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In my opinion, this is the biggest issue currently plaguing the nexus one... If I wasn’t stuck with tmobile/tzones, I would switch to a droid (verizon) or capitivate (att) in an instant because this problem seriously kills the usability of the product. Im not talking about the lack of true multitouch (crossing axis, 3 finger, etc) cause I know that’s a non issues unless you play one of the 5 games in marketplace that require true multitouch. This is different... It is very annoying when you are halfway through typing a sentence and suddenly your “t” registers as a “v” or your “m” registers as “home”, etc.... Im keeping my nexus because there are other factors that make it the better overall phone for me but I really think some of you fanboys need to open your eyes and realize there is (are) huge flaws with out beloved dev phone.
I don't recall seeing anyone post that the nexus was the best phone because it had no issues at all.
when this happens to me I just lock and unlock the phone and the issue is gone.
What I don't understand is that in the title you say it's a deal-breaker and in your post you say you're keeping the phone. So which is it?
Also, you're about five months late in *****ing about this issue.
And rather than come here and calling us all fanboys, maybe you should take a look in the mirror at the idiot who bought a device with an issue that bothers him so much.
Really though, you just made a fool of yourself for everyone to see.
Fanboi out.
this post was directed at the blind fanboys who go into the other threads and act like this is a non issue... it is not.
any phone i buy is going to have some glaring flaw... i think it is impossible to have a perfect phone. i am just identifying this as the nexus ones #1 flaw.
As Old MuckenMire stated, you are BY FAR not the first person to whine about this. It's an old issue, and I'm pretty sure it has to do with the hardware. These "fanbois" have probably accepted it as a non-issue because there is no fix.
BTW, the Galaxy S is available on T-Mo as the Vibrant.
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As Old MuckenMire stated, you are BY FAR not the first person to whine about this. It's an old issue, and I'm pretty sure it has to do with the hardware. These "fanbois" have probably accepted it as a non-issue because there is no fix.
BTW, the Galaxy S is available on T-Mo as the Vibrant.
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i personally think that this issue is MUCH worse than lack of true multitouch, but every week we get a thread about multitouch when i think thats the true non issue
galaxy s does not work with tzones
It's all down to opinion.
Should it have been fixed before even shipping the device? **** yes.
Do I really care? No.
The truth is, it's only as big a deal as you make it.
This issue doesn't happen to me very often, like 3 times a week? All I have to do is just lock and unlock the screen.
Mhmm. Simple. Maybe a little annoying, but nothing too infuriating.
exactly, this happens to me about 3 times a week, sometimes less. to fix it you just lock the screen and the issue is gone. i'm not saying its a non-issue. i'm just saying its not the end of the world and certainly isnt a "deal breaker" like the title of this thread. every phone has their stupid quirks. look at the galaxy s, the gps doesnt barely work. the evo has 30 fps cap (which is a way worse issue than nexus touch), on and on. each device has some issue or another.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fuTCuRkJLI
In my opinion, this is the biggest issue currently plaguing the nexus one... If I wasn’t stuck with tmobile/tzones, I would switch to a droid (verizon) or capitivate (att) in an instant because this problem seriously kills the usability of the product. Im not talking about the lack of true multitouch (crossing axis, 3 finger, etc) cause I know that’s a non issues unless you play one of the 5 games in marketplace that require true multitouch. This is different... It is very annoying when you are halfway through typing a sentence and suddenly your “t” registers as a “v” or your “m” registers as “home”, etc.... Im keeping my nexus because there are other factors that make it the better overall phone for me but I really think some of you fanboys need to open your eyes and realize there is (are) huge flaws with out beloved dev phone.
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Use Swype or Swift Key.
Swype is the worst when you have this issue. No words will work until you lock/unlock the screen.
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Swype is the worst when you have this issue. No words will work until you lock/unlock the screen.
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You know this touch screen issue with the wrong letters being registered, I used to have this problem about 2-3 times a day. Then when froyo came out, it was like twice a month. Now ever since I flashed Cyanogen 6, I have yet to see it. Don't know how or why...I'm just thankful
Very nice
This issue seems to be a thousand times worse if the phone's been getting hot from sitting in the car dock. EVERY time I pull it out of there after it's been there for more than 10 minutes or so, the phone's so hot that it's painful to touch it, and the touch screen's really flaky even after locking and unlocking, unless i let it cool down first.
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This issue seems to be a thousand times worse if the phone's been getting hot from sitting in the car dock. EVERY time I pull it out of there after it's been there for more than 10 minutes or so, the phone's so hot that it's painful to touch it, and the touch screen's really flaky even after locking and unlocking, unless i let it cool down first.
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Uhhhhh your device should NEVER get that hot.
Hmmm, this happened a few times right after I got my N1 in March but I don't think it has happened since.
Sorry, total non-issue for me.
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Hmmm, this happened a few times right after I got my N1 in March but I don't think it has happened since.
Sorry, total non-issue for me.
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this is the point of this thread, maybe we can isolate what causes it... and do HTC/googles QA
norazi said:
this post was directed at the blind fanboys who go into the other threads and act like this is a non issue... it is not.
any phone i buy is going to have some glaring flaw... i think it is impossible to have a perfect phone. i am just identifying this as the nexus ones #1 flaw.
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Be that as it may, I have yet to ever experience this issue. Can you tell me how I can try to recreate it?
Hi, I have looked through the threads but haven't found info, wanted to see what fellow Canadian owners have done in regards to the touchscreen issue. Also wanted to add this thread as to show another variant having issues, Rogers was unaware until I called them and they saw xda threads. They were helpful but unfortunately advised have to wait for LG to send an update. I have tried all of the suggestions for the other variant phones including installing SGS touchscreen booster and unfortunately nothing helped. Have the Rogers variant and was wondering if others have found a solution temporarily. Rogers hasn't received the lg keyboard update yet. Thanks all.
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Hi, I have looked through the threads but haven't found info, wanted to see what fellow Canadian owners have done in regards to the touchscreen issue. Also wanted to add this thread as to show another variant having issues, Rogers was unaware until I called them and they saw xda threads. They were helpful but unfortunately advised have to wait for LG to send an update. I have tried all of the suggestions for the other variant phones including installing SGS touchscreen booster and unfortunately nothing helped. Have the Rogers variant and was wondering if others have found a solution temporarily. Rogers hasn't received the lg keyboard update yet. Thanks all.
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I'm on Rogers, and SGS fixed my issues. All the US carriers are releasing updates as we speak, so I can only assume the Canadian carriers will follow soon. LG is getting returns because of this issue, so you can bet they will be all over a fix.
As for Rogers being unaware of the issue...that's bull. They always say that. Rogers knows.
