Dear Friends,
When I shopped around for a tablet, the last thing that came to my mind was a tablet with OS Windows, however after using android tablet, I feel a tablet with windows is much better as we have software to go with it. I am a trader, I need multi profile sharing, video support, document editors, pdf to word convertors and other related apps to be mobile friendly. Can I install windows 7 on my Acer A500 which is currently running android?
How do I install it? Tablet don't have CD drive.
Where to download win 7 for tablet
Drivers for the tablet
please help
Cheers
I'll give you an advice. Sell your tablet and pack your bags. You are not cut out for installing even a custom rom.
Windows runs so far only on x64-x86 CPUs which are a totally different architecture from ARM.
Apps are incompatible among these two architectures. Windows 8 will run on ARM(yes iconia and all other tablets are ARM) but no previous apps will work unless built from scratch, on Windows 8 ARM edition.
y dont you sell your a500 and buy a w500? should be the easiest way
If you need Window$ (and I completely understand why you might) take a look at the existing windows tablets. Fujitsu just came out with a new slate form tablet that might fit your needs.
XDA is the wrong place to be.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fujitsu+tablet
obvious troll is obvious. see their other post.
Bec07 said:
I'll give you an advice. Sell your tablet and pack your bags. You are not cut out for installing even a custom rom.
Windows runs so far only on x64-x86 CPUs which are a totally different architecture from ARM.
Apps are incompatible among these two architectures. Windows 8 will run on ARM(yes iconia and all other tablets are ARM) but no previous apps will work unless built from scratch, on Windows 8 ARM edition.
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Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
cool the fujitsu tablet looks real cool. I need to see if I can get a trade in with a top up on this iconia. I also saw the HP slate looks good as well.
Acer Windows Version
The Acer comes with windows 7 also.
kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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If all these things are as important as you say, then why the hell didn't you research your purchase first?
splatoid said:
The Acer comes with windows 7 also.
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A misleading statement. The W500 comes with Windows, not the A500.
kimi.singapore said:
Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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There's your problem!
Tablets are not supposed to be laptop replacements. They are a different class of device entirely.
For some people, it is possible that a tablet can effectively replace a laptop, but it very much depends how you actually use a laptop in the first place. If you use your laptop for email, internet, and maybe some light games, then yes a tablet can replace it. Otherwise, a tablet is likely to be a companion device to another computer (e.g. a desktop or laptop).
In addition, "business friendly" doesn't mean suitable for all business applications. It just means, in my experience at least, that the device can be used for certain business functions, e.g. exchange support, VPN, remote desktop, Citrix etc.
Regards,
Dave
true and agreed, will installing win 7 do any help or will I have to purchase a new tablet? I am not a software person. Tried posting on Acers tech forum to no reply. Need advice if I need the above will a tabket help or do I stick to a laptop
tablet usage
Tablet computers are designed for on the go entertainment media web browsing games and access to online content.I had a Archos 9 win 7 tablet.wait for windows 8 if you want a desktop in a tablet.windows current verson Outright sucks on touch devices.do web searches and YouTube video search of using windows touch. If you need all of that and need it now.I have a 11.6 inch HP dm1 notebook 9 hours battery. Dual core machine. A.tablet will never replace that for actual work.
My tablet however never leaves my sight.awesome for content on the go from my purse.and not cramped on tiny cell screen.
kimi.singapore said:
true and agreed, will installing win 7 do any help or will I have to purchase a new tablet? I am not a software person. Tried posting on Acers tech forum to no reply. Need advice if I need the above will a tabket help or do I stick to a laptop
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You can't install win7, you will need to purchase a new one. If you want to stick with Acer they have a w500 (w for windows, like a500 is a for android). But there a number of other windows tablets out there. But if you are needing heavy windows use and portability, might I recommend a netbook
kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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1. What true business person has to resort to ad-hoc networks? Did you not realize the A500 is wifi only and doesn't have a 3G feature?
2. Why would you need multiple profiles? Are you sharing the tablet with others? A tablet is pretty much considered to be a one-person device like a phone.
3. There are multi-platform video conferencing apps that work. Of course Microsoft and Yahoo apps might not -- this is a Google device. Microsoft apps don't typically function on Apple devices either.
4. So far I use my USB port for card readers, thumbdrives, connecting my digital camera, keyboard, and mouse. This functionality will improve even more with the v3.1 update released within weeks.
5. There are 1/2 dozen Office compatible app suites available for Android. I don't think you would want to install a full version of Office on a mobile device with limited memory/storage.
