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Hey all.
I found a rather dirty hack that seems to work better than Bluetooth audio for listening to private audio from the firetv.
Installing bubbleupnp works good on my phone for audio casting to xbmc, so I tried the same on the firetv in reverse.
I had the xposed installer already on the firetv for llama support, so all I needed was to install the bubbleupnp app and bubbleupnp module in xposed.
Experimenting, I played from xbmc to my bubbleupnp app on my phone and it worked. There was a little delay, but it was more constant than the delay that BT headphones have with the firetv. Adjusting the delay on the xbmc app, and I had my private audio. I hadn't tried with any of the other video apps on the firetv, but I'm thinking the delay will be there. At least I can use it for xbmc.
Just wanted to put that out there. Hopefully a better option for sending and listening to audio will come out soon.
t3ch42 said:
Hey all.
I found a rather dirty hack that seems to work better than Bluetooth audio for listening to private audio from the firetv.
Installing bubbleupnp works good on my phone for audio casting to xbmc, so I tried the same on the firetv in reverse.
I had the xposed installer already on the firetv for llama support, so all I needed was to install the bubbleupnp app and bubbleupnp module in xposed.
Experimenting, I played from xbmc to my bubbleupnp app on my phone and it worked. There was a little delay, but it was more constant than the delay that BT headphones have with the firetv. Adjusting the delay on the xbmc app, and I had my private audio. I hadn't tried with any of the other video apps on the firetv, but I'm thinking the delay will be there. At least I can use it for xbmc.
Just wanted to put that out there. Hopefully a better option for sending and listening to audio will come out soon.
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so with what you did is, you basically had the audio stream of a video playing on your phone? I have already installed bubbleupnp on both my note 3 and the fire tv (xposed module on both devices too)but im clueless as to how to make this work. all i have managed is to cast audio(but only music and not video) from my phone to the fire tv, or initiate a video from the fire tv to start playing on my phone, making the fire tv a large remote and my phone the video player lol.
thing is I've never used bubbleupnp before so this whole casting thing is new to me. Maybe you are able to give more details as to what you did? what you set the renderer and library to on both your phone and the tv? Would gladly appreciate it as this is the last piece of the puzzle for me as to configuring the fire tv. would really like xbmc to play the video while my phone plays the audio!! thx!!
Exactly as you said it.
Set bubbleupnp to audiocast to my phone.
Listen on my phone.
Get frustrated because bubbleupnp won't ever change their design to be able to sync. Apparently, the delay is inevitable. Not sure why, as allshare seems to have it figured out.
I'm going to give up on this, as I've had no luck from this method. Will wait to see if a BT ad2p(?) Receiver Profile can be used with phones.
t3ch42 said:
Exactly as you said it.
Set bubbleupnp to audiocast to my phone.
Listen on my phone.
Get frustrated because bubbleupnp won't ever change their design to be able to sync. Apparently, the delay is inevitable. Not sure why, as allshare seems to have it figured out.
I'm going to give up on this, as I've had no luck from this method. Will wait to see if a BT ad2p(?) Receiver Profile can be used with phones.
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You know what im doing now? I play the movie using xbmc, but also start the movie playback on my phone using mx player.But mx player has the capability to only play the audio with the screen off, so thats what im doing now. Its easy enough to get the audio synced, and the batt drain isnt too bad, 16% for 130 minutes movie (DTS downmixing). a 40 minutes itunes web dl would consume about 4% if its on AC3, but i presume it would be very similar even if it was just AAC.
Until a more seamless method comes out, this is what im gonna be doing, as its easy enough, and no extra purchase required
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You know what im doing now? I play the movie using xbmc, but also start the movie playback on my phone using mx player.But mx player has the capability to only play the audio with the screen off, so thats what im doing now. Its easy enough to get the audio synced, and the batt drain isnt too bad, 16% for 130 minutes movie (DTS downmixing). a 40 minutes itunes web dl would consume about 4% if its on AC3, but i presume it would be very similar even if it was just AAC.
