claimed Moto g3 does charge faster, here is one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/help/charge-time-t3171725
As far as the laser is concerned, has anyone raised this issue with them on forums?
can't bear slow charging :crying:
It more than likely has to do with the USB configuration so I doubt any software update will enable that, but to be fair it could be a software based limitation. The USB component needs to allow for the high throughput though.
I personally don't feel too negative about the charge time because I came from an iPhone 5S that doesn't have quickcharging. I am sure for others it is like watching paint dry though.
What I find most disturbing about the phone is that, it came with a 1A charger. You can save some significant charging time if yo use a standard 2A charger.
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What I find most disturbing about the phone is that, it came with a 1A charger. You can save some significant charging time if yo use a standard 2A charger.
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Have you tested this? Devices will only pull what they are able from a charger so if it was designed to drawl up to 1.35A then even with a 2A charger it will only drawl 1.35A.
dexter20082001 said:
Have you tested this? Devices will only pull what they are able from a charger so if it was designed to drawl up to 1.35A then even with a 2A charger it will only drawl 1.35A.
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I think you are right on this. I just tested and even with a 2A charger it takes more than 3 hours to charge the phone.
Anyone tried using qualcomm 2.0 certified quick chargers?
From this zentalk link, looks like my suspicion was correct. Event though SD 410 supports quickcharge, Asus limited the circuits etc. to not take 2A. Sad!
At least it charges faster on super saving mode.
35% in 60 mins on Normal mode
41% in 60 mins on super saving mode
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What I find most disturbing about the phone is that, it came with a 1A charger. You can save some significant charging time if yo use a standard 2A charger.
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My ZE601KL comes with a 2A charger in the box. I would say it charges quick when battery is real low and slows down when it close to 80% to complete the rest of the charging cycle.
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My ZE601KL comes with a 2A charger in the box. I would say it charges quick when battery is real low and slows down when it close to 80% to complete the rest of the charging cycle.
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Quick charge is supposed to charge from 0 to 60% in 30 minutes then slow to normal speed.
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I thought that only the SD 615 version of the ZE550KL was quick charge compatible.
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You sure 615 version support quick charge?
i can use qc2.0 on ZE550KL(Z00LD) Snapdragon 615 so enjoy
BulldozerAMD said:
i can use qc2.0 on ZE550KL(Z00LD) Snapdragon 615 so enjoy
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Are you sure that quick charge works?
What kernel are you using?
Please share your charging current and charging time from 0 to 100% using lineage 14.1 + guyver kernel
I have got 0 to 100 % in just 1 hr and 50 min
Got a Qualcomm 2.0 quick charger transmort.
Does your device charge slowly after 90%?
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Does your device charge slowly after 90%?
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Yes when crosse s 70% gives ampere about 2450 when 80% 2000 when crosses 90% about 1000
[email protected] said:
Please share your charging current and charging time from 0 to 100% using lineage 14.1 + guyver kernel
I have got 0 to 100 % in just 1 hr and 50 min
Got a Qualcomm 2.0 quick charger transmort.
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Does your device charge slowly after 90%?
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Using radon kernel get about 2750mAh and using quick charge 3.0 adapter from bellkin gets charged from 5%-100% in about 1hr 36mins
Yes charging is slow after 90% otherwise (atleast my device) will charge in 1hr 28 mins
Androbots said:
Using radon kernel get about 2750mAh and using quick charge 3.0 adapter from bellkin gets charged from 5%-100% in about 1hr 36mins
Is mobile get heated too much ?
mine goes 45 degree
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Androbots said:
Using radon kernel get about 2750mAh and using quick charge 3.0 adapter from bellkin gets charged from 5%-100% in about 1hr 36mins
Is mobile get heated too much ?
mine goes 45 degree
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I use a netbook cooler the fan. It spins at 1200rpm and cools my phone pretty good. Temps with this fan is around 42°C and without the fan is around 49°C!
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[email protected] said:
I use a netbook cooler the fan. It spins at 1200rpm and cools my phone pretty good. Temps with this fan is around 42°C and without the fan is around 49°C!