6. There are plenty of modern and secure alternatives to the 1980's technology of faxing. That being said, there are numerous internet based FAX services that work perfectly with the A500.
7. Printers require drivers, and those come from the printer manufacturer. If they do not produce drivers for Android then you cannot print directly to those printers. However, there are apps that can satisfy your printing requirements. Again, paper and printed documents are becoming a thing of the past. Most industries have moved to digital.
My advice to you is to have your company's IT department set up some sort of RAS/Citrix type system that allows you to use your tablet (whether Android, Windows, or Apple) to connect to a full Windows computer over the internet and run all your standard Windows business apps and functions from there. Otherwise, a tablet (any/all tablets) just simply is not the device for you.
STUBORN SPOTTED ::::A500 WARNING ::::
YOU CAN NOT INSTALL, RUN, OR DO ANYTHING ELSE THAN AN OPERATING SYSTEM BUILD FOR ARM ARCHITECTURE...
Choices
- you go buy a laptop
- you buy a W500 (W stand for WINDOWS)
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
- you recode whole windows for ARM architecture and open a new company armicrosoft with armdows
UNDERSTAND ?
A500 = Android = ARM CPU
W500 = Windows = AMD CPU
M500 = Meego = ???? dunno that one but I bet for A500 under disguise.
As you said you are just a end user... well me before buying something I take some information
kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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Tablets are not meant to replace laptops, whoever told you that does not know what they're talking about, Tablets are more entertainment oriented rather than business.
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meego x86 only
Meego is sponsored by Intel don't think it will ever run arm.
sanaell said:
STUBORN SPOTTED ::::A500 WARNING ::::
YOU CAN NOT INSTALL, RUN, OR DO ANYTHING ELSE THAN AN OPERATING SYSTEM BUILD FOR ARM ARCHITECTURE...
Choices
- you go buy a laptop
- you buy a W500 (W stand for WINDOWS)
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
- you recode whole windows for ARM architecture and open a new company armicrosoft with armdows
UNDERSTAND ?
A500 = Android = ARM CPU
W500 = Windows = AMD CPU
M500 = Meego = ???? dunno that one but I bet for A500 under disguise.
As you said you are just a end user... well me before buying something I take some information
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sanaell said:
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
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Not just probably: Win8 will ship in x86-64 and ARM-compatible versions. However, that still won't help OP much since it still cannot run x86 applications. OP would still have to wait for all his applications to be ported over to Silverlight and/or ARM versions.
As to the OP himself: you bought a tablet device in order to do business with it, meaning your income is atleast partially dependent on it, yet you didn't bother to do any kind of research on if it will evenbe suitable to such? Tough luck but you brought this on yourself. And as for running Win7 on a tablet device without a physical keyboard and mouse: forget it. It works, but only barely. Get a laptop.
erica_renee said:
My tablet however never leaves my sight.awesome for content on the go from my purse.and not cramped on tiny cell screen.
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Same here. I very rarely leave it at home, it's just such a great device and makes it easy to ogle at pictures of Johnny Depp :3
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Hello,
Does anyone knows how to install Windows 7 on the HTC HD2?
I've seen it on You Tube
t seems to me that like Android it is possible to have Windows 7 running on a HTC HD2.
I'm very interested to have it running on mine HD2.
Would anyone help me with it?
Many thanks
that's remote desktop.
windows 7
why would you want to?
thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android
darkanubispr said:
thats not remote desktop because in remote desktop you cant use it in letterbox orientation, and doesnt have any keyboard the movie its very buggy thats a sign of uncompatible graphic mode but if thats real its good to have it like ubuntu and android
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There is landscape mode for remote desktop, you just have to flip it to landscape before you connect!
I can use the windows keyboard also.
Until WM7 is figured out it will be more locked down than WM6.5 meaning the opportunities to mod your phone to your liking with be less.
OK,
Thanks for your reply's
I wanted to use Windows 7 because I'll find it very easy to work with and I'm used to it
I tried a WAD-skin from Rajivshahi but the skin doesn't function very well on my device.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
Maybe somebody knows something like Windows XP or Vista wich will work on the HTC HD2?
Are you serious?!?
Look at the specs needed to run Windows 7:
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit).
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit).
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver.
Sure, we do have a 1HGz CPU, it's even 32bit! But it's NOT x86 or x64, it's a RISC processor using the ARMv7 instruction set.
