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$189 perk of OctaCore Android head unit for early users

Seems more people are interested in our OctaCore head unit. We added $189 perk for early users.
It is Octa Cortex-A7/2GB DDR3/16G EMMC5.0 device. 180+ models are supported.
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It's said to be open source. But, this seems to be based on hardware similar to the other units being discussed around here. Does it have an MCU, and if so, is the source code for the MCU also available? I also don't see any applications (Radio, Aux In, etc.) on GitHub.

my car is not on your list (2014 mazda6). Do you have a generic model that fits most standard double din?
Or is there any way possible you have other models that support a 2014 mazda 6? I'd love to get my hands on one of these if I could

mike.s said:
It's said to be open source. But, this seems to be based on hardware similar to the other units being discussed around here. Does it have an MCU, and if so, is the source code for the MCU also available? I also don't see any applications (Radio, Aux In, etc.) on GitHub.
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Thanks for your reply. We haven't gone that far as mentioned in campaign that some parts are in binary. We try first open step from AOSP. However, seems people asked more information on OctaCore.

Hisma said:
my car is not on your list (2014 mazda6). Do you have a generic model that fits most standard double din?
Or is there any way possible you have other models that support a 2014 mazda 6? I'd love to get my hands on one of these if I could
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Sorry, 2014 Mazda6 is not supported at this moment. We do have generic model for double din which named Universal Unit. However, I don't think it will work with your car since canbus decoding is needed for 2014Mazda6.

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Thanks for your reply. We haven't gone that far as mentioned in campaign that some parts are in binary. We try first open step from AOSP. However, seems people asked more information on OctaCore.
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So, it's not open source. You're just releasing the kernel source, which the other manufacturers are supposed to be doing but aren't.

would this work on a 2012 Seat Ibiza?

mitc said:
would this work on a 2012 Seat Ibiza?
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Sorry, cannot fit.

You are missing the one Suzuki that I like (Kizashi). This has a double-din opening and is not CANBUS - so will it work?

dwmcqueen said:
You are missing the one Suzuki that I like (Kizashi). This has a double-din opening and is not CANBUS - so will it work?
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Hi, Kizashi can be supported however not this time because of panel fitting.

nonstop2050 said:
Seems more people are interested in our OctaCore head unit. We added $189 perk for early users.
It is Octa Cortex-A7/2GB DDR3/16G EMMC5.0 device. 180+ models are supported.
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Hyundai I40, will it support factory amplifier with Can-Bus? Will it support climate and other information through the Can-Bus?
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So it is not a standard Double DIN size?

halloj said:
Hyundai I40, will it support factory amplifier with Can-Bus? Will it support climate and other information through the Can-Bus?
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Which year model? canbus is not needed for the one of 2011-2013.

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So it is not a standard Double DIN size?
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it is standard double din in terms of size of the metal part. However, to make head unit 'seamless' fitting to your car, we need a suitable panel.
Do you have a photo of old head unit? If it is similar as attached pic, then there is not problem by an Universal head unit.

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Which year model? canbus is not needed for the one of 2011-2013.
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Well, mine is 2012 and it has factory amplifier and it use to have a nav-unit which I've
replaced for a Klyde unit. Hence my question. I definitely need both can-bus boxes.
Again, can you supply it or not? Thanks

I would love to back something like this, but I have a few questions.
1. Why are all the head unit manufacturers still using old Rockchip and Allwinner CPUs that only support up to 4.4.x? Why not choose a more modern chipset that will run Lollipop (or even, should I dare, Marshmallow)? It's 2015, and to come out the gate with an old chipset that only runs Kit Kat is rather disappointing.
2. Closed-source MCU is really the downfall of these head units. I've owned a couple of different types, and the MCU is always the weakest link. The Newsmy doesn't support audio mixing (no EQ) without software EQ, the HuiFei and clones don't support the EQ using FM or auxiliary inputs, and capped "shut-down" times are extremely annoying. Why not do the same as locking the screen and put the device in a lower power mode? The Newsmy community at least worked around this with xdAuto ROMs that allow up to 2 days standby, but that's only because someone at Newsmy posted the ROM source accidentally. Some still have wake issues, etc that would be easily resolved if the MCU were open source.
3. Will this have pre-amp outputs for external amplifiers? A separate channel for subwoofer that doesn't send all audio frequencies? Front and rear pre-amp outs?
If these things were addressed, I'd highly consider backing a project like this. But especially without open source MCU, those of us who have experience with other units would be very hesitant. Designing a new product in 2015 that's capped at Kit Kat from old 2012-2013ish chipsets don't help move things forward either.

What would it cost to add a dedicated panel/harness to the 189 octa perk? I'd be putting it in a 2006 Ford F150.

I've some further questions, have you implemented the BT mod for external mic and also the audio mod?
All displayed in threads above.

Very good questions. Please check my comments in quote.
jkchr1s said:
I would love to back something like this, but I have a few questions.
1. Why are all the head unit manufacturers still using old Rockchip and Allwinner CPUs that only support up to 4.4.x? Why not choose a more modern chipset that will run Lollipop (or even, should I dare, Marshmallow)? It's 2015, and to come out the gate with an old chipset that only runs Kit Kat is rather disappointing.
I think this is because development of Android head unit is not that easy. The process takes longer time than mobile phones and tablets which normally come from IC vendor's reference design, maybe turn-key solution. Android head unit development team needs to handle more tech issues which are not found in mobile phones and tablets. Developers are also lack due to attraction of mobile phone industry. Market size of Android Head unit is maybe 1% of Android phone's.
Good news is, in our OctaCore(2GB DDR) solution, porting of Lollipop is in progress.
2. Closed-source MCU is really the downfall of these head units. I've owned a couple of different types, and the MCU is always the weakest link. The Newsmy doesn't support audio mixing (no EQ) without software EQ, the HuiFei and clones don't support the EQ using FM or auxiliary inputs, and capped "shut-down" times are extremely annoying. Why not do the same as locking the screen and put the device in a lower power mode? The Newsmy community at least worked around this with xdAuto ROMs that allow up to 2 days standby, but that's only because someone at Newsmy posted the ROM source accidentally. Some still have wake issues, etc that would be easily resolved if the MCU were open source.
Open MCU is a bit hard. Firstly, it is normally based on a particular development platform with NDA and in-house tools. Secondly, MCU software is very much connected to hardware control which must be handled very carefully. Thirdly, even you have source, sometimes you may not build a bin if lack of tools and documents.
Doing shutdown in stead of sleep mode is a safer choice than running out of one's old battery and you may not start car next morning. In fact, it is also the industry's choice even in aftermarket. Local distributors in many countries demand <5mA power consuming when acc off.
3. Will this have pre-amp outputs for external amplifiers? A separate channel for subwoofer that doesn't send all audio frequencies? Front and rear pre-amp outs?
pre-amp output is there with a wire for subwoofer.
If these things were addressed, I'd highly consider backing a project like this. But especially without open source MCU, those of us who have experience with other units would be very hesitant. Designing a new product in 2015 that's capped at Kit Kat from old 2012-2013ish chipsets don't help move things forward either.
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$0 this is special for early users.
CompletelyNumb said:
What would it cost to add a dedicated panel/harness to the 189 octa perk? I'd be putting it in a 2006 Ford F150.
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Looking to purchase a Joying Android Head Unit. Any Good?

Hi Guys
I'm about to purchase this unit https://www.amazon.com/Android-Loll...ie=UTF8&qid=1465622931&sr=8-4&keywords=joying
Just a couple of questions
Does it look good?
Can it be rooted?
And finally does it have usb dash cam support.
Thanks

I'm also looking at a similar unit from joying..... did you end up getting it?
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aplusmiami said:
I'm also looking at a similar unit from joying..... did you end up getting it?
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Unfortunately with 97 views so far, no one can/will answer my questions.
I'm afraid to buy any unit at the moment until I get advice.
Suppose the question I should ask is for 250-300 dollars what's the best unit one can buy?
Thanks

That's how I feel. I've think I've ruled out the indash from the thread it seems there are a lot of bugs. The joying seems to be the most popular but not enough feed back from real world experience.
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I am also still waiting and cannot decide which one to buy. I definitely want a unit which has Android 5.1 and is compatible with MTCD units so that I can flash Malaysk's ROM.
For me the question is, should I wait for 2GB RAM or not? Who knows how long we have to wait for that?
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I'm in the same boat, so unfortunately, I don't have any answers to help either.
InDash is a good $150 more, but the internal components are much better. It seems to me the biggest issue with that unit is the software, so there are opportunities to fix those bugs. The community is smaller, but there is hope.
But is hope worth $150 bucks?

doctorman on here is a Joying reseller or something. He's pretty good at answering stuff. I sent him an email about a different question, and I got an Out of Office reply. Said he would be back Tuesday i think. So just wait a day or so, and I'm sure he'll give you the rundown.
as the others have said, In-Dash has way better hardware specs, but it is new, and those bugs can be fixed, but at the same time, they haven't sold that many units. In the In-Dash thread, people's order numbers were like #15, and they seemed to be somewhat sequential. So at some point they may decide they are not selling enough units to make it worthwhile to keep working on the software.
Pumpking and Joying have been in business for a long time, so they have more reasons to keep working on the software. Also check out RoadNavi.com, they have a pretty active forum, and a thread on here for the S160. Seems like support is pretty good.

Roadnavi website been down all day. Pumpking seems to have the most users or reviews that are positive on amazon...
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You can't get to http://www.roadnavi.com/product-category/indash-navigation-system/s160-android/ ?
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Installed the joying so far i like it.
Had to trim my bezel so not sure if it's actually true din size.
Bluetooth speakerphone using the radio builtin mic works pretty good, just as good as my pioneer. Call voice comes through passenger side speaker only and haven't found an option to charge that.
You Tube, Facebook, gmail, gmaps, igo, SiriusXM and waze work well
Reverse Cam looks good
LCD actually suprizingly works very good even in day light. Nice and Brite.
It's locked up on me maybe twice that I can recall. No big deal. Response and speed overall is good.
Very happy so far.
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One other thing. Radio reception is horrible. With the fm amplifier is a bit better but not much
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Nice, I just ordered the Jeep specific Joying unit
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Is that how yours looks with the default Joying 5.1 ?
I just got the Jeep Specific one and mine looks different:

CadillacMike said:
Is that how yours looks with the default Joying 5.1 ?
I just got the Jeep Specific one and mine looks different:
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My understanding is the Jeep specific one is not Android 5.1.1, its only 4.4. your GUI will look different from his. Has anyone gotten 5.1.1 to work on the Jeep specific one? I have been waiting for confirmation from Candy at Joying that the Universal 5.1.1 Head unit they have will fit and work with Canbus in the Jeep.. I've heard/read that the hardward in the 5.1.1 version is better for sound quality.. that and the DSP. I could be wrong though??

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My understanding is the Jeep specific one is not Android 5.1.1, its only 4.4. your GUI will look different from his. Has anyone gotten 5.1.1 to work on the Jeep specific one? I have been waiting for confirmation from Candy at Joying that the Universal 5.1.1 Head unit they have will fit and work with Canbus in the Jeep.. I've heard/read that the hardward in the 5.1.1 version is better for sound quality.. that and the DSP. I could be wrong though??
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Mine is 5.1, at least that is what is says it is. The 5.1 is not on the Joying website yet, but it is on the Amazon Joying page, and Joying said it was legit:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IB8V2AO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And if you go to the Car Joying website, and look at the "Android 5.1 Car stereo" section across the top, there is a drop down menu that shows Jeep Android 5.1 Car Stereo:
https://www.carjoying.com/android-5-1-car-stereo/jeep-android-5-1-car-stereo.html
It just doesn't show up yet.
But I think I found the answer to the interface. I looked at their blog and there are 3 to 4 updates to the Android 5.1 versions, and one says "Date: Apr 30, 2016 - NEW UI Interface for android 5.1.1 lollipop"
https://www.carjoying.com/Joying-blog/42.html
I'm going to try those this week

Well, I was wrong above again. Looks like I have a current MCU, shows June 2016. Not sure how to get the interface. I emailed Joying to see what they say.

aplusmiami said:
Installed the joying so far i like it.
Had to trim my bezel so not sure if it's actually true din size.
Bluetooth speakerphone using the radio builtin mic works pretty good, just as good as my pioneer. Call voice comes through passenger side speaker only and haven't found an option to charge that.
You Tube, Facebook, gmail, gmaps, igo, SiriusXM and waze work well
Reverse Cam looks good
LCD actually suprizingly works very good even in day light. Nice and Brite.
It's locked up on me maybe twice that I can recall. No big deal. Response and speed overall is good.
Very happy so far.
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One other thing. Radio reception is horrible. With the fm amplifier is a bit better but not much
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So been using it for two weeks and I am VERY happy with it. If you have a hot spot it's just like using your phone.
Some notes for those of you that have the unit to help with install.
I connected the antenna amplifier (Optional) to the Blue labeled antenna power output on the radio.
I thought the GPS and Home buttons did not illuminate but they do. You have to connect the illumination wire (Orange with White Stripe) to 12V Acc or to your cars illumination wire and the buttons light up. They transition into different colors not sure how to change that yet.
Video player does not work (Safety feature) Not sure if grounding the brake wire will bypass this.
The iGo software for GPS is fantastic, I do get GPS signal lost periodically, we have had bad weather lately so not sure whats up with that yet
Key 1 - Key 2 mystery - I have the axxess ASWC steering wheel adapter. Connecting Key 1 or Key 2 to the pink wire (cut the connector off the axxess) and I am able to setup the Steering wheel controls Vol +, Vol - and Mute. Nothing else works (2007 NBS Silverado). Still messing with that. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I think I need to manually program the Axxess Radio selection to a HU that matches the Joying. I read somewhere that Pioneer is the best match. The Axxess unit worked fine with my previous Pioneer HU.
Sub woofer output is a single mono port, needed a Y-Adapter to connect to my Sub-AMP.
Touch screen response is actually pretty good - requires a little pressure to respond.
FM radio reception is crappy - Even with the amp (Little better) - Haven't tried AM yet.

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Video player does not work (Safety feature) Not sure if grounding the brake wire will bypass this.
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do you have an option to allow it in Car Settings or something like that? Mine did

I just got mine. I'm still wiring up the amps, but so far I can tell... The radio sounds like a low bit rate mp3. I don't listen to the radio a whole lot, so not entirely a big deal. Anything other than the radio seems to sound fine. Need to do more testing. The built in amp seems OK but don't expect a lot of output without distortion once the volume gets past 80 percent.
If I can fine tune the sound a bit more I'm sure I'll keep this thing. It is pretty cool what you can do with it.

Sorry. I have not been on this part of forums in a while.
I have a joying HU. Im pretty sure every HU owner (Joying or not will agree that android HU are good) so I will just tell you about a few of my bad points.
My car is a Mazda3
I did not buy a car specific HU so i got a universal one because of the better specs, so I got the wiring harness with it also.
They did not provide me with a CANBUS so that I can use the LCD screen of my car (which shows time etc).
Another problem I had was that initially when I conntected the head unit I could not hear any sound. Apparently it was due to some blue ant wire or something needing to be connected to the amp. So the local shop done that.
I also was given the rear view camera but I have not installed that. Again this is because I do not have the CANBUS for the car so I cannot be bothered taking the wire from back of the car to the front.
Joying did say they will tell me when the CANBUS is available but due to lack of communication and language barrier I have not been able to find out.
Other than that the HU is great and would recommend it to anyone.

Installed the OP unit in my BRZ last evening.
Need to figure out how to update the interface.
The unit actually works slightly better than I was expecting as far as the touch screen and speed.
The colors are a little washed out on the display but its ok.
The problem I'm having is the same as the other thread in here about the Bluetooth. It doesn't pair with certain devices and when it does pair it crashes the app trying to turn the Bluetooth on.
Trying to get a resolution from Joying..

Octa Core Android Headunit for testing

hi Guys ,
we just developed a new android unit ,need some guys to help us to test it .if some one have interested in it ,please let me know ,send email to me. you only need to pay little money.
here is the video link on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35rStXTes6k
Feature:
OS:Android 5.1 (can update to 7.1 later)
CPU cta core 1.4GHz
RAM:2GB
Flash:32GB
support rear camera ,bluetooth ,wifi,mirrolink,etc.

peterchan2003 said:
hi Guys ,
we just developed a new android unit ,need some guys to help us to test it .if some one have interested in it ,please let me know ,send email to me. you only need to pay little money.
here is the video link on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35rStXTes6k
Feature:
OS:Android 5.1 (can update to 7.1 later)
CPU cta core 1.4GHz
RAM:2GB
Flash:32GB
support rear camera ,bluetooth ,wifi,mirrolink,etc.
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I had a lot at your video and in settings the bluetooth menu is missing (like in every other Chinese headunit), if you implement a new unit why don't you do it better then the rest and implement bluetooth tethering?
Why don't you take the time and ask what people want in an unit and take the most important features and implement them? And I mean little simple features like, bluetooth tethering, dpi adjustment (in a car you need everything to be readable from an arms lenght, not everyone that buys the units are 20 years old with perfect eightsight), good radio RDS implementation (something you can't find in the Chinese units) and so on...
I like that the interface is cleaner and simpler than the rest of the Chinese units on the market, big icons, fewer colors than the rest of the Chinese units that like to put all the colors of the world on one screen.
Also lots of people would love to be able to "OK Google" from any screen, to voice dial, answer to sms and so on...

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I had a lot at your video and in settings the bluetooth menu is missing (like in every other Chinese headunit), if you implement a new unit why don't you do it better then the rest and implement bluetooth tethering?
Why don't you take the time and ask what people want in an unit and take the most important features and implement them? And I mean little simple features like, bluetooth tethering, dpi adjustment (in a car you need everything to be readable from an arms lenght, not everyone that buys the units are 20 years old with perfect eightsight), good radio RDS implementation (something you can't find in the Chinese units) and so on...
I like that the interface is cleaner and simpler than the rest of the Chinese units on the market, big icons, fewer colors than the rest of the Chinese units that like to put all the colors of the world on one screen.
Also lots of people would love to be able to "OK Google" from any screen, to voice dial, answer to sms and so on...
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thanks for your reply . do you have an example for the bluetooth tethering ?

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thanks for your reply . do you have an example for the bluetooth tethering ?
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I don't know what example I should provide it's bluetooth tethering, you have it in any android phone no matter how expensive it is.
I would like to be able to connect with my headunit to the internet via bluetooth because bluetooth drains a lot less battery from the phone.
Second to that it would be nice once the phone connects to the unit via bluetooth to be able to connect to data also.... it will be automatic each time you enter the car so it will be nice for the user to have a quick and simple and efficient way of connecting the unit to the internet.
I am glad that you guys want to launch a new unit but there are so many on the market that you will win if you bring some features that no one has
You need to read on what people want and value and implement what you can from those wishes.
Good luck !

I received this unit on Friday and installed it yesterday. I have to say that in the ways that count for me, I already like it better than the Joying it has replaced.
Bluetooth tethering never worked for me on Joying either but would be nice for reasons stated by edit.
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naplesbill said:
I received this unit on Friday and installed it yesterday. I have to say that in the ways that count for me, I already like it better than the Joying it has replaced.
Bluetooth tethering never worked for me on Joying either but would be nice for reasons stated by edit.
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Bluetooth tethering works fine on Joying with some additional software... the hardware is fine the software out of the box is short on the option.
If you got the unit, make a review please, post pictures, make a video... let the people know the pros and cons.
There are tons of Chinese units... lots of clones... everyone expects something new.

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Bluetooth tethering works fine on Joying with some additional software... the hardware is fine the software out of the box is short on the option.
If you got the unit, make a review please, post pictures, make a video... let the people know the pros and cons.
There are tons of Chinese units... lots of clones... everyone expects something new.
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None of those options worked on my Galaxy S7 or Galaxy S8. They were both AT&T models without root so I bet that is part of the reason why. Not really a big deal to me though. The biggest problem I had with the Joying is the audio. The FM radio audio is complete crap on the Joying. The EQ was pretty bad as well. I shouldn't need a third party audio driver to get decent sound. And that did not work with the FM radio either.
I may take the time for a review once I have had some time with this device. What I will say for now is the UI is 100% better. Everything flows well together and the DPI is spot on. All apps look great and all the text is readable. The built in apps look so much better than Joying to me. Especially the FM radio app. I dont like any of the 3rd party launchers I have tried either, I just want something that is designed for use as a head unit. The sound is definitely better than the Joying as well. I haven't been able to get my ODB II to connect yet, but I had trouble with that at first on the Joying also. The status bar is much better as it shows running apps like a normal Android device, unlike the Joying. There is also a shortcut on the status bar to blank the screen. You can even adjust the illumination of the hard keys to any RGB combination.
I also like the design for the connectors. The only things that attach directly to the back of the unit are the GPS antenna and the FM antenna. All other connections are on modular plugs. This means they don't extend off the back and you can simply unplug the modules instead of each connector. This was an issue for my install as the Joying resulted in the RCA connectors being press against a metal plate that is part of the dash support.
The bottom line is everything works much better out of the box without having to do a bunch of fiddling. I definitely like this unit better than the Joying as of right now.
I almost forgot, I didn't have to do anything to get voice working with any of the apps that support it. It was something that was developed in mind with the build. It doesn't have voice from the launcher but it's working everywhere else I have tried to use it. Finally, apps don't take 300 years to install from Google play. Something that really annoyed me with Joying.
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i would be glad to test it. i have some guides here in xda made by me and also some videos of instalations in my youtube channels. can make a review and testing of it and post it. will send you an email
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i would be glad to test it. i have some guides here in xda made by me and also some videos of instalations in my youtube channels. can make a review and testing of it and post it. i dindt see your email so i have sent a PM
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saw your email in youtube. email sent

Thinking about testing this unit. When will the 7.1 be available as I feel like the most current OS would be beneficial to keep testing current.

naplesbill said:
What I will say for now is the UI is 100% better. Everything flows well together and the DPI is spot on. All apps look great and all the text is readable. The built in apps look so much better than Joying to me. Especially the FM radio app.
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A video would be even better...

Here is a somewhat crappy video to show the responsiveness and readability of the unit. I may do a full video review this weekend.
Watch "Quick video of new Android HU by request." on YouTube
https://youtu.be/5G8lFll9at0
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What any headunit needs in 2017?
- Decent bluetooth (Parrot).
- DAB+
- Wireless CarPlay + Android Auto

My bet is on this is an MTC(d) unit with a customised UI and the same hardware and issues as all the other MTCD.
The Chinese aren't making anything different, they're all clones off a reference design.
The resellers have little ability to produce something new, little to no influence or desire to improve the MTCD, yet all claim they're better than the next offering vague promises of quality and support - "can upgrade to 7.1”.
The responses of the seller suggests little product knowledge backed by poor quality demo with a lack of detail.
OP - please post clear images from the unit system - about, clearly listing all the manufacturer detail.

Well, it's about time "the" Chinese start building there own sh*t instead of copying some one else's...

GaMeR64 said:
What any headunit needs in 2017?
- Decent bluetooth (Parrot).
- DAB+
- Wireless CarPlay + Android Auto
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Can't stand Android Auto. Much too limited interface for me. Who needs it when you can run Android apps directly on the unit?
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marchnz said:
My bet is on this is an MTC(d) unit with a customised UI and the same hardware and issues as all the other MTCD.
The Chinese aren't making anything different, they're all clones off a reference design.
The resellers have little ability to produce something new, little to no influence or desire to improve the MTCD, yet all claim they're better than the next offering vague promises of quality and support - "can upgrade to 7.1”.
The responses of the seller suggests little product knowledge backed by poor quality demo with a lack of detail.
OP - please post clear images from the unit system - about, clearly listing all the manufacturer detail.
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Definitely not a PX3 or PX5 board.
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naplesbill said:
[/COLOR]Definitely not a PX3 or PX5 board.
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Photos please.

marchnz said:
Photos please.
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Here is the board in this unit
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Got mine in today. Waiting on a couple of missing pieces to the puzzle to get this installed and in working order.
Going in a 2010 Jeep Wrangler with a backup camera.
Look forward to testing and giving some advice.

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Here is the board in this unit
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interesting...samsung arm based.
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k1ll3ry0 said:
Got mine in today. Waiting on a couple of missing pieces to the puzzle to get this installed and in working order.
Going in a 2010 Jeep Wrangler with a backup camera.
Look forward to testing and giving some advice.
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please post pictures of interior of the unit!

Hello, total newb here after a little advice ??

Ok so have tried to trawl the web, you tube and xda but am still struggling to work out my best options.
Totally android newbie, have one for work, don’t really use it much.
Been testing car launchers on it and like the experience.
The Handsfree BT on my Mercedes Vitos radio is fubar, so considering a Chinese Android HU.
Currently considering a Merc oem style Xtrons (4 core 2gb ram) this one is 7.1 or the xtrons 10.1” Octaore 2gb ram, oddly this one is only 6?
Want to mainly use it for amazon prime music, blue tooth streaming (iPhone 7/Apple Music) satnav, and DVDs/films for the kids via HDMI to rear screens (vans for camping and trips to France etc).
Ideally dont want to have to update it straight away but equally am up for it if it’s a big boost.
But my main question is, are xtrons ok out of the box or is there a better make I should look at, or rather the same unit but from a re seller with better support or software?.
Also given the octacore units are the latest, why are the running 6?, and is that even a problem?
Really need the blue tooth for making calls to work well as that the reason I need to replace. Seen mixed reviews we mics wired up to cause echoes etc?
Like the oem style but the 10.1” screen is appealing as it will work well if I manage to upgrade to the new shape Vito next year.
Other wise I am considering a Sony Apple car play. But I think I’ll be bored with that and it will be limited and have a small screen whilst not being oem.
Thanks android folk

Anyone? ?
No one?,
I do understand it may seem silly to ask some of these questions but we all have to start someplace?.
I have no idea what a PX3/px5, mctd or mtcu is?.
But I’d like to understand, sadly trying to search this forum is a nightmare as it either pops up an advert with a guy walking about I think changing bank?. Or I get an offer of a free iPhone off virgin media (scam) or it simply crashes and reloads.
If I could get a few pointers it would be cool so I can make an informed decision.
My current thinking is that Basically the entire android HU production is from a few firms. And pretty much the head units have a ton of promise but are pretty much thrown together. So I’m keen to understand which models are less likely to be rubbish.
And also that as standard most have poor software, but this I don’t get as every android phone I’ve had off work is simply running android. I’ve never noticed much difference?. Why do people have to update the Rom when it’s already running Android?.
What’s a PX5?, from what the be seen that’s the 8 core job, generally with 2gb of ram and a 32gb rom.
Some of what I’ve found seems to indicate these should be better? And that the Bluetooth calling mic issue is better.
Best deal on that is with xtrons as all the others (with a 10.1” screen are only quad core for the same cash.
But what’s the most reliable and useable?. The PX3 (quad core mtcu?) or the Px5 ?
Why can’t the PX5 run Android 6?
And due to this should I just get the Merc style quad core running android 7.1?. Will that be more reliable and useable.
And again Xtrons seem the best all round proposition as seller.
Is the software on the Xtrons useable for basic use out the box?, ie reasonable audio, useable hands free?, gps and able to run amazon prime music and other apps foR the kids in the back?.
200-300 isn’t a small chunk of cash when you have a family of 6 so I’m keen to understand what’s the safest entry to Android HU’s and then what’s the deal and how can I learn more about booting etc.
Thanks anymone who can spend a few minutes getting me on the right path for it’d be much appreciated.
Cheers.

Lots of questions, but i'll try and sum up:
1. 200-300 that you'll spend is a gamble. I.e. hardware failures/bricks, lack of or no updates to your ROM.
2. Chinese Android HU's aren't refined. They are built/designed with good intentions, however, the software to go with is sucks.
3. The things that you expect i.e. good AM/FM quality, RDS, BT Calling etc, do work, but probably not the same quality as you'd expect (probably from mainstream headunits)
4. There are a few "good" companies that XDA tends to use more than others i.e. Joying, Pumpkin, HotAudio/Seicane/Daistao. When I put "good" in quotations, that means this is relative. These companies come out with software updates, are some what reasonable with end user support.
5. The gamble is, if you get a ****ty unit, and its hardware related, or if you decide to mod it (in most cases you will need to make the most of the HU), and you brick it.. than you have to ship the devices to China.
6. In terms of running the latest android, there really isn't a big advantage to running 7. If you can, get a unit with 6 on it. Updating has limitless possibilities of screwing up.
7. Since you're an android newb.. troubleshooting is going to be a nightmare for you, if you're not satisfied.
Hope this helps.

Cheers, much appreciated.
coolest35 said:
Lots of questions, but i'll try and sum up:
1. 200-300 that you'll spend is a gamble. I.e. hardware failures/bricks, lack of or no updates to your ROM.
2. Chinese Android HU's aren't refined. They are built/designed with good intentions, however, the software to go with is sucks.
3. The things that you expect i.e. good AM/FM quality, RDS, BT Calling etc, do work, but probably not the same quality as you'd expect (probably from mainstream headunits)
4. There are a few "good" companies that XDA tends to use more than others i.e. Joying, Pumpkin, HotAudio/Seicane/Daistao. When I put "good" in quotations, that means this is relative. These companies come out with software updates, are some what reasonable with end user support.
5. The gamble is, if you get a ****ty unit, and its hardware related, or if you decide to mod it (in most cases you will need to make the most of the HU), and you brick it.. than you have to ship the devices to China.
6. In terms of running the latest android, there really isn't a big advantage to running 7. If you can, get a unit with 6 on it. Updating has limitless possibilities of screwing up.
7. Since you're an android newb.. troubleshooting is going to be a nightmare for you, if you're not satisfied.
Hope this helps.
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If / when you do get one could you leave some feedback? I'm looking at exactly the same options as you for a Merc B class as I want the stock look. Thanks

So I’m going to focus on units from Joying and Pumpkin.
Next question is why if they all run android is there software issues?, is there additional software needed to integrate with the car interfaces?.
And do I need an octacore unit (is this px5?) or will a quad core with 2gb ram do?.
Is Xtrons considered to be a bad bet if you don’t want to fiddle too much?. I ask because the same price mark with Joying and Pumpkin is for lower spec hardware or older OS.
And given that they are kind of best of the worst are they worth a premium?.
Was planning on the xtrons with either the octacore as the 10.1” screen or the merc style in the quad core as assumed it was the same inside as the more expensive joying or pumpkin but have noted the rear case can differ and on another thread here the manufacturer is noted as different to the Pumpkin units?

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Will do, I think I’m going to go for the oem look and go for an 8 core as you get 32gb ram built in so I can store amazon music and movies on it for the kids and listening.
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Still tempted on the Xtrons as they’ve got pretty good feedback on trust pilot and at the moment they have 15% off bio first order code so can get it under £300 all in inc an OBDII dongle and a wireless reverse camera (£15 off eBay)
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Or found uk firm selling the same (similar) type for the same money looking like it has an Apple type ui and icons and I’ve seen a Seicane reviewed that had the same look. Apparently they are pretty good. I know the reviewer of the video was pleased.
I’ve mailed them to ask about software support etc.
They have 98.5% on eBay and the negative reviews are not on head units though they have lots of positive.
Oh it’s audio tech direct.
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Danno1975 said:
So I’m going to focus on units from Joying and Pumpkin.
Next question is why if they all run android is there software issues?, is there additional software needed to integrate with the car interfaces?.
And do I need an octacore unit (is this px5?) or will a quad core with 2gb ram do?.
Is Xtrons considered to be a bad bet if you don’t want to fiddle too much?. I ask because the same price mark with Joying and Pumpkin is for lower spec hardware or older OS.
And given that they are kind of best of the worst are they worth a premium?.
Was planning on the xtrons with either the octacore as the 10.1” screen or the merc style in the quad core as assumed it was the same inside as the more expensive joying or pumpkin but have noted the rear case can differ and on another thread here the manufacturer is noted as different to the Pumpkin units?
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They all have software issues since they have no "real" world testing, their application is so varied across so many car models, that they really can't get it right. The pumpkins/joying/seicane have some what better support, and since they're the most "popular" units out here.. you'll get much better XDA support too (which, did I mention is probably better than manufacturer support? lol).
They're worth a premium if you want something different, to test and fidget with.. there is a ton more functionality than standard HU's, but that comes at a price of course.
Just a word of advice.. don't trust reviews on random sale websites, they're of course selling something!

Got a positive email off Audio Tech Direct this morning that explained all the questions I had Re the two units I liked. I did some research and of the two merc units I like one was 99.9% Seicane and the other was 99.9% a Erisn.
They noted they will give firmware support where needed on an if it ain’t broke basis. Suits me as I don’t plan on fiddling beyond maybe a new car style launcher.
Doing an extension at the moment so need to convince the wife later of the need for a potentially disappointing £300 radio [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Itchigo53 said:
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Got it yesterday. Really nice, few set up issues to iron out as I was tired last night. But for the 2012 Vito it plugged in and worked straight away.
Happy so far with the unit and the UK seller, it’s a good fit, sound is great, works well looks great. Plugged and played no issues even dash display works on radio channels RDS works, the supplied aerial seems better than stock, didn’t come with the Merc boot screen but that’s in settings and was easy to change (pin code 126 I think).
Love the equaliser and speaker adjust app really good and works well, handsfree is fine via the built in mic (my car one is somewhere in the quad lock so guess it’s not used)
Screens is good, not as sharp as my iPhone but it’s not a £700 Apple product. I had hoped it would be more vibrant but this may be as it was in night mode and I can play with settings. Not used to android so will get my head around it.
Torque app looks good but couldn’t connect to dongle.
Had a few issues getting this onto iPhone WiFi but I think this is the iPhone as it the same with iPad too. WiFi seems good. Was a fair way from house and WiFi from house was connected even though the phone wouldn’t and it’s a newish iPhone 7 so + 1 to the head unit.
Can’t figure out how to change the dash widgets, don’t like the car launchers on android play store so want to get this set for me. Would like weather. Didn’t install till 9:30 last night so was tired.
Only problem really with install was I took the glove box lamp out to help fit a flush mount Usb for the rear usbs on the head units did a bang up job. It the back of the lamp hots it so not have a horror hole. Luckily I can’t see it and will glue some black plastic over it and do it Saturday when I got the parking camera. A class needs a separate power lead which is supplied so still plug and play really.
Starting up isn’t super slow or super fast. By the time I was off the drive it was working, Rev Can mutes radio. Anyway and works ( black screen for now as no camera)
These are the issues and I’m awaiting a response. Till now Audio tech direct have been great with support pre order and on delivery via Sainsburys.
Issues
On the buttons the green phone answer key does not light up green at all, the red does.
On the built in sat navs there’s no post code search that I could find. Will only use it when remote and can’t get in google maps and anyway. Or camping.
Also in the supplied Navigation I have the volume set at max but when using it this morning with the radio although the radio level dips the audio on the Nav is too low to be heard.
Strangely the radio is only on 1 but at one it’s the same as half way on a normal radio, may be a default system volume I need to change? on the drive last night you could hear it outside the van on 1.
Also on the GPs occasionally it (very quietly) says gps lost, though a check shows at least 10 channels and good fix. This is on my drive with clear sky above and driving in open environment. Still navs though.
Gps aerial is currently on dash of van with clear sky view and as noted the sat navs still seeing satellite.
Blue tooth won’t see my BT elm327 dongle?. Might be the dongle not used it before.
Tried mirror link and it connected to my iPhone but just made a horrible screaching and displayed a grey screen.
Can’t get the radio to come on without key in, not a problem in itself though the previous unit did, main problem is as soon as the key is inserted to get it to turn on it assumes you are driving so can’t show video or dvd even if the engine is off and ignition not even on. And if you take key out it powers down.
So you can’t watch video.
Made three BT calls one clear two a bit crackling but the wife was in her car in the sticks on her handsfree and the Sony BT crackles on my iPhone ad2p connection so might be her. Last night to her m bike was fine. So happy ish.
Main thing is how well the seller supports the little issues I have.
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Danno1975 said:
Got it yesterday. Really nice, few set up issues to iron out as I was tired last night. But for the 2012 Vito it plugged in and worked straight away.
Happy so far with the unit and the UK seller, it’s a good fit, sound is great, works well looks great. Plugged and played no issues even dash display works on radio channels RDS works, the supplied aerial seems better than stock, didn’t come with the Merc boot screen but that’s in settings and was easy to change (pin code 126 I think).
Love the equaliser and speaker adjust app really good and works well, handsfree is fine via the built in mic (my car one is somewhere in the quad lock so guess it’s not used)
Screens is good, not as sharp as my iPhone but it’s not a £700 Apple product. I had hoped it would be more vibrant but this may be as it was in night mode and I can play with settings. Not used to android so will get my head around it.
Torque app looks good but couldn’t connect to dongle.
Had a few issues getting this onto iPhone WiFi but I think this is the iPhone as it the same with iPad too. WiFi seems good. Was a fair way from house and WiFi from house was connected even though the phone wouldn’t and it’s a newish iPhone 7 so + 1 to the head unit.
Can’t figure out how to change the dash widgets, don’t like the car launchers on android play store so want to get this set for me. Would like weather. Didn’t install till 9:30 last night so was tired.
Only problem really with install was I took the glove box lamp out to help fit a flush mount Usb for the rear usbs on the head units did a bang up job. It the back of the lamp hots it so not have a horror hole. Luckily I can’t see it and will glue some black plastic over it and do it Saturday when I got the parking camera. A class needs a separate power lead which is supplied so still plug and play really.
Starting up isn’t super slow or super fast. By the time I was off the drive it was working, Rev Can mutes radio. Anyway and works ( black screen for now as no camera)
These are the issues and I’m awaiting a response. Till now Audio tech direct have been great with support pre order and on delivery via Sainsburys.
Issues
On the buttons the green phone answer key does not light up green at all, the red does.
On the built in sat navs there’s no post code search that I could find. Will only use it when remote and can’t get in google maps and anyway. Or camping.
Also in the supplied Navigation I have the volume set at max but when using it this morning with the radio although the radio level dips the audio on the Nav is too low to be heard.
Strangely the radio is only on 1 but at one it’s the same as half way on a normal radio, may be a default system volume I need to change? on the drive last night you could hear it outside the van on 1.
Also on the GPs occasionally it (very quietly) says gps lost, though a check shows at least 10 channels and good fix. This is on my drive with clear sky above and driving in open environment. Still navs though.
Gps aerial is currently on dash of van with clear sky view and as noted the sat navs still seeing satellite.
Blue tooth won’t see my BT elm327 dongle?. Might be the dongle not used it before.
Tried mirror link and it connected to my iPhone but just made a horrible screaching and displayed a grey screen.
Can’t get the radio to come on without key in, not a problem in itself though the previous unit did, main problem is as soon as the key is inserted to get it to turn on it assumes you are driving so can’t show video or dvd even if the engine is off and ignition not even on. And if you take key out it powers down.
So you can’t watch video.
Made three BT calls one clear two a bit crackling but the wife was in her car in the sticks on her handsfree and the Sony BT crackles on my iPhone ad2p connection so might be her. Last night to her m bike was fine. So happy ish.
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What cars do you guys use with your Android Head Units?

Hi guys,
I was just wondering what car makes & models you use with your Android Head Unit?
I'm currently looking for a (used) car to buy that I wish to upgrade with an Android Head Unit. Unfortunately I'm having trouble finding many cars (made in the last 10 years) with a 2 DIN slot, so I was wondering what cars are people using with their Android Head Unit.
Thanks in advance.

Having bought Joying HU I had to spend many years to find a car to match and failed. I had to print my car around Joying HU on a 3-d printer, and now I almost happy. So is Joying:
https://yadi.sk/i/mWcxn5dZ3UDZBF

ste2002 said:
Having bought Joying HU I had to spend many years to find a car to match and failed. I had to print my car around Joying HU on a 3-d printer, and now I almost happy. So is Joying:
https://yadi.sk/i/mWcxn5dZ3UDZBF
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lol. But seriously what car model are you using it on?

I like the way Joying works with VW/Skoda cars dated 2006-2013 for having CAN bus adapter and factory equipment looks.

First unit (Pumpkin) was in a 2003 Chevy Suburban. I now have a 2013 RAM (Dodge) 1500 with a Joying Sofia and I just put one in my wife's 2005 Infiniti G35 about two weeks ago.
Suburban was easy, RAM required a cause install kit I had to file down a bit. The Infiniti was a huge pain. Wiring harness didn't have all wires so I had to splice into some. The heat and AC controls are on the same circuit board as the radio, so it all has to be replaced. The aftermarket install kit is expensive and chinsy (from what I read) so I paid a little more and got a double din factory panel, made for the Nissan Skyline, sent from Japan.
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SkyBehind said:
First unit (Pumpkin) was in a 2003 Chevy Suburban. I now have a 2013 RAM (Dodge) 1500 with a Joying Sofia and I just put one in my wife's 2005 Infiniti G35 about two weeks ago.
Suburban was easy, RAM required a cause install kit I had to file down a bit. The Infiniti was a huge pain. Wiring harness didn't have all wires so I had to splice into some. The heat and AC controls are on the same circuit board as the radio, so it all has to be replaced. The aftermarket install kit is expensive and chinsy (from what I read) so I paid a little more and got a double din factory panel, made for the Nissan Skyline, sent from Japan.
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Looks really good though, nice job.

Look at my report:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...port-unit-px3-2gb-16gb-android-7-1-2-t3726311
This is in a 2013 Altima V6. Great car and even better with this unit.
My car came with the 5" display (backup camera, XM radio, USB but no navigation).
The fit and finish are exemplary.

Another v6 Nissan Altima here, 2017 3.5SL, got the 10.2" Dasaita px5 2gb octo-core running Malaysia rom v6.2.
Wiring was a bit of a pain, reseller sent the wrong wiring harness and canbus adapter. Hacked together a new harness and managed to get them to send the correct canbus adapter.
Overall very happy with the results, integration with oem backup camera, steering controls, etc. Audio quality is its biggest downfall, but I think this is also b/c the Altima bose setups are junk

crator1349 said:
Another v6 Nissan Altima here, 2017 3.5SL, got the 10.2" Dasaita px5 2gb octo-core running Malaysia rom v6.2.
Wiring was a bit of a pain, reseller sent the wrong wiring harness and canbus adapter. Hacked together a new harness and managed to get them to send the correct canbus adapter.
Overall very happy with the results, integration with oem backup camera, steering controls, etc. Audio quality is its biggest downfall, but I think this is also b/c the Altima bose setups are junk
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Do you have the same FM radio app as I have? (the one that does not let you change the name of stations in memory). I am curious to find out if there is a better one somewhere.

Didier99 said:
Do you have the same FM radio app as I have? (the one that does not let you change the name of stations in memory). I am curious to find out if there is a better one somewhere.
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I use the stock one, I only really listen to one station other than that it's Spotify or audible. I remember seeing someone made a custom radio app on here for these Android units,but I never tried it. Can't seem to find it in the main px5 app repo thread though maybe it was removed

I dont know how to google right term so im gonna ask here. Why manufacturers like Pioneer,Sony,Kenwood wont produce HU with complete android operating system?

crator1349 said:
I use the stock one, I only really listen to one station other than that it's Spotify or audible. I remember seeing someone made a custom radio app on here for these Android units,but I never tried it. Can't seem to find it in the main px5 app repo thread though maybe it was removed
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OK, it's not a severe problem as the radio works well enough, but it is irritating that something that sounds as simple as being able to enter a name for a stored station is not available. I also saw that the FCC launcher has a page for saving radio stations' names, but that does not work with my radio app and I could not find what app I am supposed to use.

g3ar said:
I dont know how to google right term so im gonna ask here. Why manufacturers like Pioneer,Sony,Kenwood wont produce HU with complete android operating system?
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A) They want to control the entire user experience
B) Not be liable for people running third party apps on branded equipment
C) They're building music players / navigation devices for the mainstream, not hackable devices for nerds.

Thanks leonkernan for answer. Well i must say that i never looked in that direction But you pretty much nailed the point. Next question. So nowadays they offer car stereos with android auto or apple car play. Are they providing updates for that apps installed on car stereo, how is that managable? (english is not my native so i'm sorry in advance )

ste2002 said:
Having bought Joying HU I had to spend many years to find a car to match and failed. I had to print my car around Joying HU on a 3-d printer, and now I almost happy. So is Joying:
https://yadi.sk/i/mWcxn5dZ3UDZBF
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:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: lmao you just killed me ___________________ i flatlined

Mine's in my E46 BMW

Got a modell specific PX5 4gb ram hu from witson in my Kia Pro Ceed 2010, fits like a glove
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Anyone using theirs in an Evo? I have an Evo 8MR, and I'm somewhat limited to what I can buy, which sucks. I wanted to try something that looks more oem, but meh.

I drive a 2015 Camry, has 12 steering wheel buttons on 3 lines, plenty of room for a universal 2-din mounted in an aftermarket adapter. Has CAN but I never did anything with that. I'm interfaced to the oem GPS antenna, Mic, and aux/usb input.

I put a Pumpkin unit into my E46, worked very well, but Pumpkin don't like to share their firmware,
so in my VW EOS I put a Joying UK-JY-VM130N2D specifically made for the UK market, but supplied with German language apps and base system for some peculiar reason. Joying are easy to get along with, they will answer emails, but only one per day, once again for reasons known only to the Chinese mentality. My daughter-in-law is Chinese and she also does things in a weird way to my western mind......
Anyway, the joying was the best experience, it did suffer from the battery drain problem with the original can-bus module that came with it, but Joying sent one free of charge and that fixed it. This one has a digital amplifier built-in and it sounds great to my old ears-in my misspent youth I was a rock band member and we always used the same setup on stage so my right ear is pretty shot.
I have since disposed of the E46, but I use the EOS daily and the unit does all I want. I did the heatsink and fan mod advocated by so many on here, but to be honest, in the ****ty weather we get here in Poole most of the year there is no problem with overheating!
Piccies of the E46 and EOS installs attached. The first is the E46 with Pumpkin, second is the E46 with original head unit, third is the original MFD2 EOS head unit (for sale) and last is the EOS with the Joying unit.