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Thanks I also have note book fan will put kenzo on it and try
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Beware guys... Battery may swell up
Aditya1011 said:
Beware guys... Battery may swell up
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Wow really?!????!
I think our device's battery should be capable of at least qc 2.0
Androbots said:
Using radon kernel get about 2750mAh and using quick charge 3.0 adapter from bellkin gets charged from 5%-100% in about 1hr 36mins
Yes charging is slow after 90% otherwise (atleast my device) will charge in 1hr 28 mins
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What is your rom and rafon version kernel ?? You charge in phone off or on ?
I charge with 2000 ampere so that is around 1 hour and 30minute-ish. I could charge more than 2000 ampere but everyone warned me that charging way beyond 2000 ampere will kill your battery since our phones is made to only handle 2ma. Then you see threads like these even charging at 3000 amperes lel.
This community is confusing XD
drckml said:
I charge with 2000 ampere so that is around 1 hour and 30minute-ish. I could charge more than 2000 ampere but everyone warned me that charging way beyond 2000 ampere will kill your battery since our phones is made to only handle 2ma. Then you see threads like these even charging at 3000 amperes lel.
This community is confusing XD
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This device is capable even of qc 3.0. But xiaomi didnt included qc because of extra bucks qualcomm is charging for qc
smustafasms said:
This device is capable even of qc 3.0. But xiaomi didnt included qc because of extra bucks qualcomm is charging for qc
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The phone is not capable of QC 3.0, the SoC is. Snapdragon 650 is also capable of other things which our phone isn't able to do.
Risking your battery to swell up, blow up or reduce battery life just to save 15-30 minutes of charging time is stupid.
If you are charging the phone with more Ampere than allowed by the manufacturer, you lose your warranty and are responsible for the potential damage of your phone.
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The phone is not capable of QC 3.0, the SoC is. Snapdragon 650 is also capable of other things which our phone isn't able to do.
Risking your battery to swell up, blow up or reduce battery life just to save 15-30 minutes of charging time is stupid.
If you are charging the phone with more Ampere than allowed by the manufacturer, you lose your warranty and are responsible for the potential damage of your phone.
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Yes you are right.. This is xda is all about.. Do anything with your device as u like, exceed it limits.. Right?
I dont think this will damage the device if done properly.
Dont charge over 2.4 amp
Regards
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The phone is not capable of QC 3.0, the SoC is. Snapdragon 650 is also capable of other things which our phone isn't able to do..
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Thanks, this explanation is really what I needed. Because all of this time I am confused.
I am going to stick to charging with 2A
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What is your rom and rafon version kernel ?? You charge in phone off or on ?
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I charge when my put my phone is running by I don't us see or while charging.
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LeoYL said:
Who said that Snapdragon 650 doesn't support QC3.0?
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/650
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Yes the snapdragon 650 support QC 3.0 and 2.0.I think the battery of the phone should at least be able to handle QC 2.0 charging speed. But still I use a QC 3.0 adapter. The trick is to keep the phone cool while ItS fast charging!
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Who said that Snapdragon 650 doesn't support QC3.0?
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/650
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Noboby said that but Snapdragon 650 also supports Galileo satellite navigation, NFC and a display resolution of 2560x1600.
All things of which our phone isn't capable.
Only because the SoC is capable of Quick Charge, doesn't mean that the battery and cooling are capable also.
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I charge when my put my phone is running by I don't us see or while charging.
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Yes the snapdragon 650 support QC 3.0 and 2.0.I think the battery of the phone should at least be able to handle QC 2.0 charging speed. But still I use a QC 3.0 adapter. The trick is to keep the phone cool while ItS fast charging!
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i dont said me what is your rom ???
how you go above 2400 ma? radon limit charge rate in 2400 . i test on miui and cm14.1 ... max rate is 2400 by QC3 Charger in radon kernel but by guyver kernel by cm based rom (lineage 14.1)0-80% in 5v 3000ma in 80-90% 2500 and in 90% decrease from 1000 to 400ma . for me 90-100 take 40min by stock and QC3 Charger .