Unless someone gets a hold of the sourcecode for Windows 7 and recompiles it for the ARMv7 instruction set, it won't be possible!
Even IF someone got the sourcecode, there are many things that should be adapted before porting Windows 7 to a mobile device like the HD2.
Oh, and then there's the RAM issue..
Sure, the HD2 has A LOT OF RAM compared to other Windows Mobile devices.. ..but it's still far away from 1 GB.
Which brings us to the next item on the list; "storage space"
In order to have 16GB, we need to use the Memory Card.
Sadly, the transfer speeds to and from the memory card is not as good as the ROM.
I don't have the speed figures right here, so I guess I can't argue that memory card speed isn't possible.
But I am 100% sure you'd need at least Class 6. (Those 16GB Class 6 cards are cheap, right?)
And at the end of the list; DirectX 9 graphics.
Thanks to one or more XDA members, we are slowly but steadily getting better #D hardware drivers.
Though we are not WDDM 1.0 compliant yet.
Probably never will be, as the hardware just isn't good enough.
You'll be happy to know, though, that we are able to emulate enough Intel CPU power to run Windows 95 on our devices!
YouTube
BenBok said:
I've seen it on You Tube
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If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"
Hmmm, just curious as to why you'd want something like that in your pocket. Buy an HTC Shift or a TabletPC. It'd much easier for you & probably cheaper to put Windows 7 on if you consider all the Advil, Aleve, Tylenol & whatever other headache medicine you'll save on.
OK,
You've got me convinced.
Dumb idea.
Is there any working skin to do the job on a HD2.
I've seen many skin's/ rom's, but till now nothing looks like something I want.
Maybe there is a site/tutorial how to make such a skin/ROM?
@topic
oh guys....
please....
search..........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677921
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688317
Bonzo said:
If you look closely at that video in 720p, you'll notice the contents of "Computer"
I find it HIGHLY unlikely that his HD2 has THAT much storage space on either C: or D:
Where he's gotten that third local disk drive from, I have no idea..
Or how he got two DVD-ROMs conneted to it.
In the words of the youtube trolls; "Fake!"
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It's not fake, it's remote desktop.
OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks
HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!
BenBok said:
OK,
Since I'm curious how it's done, maybe one of you wants to tell me how to connect to my PC (windows 7) with Remote Desktop Mobile.
I'm not familiar with it, please tell me in plain English. Thanks
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If you have Win7 Home Premium, Home or Basic, you can't.
If you have Win7 Professional or Ultimate, then:
- Connect your HD2 to your Wifi network, then find the IP of the Win7 computer
- To find the IP on the Win7 computer;
click on Start
type ' command ' into the "Search Programs and Files" box
click on "Command Prompt"
type ' ipconfig ' into the black box that appears
press Return or Enter on your keyboard
in the list that comes up, look for "IP address" under the wireless adaptor, usually starts with 192.168
- Open Remote Desktop on your HD2
- Enter the IP address of your computer and try to connect.
- If it doesn't connect, try checking your firewall on your Win7 computer to make sure Remote Desktop is allowed.
netnerd said:
HD2 with capacitive screen is freaking useless on remote desktop!
if you want to remote desktop, get a windows phone with resistive screen!
notice on the video, he never used the on-screen keyboard (remote pc keyboard) cus it freaking impossible to use on capacitive screen!
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Yeah, I agree.
Though I wonder if a bluetooth keyboard would work. probably?
Touch-screen works and that's input. And we can get output from the host computer. Maybe I'll try that one day.
Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps
mannhoe said:
Hi guys, i tried to install windows 7 on my HD2,
seems ok.
but Android is the way forward for apps
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Wow, you got Windows 7 on your HD2? Now that would be a development...
(Guess it´s Windows Phone 7, no?).
Concerning apps, I don´t understand what people want...
Is it the number of apps which stands for the quality of what you get? According to my personal experience and opinion, 95% of all apps in Apple´s app store are just crap, and Android? Well, quite a bit chaotic, and quite a lot of crap, too.
But then again, thanks to a huge devs community like you find it here at xda, Android has a massive number of small apps which are really following user requests. And not just farts and other useless joke apps.
Hello im new to android i have a advent vega but will love it to have some sort of windows on it if anyone has any ideas or if this is possible please post thanks
Apparently the next version of Windows will be able to run on ARM processors such as the Tegra 2 in the Vega. I doubt it'll end up on the Vega, though someone might port it over.