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Thanks for the reply. Awesome to hear SGS worked for you. Did you do anything else, developer options etc? I will perform another factory reset and try again. Hope I can get it working, pain in the arse having the missing touches. Hopefully rogers does it sooner than later.
OP, there's another post for CDN models here. LINK
I am also experience pretty annoying touch screen issues, and I can't even exchange with WIND since they claim they're out of stock.
Cobthaich said:
Thanks for the reply. Awesome to hear SGS worked for you. Did you do anything else, developer options etc? I will perform another factory reset and try again. Hope I can get it working, pain in the arse having the missing touches. Hopefully rogers does it sooner than later.
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I didn't change anything in my developer options (other than disabling all animations). My Touchscreen issues weren't bad to begin with, and I DO NOT use the stock keyboard. Both of those are most likely why SGS helped me.
Thx for the info guys, I will read through the cdn section and start using swift key with sgs.
I think this whole issue is overrated. Yes, I get the occasional miss but so what? Same thing has happened with every smart phone I've owned. Maybe I didn't tap hard enough, maybe I did. But why does the occasional miss get people's knickers in such knots. It has virtually no effect on the user experience with this great phone.
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I think this whole issue is overrated. Yes, I get the occasional miss but so what? Same thing has happened with every smart phone I've owned. Maybe I didn't tap hard enough, maybe I did. But why does the occasional miss get people's knickers in such knots. It has virtually no effect on the user experience with this great phone.
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I wouldn't say that. You might not be getting the issue as others are. Apparently it's pretty bad with some phones.
If you didn't know, the LG G2 had a huge issue with its touchscreen where the top portion of the screen stopped working, edge to edge, so people couldn't tap on anything in that portion of the screen.
The G3 also had its issues and now G4. LG clearly needs to change their touchscreen/digitizers and use someone else's if they're incapable of reliability.
Anyways, I was coming here to start a new thread and ask if someone tried the version from Wind to see if it has the touchscreen issue before I buy the phone. Thank you to the person who mentioned it !!
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I think this whole issue is overrated. Yes, I get the occasional miss but so what? Same thing has happened with every smart phone I've owned. Maybe I didn't tap hard enough, maybe I did. But why does the occasional miss get people's knickers in such knots. It has virtually no effect on the user experience with this great phone.
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It might not be too apparent for other people, but on mine it's been getting worse. Someone mentioned before that it actually seems issues get worse as the phone gets hotter.
Not sure how much of that is true, but it kills the experience for me.
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I wouldn't say that. You might not be getting the issue as others are. Apparently it's pretty bad with some phones.
If you didn't know, the LG G2 had a huge issue with its touchscreen where the top portion of the screen stopped working, edge to edge, so people couldn't tap on anything in that portion of the screen.
The G3 also had its issues and now G4. LG clearly needs to change their touchscreen/digitizers and use someone else's if they're incapable of reliability.
Anyways, I was coming here to start a new thread and ask if someone tried the version from Wind to see if it has the touchscreen issue before I buy the phone. Thank you to the person who mentioned it !!
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I have WIND one, and the issue is there.
It started off being hardly noticed now and could seem to be my mistake. Now it's much worse and every other swipe registers as a type, taps are missing around 50 - 60%. Can't get it exchanged either since WIND claims their sold out of G4's in the GTA region, with an exception of one return for an S6.
Not entirely sure I will keep my G4 as much as I love it.
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It might not be too apparent for other people, but on mine it's been getting worse. Someone mentioned before that it actually seems issues get worse as the phone gets hotter.
Not sure how much of that is true, but it kills the experience for me.
I have WIND one, and the issue is there.
It started off being hardly noticed now and could seem to be my mistake. Now it's much worse and every other swipe registers as a type, taps are missing around 50 - 60%. Can't get it exchanged either since WIND claims their sold out of G4's in the GTA region, with an exception of one return for an S6.
Not entirely sure I will keep my G4 as much as I love it.
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I think going for the S6 is the best choice. I'm considering the 3 phones, M9, g4, s6. S6 seems to be the least buggy, as usual. M9 has its hardware issues or I'd get it.
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I think going for the S6 is the best choice. I'm considering the 3 phones, M9, g4, s6. S6 seems to be the least buggy, as usual. M9 has its hardware issues or I'd get it.
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Honestly every phone has it's quirks, by no means will your S6 have no chance of issues. You can check out the S6 forum on XDA for more info.
Even with that being said, this LG G4 touch screen issue seems pretty big IMO in comparison to the number of issues on the S6.
Apart from Touchscreen issues, are you guys getting the Wi-fi issue?
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Apart from Touchscreen issues, are you guys getting the Wi-fi issue?
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I am. I find it pretty weak. The phone is useless with using Dnset app.
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Check the S6 forums at Android Central. The S6 is a train wreck of issues compared to the G4.
Overheating, dead gyroscope, lagging, front camera purple dots, horrid battery life....
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Check the S6 forums at Android Central. The S6 is a train wreck of issues compared to the G4.
Overheating, dead gyroscope, lagging, front camera purple dots, horrid battery life....
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To be fair, some of those aren't real issues that ONLY affect the S6.
"Overheating" seems like almost a loose term as people complain about their phones getting hot, but it happens to nearly every android phone.
Lagging "issue" seems to be something people will always complain about with every new phone for some reason, heck there's even post about it here.
"Horrid battery life" isn't really that bad. Yes the G4 is better, but even then people still complain about having a issues with it.
I still think having touch screen issues is the worse, especially since the updates for the US seemed to have fixed it for some while others are still plagued by it.
It leaves me in a state indecisiveness where I love this phone and want to believe it can be fixed via software or I should just cut my losses and exchange to an S6 while I can.
I agree with you. Overheating is going to be an issue for any high end phone going forward, because processors keep getting more powerful (with no active cooling), and phones keep getting thinner. Overheating is also subjective. Most people feel their phone getting warm and assume it's overheating. If it doesn't warn you and start throttling, it's not overheating.
Battery life is totally subjective as no two users are the same. Screen on time is the worst way to measure battery life. Someone surfing the net is going to get a lot more screen on time than someone gaming and watching 4k videos.
LG G4 Touch screen issue is present in Canada as well
I am reposting my reply on this Canadian thread:
To all Canadian LG G4 buyers, the touch screen problem is alive and present in Canada as well. I bought a Wind Mobile LG G4, everything was fine at first but once I plugged it into the charger, it started to to miss touches and being unresponsive (the touches won’t register on the first try) the good test is when you double tap to wake or sleep OR when you go to phone’s setting and touch “about phone” or something else and it misses the first touch. It SHOULD NOT miss any touches, period. I put it next it to my LG G3 and on my LG G3 double tap to wake and sleep worked every time and no missed touches in the phone setting either, when it was plugged into the charger.. but it didn’t work on LG G4 which is unacceptable for $700 phone, once again it only happens when you PLUGGED IT in to the charger, if its disconnected it works fine. I returned that phone
Has anyone else had this issue? I got an OTA last night around midnight, and it has rebooted itself in the middle of use twice today.