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i dont said me what is your rom ???
how you go above 2400 ma? radon limit charge rate in 2400 . i test on miui and cm14.1 ... max rate is 2400 by QC3 Charger in radon kernel but by guyver kernel by cm based rom (lineage 14.1)0-80% in 5v 3000ma in 80-90% 2500 and in 90% decrease from 1000 to 400ma . for me 90-100 take 40min by stock and QC3 Charger .
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Yes I use epic ROM with radon kernel 3.9 and I don't know how but my charging speeds are above 2400ma for sure right now away from home so when I return I shall send you a screenshot.i always use a netbook cooler to cool my phone as the cooler it runs faster it charges. My battery temps while charging stays at 42°C
Anyone facing heating issue while charging with stock charger? Is it only me or anyone else facing the same ?
Temperature goes upto 45°c ..is it normal ?
hk96 said:
Anyone facing heating issue while charging with stock charger? Is it only me or anyone else facing the same ?
Temperature goes upto 45°c ..is it normal ?
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i'm using the default charger (out of box, 5V 2A) on RN7 (chinese rom), battery doesnt heat up as the app (AccuBattery) saying temperature upto 36 or 37 C, once i seen shooted at 39 C (max)
but in any case phone was slightly heated on top from behind (adjacent to back camera), i think it may be due to processor but the battery temperature was fine
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i'm using the default charger (out of box, 5V 2A) on RN7 (chinese rom), battery doesnt heat up as the app (AccuBattery) saying temperature upto 36 or 37 C, once i seen shooted at 39 C (max)
but in any case phone was slightly heated on top from behind (adjacent to back camera), i think it may be due to processor but the battery temperature was fine
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Battery temp depends on ambient temp too. It's about 36°c ambient here. So may be that's the reason for heating.
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Battery temp depends on ambient temp too. It's about 36°c ambient here. So may be that's the reason for heating.
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i think it is not normal if ambient is 36 and on charging battery temp goes upto 45, you can also check different phones with different chargers
or you can try charging your phone via laptop/PC, it will slow charge the device but you will see the temperature rise of battery be negligible
keep in mind that charger as well as charging cable both may contribute in heating up of phone
by the way which charger are you using?
just for information (not related to thread) you can visit the website regarding temperature and battery life
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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i think it is not normal if ambient is 36 and on charging battery temp goes upto 45, you can also check different phones with different chargers
or you can try charging your phone via laptop/PC, it will slow charge the device but you will see the temperature rise of battery be negligible
keep in mind that charger as well as charging cable both may contribute in heating up of phone
by the way which charger are you using?
just for information (not related to thread) you can visit the website regarding temperature and battery life
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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Thanks for Ur reply.
Yeah, for high ambient it's ok to have high temp. I thought the same.
I am using charger that came with the box.
Saw many people complaining about the same. So thought of creating this thread.
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Thanks for Ur reply.
Yeah, for high ambient it's ok to have high temp. I thought the same.
I am using charger that came with the box.
Saw many people complaining about the same. So thought of creating this thread.
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keep in mind that im using chinese rom (comes with the mobile), lucky me my mobile dont get heat up, same is the case with my friend we purchased the same RN7 chinese and both got lucky because mobile isnt heating while charging, although im thinking to purchase QC4 charger but don't know will it improves battery life (cycle) or degrade it at the cost of fast cahrging
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keep in mind that im using chinese rom (comes with the mobile), lucky me my mobile dont get heat up, same is the case with my friend we purchased the same RN7 chinese and both got lucky because mobile isnt heating while charging, although im thinking to purchase QC4 charger but don't know will it improves battery life (cycle) or degrade it at the cost of fast cahrging
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A custom kernel could be a solution for heating, or just charge at lower amps.
Reg. Qc4 make sure u charge in an AC room ?lol
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A custom kernel could be a solution for heating, or just charge at lower amps.
Reg. Qc4 make sure u charge in an AC room lol
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I dont think QC 4 require AC room, as my friend owns vivo v15pro with fast charging (5V, 4A). no heating issues, im concerned because RN7 is a budget phone and normally budget phones dont offer QC3 or QC4/+
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I dont think QC 4 require AC room, as my friend owns vivo v15pro with fast charging (5V, 4A). no heating issues, im concerned because RN7 is a budget phone and normally budget phones dont offer QC3 or QC4/+
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Redmi note 7 is QC 4 certified by qualcomm.
See image attached.
thanks for the reply, i am still confuse because of the budget phone, i will try QC4 charger sometime later, let see what happens
Hi guys, I bought a usb Type-C wireless charger receiver from BASEUS and a Wireless charger and for some reason it´s not working on my redmi note 7
I tried with my friends´Redmi Note 8 and it works fine, but on the Redmi Note 7 don´t work.
Maybe some software problem/setting??
Thanks in advance
Is not supported by RN7
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Is not supported by RN7
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It´s a universal receiver, meaning all phones with usb type-c connection shoul work.
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It´s a universal receiver, meaning all phones with usb type-c connection shoul work.
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So it's wireless but you plug in a cable into your phone to charge it? Doesn't make any sense
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I tried with my friends´Redmi Note 8 and it works fine, but on the Redmi Note 7 don´t work.
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The specs says: Output: 5V/1A...
guess 1A is way to low... I even doubt it works on Note 8
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The specs says: Output: 5V/1A...
guess 1A is way to low... I even doubt it works on Note 8
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Yeah it´s low and on Redmi Note 8 the carge is slow but on Redmi note 7 there is no signal at all.
I installed Ampere to check the current but it´s the same as without any charger.
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Yeah it´s low and on Redmi Note 8 the carge is slow but on Redmi note 7 there is no signal at all.
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Because it's probably even below the indicated 1A and the relay does simply not kick in at such a low threshold ... which is even a good idea to protect your batteries being charged at such a low amperage, I wouldn't go under 2A
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Because it's probably even below the indicated 1A and the relay does simply not kick in at such a low threshold ... which is even a good idea to protect your batteries being charged at such a low amperage, I wouldn't go under 2A
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Thanks for your info.
I guess I have to sell the receiver
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Because it's probably even below the indicated 1A and the relay does simply not kick in at such a low threshold ... which is even a good idea to protect your batteries being charged at such a low amperage, I wouldn't go under 2A
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Current doesn't affect battery. If you loads the mobile with more current, it only takes the amount it needs. If the load is very low, it lasts more to be charged and probably the charge is refused if it's programmed or hardware controlled in that way.
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Current doesn't affect battery.
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It does very much. Specially in lifespan...
But his amperage is to low which leads to sulfation...
jamespmi said:
Because it's probably even below the indicated 1A and the relay does simply not kick in at such a low threshold ... which is even a good idea to protect your batteries being charged at such a low amperage, I wouldn't go under 2A
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I'm using my phone with crdroid rom and have battery charging information on lock-screen:
Charging from 5V/2A charger, I get around 1700mA current. Using laptop high current usb port, 1200mA.
The lowest charging current I get from old usb port (slow charge - 213mA!). I think the point is the voltage to remain over a limit.
Maybe that wireless charging adapter is defective or use a weak circuit and don't provide the voltage level needed for charging circuit in the phone.
For battery life, the lower current is better than fast charge, but if the charge controller is working properly (controlling the current & heat) should to be small difference.
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It does very much. Specially in lifespan...
But his amperage is to low which leads to sulfation...
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High current is controlled, low current is better. There is no sulfation in lithium-ion batteries. And sulfation is due to prevent full charge, nothing about current. I'm sure about that, I have finished in this thread.
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There is no sulfation in lithium-ion batteries. And sulfation is due to prevent full charge, nothing about current. I'm sure about that, I have finished in this thread.
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Excuse me what? No sulfation on lithium-ion batteries? Followed by sulfation is due to prevent full charge? ?*?*
Whatever...