Until a more seamless method comes out, this is what im gonna be doing, as its easy enough, and no extra purchase required
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Lol...
I've played around like that in the past. It does put more load on your network and hard drives though. Tolerable but unfortunate.
I'm giving BT another try. Picked up a car mp3 3.5mm out unit from amazon for $8.50 or so that I'll be able to sync up easily enough. i can plug my own headphones up and plug it into the USB chargers at my bed. I'll see how that works. Hopefully this will be an option.
How nice would it have been if they just gave the headphone out thru remote capability like the roku 3....sigh
Do update on how well your new plan goes. Thanks!
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Any update or progress on development of using bluetooth headphones without sync issues?
When you guys described the worsening audio offset which cannot be corrected because it keeps getting worse over time, how long does it take to see it noticeably worsened?
The reason i am asking is I finally was able to install Settings.apk and paired my bluetooth headphones (Noontec Zoro wireless BT headphones).
When I played a movie in XBMC, I didn't think the audio offset was that bad. Better yet, I didn't notice that it worsened over time. I watched it for over 20 minutes and didn't notice any change. I did a manual offset of .4 sec to compensate and it seemed fine after 20 minutes or so. Will I notice it after more time?
The only thing on my config that might be different than others is that in XBMC 13.1 Gotham stable release, is that I have Hardware acceleration enabled but I unchecked both Mediacodec and libstagefright (it is the only way that I can watch xvid without stutter and doesn't seem to affect mp4 h264 movies). Maybe someone else can try this?
Also, movies I played on Plex shows the same...small lag but somewhat tolerable and it didn't seem to get worse over time, but I only did this for about 5 minutes.
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Any update or progress on development of using bluetooth headphones without sync issues?
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Have had pretty good luck with xbmc 13.2 beta rc1.
Am using this BT adapter but only have a few issues now. This syncs up to the fire TV and the audio stays in sync with xbmc.
As I stated in my review, the channels are reversed. Not a real big deal as I can switch my headphones manually to the other ear. After checking my son's BT headphones too, I'm beginning to think all the Chinese imports have their audio connections backwards.
As I watch the show tonight, I can say that the BT alternative is working pretty good. I've had it set forward about 0.2sec ahead and it was quite tolerable. Seems to be getting better. Maybe next update will fix it.
Anybody else had any better luck?
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Have had pretty good luck with xbmc 13.2 beta rc1.
Am using this BT adapter but only have a few issues now. This syncs up to the fire TV and the audio stays in sync with xbmc.
As I stated in my review, the channels are reversed. Not a real big deal as I can switch my headphones manually to the other ear. After checking my son's BT headphones too, I'm beginning to think all the Chinese imports have their audio connections backwards.
As I watch the show tonight, I can say that the BT alternative is working pretty good. I've had it set forward about 0.2sec ahead and it was quite tolerable. Seems to be getting better. Maybe next update will fix it.
Anybody else had any better luck?
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So where do you plug this into? The USB port of the AFTV? how do you pair it?
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So where do you plug this into? The USB port of the AFTV? how do you pair it?
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Its a simple little BT receiver that allows a 1/8” headphone jack or jumper to plug into your car aux. It has a battery which lasts three or so hours with headphones plugged in.
To sync, turn on the switch and search with your phone, firetv or whatever you have with BT audio. It automatically connects. Simple. Cheap.
I actually use a pair cheapo 2.4ghz headphones I got as a gift. None audio sync issues I had using a bluetooth transmitter. I just plug it into either the headphone port on the bedroom tv or on the av receiver when I watch in the living room when I can't sleep.
these look nice
The JBL WR2.4 looks nice for under $50 at Amazon
goodhur said:
I actually use a pair cheapo 2.4ghz headphones I got as a gift. None audio sync issues I had using a bluetooth transmitter. I just plug it into either the headphone port on the bedroom tv or on the av receiver when I watch in the living room when I can't sleep.
these look nice
The JBL WR2.4 looks nice for under $50 at Amazon
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Most tv now a day doesn't have headphone jack.