Nope
Any idea of what the OTA actually installed?
I have no clue
I'm having the same issue. Phone has rebooted 3 times today.
What version did the OTA bring your phone up to? PB4??
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I had sync.me installed as a way to get profile pics in contacts. I uninstalled it yesterday and it hasn't rebooted since. Seemed like it was over working the phone. Carbonad, do you have sync.me?
My Note 5 and S7 Edge reboot itself at least once a day minimum. My Note 5 reboots more than the S7 Edge, though. Also, my S7 Edge likes to vibrate when there's no notifications, button presses, or even screen touches - along with the screen turning on whenever it wants to. Yet the battery still lasts forever. I also get false touches quite a bit (mentioned in another thread by another user).
Samsung FTW. Still not as many problems as I hear all of my family and friends complaining about with their beloved iPhone. But my Samsung is "far from superior"? Lolz.
All phones matter.
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My Note 5 and S7 Edge reboot itself at least once a day minimum. My Note 5 reboots more than the S7 Edge, though. Also, my S7 Edge likes to vibrate when there's no notifications, button presses, or even screen touches
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I never had a smartphone that would randomly and regularly reboot itself. The fact that both of yours do that seems like an odd coincidence to me. You think maybe it's an app you have installed on both devices that could be the culprit? If my phones were doing that I would have them replaced because that's not normal. BTW, I have the overly sensitive screen issue on my S7 Edge but apparantly it's the nature of the beast. I went to both Best Buy and a Verizon store and played around with their display models. They all seem about the same. So I guess it's something you have to adjust to. I'm still looking forward to a fix in a firmware update though.
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I never had a smartphone that would randomly and regularly reboot itself. The fact that both of yours do that seems like an odd coincidence to me. You think maybe it's an app you have installed on both devices that could be the culprit? If my phones were doing that I would have them replaced because that's not normal. BTW, I have the overly sensitive screen issue on my S7 Edge but apparantly it's the nature of the beast. I went to both Best Buy and a Verizon store and played around with their display models. They all seem about the same. So I guess it's something you have to adjust to. I'm still looking forward to a fix in a firmware update though.
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I'm not totally sure what it would be cause by on the Note 5. It started after the first Marshmallow update. I can't do an OTA because it's no longer on a carrier, so I'm not sure if any updates (if released) would fix it or not. I do use Nova Prime on it for a launcher, and the device has a fair amount of apps and is loaded with widgets on 3 screens (including the home screen).
The S7 Edge doesn't do the reboots anymore since the 2nd Marshmallow update, so that's no longer an issue. After today's update, the phone isn't waking randomly anymore, so the screen is turning on randomly. I also haven't been experiencing the vibrate issue either. The device appears to be a lot more stable than previously, too.
I assume its a mixture of updates through firmware and apps that cause the issues I was experiencing, but it's difficult to say.
I only experience an "overly sensitive screen" when I play Clash of Clans and hold my finger in one spot on the screen - it'll start shaking as if I was moving my finger slightly in different directions. I just checked now and it doesn't do that anymore, so that may have been fixed.
I haven't been able to update the Note 5 yet, nor am I to worried about it at this point, so I can't confirm any changes on that device.
However, the S7 Edge of mine is preforming exceptionally today. Much better than it was even preforming this morning pre-update.
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I haven't been able to update the Note 5 yet, nor am I to worried about it at this point, so I can't confirm any changes on that device.
However, the S7 Edge of mine is preforming exceptionally today. Much better than it was even preforming this morning pre-update.
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That's good that your S7 issue is resolved. Maybe Samsung is aware of some of the screen issues and is working on it with updates. As far as your Note 5, you can probably find the latest firmware on Sammobile.
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That's good that your S7 issue is resolved. Maybe Samsung is aware of some of the screen issues and is working on it with updates. As far as your Note 5, you can probably find the latest firmware on Sammobile.
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I spoke too soon as most of the issues came back again.
Not sure what the problem is, but oh well.
There's been a problem with every phone I've purchased - HTC Hero, HTC Evo3D, Galaxy S4, Note 3, Note 4, Note 5, and S7 Edge.
The difference is that I was able to install custom ROM's on those older devices.
It's always something. That's how it goes.
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I spoke too soon as most of the issues came back again.
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I know that feeling. At the suggestion of a Verizon tech, I ran the Verizon repair assistant program in an attempt to fix my over sensitive touch screen issue. When I ran the program my phone was working normal without the screen sensitivity problem. I blabbed it on the forums I found a fix. The following day was screen was back to acting up. I would have returned the phone if I knew the fix was only temporary. By waiting that one more day I was one day past my 14 day return window. I'm getting use to the way it is. I have to be overly cautious to prevent inadvertently opening apps and links.
If someone can show me a forum about an Android device where there is no one talking about their device lags or sucks for a variety of issues, I would like to know. There are always going to people with issues. Some may be user induced, some a design flaw and others just a defective unit.
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I know that feeling. At the suggestion of a Verizon tech, I ran the Verizon repair assistant program in an attempt to fix my over sensitive touch screen issue. When I ran the program my phone was working normal without the screen sensitivity problem. I blabbed it on the forums I found a fix. The following day was screen was back to acting up. I would have returned the phone if I knew the fix was only temporary. By waiting that one more day I was one day past my 14 day return window. I'm getting use to the way it is. I have to be overly cautious to prevent inadvertently opening apps and links.
If someone can show me a forum about an Android device where there is no one talking about their device lags or sucks for a variety of issues, I would like to know. There are always going to people with issues. Some may be user induced, some a design flaw and others just a defective unit.
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Here's what is causing the random screen-on:
http://androidforums.com/threads/samsung-s7-screen-keeps-turning-on-randomly.1014655/page-2
Turns out to be the Verizon Message+ App.
After disabling that app, I no longer have that issue.
The screen, however, is still pretty... (sensitive?). There are times where the phone will act as if I tapped the screen, but I never even touched it; resulting in a clicked link, webpage moving, etc... A bit irritating, but isn't causing too much of a hassle.
In conclusion, every phone will always have a defect. Lol.
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My notification light no longer works at all. Lol. I give up.