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If we do get windows on vega, would be able to install windows software such as skype,msn etc i probaly guess so but please correct if im wrong
I would be very surprised if windows will ever come to our vegas. Memory i would say is the main issue, xp would be the only one able to run with 512mb of ram, and that has poor touch screen support. I am running windows 7 with 1gb of ram (min system req) on my laptop, and it runs very slow. As far as i am aware even the netbook version needs 1gb. Be happy with android.
I wasn't really talking about windows 7 (although i would like that) but windows CE or windows mobile.
PS . As I said I only want it for the software.
yioti said:
I wasn't really talking about windows 7 (although i would like that) but windows CE or windows mobile.
PS . As I said I only want it for the software.
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Won't ever happen, windosws mobile is all closed source. Android is much better anyway, just get used to it
Agreed, winmob on the vega prob wont occour.
I too, miss some great apps and games which doubtfully will ever appear on andriod. The android gaming community, seems a little shallower than the wince lot.
I stll keep my htc touch and diamnd 2 specifically because of this.
Rgds
F
android
i think if we can get android 3.0 (or whatever the numbers will be) on our vega's, its more then enough to have enough fun with it, an operating system that does not thing its a smartphone and optimized for tablets. i used many android smartphones before, but using even 2.2 on vega is more fun then any smartphone i think, at least you can read web sites and not harm your eyes
PS : i have a joojoo tablet too, which runs win7 and i think android is better and faster on a tablet like vega ( tegra2 tabets).
Some of the cheap import tablets like the Zenithink ZT-180 have roms for WinCE - but from what I have read nobody really uses them since even WinCE is pretty poor as a tablet OS (well, that and the ZT-180 is pretty rubbish!).
as a student you can get the windows embedded 7 development kit for free, that should be able to run on the advent vega but my knowledge isnt yet sufficient to build and deploy a rom in order t test it
I honestly don't understand this kind of question:
You have Windows a system built for PCs and to be operated specific using keyboard and mouse.
And then you have Android a system built for mobile devices to be operated specific with a touch screen.
I guess the question is not IF it's possible, but WHY in a hell would anyone even bother porting it?
Do you miss msn and skype? I got news for you, just download Skype and eBuddy from the market. Solved!
Budius said:
I honestly don't understand this kind of question:
You have Windows a system built for PCs and to be operated specific using keyboard and mouse.
And then you have Android a system built for mobile devices to be operated specific with a touch screen.
I guess the question is not IF it's possible, but WHY in a hell would anyone even bother porting it?
Do you miss msn and skype? I got news for you, just download Skype and eBuddy from the market. Solved!
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What about office tools? i have yet to find a decent word processor that retains all (or most) of word's features.
sadly, while gdocs looks lovely, writing documents is still a pain..
Although I also wish that I could do some serious work on my tablet / smartphone, you simply can not do it (too small screen => primarily wasn't meant for this kind of job, but it's great in mobility and therefore "valuable information on the go").
Tablets & smartphones are used to consume / present information and PCs / workstations are used to generate that information.
I have also tried all kind of Office software (QuickOffice HD, Polaris Office, Docs To Go, GDocs,...), but reality is that generating information on Android is 30-50% slower than on a 20" monitor with keyboard & mouse hooked on a PC.
Yes, you could make a new office software on Android that would need a keyboard, mouse & external monitor, but that would defeat the purpose of mobility.
And sadly there is no such good software on Android with so many funtionalities that are found in Microsoft Office.
IMHO you can do up to 30 minutes of work without problems, for anything above that, please do yourself a favor and use a PC.
This something that may interest you. Only on ipad as of now, but I am sure will be on android soon.
Stokesy
Edit OK can't post a link... search windows thin client via on live.
Yes, I already heard of that tech.
It's something like remote desktop (but a bit better).
http://desktop.onlive.com/overview
Will see how this performs in real life when it's released for Android.
stokesyblack said:
This something that may interest you. Only on ipad as of now, but I am sure will be on android soon.
Stokesy
Edit OK can't post a link... search windows thin client via on live.
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And that time is NOW!
OnLive Desktop is now available on Android:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.onlive.desktop
For free registration and more info, check my above post!
I would like to hear your thoughts on this software!
EDIT: It appears the download is US only.
Here is a link to APK file.
Hmmmm interesting I am downloading now
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Yani, its a good app, have you tried? I will use this all the time when I use my Vega during work. I find the windows apps quite poor on Android (I uses docs to go). This is great for reading and creating basic files. There are a few problems I have found so far.
1. The UI is not really designed for touch screen, I used with my docking station, keyboard and mouse but still was hard to click on the right part due to the alignment being off slightly on the mouse pointer.
2. Docs saved to the virtual desktop can be downloaded from a site called files.onlive.com. However when you try to access this site it says 'only available in USA'. So might be a nightmare to get off what you have created.
What do you think?
Stokesy
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stokesyblack said:
Yani, its a good app, have you tried? I will use this all the time when I use my Vega during work. I find the windows apps quite poor on Android (I uses docs to go). This is great for reading and creating basic files. There are a few problems I have found so far.
1. The UI is not really designed for touch screen, I used with my docking station, keyboard and mouse but still was hard to click on the right part due to the alignment being off slightly on the mouse pointer.
2. Docs saved to the virtual desktop can be downloaded from a site called files.onlive.com. However when you try to access this site it says 'only available in USA'. So might be a nightmare to get off what you have created.
What do you think?
Stokesy
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Sorry, but I haven't used this myself.
If you read my signature, I'm still on stock Froyo and this app needs at least Gingerbread.
I've read only good things about this.
I use QuickOffice for documents, but I only view documents, and these android office apps aren't even good at that!
But I've tried OnLive (for gaming) on SGS and it's amazing!!!!111one
Now to get some answers for your questions:
1. I think you need to restart your OnLive desktop in order to fully accept your mouse&keyboard input.
2. I went to https://desktop.onlive.com/account/myfiles and uploaded a doc file and then redownloaded it without a problem. I'm from Slovenia - EU and I've used Firefox on a PC with Ubuntu/Linux OS.
hi lats how to install im write my email address and nothing why sombody help mi?thanks
Windows RT[WP8 in disguise] wont succeed
Microsoft remove the desktop from it intentionally
so it wont compete the PC market and Intel ofc
so what we getting is just Windows Phone 8 OS Like
ARM is strong enuf to replace PC
many interests to keep ARM in this state
i hate close code always block the future
Microsoft thinks we are wanting her "marketing" os
no, we want windows!
Microsoft is moving towards a more power friendly and more manageable application model in WinRT (the framework). Of course they don't want their tablets to run non-power-optimized code and therefore only support Metro-Style-Applications.
Given that even newest Quad-Core-ARM chips only compete in computational power with Intel's slow Atom CPUs I highly doubt that most of the interesting Desktop applications would work properly.
So even if I'm doubtful if Windows RT will succeed in the tablet market (depends on which devices will be there and how quickly developers create good Metro Apps) I don't think that it will fail because they almost removed the Desktop.
i mean there no reason to choose windows RT before android or iOS
cos Windows RT is Stripped version of Windows 8
and doesn't give us something more then WP7
what the point if there keyboard and mouse for tablet with windows RT
Thread title sounds like a caveman.
agreed have suggestion ?
Proz00 said:
what the point if there keyboard and mouse for tablet with windows RT
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Office perhaps? Which is actually onboard with every Windows RT device.
Also nothing technically speaks against mouse/pen optimized Apps on basis of Metro Apps (Image editing, etc. - the mouse is simply more exact than a finger).
Aside from that a keyboard makes quite a lot of sense whenever you're typing a longer text (E-Mail, forum post, etc.)
As for a topic title: "Windows RT won't succeed" would be the closest to the current.
Office application in metro style ?
no way
thx for fix
Proz00 said:
Office application in metro style ?
no way
thx for fix
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In Windows RT on ARM tablets will be a complete Office 2013 with Word, Excel, Powerpoint and OneNote.
They are not built as a Metro Style App (fullscreen metro app)! They are just the same as on x86 and are running in desktop mode. So every Windows RT tablet will have the same office experience as a tablet or notebook running Windows 8 (Pro).
Proz00 said:
Microsoft remove the desktop from it intentionally
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Nope, they don't.
Win32 applications won't run because... they can't.
But the traditional desktop and files explorer will be there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQe11XKkJlY#t=1m55s
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Nope, they don't.
Win32 applications won't run because... they can't.
But the traditional desktop and files explorer will be there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQe11XKkJlY#t=1m55s
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Windows RT will come loaded with Office 2013 RT
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/arm-powered-windows-rt-to-run-office-2013-rt/
http://arstechnica.com/information-...hots-show-elegant-fusion-of-ribbon-and-metro/
however its looking good
i think metro will cap generally the OS potential
like IE10 metro version, have very little options .....
