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Windows on Advent Vega

Hello im new to android i have a advent vega but will love it to have some sort of windows on it if anyone has any ideas or if this is possible please post thanks

Apparently the next version of Windows will be able to run on ARM processors such as the Tegra 2 in the Vega. I doubt it'll end up on the Vega, though someone might port it over.
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If we do get windows on vega, would be able to install windows software such as skype,msn etc i probaly guess so but please correct if im wrong

I would be very surprised if windows will ever come to our vegas. Memory i would say is the main issue, xp would be the only one able to run with 512mb of ram, and that has poor touch screen support. I am running windows 7 with 1gb of ram (min system req) on my laptop, and it runs very slow. As far as i am aware even the netbook version needs 1gb. Be happy with android.

I wasn't really talking about windows 7 (although i would like that) but windows CE or windows mobile.
PS . As I said I only want it for the software.

yioti said:
I wasn't really talking about windows 7 (although i would like that) but windows CE or windows mobile.
PS . As I said I only want it for the software.
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Won't ever happen, windosws mobile is all closed source. Android is much better anyway, just get used to it

Agreed, winmob on the vega prob wont occour.
I too, miss some great apps and games which doubtfully will ever appear on andriod. The android gaming community, seems a little shallower than the wince lot.
I stll keep my htc touch and diamnd 2 specifically because of this.
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i think if we can get android 3.0 (or whatever the numbers will be) on our vega's, its more then enough to have enough fun with it, an operating system that does not thing its a smartphone and optimized for tablets. i used many android smartphones before, but using even 2.2 on vega is more fun then any smartphone i think, at least you can read web sites and not harm your eyes
PS : i have a joojoo tablet too, which runs win7 and i think android is better and faster on a tablet like vega ( tegra2 tabets).

Some of the cheap import tablets like the Zenithink ZT-180 have roms for WinCE - but from what I have read nobody really uses them since even WinCE is pretty poor as a tablet OS (well, that and the ZT-180 is pretty rubbish!).

as a student you can get the windows embedded 7 development kit for free, that should be able to run on the advent vega but my knowledge isnt yet sufficient to build and deploy a rom in order t test it

I honestly don't understand this kind of question:
You have Windows a system built for PCs and to be operated specific using keyboard and mouse.
And then you have Android a system built for mobile devices to be operated specific with a touch screen.
I guess the question is not IF it's possible, but WHY in a hell would anyone even bother porting it?
Do you miss msn and skype? I got news for you, just download Skype and eBuddy from the market. Solved!

Budius said:
I honestly don't understand this kind of question:
You have Windows a system built for PCs and to be operated specific using keyboard and mouse.
And then you have Android a system built for mobile devices to be operated specific with a touch screen.
I guess the question is not IF it's possible, but WHY in a hell would anyone even bother porting it?
Do you miss msn and skype? I got news for you, just download Skype and eBuddy from the market. Solved!
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What about office tools? i have yet to find a decent word processor that retains all (or most) of word's features.
sadly, while gdocs looks lovely, writing documents is still a pain..

Although I also wish that I could do some serious work on my tablet / smartphone, you simply can not do it (too small screen => primarily wasn't meant for this kind of job, but it's great in mobility and therefore "valuable information on the go").
Tablets & smartphones are used to consume / present information and PCs / workstations are used to generate that information.
I have also tried all kind of Office software (QuickOffice HD, Polaris Office, Docs To Go, GDocs,...), but reality is that generating information on Android is 30-50% slower than on a 20" monitor with keyboard & mouse hooked on a PC.
Yes, you could make a new office software on Android that would need a keyboard, mouse & external monitor, but that would defeat the purpose of mobility.
And sadly there is no such good software on Android with so many funtionalities that are found in Microsoft Office.
IMHO you can do up to 30 minutes of work without problems, for anything above that, please do yourself a favor and use a PC.

This something that may interest you. Only on ipad as of now, but I am sure will be on android soon.
Stokesy
Edit OK can't post a link... search windows thin client via on live.

Yes, I already heard of that tech.
It's something like remote desktop (but a bit better).
http://desktop.onlive.com/overview
Will see how this performs in real life when it's released for Android.

stokesyblack said:
This something that may interest you. Only on ipad as of now, but I am sure will be on android soon.
Stokesy
Edit OK can't post a link... search windows thin client via on live.
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And that time is NOW!
OnLive Desktop is now available on Android:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.onlive.desktop
For free registration and more info, check my above post!
I would like to hear your thoughts on this software!
EDIT: It appears the download is US only.
Here is a link to APK file.

Hmmmm interesting I am downloading now
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Yani, its a good app, have you tried? I will use this all the time when I use my Vega during work. I find the windows apps quite poor on Android (I uses docs to go). This is great for reading and creating basic files. There are a few problems I have found so far.
1. The UI is not really designed for touch screen, I used with my docking station, keyboard and mouse but still was hard to click on the right part due to the alignment being off slightly on the mouse pointer.
2. Docs saved to the virtual desktop can be downloaded from a site called files.onlive.com. However when you try to access this site it says 'only available in USA'. So might be a nightmare to get off what you have created.
What do you think?
Stokesy
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stokesyblack said:
Yani, its a good app, have you tried? I will use this all the time when I use my Vega during work. I find the windows apps quite poor on Android (I uses docs to go). This is great for reading and creating basic files. There are a few problems I have found so far.
1. The UI is not really designed for touch screen, I used with my docking station, keyboard and mouse but still was hard to click on the right part due to the alignment being off slightly on the mouse pointer.
2. Docs saved to the virtual desktop can be downloaded from a site called files.onlive.com. However when you try to access this site it says 'only available in USA'. So might be a nightmare to get off what you have created.
What do you think?
Stokesy
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Sorry, but I haven't used this myself.
If you read my signature, I'm still on stock Froyo and this app needs at least Gingerbread.
I've read only good things about this.
I use QuickOffice for documents, but I only view documents, and these android office apps aren't even good at that!
But I've tried OnLive (for gaming) on SGS and it's amazing!!!!111one
Now to get some answers for your questions:
1. I think you need to restart your OnLive desktop in order to fully accept your mouse&keyboard input.
2. I went to https://desktop.onlive.com/account/myfiles and uploaded a doc file and then redownloaded it without a problem. I'm from Slovenia - EU and I've used Firefox on a PC with Ubuntu/Linux OS.

hi lats how to install im write my email address and nothing why sombody help mi?thanks

[Q] Handwriting apps

Hi - has anyone found a decent notes taking tool that uses a stylus for handwritten notes ?
using my Ipad with a simple Pogo i can get really useful results but i havent found any App for the Acer yet that seems to be of any use.

Nope, neither diopen not flex speak.tap.write.trace work for me.
I haven't found ANY keyboard app that does handwriting, let alone properly!.

I only know Handrite, don't know if it is what you are looking for

FlexT9 keyboard has a handwriting feature that works ok. It would probably work alot better with a stylus, but I've only ever tried it with my finger.

thanks all, tried i think pretty much all apps that accept finger (stylus) writing but not a single one of them gives any kind of legible notes. Shame as even the freebies on the Ipad are pretty good, and i REALLY want to use my Acer more for meetings and this is an absolute necessity to be able to to that -

Freenote is the best app I've found in the market for handwriting notes. I tried Pensupremacy and tabnotes before this. Bought both of them actually and freenote beats them both in my opinion. I use it for all my meetings now and dont have to carry a notebook, you can write and draw on the same page. embed pictures and stuff as well.

Using A500 as Drawing Tab (Wi-Fi or USB) - APP?

As the healine reads I'm looking for an application to link the Tablet to my Windows 7 PC and use it as a drawing tablet.
Any one aware of an app that can do this?
I have searched the net, I did find something similar like 3 months back but I didn't save the link and can't remember what in the great pavement special I typed in.
Thanks for all the help.

deathofkai said:
As the healine reads I'm looking for an application to link the Tablet to my Windows 7 PC and use it as a drawing tablet.
Any one aware of an app that can do this?
I have searched the net, I did find something similar like 3 months back but I didn't save the link and can't remember what in the great pavement special I typed in.
Thanks for all the help.
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I can't answer your question, but IMHO I wouldn't use the tab for this because the screen is not precise enough for drawing.

It is possible to remotely access your desktop on your tablet but I don't think you can use the pressure sensitive drawing abilities of tablet on your pc.
The easiest way is using sketchbook pro. Theres plenty of youtube videos on how awesome it is.

And adobe is releasing their new apps for tablets soon.

PC is becoming tablet?

Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?

i think such idea of app market on the W8 is for the tablet, that is ok though, as long as they figure out away to port win32 software to run on apps, i would be the first one to get in line to get the tablet, other than that, i am good with my asus transformer

Strike_Eagle said:
Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?
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For tablets, maybe netbooks with a little screen, its a good OS. But... on a 24 inch Monitor? Serious, I tested the preview and in Metro the handling with mouse and keyboards sucks! It even interrups the productivity flow in the "desktop app". If I am on the classic desktop and want to open a programm from the start menu: Why do I have to go back to the start screen and type.
This is so unintuitive and doesn't suit to the desktop design at all...

the thing is, Microsoft has focus more on the Tablet than our - PC user.
You can see almost everything on the Keynote of Steve on CES 2012 (which has just ended ) is focus on the mobility of the technology nowday.
Tablet with ARM/ x64 / x86 , nVIDIA Tegra are all cool. But hand down, they didn't notice anything about the original idea of PC , yes, when i mean the mouse and the keyboard.
The idea behind Marketplace for Windows 8 PC is something still new. And i hope, the marketplace is like a place where we can search all kind of applications for PC around the web without having google/bing it around.
Don't get me wrong , i am a Microsoft fan and i own a Windows Phone.

Strike_Eagle said:
The idea behind Marketplace for Windows 8 PC is something still new. And i hope, the marketplace is like a place where we can search all kind of applications for PC around the web without having google/bing it around.
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Thats the point! The marketplace is just for Metro apps and I don't understand why I should use an app if I have a internetbrowser (ebay, etc). The apps are optimized for small screens so it's just annoying to swipe with your mouse or use some strange shortcuts to show up the menu bar if you have enough space to display everything you need.

The link for whoever missed the keynote:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/ces/liveevent.aspx
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Yes. The thing is, there is no point from moving to use an app to control the web-based service like Ebay or Amazon. I mean, if you have a touch screen, you would love to do that because i know that typing on the touch screen is such pain in the ass.
But with PC is different, a mouse and keyboard are far more advanced than a touch screen. We have been using our browser to do most stuffs, we don't need an app to do that. For example, i can have IE9 , and i can do most stuffs from betting on Ebay to buying stuffs on Amazon without having anything extra installed except for some flash plug-ins. So why choosing install many different apps and make your PC slower while you can get everything just by a click of a mouse on the icon of the browser?
Many people would say to me that if i don't like it then don't use it, but that isn't a point. It is fine that Microsoft try to make a buck over tablets , but they seem to be forgetting about PC user like us, i hear nothing about the original PC in the keynote except some new Laptops and Intel's new path for the future. That's why i am little bit disappointed.

CES is all about what is cool and hip today. Right now that is mobile devices so MS's CES pitch focuses on Windows 8. MS is leaving CES after this year so they can focus on getting the message they want out without having to follow the hot theme and control better the presentation of their message. You can expect that message to be heavily based around HTML 5 and web based apps to the detriment of those that develop windows apps.

I'm new to Windows 8 in general so be gentle...
(These are meant as general comments, not picking on you Strike_Eagle, you were just the last post I read.)
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The link for whoever missed the keynote:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/ces/liveevent.aspx
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Thanks for that, watching now!
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Yes. The thing is, there is no point from moving to use an app to control the web-based service like Ebay or Amazon.
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Agree completely here. I don't even use those types of apps on my Xoom, if its a browser based service or app, I just use the Xooms browser. It's a real browser, no need for an app.
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But with PC is different, a mouse and keyboard are far more advanced than a touch screen.
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I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
Strike_Eagle said:
It is fine that Microsoft try to make a buck over tablets , but they seem to be forgetting about PC user like us <snip>.
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I see this as much more than MS looking to make a buck on tablets. As power of mobile devices increases, as "cloud" (I hate that term) storage becomes more prevalent, its going to be very important to have a seamless experience across devices. For example, I use Google Music and Chrome. No matter what device I'm on, Xoom, desktop, laptop, all of my playlists and bookmarks are the same. This is where I think MS is going with Windows 8, they're looking to have their OS be everywhere and work the same (or similar) no matter what device you're on. Or at least be flexible enough to do that.

FuturePrimitive said:
I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
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lol no.
With multitouch you can zoom, rotate, roll and that's it, with a precision that is useless for most task but browser internet and catalog some photos.
For example, let's say that we have a picture of 2000x1500 and we want to select a square of 256x256... with multitouch you can't do that.
In fact, clicking a single link can become a tedious work of zoom then click.

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(These are meant as general comments, not picking on you Strike_Eagle, you were just the last post I read.).
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Oh, don't need to worry about it, it is cool. Forum is a place for discussion, right?
FuturePrimitive said:
I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
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Yea, i got your point man. Everything has its own advantage. Something which is so great to use the multi-touch. I never say that the multitouch would be a replacement for the mouse anytime soon. But my point, was like, Something which is designed for Multi-Touch might not be a great deal for mouse and keyboard.
the word "advanced" here , i mean , you can do more stuffs with a keyboard than a touch-screen, or the keyboard and mouse give you more advantages than the touch-screen give you. Don't get me wrong man, if you do photoshop , you would know that you can do stuffs with the picture by mouse and press the short cut on the keyboard for special effect at the sametime, which is can't be done by multi-touch, Because Multi-Touch is like a combination of mouse and keyboard , for the benifit of portable device.
But with Multi-Touch , you can also do stuffs that you would not ever archieve with a mouse. Well, you know what i mean, like drawing. But the limitation of technology nowday can't take that advantage *yet*. the screen is not that sensitive enough to make a perfect drawing like with Pencil and paper.
This agrument seem to be valid, keep it up man. , i don't hate multi-touch device, because i have myself a HTC Titan and probably a Windows 8 Tablet soon.

ok, you are a hardcore user, then just keep using the desktop. why are you mad that other people will get to use metro.
Tablets and apps are popular nowadays,so you cant ignore it. That is why windows 8 integrated metro. If you dont like it,you dont have to use it. Windows 8 desktop is bringing a bunch of new features as well. The OS is leaner and faster,and more secure.

Now i realized that we forgot about Kinect for PC... Are they trying to have us buy the kinect to use it for the metro UI on PC?

Strike_Eagle said:
Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?
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I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU!
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Isn't the idea of Marketplace that it will have all types of Apps and full applications like Photoshop, office etc? Similar to the Mac App Store?

Hopefully this doesn't have much effect on the gaming industry, mainly shooters. First, they were dumb'd down for consoles, now they could be severely dumb'd down for Tablets. I shudder at the thought.

There will probably be plenty of crossovers from other touch platforms (iOS, Android), but it shouldn't affect the *real* games.

Blacklac said:
Hopefully this doesn't have much effect on the gaming industry, mainly shooters. First, they were dumb'd down for consoles, now they could be severely dumb'd down for Tablets. I shudder at the thought.
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Microsoft has something called " Windows PC Game Marketplace" *if i am not wrong* already.
I have heard about it, i have seen it (Operation Flashpoint : Red River) but i never used it. Valve's Steam is the solution most people looking for. Even Origin can't compare to Steam.

Strike_Eagle said:
Microsoft has something called " Windows PC Game Marketplace" *if i am not wrong* already.
I have heard about it, i have seen it (Operation Flashpoint : Red River) but i never used it. Valve's Steam is the solution most people looking for. Even Origin can't compare to Steam.
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"Games for Windows Live" I think is what you're referring to.

x ZackehSoul x said:
"Games for Windows Live" I think is what you're referring to.
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Yes, thanks for pointing that out.

I wonder if XNA games will play a large role in the Windows App store?

a PowerPoint presentation sofeware summary

Hi all,
I am on a quest(s) to find the best pdf reader, best PowerPoint presenter etc. I teach at a university and use powerpoint for lectures. I also give ppt lectures to professional groups, other universities, etc. What I am looking for is the best ppt presentation software and the ability to do the presentation remotely. I also do (with my win 7 lenovo tablet) portrait presentations, in which I have configured the table to simulate an overhead system where I can write on in "edit the ppt view" while the systems projects this to the class. So this is the back ground. I see great potential for the Note in many ways, but right now I am disappointed. What I hoping is that I can learn from you about this goal. Below I compare software that I have. I also compare with the Note hooked directly to the projector (hdmi or hdmi-vga) and with the allshare cast dongle. (*hdmi means hdmi or hdmi to vga, both direct to tv or projector). This results were a surprise and part of my current disappointment,
1. Touchshow
Needs a converter to change ppt into form the program can use
Fairly good for fonts, maintains proper style for text (e.g., maintains column width)
Picture effects like reflection works
Animation works
3d shapes work
Fonts generally ok
Good color import text and shapes
Annotation works
Terrible green background used to fill in rest of screen
Bad display resolution.
Does not works similarly with both direct hdmi* to tv/projector and the allshare cast dongle
Does not hide bottom tool bar (the one with the return, time, etc.) when using the allshare, but does in the direct mode
Loads relatively quickly
Does not work in profile
2. Office suite pro
Fairly good for fonts, does not maintain proper style for text (e.g., maintains column width) can edit
Picture effects like reflection does not work
Animation works
No 3d shapes do not work
Fonts generally ok
Color off for text and shapes
Does not import lines and arrow correctly
Annotation works
Black background used to fill in rest of screen
Good display resolution.
Does not hide bottom tool bar (the one with the return, time, etc.)
Works similarly with both direct hdmi* to tv/projector and the allshare cast dongle
It can have a problem when you start a presentation and then swipe to a previous slide or do an annotation: the slides become “warped”. If you restart it will work.
Long time to load big files.
Works for profile presentations but not best aspect ratio maintained
3. Polaris
Fairly good for fonts, does not maintain proper style for text (e.g., maintains column width) can edit
Picture effects like reflection does not work
Animation works
No 3d shapes do not work
Fonts generally ok
Color off for text and shapes, but better than office suite pro.
Does not import lines and arrow correctly
Annotation works
Black background used to fill in rest of screen
Good display resolution.
Short time to load big files.
Does not work similarly with both direct hdmi* to tv/projector and the allshare cast dongle.
There are three display choices, primary monitor, duel monitor, controller and note. The first two work the same, bottom bar not hidden. The controller and not setting hides the bottom bar and gives the biggest projected picture (seems to be the biggest and best of all the I have tried). Works great with direct. With the allshare dongle, the first slide is fine. When the second slide comes up, the first slide does not disappear and for the second slide it only show in about ¾ of the screen in the upper left so you do not see the full slide. The rest of the screen is the first slide. This stays the same for the rest of the slides.
Does not work in profile
4. Quick office pro HD
Fairly good for fonts, does maintain proper style for text (e.g., maintains column width) can edit
Picture effects like reflection work
Animation works
No 3d shapes do not work
Some font import problems
Best color text and shapes.
Does not import lines and arrow correctly
No annotation
Black background used to fill in rest of screen
Lower display resolution.
Long tome to load big files.
Hides the bottom bar but then puts in a controller for slide advance at the bottom which is displayed on the screen.
Work similarly with both direct hdmi* to tv/projector and the allshare cast dongle.
Does not work for profile presentations
Works for profile presentations but not best aspect ratio maintained
My summary. There is no one best software. Resolution and annotation issues remove Touchshow and Quickoffice pro even though they have some strong points. The bottom bar issue, the warped slides, slow to load, not 3d shapes lowers Office suite pro, Polaris has some potential. No 3d in slides and they need editing in Polaris to fix font/column issues. What is disappointing is the behavior of the allshare cast with polaris. It that worked (at least for the landscape slides) I could deal with some of the short comings of the software itself. Am I missing some setting for allshare? What else is weird is that the Polaris software in PlayStore is not compatible with our Note 10.1. Very confusing. I have an email into Polaris on this.
So I look to hear what you all use.
dave

dtl said:
So I look to hear what you all use.
dave
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Hi Dave,
I do support for Quickoffice, but it seems like some of your needs/preferences make Quickoffice not the best mobile ppt for you. I recently found Softmaker's suite when looking for something for a customer who needed to work with ODF files.
They have a trial version available, so it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot and see if it meets your needs
-Keri

Office 2012: Presentations
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tYWtlci5hcHBsaWNhdGlvbnMucHJlc2VudGF0aW9ucyJd
Touchshow Powerpoint Player
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS53aHl0b3VjaC53dHBsYXllciJd

qocarekeri said:
Hi Dave,
I do support for Quickoffice, but it seems like some of your needs/preferences make Quickoffice not the best mobile ppt for you. I recently found Softmaker's suite when looking for something for a customer who needed to work with ODF files.
They have a trial version available, so it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot and see if it meets your needs
-Keri
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Hi,
Thank you for your reply. Cool, maybe you can do some more support for Quickoffice as with the problems I have seen, this would not be the best mobile app for anyone wanting to make PowerPoint presentations. It has potential, though. What do you think?
I did try softmaker and it was not so good so I did not report on it.
dave

qocarekeri said:
Hi Dave,
I do support for Quickoffice, but it seems like some of your needs/preferences make Quickoffice not the best mobile ppt for you. I recently found Softmaker's suite when looking for something for a customer who needed to work with ODF files.
They have a trial version available, so it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot and see if it meets your needs
-Keri
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Office 2012: Presentations
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tYWtlci5hcHBsaWNhdGlvbnMucHJlc2VudGF0aW9ucyJd
Touchshow Powerpoint Player
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS53aHl0b3VjaC53dHBsYXllciJd
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Thanks I do have the Presentation mobile, but I did not report. No annotation, bottom bar not hidden. has problems with fonts, importing graphics, and lines/arrows. resolution good, keeps animations. Colors slightly off. things like figure reflections work. No 3d shapes.
TouchShow is the first one I reported on, but thanks for your reply and thoughts.
dave

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dtl said:
Thanks I do have the Presentation mobile, but I did not report. No annotation, bottom bar not hidden. has problems with fonts, importing graphics, and lines/arrows. resolution good, keeps animations. Colors slightly off. things like figure reflections work. No 3d shapes.
TouchShow is the first one I reported on, but thanks for your reply and thoughts.
dave
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Well I just talked with Samsung support and they said that Polaris is not compatable with the dongle. Not really clear why. I have an email into Polaris aboutthis, but they have not responded to my first email yet so who knows.
dave

dtl said:
Hi,
Thank you for your reply. Cool, maybe you can do some more support for Quickoffice as with the problems I have seen, this would not be the best mobile app for anyone wanting to make PowerPoint presentations. It has potential, though. What do you think?
I did try softmaker and it was not so good so I did not report on it.
dave
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We're always adding new features to our suite, so it will continue to improve, but I'm not able to comment on any future developments at this time

dtl said:
Well I just talked with Samsung support and they said that Polaris is not compatable with the dongle. Not really clear why. I have an email into Polaris aboutthis, but they have not responded to my first email yet so who knows.
dave
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I asked Polaris about the 10.1 and the Dongle and they told me they had fixed it on the latest version of the software but what we have on the 10.1 isn't it..
Message below.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your inquiry.
The issue, you reported was fixed
Fixed version would be released on “4.0.5002.30”.
Your version is 4.0.5002.42-FJ03, so it should be fixed and work that feature properly.
One thing we concerned is below part.
For tablet, there's no integration Polaris Office version to support Jelly Bean & ICS for now.
if your Polaris Office full version name ends Odd number like 4.0.5xxx.x3, it's for ICS version and ends Even number like 4.0.5xxx.x2, it's for Jelly Bean version.
Your Polaris Office version is 4.0.5002.42-FJ03, for ICS, please downgrade your OS to ICS and upgrade next when Jelly Bean supports our Polaris Office properly. Or please ask Samsung customer service center whether they have integration Polaris Office version or not.
After downgrade your OS to ICS and there’s same issue, please contact us again.
We will try hard to repay you for all your kindness.
Thanks for your interest.
Polaris Office CS Team

So they're essentially saying Polaris doesn't support Android 4.1+, but does support 4.0 - ? (sorry, but that's hard for me to read there)

qocarekeri said:
So they're essentially saying Polaris doesn't support Android 4.1+, but does support 4.0 - ? (sorry, but that's hard for me to read there)
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Hard for me to read too..
Yes, that seems to be what they are saying.
Reading it again it appears we do have the latest version but it is just not compatible.

qocarekeri said:
We're always adding new features to our suite, so it will continue to improve, but I'm not able to comment on any future developments at this time
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So if you want the ultimate beta test look to me.
Dave

jeremyr62 said:
I asked Polaris about the 10.1 and the Dongle and they told me they had fixed it on the latest version of the software but what we have on the 10.1 isn't it..
Message below.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your inquiry.
The issue, you reported was fixed
Fixed version would be released on “4.0.5002.30”.
Your version is 4.0.5002.42-FJ03, so it should be fixed and work that feature properly.
One thing we concerned is below part.
For tablet, there's no integration Polaris Office version to support Jelly Bean & ICS for now.
if your Polaris Office full version name ends Odd number like 4.0.5xxx.x3, it's for ICS version and ends Even number like 4.0.5xxx.x2, it's for Jelly Bean version.
Your Polaris Office version is 4.0.5002.42-FJ03, for ICS, please downgrade your OS to ICS and upgrade next when Jelly Bean supports our Polaris Office properly. Or please ask Samsung customer service center whether they have integration Polaris Office version or not.
After downgrade your OS to ICS and there’s same issue, please contact us again.
We will try hard to repay you for all your kindness.
Thanks for your interest.
Polaris Office CS Team
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Well I have still not heard back. I sent them the review I did and comments about Polaris. Did you send to support. As for the message from them it is as some point out hard to know exactly what we should do. I already got the answer from Samsung as I pointed out. I still do not know why the version on Play Store in not compatible with any of my devices: Note 10.1 with JB; HP touchpad with ICS (retired); HTC HD2 with JB. Weird.
dave

dtl said:
So if you want the ultimate beta test look to me.
Dave
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Most of our testing is done internally with Google employees, but we're always looking for enthusiastic customers to work with us and be active in our forums - send me a pm with your email so that I can follow up with you if you're interested in participating.

dtl said:
So I look to hear what you all use.
dave
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Great summary - my exact experience over the past few months of doing presentations with my Note 10.1 When Polaris actually worked (I have the screen refresh issue now, but didn't on ICS) that worked great with the Dongle and being able to markup my slides. Of course then the controller + notes option didn't work. For me any software that could at least do a simple slide, allow for markups and have controller + notes would be sufficient. Sadly there isn't even anything that can do that.
So what I use - Sadly I find myself using SplashTop Whiteboard to remote control a PC which at least gives working display and markup abilities. Depressing because I don't need AllShare Cast, or my Note 10.1 for that... could still use my Transformer TF101 for that. Otherwise I just pick one of those same software programs you mentioned based on whatever one's shortcomings has the least impact for any given presentation.
I've tried SoftMaker - don't have a detailed review but don't like the interface and know it doesn't do controller + notes view.

jeggen said:
Great summary - my exact experience over the past few months of doing presentations with my Note 10.1 When Polaris actually worked (I have the screen refresh issue now, but didn't on ICS) that worked great with the Dongle and being able to markup my slides. Of course then the controller + notes option didn't work. For me any software that could at least do a simple slide, allow for markups and have controller + notes would be sufficient. Sadly there isn't even anything that can do that.
So what I use - Sadly I find myself using SplashTop Whiteboard to remote control a PC which at least gives working display and markup abilities. Depressing because I don't need AllShare Cast, or my Note 10.1 for that... could still use my Transformer TF101 for that. Otherwise I just pick one of those same software programs you mentioned based on whatever one's shortcomings has the least impact for any given presentation.
I've tried SoftMaker - don't have a detailed review but don't like the interface and know it doesn't do controller + notes view.
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At a workshop now and would have been great to have the minimum of what said. The potential for this is huge.

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dtl said:
At a workshop now and would have been great to have the minimum of what said. The potential for this is huge.
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Polaris updated on note update. Lets check it out.
Dave

dtl said:
Polaris updated on note update. Lets check it out.
Dave
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Also noticed an update in the Samsung app store. Have a custom ROM so am curious if this is the same version that was pushed out on the updated firmware.
Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk HD

jeggen said:
Also noticed an update in the Samsung app store. Have a custom ROM so am curious if this is the same version that was pushed out on the updated firmware.
Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk HD
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Just looked. In the app store, not the same firmware number and might be older.

jeggen said:
Also noticed an update in the Samsung app store. Have a custom ROM so am curious if this is the same version that was pushed out on the updated firmware.
Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk HD
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Dave,
Ah.... Now I understand what exactly you're trying to achieve vis-a-vis PowerPoint.

djasli said:
Dave,
Ah.... Now I understand what exactly you're trying to achieve vis-a-vis PowerPoint.
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thanks,
I do not have much hope at this. I just received an email from Polaris wanting me to restate the problem. I did and also sent them an image of what I mean as well as a short ppt for them to test.
I think that android ppt programs should concentrate on being a fantastic projection device and not worry a lot about in depth editing. The editing can be done via PC. The android software just needs to accurately impart the ppt and project it well. However, the various makers of the software need to hustle as the new Windows based tablets with the same form factor come out, I suspect the serious ppt users will go to this win platform. That is why I think presentation with inking is the key for Android PPT software.
dave