I've been reading up about the Z5C because it's the only small yet powerful android phone currently on the market. Of course I always check XDA for root/rom/support experiences, and here I mostly see negative experiences. So many people are saying this is their last Xperia or that if the new Android M doesn't fix it's issues then they're going to switch to different phone, etc. This disheartens me greatly because I see no other viable option for a new sub-5 inch phone. I currently have a 1st gen Moto X - XT1053 Dev Edition. I love the phone and everything about it, but it's getting to be a bit slow with 2013 hardware running 2016 apps, and I think I will need an upgrade by 2017. I would buy another Motorola, but Lenovo has decided that Motorola should only make shovel sized phones (which goes against everything in Motorola's original vision.)
So where does that leave us who don't like gargantuan phones but still want a quality device? Do I wait and see if fixes come for the Z5C memory leak, stuttering, and its other issues? A few people report that their phone doesn't have these issues, do I gamble and hope I get a good one like that? Is there some other small form Andriod smartphone out there that I should consider? Or do I give up and get a 5+ inch device? It seems the Samsung G6 or G7 would be the next smallest option.
I would love to hear everyone's thoughts and comments on this.
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I've been reading up about the Z5C because it's the only small yet powerful android phone currently on the market. Of course I always check XDA for root/rom/support experiences, and here I mostly see negative experiences. So many people are saying this is their last Xperia or that if the new Android M doesn't fix it's issues then they're going to switch to different phone, etc. This disheartens me greatly because I see no other viable option for a new sub-5 inch phone. I currently have a 1st gen Moto X - XT1053 Dev Edition. I love the phone and everything about it, but it's getting to be a bit slow with 2013 hardware running 2016 apps, and I think I will need an upgrade by 2017. I would buy another Motorola, but Lenovo has decided that Motorola should only make shovel sized phones (which goes against everything in Motorola's original vision.)
So where does that leave us who don't like gargantuan phones but still want a quality device? Do I wait and see if fixes come for the Z5C memory leak, stuttering, and its other issues? A few people report that their phone doesn't have these issues, do I gamble and hope I get a good one like that? Is there some other small form Andriod smartphone out there that I should consider? Or do I give up and get a 5+ inch device? It seems the Samsung G6 or G7 would be the next smallest option.
I would love to hear everyone's thoughts and comments on this.
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You ever consider the Z3 Compact? Or you picky on year and specs?
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You ever consider the Z3 Compact? Or you picky on year and specs?
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I'm picky on specs... Though I did consider it today and I watched several Z3C vs Z5C videos. I like it except that it's only one year newer/faster than my current phone, and it's only available in 16GB. My Moto X, being the Dev Edition, is a 32GB and it's usually full. the Z3C has an SD card slot, but not everything can go on an SD. If I was going to go with a Snapdragon 801 phone from 2014 I'd probably choose the Moto X 2nd gen and give a little on size to retain the seriously awesome Moto Display capability.
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I'm picky on specs... Though I did consider it today and I watched several Z3C vs Z5C videos. I like it except that it's only one year newer/faster than my current phone, and it's only available in 16GB. My Moto X, being the Dev Edition, is a 32GB and it's usually full. the Z3C has an SD card slot, but not everything can go on an SD. If I was going to go with a Snapdragon 801 phone from 2014 I'd probably choose the Moto X 2nd gen and give a little on size to retain the seriously awesome Moto Display capability.
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Well theres really isn't anything bad about the Z5 compact.....tho ppl complain about it being overheat and camera being not good, if those things is not an issue to you, then yea the z5 compact is a great phone, i say go for it, been having updates since it just had a update last two days ago
I know where you're coming from. My LG G2 has been getting really slow so I've been wanting a new phone,, but I really don't want a phablet. So I got the z5 compact (international model). It's ok. It isn't everything I hoped. The idle battery life sucks (it loses 1% per hour where as my g2 would only lose 1% every 8 hours. That makes it pretty much a 1 day phone, not 2 for most people I would imagine. And the fingerprint scanner seems to be a piece of garbage. It doesn't work 70% of the time. Other than that the phone is good. It's fast, the screen can get very bright. Obviously waterproof. So yeah, not the battery life king that the z3 compact used to be, and the fingerprint scanner might as well not exist. I bought a nexus 6p - I know I know, it's a phablet and I said I didn't want one - just to test ( I will most likely return it before the 15 day return policy) but I can't tell you how nice it is to have a fingerprint scanner that works 100% of the time and is accessible with both hands. I'm hoping the update that is just now rolling out fixes the fingerprint scanner if possible. So those are my thoughts.
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Well theres really isn't anything bad about the Z5 compact.....tho ppl complain about it being overheat and camera being not good, if those things is not an issue to you, then yea the z5 compact is a great phone, i say go for it, been having updates since it just had a update last two days ago
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Heat isn't an issue because I don't do anything intensive for long periods of time, like gaming. The camera I don't know about. My Moto X camera is ok, my Galaxy S3 camera was good, but that's all I've got to compare to. So maybe if I never had a better one I won't notice.
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I know where you're coming from. My LG G2 has been getting really slow so I've been wanting a new phone,, but I really don't want a phablet. So I got the z5 compact (international model). It's ok. It isn't everything I hoped. The idle battery life sucks (it loses 1% per hour where as my g2 would only lose 1% every 8 hours. That makes it pretty much a 1 day phone, not 2 for most people I would imagine. And the fingerprint scanner seems to be a piece of garbage. It doesn't work 70% of the time. Other than that the phone is good. It's fast, the screen can get very bright. Obviously waterproof. So yeah, not the battery life king that the z3 compact used to be, and the fingerprint scanner might as well not exist. I bought a nexus 6p - I know I know, it's a phablet and I said I didn't want one - just to test ( I will most likely return it before the 15 day return policy) but I can't tell you how nice it is to have a fingerprint scanner that works 100% of the time and is accessible with both hands. I'm hoping the update that is just now rolling out fixes the fingerprint scanner if possible. So those are my thoughts.
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I also tried out a phablet, the Asus Zenfone 2. Really awesome phone, but awesomely huge as well. 64GB, 4GB ram, 4 Intel Atom cores, dual sim, SD slot, fully unlockable. I figured if I was going to go big, why not get crazy with specs too. While it performed great and had every option available, it was just too big. I felt like I was pulling out a ham sandwich to make a phone call. I could barely reach the power button one-handed, never mind navigate it one-handed. But my friend was enamored with it, so I sold it to him, and I'm on the hunt again.
The battery life could be an issue. Usually I end up with around 30% left on my Moto, but sometimes I'll have to use it a lot more than normal and hit single digits by the end of the day. I've never had it die on me though. I've heard mixed reviews about the fingerprint scanner ranging from "ok", to "crap." But I don't have one now, so I won't miss it if I don't use it, right? What I'll miss is the Moto Display where it semi-wakes when you pick it up or take it out of your pocket or get a notification. No other phones wake/unlock feature can hold a candle to that.
The thing that concerns me most is the RAM leak that people talk about and the stuttering. A lot of people complain that they have to restart their phone from once a day to once every 3-4 days to restore it's speed. Otherwise it starts to choke even with just one app open. Something about app caching or precaching or whatever, I can't remember. That would be a HUGE problem for me. I want a phone that's as fast today as it was a week ago when I turned it on. Even Windows doesn't have that problem anymore. And stuttering when swiping and/or moving from app to app. That would feel gheto, like I've got a $29 phone from Walmart. If I'm going to pay several hundred bucks for a phone, it needs to move like a several hundred dollar phone. My Moto is still smooth, even when it's loading or navigating a heavy app. It's just a little pokey about it sometimes.
I really appreciate your input guys. It helps substantially because no one I know AFK knows squat about phones.
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Heat isn't an issue because I don't do anything intensive for long periods of time, like gaming. The camera I don't know about. My Moto X camera is ok, my Galaxy S3 camera was good, but that's all I've got to compare to. So maybe if I never had a better one I won't notice.
I also tried out a phablet, the Asus Zenfone 2. Really awesome phone, but awesomely huge as well. 64GB, 4GB ram, 4 Intel Atom cores, dual sim, SD slot, fully unlockable. I figured if I was going to go big, why not get crazy with specs too. While it performed great and had every option available, it was just too big. I felt like I was pulling out a ham sandwich to make a phone call. I could barely reach the power button one-handed, never mind navigate it one-handed. But my friend was enamored with it, so I sold it to him, and I'm on the hunt again.
The battery life could be an issue. Usually I end up with around 30% left on my Moto, but sometimes I'll have to use it a lot more than normal and hit single digits by the end of the day. I've never had it die on me though. I've heard mixed reviews about the fingerprint scanner ranging from "ok", to "crap." But I don't have one now, so I won't miss it if I don't use it, right? What I'll miss is the Moto Display where it semi-wakes when you pick it up or take it out of your pocket or get a notification. No other phones wake/unlock feature can hold a candle to that.
The thing that concerns me most is the RAM leak that people talk about and the stuttering. A lot of people complain that they have to restart their phone from once a day to once every 3-4 days to restore it's speed. Otherwise it starts to choke even with just one app open. Something about app caching or precaching or whatever, I can't remember. That would be a HUGE problem for me. I want a phone that's as fast today as it was a week ago when I turned it on. Even Windows doesn't have that problem anymore. And stuttering when swiping and/or moving from app to app. That would feel gheto, like I've got a $29 phone from Walmart. If I'm going to pay several hundred bucks for a phone, it needs to move like a several hundred dollar phone. My Moto is still smooth, even when it's loading or navigating a heavy app. It's just a little pokey about it sometimes.
I really appreciate your input guys. It helps substantially because no one I know AFK knows squat about phones.
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You just need to realize that no phone is perfect....all phones has its pros and cons, kinda wish there was more small phones but nowadays its always big phones big phones big phones which is very annoying, but hey welcome to history of technology, it keeps improving every year
Most people come to these forums to fix problems or discuss issues so there won't be a lot of positive threads. But then again there's not much nice to say about the z5c lol if you can live with side charging go with the z3c. The xperia line has a lot of users that are too scared to root so the development is really slim. The z3c is at a more of a mature state than the z5c so it's your best bet.
I guess I just don't understand where did this problem of the phone being slow comes from. Because if there's anything positive that I can say about the Z5 compact that is that it is super fast and I am currently using a Nexus 6p which arguably is the fastest Android experience you can get and the Z5 compact doesn't feel any slower to me. I guess the camera is probably slower because I have noticed it take a half second longer to open than I would expect it and the photos take about a second to 2 seconds to fully load but really other than that the phone is blazing fast in my opinion.
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Most people come to these forums to fix problems or discuss issues so there won't be a lot of positive threads. But then again there's not much nice to say about the z5c lol if you can live with side charging go with the z3c. The xperia line has a lot of users that are too scared to root so the development is really slim. The z3c is at a more of a mature state than the z5c so it's your best bet.
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I don't mind the side charge, but with only 16GB, it's a step down from what I have now in terms of storage. It's also 2 years old and I'm looking for something a little newer. If you go to other forums, there are a larger percentage of people talking about how they love their phone in spite of some issue they created or something they're trying to achieve or fix. I've seen users on the Moto X forum state that they'll give up their phone when someone pries it from their cold dead hands. Others have wept when their phone was irreparably damaged. I've seen the same thing said about the LG G2. You are quite correct about older phones being in a more mature state though. The S6/S7 don't have a Cyanogen build available yet, and neither does the Z5C. But the Z3C does.
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I guess I just don't understand where did this problem of the phone being slow comes from. Because if there's anything positive that I can say about the Z5 compact that is that it is super fast and I am currently using a Nexus 6p which arguably is the fastest Android experience you can get and the Z5 compact doesn't feel any slower to me. I guess the camera is probably slower because I have noticed it take a half second longer to open than I would expect it and the photos take about a second to 2 seconds to fully load but really other than that the phone is blazing fast in my opinion.
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It's not that the Z5C is slow all together, the complaints I've been reading are that it slows down after a few days of use due to an issue with the RAM not clearing properly. Everyone says a restart fixes/clears the issue till it builds up again. Sorta like Windows 98. If you don't restart your Z5C for a week, does it still feel just as fast as your Nexus?
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It's not that the Z5C is slow all together, the complaints I've been reading are that it slows down after a few days of use due to an issue with the RAM not clearing properly. Everyone says a restart fixes/clears the issue till it builds up again. Sorta like Windows 98. If you don't restart your Z5C for a week, does it still feel just as fast as your Nexus?
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I can't say that mine doesn't slow down somewhat after a week or so, but I've never had it happen to the point it is unusable. I've gone weeks without a restart with no real problems. I've noticed that it does slow down some, but nothing that I can't live with. And even with a slowdown, are you so in need of being connected 24/7 that you can't take the a minute periodically to reboot?
I've read some varying reports that the 6.0.1 update improves the memory management, and at least helps this issue. However, I haven't had a chance to use flashtool to update yet, so I can't say for sure.
The Z5 Compact (mine at least) does have a bit of the 810 overheating problem. The only time it impacted anything for me, I had been setting in a hot car and then tried to use the camera. I got the 'overheating... camera will close' message. I had that happen to me a few times on the Z3 compact the didn't have the Snapdragon 810 SOC.