I guess it's far less Metro-Design that limits the options and functionality than the fact that those applications have been in development for far less time than their Desktop counter parts.
You won't see the control density you have on the Desktop now, simply because hit boxes would be too small which would make the apps fail certification for the Marketplace but aside from that I see pretty little functionality you could not create using WinRT as the basis.
I'm still really curious how many apps and what apps will be available when Windows 8 and Windows RT finally launch.
RT will certainly be interesting - Microsoft blocking non appstore applications could make it a somewhat limited device.
Still, may be a huge success. Only time will tell
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zeromention said:
RT will certainly be interesting - Microsoft blocking non appstore applications could make it a somewhat limited device.
Still, may be a huge success. Only time will tell
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but doesnt it support different "app stores"
so for example, an ideal setup would be to have your own company hub, which contains all needed local tools, these can be push updated and centrally managed across all win 8 sites,
So if thats possible i dont see why we couldnt do the same, much like we have custom app stores for Windows phone. unless is some kind of server side domain add on...that would suck!
as you say, time will tell but if it is locked down and the security is similar to Windows Phone 7, then its going to be a pain in the arse to crack open, say what you want about WP but its tighter than a ducks arse! were it not for OEM cockups we'd have no development at all!
Acer Aspire 5552
-AMD Athlon II X2 P320 processor 2.1 Ghz
-ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
-4 GB DDR3 Memory
-500 GB HDD
-1366x768 HD LCD
1: Will this laptop run Windows 8 with all available options, such as splitting apps and all?
2: Running the upgrade assistant, it says secure boot isn't supported on my system. Is this a worry?
3: If I upgrade, will I keep all my programs and documents?
4: Is iTunes, Skype, Steam, Hamachi, Chrome, Microsoft Office 2007 and Photoshop CS5 all compatible?
5: My track-pad is a Synaptics one. Will Windows 8 drivers give it all the different gestures for Windows 8?
6: What is it like without a touch-screen? Should I buy a touch-mouse and, if so, what one?
Brad387 said:
Acer Aspire 5552
-AMD Athlon II X2 P320 processor 2.1 Ghz
-ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
-4 GB DDR3 Memory
-500 GB HDD
-1366x768 HD LCD
1: Will this laptop run Windows 8 with all available options, such as splitting apps and all?
2: Running the upgrade assistant, it says secure boot isn't supported on my system. Is this a worry?
3: If I upgrade, will I keep all my programs and documents?
4: Is iTunes, Steam, Hamachi, Chrome, Microsoft Office 2007 and Photoshop CS5 all compatible?
5: My track-pad is a Synaptics one. Will Windows 8 drivers give it all the different gestures for Windows 8?
6: What is it like without a touch-screen? Should I buy a touch-mouse and, if so, what one?
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1. Not a guarantee, but splitting apps should work - however useless that feature is.
2. Secure boot blocks anything besides Windows from booting up, which is helpful to almost all Windows users, but probably not xda members.
3. Don't do the upgrade. People have had so many problems with it that it is much better to dual boot imo.
4. iTunes - not sure but probably, seeing as it is just a music application and doesn't direcly interface with hardware
Steam - yes
Hamachi - no idea
Chrome - yes
Office - yes
CS5 - yes
5. It SHOULD
6. I would say that a proper trackpad is ergonomically superior to a touchscreen. Sure it's a little more awkward but you don't have to lift your hand up to it. When I upgraded to 8 my two finger scrolling became almost as smooth as it is on Mac. The only inconvenient part about not having a touchscreen (imo) is having to drag the mouse from the top of the screen to the bottom in order to close apps, but it is way easier to just alt + f4 it.
But if you are like me you won't even touch Metro apps. My start screen consists of my desktop apps and shortcuts to various folders. It retains all of the functionality of the old start menu. Just stuff has been moved around that's all. You can still hit windows (or click start) and start typing away. But now if you want to click on something to open it you have the whole screen available, and you can pick which programs are on there, instead of just your most recent ones.
JihadSquad said:
1. Not a guarantee, but splitting apps should work - however useless that feature is.
2. Secure boot blocks anything besides Windows from booting up, which is helpful to almost all Windows users, but probably not xda members.
3. Don't do the upgrade. People have had so many problems with it that it is much better to dual boot imo.
4. iTunes - not sure but probably, seeing as it is just a music application and doesn't direcly interface with hardware
Steam - yes
Hamachi - no idea
Chrome - yes
Office - yes
CS5 - yes
5. It SHOULD
6. I would say that a proper trackpad is ergonomically superior to a touchscreen. Sure it's a little more awkward but you don't have to lift your hand up to it. When I upgraded to 8 my two finger scrolling became almost as smooth as it is on Mac. The only inconvenient part about not having a touchscreen (imo) is having to drag the mouse from the top of the screen to the bottom in order to close apps, but it is way easier to just alt + f4 it.
But if you are like me you won't even touch Metro apps. My start screen consists of my desktop apps and shortcuts to various folders. It retains all of the functionality of the old start menu. Just stuff has been moved around that's all. You can still hit windows (or click start) and start typing away. But now if you want to click on something to open it you have the whole screen available, and you can pick which programs are on there, instead of just your most recent ones.
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Why shouldn't it be able to run Windows 8 in full, since it more than passes the minimum system requirements? Will the performance of my laptop improve or become worse than with Windows 7? I really would like for Hamachi to work, so if anybody knows please leave a message. What is the point of dual-booting? I really do just want to upgrade. What problems are there with that?
Brad387 said:
Why shouldn't it be able to run Windows 8 in full, since it more than passes the minimum system requirements? Will the performance of my laptop improve or become worse than with Windows 7? I really would like for Hamachi to work, so if anybody knows please leave a message. What is the point of dual-booting? I really do just want to upgrade. What problems are there with that?
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If something goes wrong, you still have your old os. Also upgrading windows is generally a bad idea because of all the problems it causes. If you wanted to upgrade I would back up everything to an external drive and format it.
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If something goes wrong, you still have your old os. Also upgrading windows is generally a bad idea because of all the problems it causes. If you wanted to upgrade I would back up everything to an external drive and format it.
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I will likely still keep Windows 7 then, if upgrading is that risky. I cannot be bothered to reinstall everything or transfer all my files. My laptop is really important for my education and also just in my daily life. I don't want any risk to it. Thanks for the help though...
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I will likely still keep Windows 7 then, if upgrading is that risky. I cannot be bothered to reinstall everything or transfer all my files. My laptop is really important for my education and also just in my daily life. I don't want any risk to it. Thanks for the help though...
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No problem
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No problem
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It will take me hours to reinstall all my games and software, especially since I can't even remember where I put the discs for some of them any more. Not worth it.
DuOS-M is commercial software developed by American Megatrends for Intel x86-based computers using the Microsoft Windows operating system to provide a "dual operating system" environment in which the user can simultaneously deploy the Android operating system in tandem with Microsoft Windows.
DuOS-M supports key hardware peripherals in Windows including cameras, audio, microphone and sensors such as ambient light sensor, accelerometer, gyrometer, compass and orientation sensors. It also supports various screen sizes, resolutions, and screen orientation (portrait and landscape) along with 3D acceleration and HD video playback.
The first version of DuOS-M was released in June 2014. The software is available for download for a free 30-day trial, and is available for purchase for a complete license (currently $9.99 US).
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Homepage: http://amiduos.com/
I'm surprised there's no discussion on this in xda developers, so I thought I'd start one.
Personal experiences :
I wanted to find an alternative to Andy and Genymotion which rely on VirtualBox since the VirtualBox's ndis filter drivers make my Windows 8.1 desktop regularly bluescreen. There's also Bluestacks but that always seemed to run poorly on even powerful computers.
DuOS-M is based on Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean). They've stated they have no slated support for KitKat since they don't see it as a significant upgrade, but are looking into Android-L support. It comes pre-installed with the Amazon Marketplace. It can run both native x86 android apps and ARM apps out of the box. After installation it takes you to a page that explains how to easily install the Google Play Store / Services:
Installing Google Play Store:
http://amiduos.com/nextsteps
If you scroll down on the above link it also has instructions how to root your installation, which is dead simple.
I really like how Google Play, ARM Support, and Root support are all baked into the process.
Unfortunately I was unable to run this on my Windows 8.1 Enterprise edition desktop since it's running the Hyper-V role which DuOS-M doesn't support (shows a warning on startup that virtualization isn't enabled and then hangs when you OK the warning). I could disable Hyper-V (via removing the role or adding a boot flag option with Hyper-V disabled) but I develop too often with Windows Phone 8 to do that right now.
I next tested it on my ASUS VivoBook 11.6" (1366x768) Touchscreen Laptop which has a Celeron 1007U Dual Core CPU and 4GB memory running Windows 8.1. It runs surprisingly well, better than Genymotion in most cases. It's not perfect, Word With Friends for instance has weird missing textures. But it has been able to run things I've never gotten to work in Genymotion or Bluestacks, such as video streaming in Qloud Media player. Since this is a touch screen laptop all gestures and touch controls seems to work great, in addition to the keyboard/mouse controls. I like how DuOS-M doesn't install a new virtual network card on the host machine and seems to support Internet access transparently.
They recently just released a 32-bit beta version which I'm eager to try on my Dell Venue 8 Pro 8" Windows tablet. At $9.99 I'll probably purchase a copy before my 30-days are up. I'm curious to hear other people's thoughts on DuOS-M. Hopefully with more users/feedback they can continue improving this great Android virtualization alternative.
I've recently purchased DuOS-M.
Compared with Bluestacks, DuOS is a Ferrari. I'm using it on a Lenovo Yoga and i'm very impressed.
My Lenovo has a mobile core i5 processor but this is no problem at all.
All apps and games are running without lag. I did see some glitches but nothing serious.
Overall i'm very pleased with DuOS-M.
It would be nice to see what happens if XDA modders and cookers shine a light on this one!
It's nice...
Really lightweight and fast to install...
Has some limitations like no resizable window, but great overall.
tfouto said:
It's nice...
Really lightweight and fast to install...
Has some limitations like no resizable window, but great overall.
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DuOS will not launch in Full screen when the System RAM is less than 3GB, even though full screen is set in Configuration tool or 0 is set in xml configuration file.
This is known issue and this will be fixed in future release.
Seems like the latest update has fixed the fullscreen issue! Runs quite well on my Asus T100.
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I've recently purchased DuOS-M.
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Does Titanium Backup work using DuosM?
LochNiss said:
Does Titanium Backup work using DuosM?
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Seemed to work fine, go ahead and try it for yourself, the trial version is fully functional for 30 days.
Did you have to buy it or is it to find it for free? thx for the anwser :
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Did you have to buy it or is it to find it for free? thx for the anwser :
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You can try the full version for 30 days.
After that its $9.99 USD.
vampirexhunter said:
You can try the full version for 30 days.
After that its $9.99 USD.
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Does DuOS have a Lollipop image yet ?
Just wondering if anyone found a way around the syscheck (in particular, the 1GB ram). I'm running this on my Surface Pro and it blows Bluestacks out of the water. So I was thinking of running it on an HP Stream 7, a cheapo Windows tablet, but it only has 1GB ram. Getting a "Unfortunately you do not have enough memory to install DuOS-m." error.
DuOS vs Bluestack vs Genymotion vs Andyroid, which one better?
Isn't it VirtualBox also?
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I wanted to find an alternative to Andy and Genymotion which rely on VirtualBox since the VirtualBox's ndis filter drivers make my Windows 8.1 desktop regularly bluescreen. There's also Bluestacks but that always seemed to run poorly on even powerful computers.
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Fun fact: This version uses a custom build of VirtualBox. If you dig around, you can find the VHD files and VM config.
Unfortunately, without some reverse engineering, you can't just mount the disks in a VBox VM and go, there's some local host-only networking going on that I'm assuming helps authenticate to the licensing server or something, because trying to launch it gets it stuck after initializing the network interfaces (probably waiting for UDP packets).
Since the virtual nics are in NAT mode, I'm assuming that's why your PC isn't bluescreening, since NAT networking doesn't actually hook your interfaces but is translated from within the VBox software.
I am curious as to how this will work if I install VirtualBox side-by-side.... (it's currently on a separate vanilla test machine).
DuOS is really great, i just installed it and fell in love with straight away. but Has any one tried windroye, it seems to perform well and also has a mobile companion... I'm using it in high end machine so cant really tell the difference. so anyone who tried can you share your opinion ?
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Is there any to install this on PC without Graphics Card ?
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Is there any to install this on PC without Graphics Card ?
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Do you mean using integrated graphics? If so, yes. Works perfectly with my built in graphics card on my laptop.
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I mean without graphics card!
For those who've run it on a 32-bit device (older laptop or maybe the Dell Venue Pro 8), any chance you guys can provide the msi installation file? I'd like to try this on an HP Stream 7 which only has 1GB ram.
Apparently AMI is/ will be announcing DuOS 5 at MWC, obviously hoping they have bumped it up to lollipop.
Does anyone has available the keyboard shortcuts list, for zooming and multitouch actions? I can't find it anymore on the official website