Some of us don't have receiver in bedroom tv
superflysocal said:
Most tv now a day doesn't have headphone jack.
Some of us don't have receiver in bedroom tv
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My bedroom TV has a headphone port the side and no av receiver. That tv is technically a computer monitor with hdmi and a tuner. So that may explain why it still has a headphone port. However, many larger TV's still have an audio out (line level, red and white RCA) that can be used with wireless headphones. There are also toslink to analog convertors or HDMI audio extractors that you can get for about $25. You could use one to achieve line level audio.
I have been researching TV's since the living room tv is old. My living room TV is ridiculous it is HD but it is a 50" plasma from 2004 and it was built before ASTC HD tuners were put in TV sets. The last owners left it because it was a pita to move, I can't imagine how much it would have cost in 2004.
The headphone I mentioned appears not to be a good choice in the line level audio output scenario.
t3ch42 said:
Its a simple little BT receiver that allows a 1/8” headphone jack or jumper to plug into your car aux. It has a battery which lasts three or so hours with headphones plugged in.
To sync, turn on the switch and search with your phone, firetv or whatever you have with BT audio. It automatically connects. Simple. Cheap.
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Then I am not sure how this approach would be different than using bluetooth headphones other than you getting lucky with this particular unit compared to others. It is bascially a bluetooth headphone without the headphones.
It's great that it works for you though.
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Then I am not sure how this approach would be different than using bluetooth headphones other than you getting lucky with this particular unit compared to others. It is bascially a bluetooth headphone without the headphones.
It's great that it works for you though.
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You're right. They are no different. What I did notice is the audio did not seem too out of sync if at all with the newer version of xbmc.
Of course, it could just be a coincidence with a movie that had it audio set out of sync already...I don't know. I may have been more tolerant of the prep work in order to get it to work, pause the video, adjust delay forward, unpause and verify.
The point for me was that it was easy. The BT receiver could have been a more expensive one or cheaper. I don't think it matters too much right now as the BT audio is just an unintended positive side effect.
Amazon may enable a better fix soon or someone may mod a custom image with support if the bootloader opens. Its possible. Either way, I'm happy with the amazon TV. There a bunch more options and capabilities available on this xbmc box than any of the others I've had.
After seeing a post on reddit about someone wondering if this is possible I decided to try if I could get this to work. Could be useful if you could listen to the audio by headphones plugged into your phone and watching on the big screen. Found a solution quite fast in BubbleUPnP and using it's ability to send the audio to a DLNA renderer, this feature is called Audio Cast. You will need:
-Rooted FireTV with Xposed installed
-BubbleUPnP and the license, or you will be limited to 20 minutes audio streaming per app Launch.
-Mouse plugged into your FireTV, or droidmote/wukong/etc
Install BubbleUPnP and the license on your FireTV and enable BubbleUPnP in Xposed, then reboot your FireTV. Next you will need to install BubbleUPnP on any other DLNA renderer app on your phone/tablet/whatever you want to stream the audio to. Open BubbleUPnP on your phone so that the version on your FireTV can find it. Then open up BubbleUPnP on your FireTV, open the sidebar and as the renderer select your phone. Next to the renderer you can see a switch which you can use to turn Audio cast Off/On.
I would recommend first starting your movie/episode in XBMC before enabling Audio Cast, this seemed to give me the best result. So play your media in XBMC, enable Audio Cast and go back to XBMC and resume. You will notice there is a delay in the Audio. Use the Audio offset to correct for this. I needed to set the Audio ahead by 1.8 seconds to get it to sync up properly. However this can vary quite a bit between plays and it can be tricky to find the correct offset to fix the delay.