Battery life isn't awesome, but then again I'm not really a power user. Little gaming, little social media checking, etc... I work in a location with no signal at all for the phone. It spends almost all of the day trying to connect. I generally go out to the car at lunch for a little while, but that is about all the time it is connected during the day. I don't think it has ever actually died on me doing this. If it has, it was maybe once.
When I'm somewhere that has signal all day, I've never had an issue unless I'm using navigation a lot, or something similar.
I've tried a few other phones over the last few years, and even if they have worked well they are just too freaking big. I've stuck with the Xperia compacts because they are the only <5" phone that offers true flagship specs.
Just my two cents. You're mileage may vary. If you get it and hate it, please don't blame me.
Look if you're happy, you're not gonna bother posting about it. That's human nature. There are a lot of happy users like me who don't have anything to complain about. People will only open a thread or comment if they run into a problem. Anyway, this phone has been fantastic for me since 6.0 update. And now after the 6.0.1 update, the camera starts almost instantly. So I can finally say that this was a worthwhile investment from my part.
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i have z5c 3 months now, using MM and don't have any problems, using my phone for photos, navigation and regular calls and so on, last night i was travel with car, navigation was on 3,5 hours ( connected on charger ), phone was hot but didn't FC navigation and did't have any problems, but when i took it in my hands it was hot, checked temp and it was 42 C, so nothing to wory about, battery life depends how you use it, i can make whole day and before bed time i have over 50% left, but if i use wifi while in bed that 50% will be gone in 2 hours, i never tried on this phone but on my work phone( only calls and sms, data turned off) htc 320 battery last over 15 days in standby without problems, back on topic, camera is great for me, clear nice colors and 4k video recording is great, really can't find anything bed in this phone, if you wanna be sure battery would last whole day charge it over night
The z5c with MM is a very fast and capable multitasker.
The only negative is the camera really isn't a comparison to its competitors.
Sony sent the z5c out with an utterly p!ss poor Lollipop firmware. You can trust those review you've read at that point the z5c "was" an utter disgrace and let a complete let down.
However since MM the device is as you'd have expected it to be. It's a performer and a half.
Again it's only the sub par camera quality that negates away from an almost legendary device.
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I don't mind the side charge, but with only 16GB, it's a step down from what I have now in terms of storage. It's also 2 years old and I'm looking for something a little newer. If you go to other forums, there are a larger percentage of people talking about how they love their phone in spite of some issue they created or something they're trying to achieve or fix. I've seen users on the Moto X forum state that they'll give up their phone when someone pries it from their cold dead hands. Others have wept when their phone was irreparably damaged. I've seen the same thing said about the LG G2. You are quite correct about older phones being in a more mature state though. The S6/S7 don't have a Cyanogen build available yet, and neither does the Z5C. But the Z3C does.
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Ive never come close to running out of 16gb on internal storage on any phone ive ever had and I've got two grand theft auto installed. I put everything on a 200gb sd, I can't stand a phone without SD slots lol
I agree with other forums showing more love, this is the third Sony phone I've tried over the years and the third one that I have very little nice things to say about it. But the z5c forums have only just started to take off since the US release, it was real real dead before that.
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I don't mind the side charge, but with only 16GB, it's a step down from what I have now in terms of storage. It's also 2 years old and I'm looking for something a little newer. If you go to other forums, there are a larger percentage of people talking about how they love their phone in spite of some issue they created or something they're trying to achieve or fix. I've seen users on the Moto X forum state that they'll give up their phone when someone pries it from their cold dead hands. Others have wept when their phone was irreparably damaged. I've seen the same thing said about the LG G2. You are quite correct about older phones being in a more mature state though. The S6/S7 don't have a Cyanogen build available yet, and neither does the Z5C. But the Z3C does.
It's not that the Z5C is slow all together, the complaints I've been reading are that it slows down after a few days of use due to an issue with the RAM not clearing properly. Everyone says a restart fixes/clears the issue till it builds up again. Sorta like Windows 98. If you don't restart your Z5C for a week, does it still feel just as fast as your Nexus?
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Yeah in my opinion the phone is still as fast and I do not have to reboot every week or whatever. I would still say that it remains as fast and doesn't seem to slow down at all in my opinion. My sister also has the Z5 Compact and she also does not notice any slowdowns of any sort and doesn't have to reboot regularly and the only does it if necessary while changing SIM cards or something.
So again my main gripes with this phone are the idle battery life which I can live with even though it's really annoying, but the fingerprint scanner is just not good in my opinion. Especially after using a nice one that works every time and seamlessly and it's just so effortless, it's really hard to use this when it screws up more than half the time it feels like. However my sister's Z5 compact fingerprint scanner seems to be a little bit better, I don't understand why. The difference only is that she has the black model and I have the white one and I know that there was an issue with the screen not responding to touch properly when the phones first came out just for the white model so maybe there's a difference in the hardware of the fingerprint scanner as well.
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I've been reading up about the Z5C because it's the only small yet powerful android phone currently on the market. Of course I always check XDA for root/rom/support experiences, and here I mostly see negative experiences. So many people are saying this is their last Xperia or that if the new Android M doesn't fix it's issues then they're going to switch to different phone, etc. This disheartens me greatly because I see no other viable option for a new sub-5 inch phone. I currently have a 1st gen Moto X - XT1053 Dev Edition. I love the phone and everything about it, but it's getting to be a bit slow with 2013 hardware running 2016 apps, and I think I will need an upgrade by 2017. I would buy another Motorola, but Lenovo has decided that Motorola should only make shovel sized phones (which goes against everything in Motorola's original vision.)
So where does that leave us who don't like gargantuan phones but still want a quality device? Do I wait and see if fixes come for the Z5C memory leak, stuttering, and its other issues? A few people report that their phone doesn't have these issues, do I gamble and hope I get a good one like that? Is there some other small form Andriod smartphone out there that I should consider? Or do I give up and get a 5+ inch device? It seems the Samsung G6 or G7 would be the next smallest option.
I would love to hear everyone's thoughts and comments on this.
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Bear in mind that people who don't have problems have little reason to post on forums.
I went from a XT1058 to a discounted Nexus 5 to a Z5C and have been mostly happy.
The only issues I've had:
- Phone app crashes after a call ends when using Android Auto
- Camera app is a little slow to launch
- No "active display" (i.e. google's equivalent of moto display)
- Absolutely needs a case as it's too slippery to use bare (unlike the Moto X)
- Phone gets really warm after using it with Android Auto
Really after Mm update z5c is blazing fast, no complains what so ever when it comes to performance. Sometimes it gets a bit hot, but nothing to be concerned about. And I don't know why everyone complaints about fingereader, it works 95 proc of time for me. I register same finger three times. I don't really use camera that much, but it opens super fast for me, but even I can tell quality is not great. At least auto mode.
My experience with this device has been mostly a pleasant one. One of the previous poster mentioned that no device is perfect and this one is no different. You will always find something that you feel the manufacturer didn't get right. The gripes I have with this device:
- Slow camera app. (Also, I can't find a burst mode...is there one?)
- Wi-Fi connection when the phone is sleeping (this is sometime-y)
- Some of the Sony apps are useless
The positives:
- Size size size
- Fingerprint scanner is fast (not iPhone fast, but fast)
- Battery life is nice. I've gotten 2 1/2 days (mostly idle time. On screen was about 3hrs)
- Playing hi-res music (subjective...well, I guess all of this is subjective)
- The 820 is a great piece of silicone (it would be extraordinary if not for the occasional heat)
- SD card slot (and the ability to use it to back up your settings)
- The diagnostic tool in the "About Phone" section
- Front facing speakers. Not going to blow your mind, but they're facing you..not away.
I know there are more that I'm missing but the point is that it's been positive. I'm not a big fan of MM, but that is a different story.
Scribe'd on my everlasting Z5C
I dont recomend the z5c at all, i use it for working, and the phone really struggles with facebook pages, youtube, Chrome, facebook, Messenger and WhatsApp all the time receiving notifications and messeges.
The phone overheats to the point that everything lags like a 2008 Android phone.
When i play real Racing 3, i always have couple of Ice cube close to me, for let my phone cools down to avoid lag while playing.
Dont buy it, go for a nexus or Samsung, and sacrifice the size thing, and remember ALWAYS AN ALUMINUM PHONE WILL HAVE LESS HEAT ISSUES THAN A GLASS P PHONE, BECAUSE OF HEAT DISCIPATION.
Just curious how everyone is enjoying their Moto X Pure Editions since they've been out for a little over a year now. I've left mine stock the entire time I've had it which is something new for me. As far as the phone itself is concerned I really like it. Love the screen, the size, shape, etc. However, really looking to get something else or rooting as I've had a ton of software issues. Apps not responding the way they should or crashing repeatedly . This is the first phone I've had that's actually acted this way so kind of turned off by it.
Stock here, 11 months of use, 2 updates (5 to 6.0 and the last security update) never a issue.
Just one time, the screen shows a rare horizontal lines, 1 reboot and back to normal.
The heat you ask? Yes, in chrome and YouTube, the heat is an "add on" not specified in the manual...
Great phone, but my next one is a OnePlus 3, not a Lenovorola
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Screen cracked on first one and had to play endless games with the repair department, including reporting fraud on my credit card. Both speaker grills are working on their second time falling out. Screen and glass coating are better than average on the replacement. I like the LTE bands, high res screen, and the ability to use a big microSD card. The lack of software support is the worst I've seen of an OEM phone. I had to switch to CM13 but there's nobody there who can completely fix the drivers - VoLTE breakup, proximity sensor bugs, speaker fade-out bug, no WiFi calling, poor low light camera performance, etc. I don't see myself trusting Lenovo again for many years to come.
Stock Style
Kept it still in stock. No major issues. Been using the phone with the stock Moto Screen cover plastic still in place (all moto phone have nice plastic screen guard which I never peel. Use it heavily for 3-4 days post unboxing and remove the logo, which has now dried due to screen heat, with a coin). Waiting with finger crossed for Andorid 7.
Camera app and camera as hardware was real disappointment. unlike G4 plus camera app, this phone camera app is very basic in nature. Also the camera is not comparable with other phone's of this budget. Otherwise this was an awesome deal.
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Stock here, 11 months of use, 2 updates (5 to 6.0 and the last security update) never a issue.
Just one time, the screen shows a rare horizontal lines, 1 reboot and back to normal.
The heat you ask? Yes, in chrome and YouTube, the heat is an "add on" not specified in the manual...
Great phone, but my next one is a OnePlus 3, not a Lenovorola
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Much the same experience for me. Very happy with the phone for the price (I paid UK £300 in December 2015). Still amazed at the sound quality from the speakers. Fast charging too.
I also had the horizontal lines problem about a month ago - thought the phone had died but a reboot solved it. Has only happened once.
Issues ? For me :
would like wireless charging
wish Lenovo were better with updates
maybe a bit too big - but that's my problem , not the phone's - I wanted a big display.
Bought it approx. 2 months ago (15th July, 2016) and really enjoying it all over except the display, my display is bit warmish when compared to other phone and also has a slight bleeding in left corner. I wish it had AMOLED display as the previous series. Camera gives really good pics so happy with it. Would like to know if anyone else has the same display concern as mine.
Stock rooted EU Style at 6.0.1 - so far there are no issues with the phone
Picked it up on the Prime Day sale.
It does the job and is better than my previous phone, a Nexus 4.
Minor gripes. If it gets the update to Nougat I'll be happy with what I paid for it.
It will soon be my girlfriends phone and I'm getting an iPhone 7 or Pixel X. That iPhone is just a screamer. Fast, and good looking. Would be my first Apple product.
Used to like the phone, now I'm extremely indifferent about it. I haven't had any hardware problems, but the lack of software support is extremely disappointing. The camera takes OK pictures, the battery rarely provides more than 2.5 hours SOT, and from what I can tell every custom ROM for this phone blows chunks (I've tried all the popular ones, but the CM base sucks). I've had sporadic issues with cell service, which I believe are software related, and to top it off, my phone somehow nuked itself while I was on vacation in June (I was able to get it back but I lost a bunch of stuff and had to re-setup my phone while on vacation)
I was at Disney world all day, battery died about an hour before I left the park. I got in the car, plugged it into the car charger, and while it was coming up to the battery screen it went haywire and rebooted. Then the charging screen came up and I shrugged it off. About 30 minutes later I tried to turn it back on, and it just bootlooped endlessly. So I had to pull out my laptop, use the slow hotel wifi and download the firmware, then use fastboot to re-flash everything. Luckily I use Google photos to back up pics, so I didn't lose any of the vacation photos.
For the first time in years I'm considering an iPhone. Never had to deal with this kind of crap with my old iPhone 5.
Love my Style, changed 2 screens on it, been stock since I purchased it brand new, not through choice, can't root this phone at all, I've tried every combination possible but the remote server times out requesting the token I'd so I've given up any hope of rooting it.
Apart from that the phone has been flawless, the odd heating up with certain apps which I can put up with.
Not really impressed with the way Moto/Lenovo have treated this supposed flagship in terms of updates and still no solid word from the company if our device will get nougat. It probably will get it but I would have bought a pixel xl by then.
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No major issues really (bar the obvious update void). Still love the fact that the phone is smaller than my friend's iphone 6 plus, yet the screen is larger.
First phone I've ever owned that still does not have a single scratch on the screen even though it has been naked since day one, got the phone October 17th. In fact there are very few marks on the phone overall and I've dropped it from knee height onto the road a couple of times.
I often think about wanting a new phone (only because I have G.A.S (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) but then I realise that anything I get won't really do anything that this one doesn't already do.
Waiting patiently for Nougat!
I bought the Style with extreme enthusiasm since it ran "stock" android and had an SDcard slot. My initial impressions were hopeful... it was a little laggy but other than that, it was okay, and the speakers, OH GOD the speakers. But after a month or two of using it and unlocking the bootloader, it was obvious that there were some serious issues with the phone. Lenovo/Motorola obviously didn't know what they were doing when they made the stock ROM for the device. It was always laggy for me and there were other issues as well. After tons of attempts to find an AOSP or stock rom that fixed these issues... i gave up. I just accepted that TruPureX was the best i was going to get. It made me miss my LG G2 and HTC M8. Anyways after a little under a year i did a lot of thinking and eventually made the decision that i was tired of feeling the need to flash custom firmwares, bootloaders, recoveries, etc. just to get my phone to function in the manner that I feel it should. I ended up buying a (very expensive) iPhone 6S Plus. I understand that people will most likely bash this decision and i respect your views, so respect mine. I still believe android as an OS is superior, but the OEMs just can't properly implement it into their devices in the way that Apple can. I don't regret my decision and now i have amazing battery life and everything "just works". Which isn't something i've been able to say about an android phone. I'm not advising anyone to do what i did, i respect all technology as well as your views, i'm just sharing my experience. Owning this phone annoyed my so much i switched sides (at least for a while).
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I bought the Style with extreme enthusiasm since it ran "stock" android and had an SDcard slot. My initial impressions were hopeful... it was a little laggy but other than that, it was okay, and the speakers, OH GOD the speakers. But after a month or two of using it and unlocking the bootloader, it was obvious that there were some serious issues with the phone. Lenovo/Motorola obviously didn't know what they were doing when they made the stock ROM for the device. It was always laggy for me and there were other issues as well. After tons of attempts to find an AOSP or stock rom that fixed these issues... i gave up. I just accepted that TruPureX was the best i was going to get. It made me miss my LG G2 and HTC M8. Anyways after a little under a year i did a lot of thinking and eventually made the decision that i was tired of feeling the need to flash custom firmwares, bootloaders, recoveries, etc. just to get my phone to function in the manner that I feel it should. I ended up buying a (very expensive) iPhone 6S Plus. I understand that people will most likely bash this decision and i respect your views, so respect mine. I still believe android as an OS is superior, but the OEMs just can't properly implement it into their devices in the way that Apple can. I don't regret my decision and now i have amazing battery life and everything "just works". Which isn't something i've been able to say about an android phone. I'm not advising anyone to do what i did, i respect all technology as well as your views, i'm just sharing my experience. Owning this phone annoyed my so much i switched sides (at least for a while).
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Used to like the phone, now I'm extremely indifferent about it. I haven't had any hardware problems, but the lack of software support is extremely disappointing. The camera takes OK pictures, the battery rarely provides more than 2.5 hours SOT, and from what I can tell every custom ROM for this phone blows chunks (I've tried all the popular ones, but the CM base sucks). I've had sporadic issues with cell service, which I believe are software related, and to top it off, my phone somehow nuked itself while I was on vacation in June (I was able to get it back but I lost a bunch of stuff and had to re-setup my phone while on vacation)
I was at Disney world all day, battery died about an hour before I left the park. I got in the car, plugged it into the car charger, and while it was coming up to the battery screen it went haywire and rebooted. Then the charging screen came up and I shrugged it off. About 30 minutes later I tried to turn it back on, and it just bootlooped endlessly. So I had to pull out my laptop, use the slow hotel wifi and download the firmware, then use fastboot to re-flash everything. Luckily I use Google photos to back up pics, so I didn't lose any of the vacation photos.
For the first time in years I'm considering an iPhone. Never had to deal with this kind of crap with my old iPhone 5.
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Sounds like we have similar experiences. I've never owned an Iphone but have had multiple Ipods and Ipads. I think I've grown out of the flashing game myself. I look at all the roms available for the Pure and I'm just not impressed at all. I've come from a long line of Android devices that have all had excellent development and this one has been a bust. I have also been thinking about going with an Iphone but I'm pretty terrified of getting away from the Android environment lol. I'm just to a point in my life where I want my phone to function flawlessly the majority of the time. I wasn't impressed at all with my Galaxy S5 so that's kind of turned me away from Samsung in general. I really liked my HTC devices so I may give them another look in the near future if I don't end up giving Apple the go ahead.
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Sounds like we have similar experiences. I've never owned an Iphone but have had multiple Ipods and Ipads. I think I've grown out of the flashing game myself. I look at all the roms available for the Pure and I'm just not impressed at all. I've come from a long line of Android devices that have all had excellent development and this one has been a bust. I have also been thinking about going with an Iphone but I'm pretty terrified of getting away from the Android environment lol. I'm just to a point in my life where I want my phone to function flawlessly the majority of the time. I wasn't impressed at all with my Galaxy S5 so that's kind of turned me away from Samsung in general. I really liked my HTC devices so I may give them another look in the near future if I don't end up giving Apple the go ahead.
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Yes our experiences are indeed very similar. The phone i was most impressed with was my HTC M8. The battery life that it gave with the "small" battery was amazing at that time, but my 6S+ has a similar battery, bigger screen and more powerful processor and it somehow manages to demolish the M8s battery life. I find it extremely impressive. I'm a college student and i just decided i didn't have the time to keep flashing things, etc. The only thing that i hate about iOS is the fact that you have no access to the file system. I may jailbreak and fix some things but for now i'm trying it unmodified. At least on ios you're guaranteed good software support for a good while.
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Doktaphex said:
I often think about wanting a new phone (only because I have G.A.S (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) but then I realise that anything I get won't really do anything that this one doesn't already do.
Waiting patiently for Nougat!
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This. Exactly this.
A couple of white spots on my LCD. Not a huge deal.
LCD cracked- without cracking the glass, which is a first for me.
It took a ton of work to get the battery where I needed it.
Development is dildos. ONE (brilliant) stock rom, and its developer left. All the AOSP roms have issues.
I can't believe with only 3 unlocked phones on Verizon, we don't have an abundant choice of roms. