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Windows 7 on HTC HD2

Hello,
Does anyone knows how to install Windows 7 on the HTC HD2?
I've seen it on You Tube
t seems to me that like Android it is possible to have Windows 7 running on a HTC HD2.
I'm very interested to have it running on mine HD2.
Would anyone help me with it?
Many thanks

that's remote desktop.

windows 7
why would you want to?

thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android

darkanubispr said:
thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android
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There is landscape mode for remote desktop, you just have to flip it to landscape before you connect!
I can use the windows keyboard also.

Until WM7 is figured out it will be more locked down than WM6.5 meaning the opportunities to mod your phone to your liking with be less.

OK,
Thanks for your reply's
I wanted to use Windows 7 because I'll find it very easy to work with and I'm used to it
I tried a WAD-skin from Rajivshahi but the skin doesn't function very well on my device.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
Maybe somebody knows something like Windows XP or Vista wich will work on the HTC HD2?

Are you serious?!?
Look at the specs needed to run Windows 7:
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit).
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit).
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver.
Sure, we do have a 1HGz CPU, it's even 32bit! But it's NOT x86 or x64, it's a RISC processor using the ARMv7 instruction set.
Unless someone gets a hold of the sourcecode for Windows 7 and recompiles it for the ARMv7 instruction set, it won't be possible!
Even IF someone got the sourcecode, there are many things that should be adapted before porting Windows 7 to a mobile device like the HD2.
Oh, and then there's the RAM issue..
Sure, the HD2 has A LOT OF RAM compared to other Windows Mobile devices.. ..but it's still far away from 1 GB.
Which brings us to the next item on the list; "storage space"
In order to have 16GB, we need to use the Memory Card.
Sadly, the transfer speeds to and from the memory card is not as good as the ROM.
I don't have the speed figures right here, so I guess I can't argue that memory card speed isn't possible.
But I am 100% sure you'd need at least Class 6. (Those 16GB Class 6 cards are cheap, right?)
And at the end of the list; DirectX 9 graphics.
Thanks to one or more XDA members, we are slowly but steadily getting better #D hardware drivers.
Though we are not WDDM 1.0 compliant yet.
Probably never will be, as the hardware just isn't good enough.
You'll be happy to know, though, that we are able to emulate enough Intel CPU power to run Windows 95 on our devices!

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BenBok said:
I've seen it on You Tube
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If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"

Hmmm, just curious as to why you'd want something like that in your pocket. Buy an HTC Shift or a TabletPC. It'd much easier for you & probably cheaper to put Windows 7 on if you consider all the Advil, Aleve, Tylenol & whatever other headache medicine you'll save on.

OK,
You've got me convinced.
Dumb idea.
Is there any working skin to do the job on a HD2.
I've seen many skin's/ rom's, but till now nothing looks like something I want.
Maybe there is a site/tutorial how to make such a skin/ROM?

@topic
oh guys....
please....
search..........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677921
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688317

Bonzo said:
If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"
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It's not fake, it's remote desktop.

OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks

HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!

BenBok said:
OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks
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If you have Win7 Home Premium, Home or Basic, you can't.
If you have Win7 Professional or Ultimate, then:
- Connect your HD2 to your Wifi network, then find the IP of the Win7 computer
- To find the IP on the Win7 computer;
click on Start
type ' command ' into the "Search Programs and Files" box
click on "Command Prompt"
type ' ipconfig ' into the black box that appears
press Return or Enter on your keyboard
in the list that comes up, look for "IP address" under the wireless adaptor, usually starts with 192.168
- Open Remote Desktop on your HD2
- Enter the IP address of your computer and try to connect.
- If it doesn't connect, try checking your firewall on your Win7 computer to make sure Remote Desktop is allowed.

netnerd said:
HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!
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Yeah, I agree.
Though I wonder if a bluetooth keyboard would work. probably?
Touch-screen works and that's input. And we can get output from the host computer. Maybe I'll try that one day.

Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps

mannhoe said:
Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps
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Wow, you got Windows 7 on your HD2? Now that would be a development...
(Guess it´s Windows Phone 7, no?).
Concerning apps, I don´t understand what people want...
Is it the number of apps which stands for the quality of what you get? According to my personal experience and opinion, 95% of all apps in Apple´s app store are just crap, and Android? Well, quite a bit chaotic, and quite a lot of crap, too.
But then again, thanks to a huge devs community like you find it here at xda, Android has a massive number of small apps which are really following user requests. And not just farts and other useless joke apps.

[Q] is it possible to install windows 7 on Acer A500 tablet?

Dear Friends,
When I shopped around for a tablet, the last thing that came to my mind was a tablet with OS Windows, however after using android tablet, I feel a tablet with windows is much better as we have software to go with it. I am a trader, I need multi profile sharing, video support, document editors, pdf to word convertors and other related apps to be mobile friendly. Can I install windows 7 on my Acer A500 which is currently running android?
How do I install it? Tablet don't have CD drive.
Where to download win 7 for tablet
Drivers for the tablet
please help
Cheers

I'll give you an advice. Sell your tablet and pack your bags. You are not cut out for installing even a custom rom.
Windows runs so far only on x64-x86 CPUs which are a totally different architecture from ARM.
Apps are incompatible among these two architectures. Windows 8 will run on ARM(yes iconia and all other tablets are ARM) but no previous apps will work unless built from scratch, on Windows 8 ARM edition.

y dont you sell your a500 and buy a w500? should be the easiest way

If you need Window$ (and I completely understand why you might) take a look at the existing windows tablets. Fujitsu just came out with a new slate form tablet that might fit your needs.
XDA is the wrong place to be.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fujitsu+tablet

obvious troll is obvious. see their other post.

Bec07 said:
I'll give you an advice. Sell your tablet and pack your bags. You are not cut out for installing even a custom rom.
Windows runs so far only on x64-x86 CPUs which are a totally different architecture from ARM.
Apps are incompatible among these two architectures. Windows 8 will run on ARM(yes iconia and all other tablets are ARM) but no previous apps will work unless built from scratch, on Windows 8 ARM edition.
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Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.

cool the fujitsu tablet looks real cool. I need to see if I can get a trade in with a top up on this iconia. I also saw the HP slate looks good as well.

Acer Windows Version
The Acer comes with windows 7 also.

kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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If all these things are as important as you say, then why the hell didn't you research your purchase first?

splatoid said:
The Acer comes with windows 7 also.
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A misleading statement. The W500 comes with Windows, not the A500.

kimi.singapore said:
Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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There's your problem!
Tablets are not supposed to be laptop replacements. They are a different class of device entirely.
For some people, it is possible that a tablet can effectively replace a laptop, but it very much depends how you actually use a laptop in the first place. If you use your laptop for email, internet, and maybe some light games, then yes a tablet can replace it. Otherwise, a tablet is likely to be a companion device to another computer (e.g. a desktop or laptop).
In addition, "business friendly" doesn't mean suitable for all business applications. It just means, in my experience at least, that the device can be used for certain business functions, e.g. exchange support, VPN, remote desktop, Citrix etc.
Regards,
Dave

true and agreed, will installing win 7 do any help or will I have to purchase a new tablet? I am not a software person. Tried posting on Acers tech forum to no reply. Need advice if I need the above will a tabket help or do I stick to a laptop

tablet usage
Tablet computers are designed for on the go entertainment media web browsing games and access to online content.I had a Archos 9 win 7 tablet.wait for windows 8 if you want a desktop in a tablet.windows current verson Outright sucks on touch devices.do web searches and YouTube video search of using windows touch. If you need all of that and need it now.I have a 11.6 inch HP dm1 notebook 9 hours battery. Dual core machine. A.tablet will never replace that for actual work.
My tablet however never leaves my sight.awesome for content on the go from my purse.and not cramped on tiny cell screen.

kimi.singapore said:
true and agreed, will installing win 7 do any help or will I have to purchase a new tablet? I am not a software person. Tried posting on Acers tech forum to no reply. Need advice if I need the above will a tabket help or do I stick to a laptop
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You can't install win7, you will need to purchase a new one. If you want to stick with Acer they have a w500 (w for windows, like a500 is a for android). But there a number of other windows tablets out there. But if you are needing heavy windows use and portability, might I recommend a netbook

kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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1. What true business person has to resort to ad-hoc networks? Did you not realize the A500 is wifi only and doesn't have a 3G feature?
2. Why would you need multiple profiles? Are you sharing the tablet with others? A tablet is pretty much considered to be a one-person device like a phone.
3. There are multi-platform video conferencing apps that work. Of course Microsoft and Yahoo apps might not -- this is a Google device. Microsoft apps don't typically function on Apple devices either.
4. So far I use my USB port for card readers, thumbdrives, connecting my digital camera, keyboard, and mouse. This functionality will improve even more with the v3.1 update released within weeks.
5. There are 1/2 dozen Office compatible app suites available for Android. I don't think you would want to install a full version of Office on a mobile device with limited memory/storage.
6. There are plenty of modern and secure alternatives to the 1980's technology of faxing. That being said, there are numerous internet based FAX services that work perfectly with the A500.
7. Printers require drivers, and those come from the printer manufacturer. If they do not produce drivers for Android then you cannot print directly to those printers. However, there are apps that can satisfy your printing requirements. Again, paper and printed documents are becoming a thing of the past. Most industries have moved to digital.
My advice to you is to have your company's IT department set up some sort of RAS/Citrix type system that allows you to use your tablet (whether Android, Windows, or Apple) to connect to a full Windows computer over the internet and run all your standard Windows business apps and functions from there. Otherwise, a tablet (any/all tablets) just simply is not the device for you.

STUBORN SPOTTED ::::A500 WARNING ::::
YOU CAN NOT INSTALL, RUN, OR DO ANYTHING ELSE THAN AN OPERATING SYSTEM BUILD FOR ARM ARCHITECTURE...
Choices
- you go buy a laptop
- you buy a W500 (W stand for WINDOWS)
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
- you recode whole windows for ARM architecture and open a new company armicrosoft with armdows
UNDERSTAND ?
A500 = Android = ARM CPU
W500 = Windows = AMD CPU
M500 = Meego = ???? dunno that one but I bet for A500 under disguise.
As you said you are just a end user... well me before buying something I take some information

kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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Tablets are not meant to replace laptops, whoever told you that does not know what they're talking about, Tablets are more entertainment oriented rather than business.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk

meego x86 only
Meego is sponsored by Intel don't think it will ever run arm.
sanaell said:
STUBORN SPOTTED ::::A500 WARNING ::::
YOU CAN NOT INSTALL, RUN, OR DO ANYTHING ELSE THAN AN OPERATING SYSTEM BUILD FOR ARM ARCHITECTURE...
Choices
- you go buy a laptop
- you buy a W500 (W stand for WINDOWS)
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
- you recode whole windows for ARM architecture and open a new company armicrosoft with armdows
UNDERSTAND ?
A500 = Android = ARM CPU
W500 = Windows = AMD CPU
M500 = Meego = ???? dunno that one but I bet for A500 under disguise.
As you said you are just a end user... well me before buying something I take some information
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sanaell said:
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
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Not just probably: Win8 will ship in x86-64 and ARM-compatible versions. However, that still won't help OP much since it still cannot run x86 applications. OP would still have to wait for all his applications to be ported over to Silverlight and/or ARM versions.
As to the OP himself: you bought a tablet device in order to do business with it, meaning your income is atleast partially dependent on it, yet you didn't bother to do any kind of research on if it will evenbe suitable to such? Tough luck but you brought this on yourself. And as for running Win7 on a tablet device without a physical keyboard and mouse: forget it. It works, but only barely. Get a laptop.

erica_renee said:
My tablet however never leaves my sight.awesome for content on the go from my purse.and not cramped on tiny cell screen.
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Same here. I very rarely leave it at home, it's just such a great device and makes it easy to ogle at pictures of Johnny Depp :3

PC is becoming tablet?

Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?

i think such idea of app market on the W8 is for the tablet, that is ok though, as long as they figure out away to port win32 software to run on apps, i would be the first one to get in line to get the tablet, other than that, i am good with my asus transformer

Strike_Eagle said:
Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?
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For tablets, maybe netbooks with a little screen, its a good OS. But... on a 24 inch Monitor? Serious, I tested the preview and in Metro the handling with mouse and keyboards sucks! It even interrups the productivity flow in the "desktop app". If I am on the classic desktop and want to open a programm from the start menu: Why do I have to go back to the start screen and type.
This is so unintuitive and doesn't suit to the desktop design at all...

the thing is, Microsoft has focus more on the Tablet than our - PC user.
You can see almost everything on the Keynote of Steve on CES 2012 (which has just ended ) is focus on the mobility of the technology nowday.
Tablet with ARM/ x64 / x86 , nVIDIA Tegra are all cool. But hand down, they didn't notice anything about the original idea of PC , yes, when i mean the mouse and the keyboard.
The idea behind Marketplace for Windows 8 PC is something still new. And i hope, the marketplace is like a place where we can search all kind of applications for PC around the web without having google/bing it around.
Don't get me wrong , i am a Microsoft fan and i own a Windows Phone.

Strike_Eagle said:
The idea behind Marketplace for Windows 8 PC is something still new. And i hope, the marketplace is like a place where we can search all kind of applications for PC around the web without having google/bing it around.
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Thats the point! The marketplace is just for Metro apps and I don't understand why I should use an app if I have a internetbrowser (ebay, etc). The apps are optimized for small screens so it's just annoying to swipe with your mouse or use some strange shortcuts to show up the menu bar if you have enough space to display everything you need.

The link for whoever missed the keynote:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/ces/liveevent.aspx
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Yes. The thing is, there is no point from moving to use an app to control the web-based service like Ebay or Amazon. I mean, if you have a touch screen, you would love to do that because i know that typing on the touch screen is such pain in the ass.
But with PC is different, a mouse and keyboard are far more advanced than a touch screen. We have been using our browser to do most stuffs, we don't need an app to do that. For example, i can have IE9 , and i can do most stuffs from betting on Ebay to buying stuffs on Amazon without having anything extra installed except for some flash plug-ins. So why choosing install many different apps and make your PC slower while you can get everything just by a click of a mouse on the icon of the browser?
Many people would say to me that if i don't like it then don't use it, but that isn't a point. It is fine that Microsoft try to make a buck over tablets , but they seem to be forgetting about PC user like us, i hear nothing about the original PC in the keynote except some new Laptops and Intel's new path for the future. That's why i am little bit disappointed.

CES is all about what is cool and hip today. Right now that is mobile devices so MS's CES pitch focuses on Windows 8. MS is leaving CES after this year so they can focus on getting the message they want out without having to follow the hot theme and control better the presentation of their message. You can expect that message to be heavily based around HTML 5 and web based apps to the detriment of those that develop windows apps.

I'm new to Windows 8 in general so be gentle...
(These are meant as general comments, not picking on you Strike_Eagle, you were just the last post I read.)
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The link for whoever missed the keynote:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/ces/liveevent.aspx
(need silverlight)
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Thanks for that, watching now!
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Yes. The thing is, there is no point from moving to use an app to control the web-based service like Ebay or Amazon.
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Agree completely here. I don't even use those types of apps on my Xoom, if its a browser based service or app, I just use the Xooms browser. It's a real browser, no need for an app.
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But with PC is different, a mouse and keyboard are far more advanced than a touch screen.
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I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
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It is fine that Microsoft try to make a buck over tablets , but they seem to be forgetting about PC user like us <snip>.
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I see this as much more than MS looking to make a buck on tablets. As power of mobile devices increases, as "cloud" (I hate that term) storage becomes more prevalent, its going to be very important to have a seamless experience across devices. For example, I use Google Music and Chrome. No matter what device I'm on, Xoom, desktop, laptop, all of my playlists and bookmarks are the same. This is where I think MS is going with Windows 8, they're looking to have their OS be everywhere and work the same (or similar) no matter what device you're on. Or at least be flexible enough to do that.

FuturePrimitive said:
I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
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lol no.
With multitouch you can zoom, rotate, roll and that's it, with a precision that is useless for most task but browser internet and catalog some photos.
For example, let's say that we have a picture of 2000x1500 and we want to select a square of 256x256... with multitouch you can't do that.
In fact, clicking a single link can become a tedious work of zoom then click.

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(These are meant as general comments, not picking on you Strike_Eagle, you were just the last post I read.).
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Oh, don't need to worry about it, it is cool. Forum is a place for discussion, right?
FuturePrimitive said:
I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
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Yea, i got your point man. Everything has its own advantage. Something which is so great to use the multi-touch. I never say that the multitouch would be a replacement for the mouse anytime soon. But my point, was like, Something which is designed for Multi-Touch might not be a great deal for mouse and keyboard.
the word "advanced" here , i mean , you can do more stuffs with a keyboard than a touch-screen, or the keyboard and mouse give you more advantages than the touch-screen give you. Don't get me wrong man, if you do photoshop , you would know that you can do stuffs with the picture by mouse and press the short cut on the keyboard for special effect at the sametime, which is can't be done by multi-touch, Because Multi-Touch is like a combination of mouse and keyboard , for the benifit of portable device.
But with Multi-Touch , you can also do stuffs that you would not ever archieve with a mouse. Well, you know what i mean, like drawing. But the limitation of technology nowday can't take that advantage *yet*. the screen is not that sensitive enough to make a perfect drawing like with Pencil and paper.
This agrument seem to be valid, keep it up man. , i don't hate multi-touch device, because i have myself a HTC Titan and probably a Windows 8 Tablet soon.

ok, you are a hardcore user, then just keep using the desktop. why are you mad that other people will get to use metro.
Tablets and apps are popular nowadays,so you cant ignore it. That is why windows 8 integrated metro. If you dont like it,you dont have to use it. Windows 8 desktop is bringing a bunch of new features as well. The OS is leaner and faster,and more secure.

Now i realized that we forgot about Kinect for PC... Are they trying to have us buy the kinect to use it for the metro UI on PC?

Strike_Eagle said:
Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?
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I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU!
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Isn't the idea of Marketplace that it will have all types of Apps and full applications like Photoshop, office etc? Similar to the Mac App Store?

Hopefully this doesn't have much effect on the gaming industry, mainly shooters. First, they were dumb'd down for consoles, now they could be severely dumb'd down for Tablets. I shudder at the thought.

There will probably be plenty of crossovers from other touch platforms (iOS, Android), but it shouldn't affect the *real* games.

Blacklac said:
Hopefully this doesn't have much effect on the gaming industry, mainly shooters. First, they were dumb'd down for consoles, now they could be severely dumb'd down for Tablets. I shudder at the thought.
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Microsoft has something called " Windows PC Game Marketplace" *if i am not wrong* already.
I have heard about it, i have seen it (Operation Flashpoint : Red River) but i never used it. Valve's Steam is the solution most people looking for. Even Origin can't compare to Steam.

Strike_Eagle said:
Microsoft has something called " Windows PC Game Marketplace" *if i am not wrong* already.
I have heard about it, i have seen it (Operation Flashpoint : Red River) but i never used it. Valve's Steam is the solution most people looking for. Even Origin can't compare to Steam.
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"Games for Windows Live" I think is what you're referring to.

x ZackehSoul x said:
"Games for Windows Live" I think is what you're referring to.
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Yes, thanks for pointing that out.

I wonder if XNA games will play a large role in the Windows App store?

[Q] Questions by a new to Windows 8 user

These questions are regarding my Toshiba Satellite P845t-S4305 I just purchased a few days ago and absolutely love both the laptop and windows 8. I have a few questions and greatly appreciate any help anyone can provide me. I have searched to the best of my abilities and have found all other answers I needed these are what I could not find answers to.
1. Any time that I try to install Microsoft Office I am unsuccessful. I have tried both the trial for Office 365 premium and purchasing the monthly subscription for 9.99. I have an .exe file to install but when I run the program I get a UAC prompt asking me to allow the program to run. I hit yes it disappears and nothing happens. I have tried both 32bit and 64bit versions and I have tried right clicking and run as admin. I have been able to install 7-zip and chrome both of which were .exe files as well.
2. Sometime the mouse behaves weird. I am referring to the touchpad not an actual mouse itis kind of twitchy almost as though someone has connected remotely to the computer and we are both trying to control it at once but this is not the case and it is only occassionally not all the time.
3. What are the limitations to running an app in metro rather than desktop mode for example Chrome I can either run in desktop mode or relaunch in metro what if any limitations do either mode have?
4. Is there a way to get touchpad multitouch gestures similar to a Macbook such as two finger swipe to go back or forward in web browsers or four finger swipe down to open the app switcher? Pinch to zoom using either the touch screen or touchpad would also be convenient.
Thank you all so much for your time reading this I know it is a little detailed.
XDA has always saved me in the past I have no doubt you all will come through once again.
Thank you once more for good measure

The only one of those that's really about Win8 is the Metro vs. Desktop question... The truth is, unless an app is sideloaded or installed from the store, it's not really Metro. Software (including Chrome) can look and feel like Metro, but that's not the same. As for the tradeoffs, Metro apps update through the store (they can't update themselves), run in an extremely restrictive sandbox (can't even read most of the filesystem), have extremely limited multitasking (they can be snapped to the side of the screen, and if expressly written to can run in the background, but that's pretty much it), can sync state across Windows machines with the same account (without using their own syncing code), use the Settings charm for controlling options and permissions, and respond to gestures.
1: No idea what the problem is. Watch Task Manager as you begin the install; check what happens after consent.exe (the UAC prompt) goes away. Also, obviously, reboot (if you haven't already) and also make sure your Windows is up to date.
2: Hardware or driver (hardware-sepcific) problem. I can't help you, ask the manufacturer.
3: Answered above.
4: Yes, use a decent touchpad and/or driver for it. My 4 year old HP laptop supports multi-touch even in Win7.

erasmogjr said:
These questions are regarding my Toshiba Satellite P845t-S4305 I just purchased a few days ago and absolutely love both the laptop and windows 8. I have a few questions and greatly appreciate any help anyone can provide me. I have searched to the best of my abilities and have found all other answers I needed these are what I could not find answers to.
1. Any time that I try to install Microsoft Office I am unsuccessful. I have tried both the trial for Office 365 premium and purchasing the monthly subscription for 9.99. I have an .exe file to install but when I run the program I get a UAC prompt asking me to allow the program to run. I hit yes it disappears and nothing happens. I have tried both 32bit and 64bit versions and I have tried right clicking and run as admin. I have been able to install 7-zip and chrome both of which were .exe files as well.
2. Sometime the mouse behaves weird. I am referring to the touchpad not an actual mouse itis kind of twitchy almost as though someone has connected remotely to the computer and we are both trying to control it at once but this is not the case and it is only occassionally not all the time.
3. What are the limitations to running an app in metro rather than desktop mode for example Chrome I can either run in desktop mode or relaunch in metro what if any limitations do either mode have?
4. Is there a way to get touchpad multitouch gestures similar to a Macbook such as two finger swipe to go back or forward in web browsers or four finger swipe down to open the app switcher? Pinch to zoom using either the touch screen or touchpad would also be convenient.
Thank you all so much for your time reading this I know it is a little detailed.
XDA has always saved me in the past I have no doubt you all will come through once again.
Thank you once more for good measure
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1. Check add/remove as Toshiba may have installed a "trial" version or Starter edition. You should remove any previous versions of office installed by Toshiba, doubtful they are full and sounds like you have your own you prefer.
2. Try updated drivers, I've found the Toshiba touchpad to be very finicky and harder to control vs other's though. I have used it on Portege R930 and Z930 and I can't say I really like the experience compared with other's like HP or Dell.
4. Try the utility for the touchpad.

goofball2k said:
1. Check add/remove as Toshiba may have installed a "trial" version or Starter edition. You should remove any previous versions of office installed by Toshiba, doubtful they are full and sounds like you have your own you prefer.
2. Try updated drivers, I've found the Toshiba touchpad to be very finicky and harder to control vs other's though. I have used it on Portege R930 and Z930 and I can't say I really like the experience compared with other's like HP or Dell.
4. Try the utility for the touchpad.
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1. worked perfectly there was a trial version of office installed as soon as I removed it everything went as it should and I now have my office installed thank you so much
2. coming from a macbook left me with high expectations for the touchpad but the touch screen really makes up for that. I always thought the macbook would be perfect with a touchscreen.
4.I will have to look this up thank you

DuOS-M Discussion

DuOS-M is commercial software developed by American Megatrends for Intel x86-based computers using the Microsoft Windows operating system to provide a "dual operating system" environment in which the user can simultaneously deploy the Android operating system in tandem with Microsoft Windows.
DuOS-M supports key hardware peripherals in Windows including cameras, audio, microphone and sensors such as ambient light sensor, accelerometer, gyrometer, compass and orientation sensors. It also supports various screen sizes, resolutions, and screen orientation (portrait and landscape) along with 3D acceleration and HD video playback.
The first version of DuOS-M was released in June 2014. The software is available for download for a free 30-day trial, and is available for purchase for a complete license (currently $9.99 US).
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Homepage: http://amiduos.com/
I'm surprised there's no discussion on this in xda developers, so I thought I'd start one.
Personal experiences :
I wanted to find an alternative to Andy and Genymotion which rely on VirtualBox since the VirtualBox's ndis filter drivers make my Windows 8.1 desktop regularly bluescreen. There's also Bluestacks but that always seemed to run poorly on even powerful computers.
DuOS-M is based on Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean). They've stated they have no slated support for KitKat since they don't see it as a significant upgrade, but are looking into Android-L support. It comes pre-installed with the Amazon Marketplace. It can run both native x86 android apps and ARM apps out of the box. After installation it takes you to a page that explains how to easily install the Google Play Store / Services:
Installing Google Play Store:
http://amiduos.com/nextsteps
If you scroll down on the above link it also has instructions how to root your installation, which is dead simple.
I really like how Google Play, ARM Support, and Root support are all baked into the process.
Unfortunately I was unable to run this on my Windows 8.1 Enterprise edition desktop since it's running the Hyper-V role which DuOS-M doesn't support (shows a warning on startup that virtualization isn't enabled and then hangs when you OK the warning). I could disable Hyper-V (via removing the role or adding a boot flag option with Hyper-V disabled) but I develop too often with Windows Phone 8 to do that right now.
I next tested it on my ASUS VivoBook 11.6" (1366x768) Touchscreen Laptop which has a Celeron 1007U Dual Core CPU and 4GB memory running Windows 8.1. It runs surprisingly well, better than Genymotion in most cases. It's not perfect, Word With Friends for instance has weird missing textures. But it has been able to run things I've never gotten to work in Genymotion or Bluestacks, such as video streaming in Qloud Media player. Since this is a touch screen laptop all gestures and touch controls seems to work great, in addition to the keyboard/mouse controls. I like how DuOS-M doesn't install a new virtual network card on the host machine and seems to support Internet access transparently.
They recently just released a 32-bit beta version which I'm eager to try on my Dell Venue 8 Pro 8" Windows tablet. At $9.99 I'll probably purchase a copy before my 30-days are up. I'm curious to hear other people's thoughts on DuOS-M. Hopefully with more users/feedback they can continue improving this great Android virtualization alternative.

I've recently purchased DuOS-M.
Compared with Bluestacks, DuOS is a Ferrari. I'm using it on a Lenovo Yoga and i'm very impressed.
My Lenovo has a mobile core i5 processor but this is no problem at all.
All apps and games are running without lag. I did see some glitches but nothing serious.
Overall i'm very pleased with DuOS-M.
It would be nice to see what happens if XDA modders and cookers shine a light on this one!

It's nice...
Really lightweight and fast to install...
Has some limitations like no resizable window, but great overall.

tfouto said:
It's nice...
Really lightweight and fast to install...
Has some limitations like no resizable window, but great overall.
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DuOS will not launch in Full screen when the System RAM is less than 3GB, even though full screen is set in Configuration tool or 0 is set in xml configuration file.
This is known issue and this will be fixed in future release.

Seems like the latest update has fixed the fullscreen issue! Runs quite well on my Asus T100.

whopper2005 said:
I've recently purchased DuOS-M.
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Does Titanium Backup work using DuosM?

LochNiss said:
Does Titanium Backup work using DuosM?
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Seemed to work fine, go ahead and try it for yourself, the trial version is fully functional for 30 days.

Did you have to buy it or is it to find it for free? thx for the anwser :

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Did you have to buy it or is it to find it for free? thx for the anwser :
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You can try the full version for 30 days.
After that its $9.99 USD.

vampirexhunter said:
You can try the full version for 30 days.
After that its $9.99 USD.
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Does DuOS have a Lollipop image yet ?

Just wondering if anyone found a way around the syscheck (in particular, the 1GB ram). I'm running this on my Surface Pro and it blows Bluestacks out of the water. So I was thinking of running it on an HP Stream 7, a cheapo Windows tablet, but it only has 1GB ram. Getting a "Unfortunately you do not have enough memory to install DuOS-m." error.

DuOS vs Bluestack vs Genymotion vs Andyroid, which one better?

Isn't it VirtualBox also?
TalynOne said:
I wanted to find an alternative to Andy and Genymotion which rely on VirtualBox since the VirtualBox's ndis filter drivers make my Windows 8.1 desktop regularly bluescreen. There's also Bluestacks but that always seemed to run poorly on even powerful computers.
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Fun fact: This version uses a custom build of VirtualBox. If you dig around, you can find the VHD files and VM config.
Unfortunately, without some reverse engineering, you can't just mount the disks in a VBox VM and go, there's some local host-only networking going on that I'm assuming helps authenticate to the licensing server or something, because trying to launch it gets it stuck after initializing the network interfaces (probably waiting for UDP packets).
Since the virtual nics are in NAT mode, I'm assuming that's why your PC isn't bluescreening, since NAT networking doesn't actually hook your interfaces but is translated from within the VBox software.
I am curious as to how this will work if I install VirtualBox side-by-side.... (it's currently on a separate vanilla test machine).

DuOS is really great, i just installed it and fell in love with straight away. but Has any one tried windroye, it seems to perform well and also has a mobile companion... I'm using it in high end machine so cant really tell the difference. so anyone who tried can you share your opinion ?
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Is there any to install this on PC without Graphics Card ?

christiano9911 said:
Is there any to install this on PC without Graphics Card ?
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Do you mean using integrated graphics? If so, yes. Works perfectly with my built in graphics card on my laptop.
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no
I mean without graphics card!

For those who've run it on a 32-bit device (older laptop or maybe the Dell Venue Pro 8), any chance you guys can provide the msi installation file? I'd like to try this on an HP Stream 7 which only has 1GB ram.

Apparently AMI is/ will be announcing DuOS 5 at MWC, obviously hoping they have bumped it up to lollipop.

Does anyone has available the keyboard shortcuts list, for zooming and multitouch actions? I can't find it anymore on the official website