If you experience audio drops try increasing the audio buffer length in the BubbleUPnP Audio Cast settings on your FireTV. Not a perfect solution but seems to work well enough for the occasional movie when someone else is sleeping in the same room.
This is the response I got from bubbleupnp back last year when I was trying to get this to work.
Hi,
Audio Cast cannot technically be used to send synced audio with video. There is no way around it.
The only valid use of Audio Cast with videos is if you are only interested in the audio part of the video.
Cheers,
Bubblesoft
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Tried as much as I could, it wasn't a solution. Ended up with better results with xbmc and audio delay with BT headphones. Until a real.solution comes ....
If you have bluetooth headphones there is obviously no need for anything like this. I don't have any so listening through my phone can be useful at times.
There will always be a delay if you stream the audio to your phone while watching on the FireTV. However XBMC audio offset works well and it usually doesn't take too much effort to get the video and audio to sync up.
headphones: beats studio wireless
2.4ghz band stopped working when headphones are connected
-temporary solution: switched to 5ghz band. no issue
netflix would buffer to 99%, audio would start playing but screen was still buffering
-temporary solution: turn off headphones, let video play, turn headphones back on
kodi, hulu and youtube worked fine.
overall i was pretty happy with my experience. im most proud to say that the nexus player is not plagued with the audio lag that come with other devices.
I've had issues with BT headset quality too, since trying post Marshmallow update.
It would have of course been best, if there was a headphone jack in the remote, like Roku and Nvidia Shield have.
It seems the use of a BT headset, somehow puts a burden on the overall Wifi connection of the device, or something. Given you found 5Ghz works better. With Roku and Shield, the headphone jack works great no matter the connection, if you can get it to play on the TV, it will play with no issues via the wireless headphone jack of Roku and Shield.
I don't know why Nexus Player BT headset audio is so unstable. But it's disappointing. That the claimed benefits of Marshmallow for the Nexus Player, are found to be less than stellar once put to use.
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headphones: beats studio wireless
2.4ghz band stopped working when headphones are connected
-temporary solution: switched to 5ghz band. no issue
netflix would buffer to 99%, audio would start playing but screen was still buffering
-temporary solution: turn off headphones, let video play, turn headphones back on
kodi, hulu and youtube worked fine.
overall i was pretty happy with my experience. im most proud to say that the nexus player is not plagued with the audio lag that come with other devices.
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Thanks I was looking for a fix or workaround for that issue with netfilx. My workaround was just to cast from my tablet or phone. A little annoying as sometimes I don't have my tablet or phone around.
Showtime_III said:
netflix would buffer to 99%, audio would start playing but screen was still buffering
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I just got the OTA update to 6.0 and yes, while I was thrilled to get bluetooth headphone capability this problem with Netflix takes the fun out of it. I'm not convinced it's really buffering, I think it's just refusing to switch to the video framebuffer output for some technical reason when the bluetooth audio sink is selected, so the buffering spinner never goes away.
-temporary solution: turn off headphones, let video play, turn headphones back on
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It's surprising how well this works in terms of being consistent and repeatable (usually these kinds of tricks result in hanging or crashing if you use them more than once), but unfortunately it only works until you have to use the UI to skip or even pause, then it's gone and you have to do it again.
Update: There is also a bluetooth audio problem with Kodi under 6.0: While UI sounds and at least some local files play back fine with bluetooth audio, in certain other streams, including all the YouTube videos and World News Live channels I tried, bluetooth audio is absent unless you do the above trick where you connect the bluetooth device after it starts playing.
The symptom is almost the exact opposite of what you get with Netflix in that, unless you do this trick the video streams but the audio doesn't, where in Netflix the audio streams but the video does not appear.
It's also pretty ridiculous that there is no way to disconnect a bluetooth device from the Nexus side, which means that once it's paired, the headset will connect to the player whenever you turn it on. Which is irritating if you have other devices you want to use it with, like phones and tablets -- all of which do let you disconnect a bluetooth device without unpairing or turning bluetooth off.
Anyone know if there is a way to steam audio to a network receiver over wifi, not Bluetooth and not local music. Looking to be able to steam via dlana with music apps such as iheart etc. Only option I know that does this is airaudio but that requires root. Anyone know of any other options?
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Anyone know if there is a way to steam audio to a network receiver over wifi, not Bluetooth and not local music. Looking to be able to steam via dlana with music apps such as iheart etc. Only option I know that does this is airaudio but that requires root. Anyone know of any other options?
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One of the best option to send system wide audio to a Network Reciever is to get a Chromecast Audio dongle, connect it to Reciever via toslink cable if you reciever supports it and using "Cast App" send the audio to cast audio. Amazing audio quality.
I use the root App airaudio. Streaming to dlna Speakers. Needs root and the magisk airaudio Module.
Hey there,
AirAudio has been kicked by Google because they didn't like a link to a rooting-website inside the description anymore, written 7 years ago.
Its successor is called AirMusic and allows to stream some apps (eg. YouTube, YT Music, Deezer, PodcastAddict , radio.de, Plex and more, you have to try it out) without root on Android 10+.
On rooted devices, all audio can be transmitted.
On my G6, I have really terrible audio quality over Bluetooth connections, I've had two separate G6s, of different colors, received weeks apart, and they both suck for Bluetooth audio, especially my Sony car stereo, and LG Tone Free... can anybody else report on their experience? Does your LS993 sound awful on your Bluetooth devices?
Have a fairly new G6 bluetooth og Bose earpiece working very well, also on 2010 F150 pick up and 2012 Buick no audio issues. Audio has been fine so far.
Mine also is pretty poor. The volume level is about half the level of the satellite radio or fm stations in my car
Hello all.
I had G2 in the past and I use to listen music in my car, using Bluetooth connection to Pioneer head unit. I have Spotify premium account and I have my Playlist downloaded with the best quality. However once I got G6 a week ago I noticed that audio quality from the g6 with the same songs, same Playlist, same Spotify account, is not as good as it was with g2. So I did a short research and found a thread in the net where people reported the same problem.
A guy from the thread suggested to disconnect all other Bluetooth devices from the phone (like smart watch or band) and actually that solved my problem. I have MiBand2. Once I disconnected it the audio quality became as good as before.
So guys, if you have a smart watch, try to remove it and check the quality again. I hope that helps.
I went a couple of months with no issues on my Kia Optima, then suddenly, I started getting really bad aliasing on the highs. As said above, I turned off my Huwaei watch and the sound was normal again. After a bit, I turned my watch back on, and it remained fine.
I had it happen once again many weeks later; and again, a quick off - wait - on, cycle with the watch fixed it. So whatever it is, seems to be a bandwith allocation issue with the bluetooth software. From March '17 thorugh almost Sept '17 and I've only had to do this twice? I think I can live with this.
Hey heres something for you to try..
Download WiFi Scanner from App Store.. Look at your 2.4ghz networks.. then keep in mind your cordless phones, IP Cams, Walkie Talkies, baby monitors in your area.. You may be a victim of signal interference.
Bluetooth operates on the 2.4ghz spectrum along with a TON of other devices now available.
Your sony stereo may be the culprit.. if is an aftermarket "Xplod" deck
Im an audiophile, and my G6 runs better than my Samsungs.. (also no issues with the "preventative volume warning"
What you also may have is an app that is causing the volume to lower...
For example.. when i stream the music player with the stock app, sometimes Snapchat notification sounds cause the rest of the volume to be lower..
Google Maps is another one that can hijack the sound but you can control in settings.
For using music try a different app ( i use Maple Player) and it works great ..
Based on your experiences i think its something outside causing the problem to be honest. but thats ALOT of trial and error to deal with.. if worse comes to worse- you can always get an aux jack bluetooth adapter for your car stereo if it IS the stereos bluetooth receiver .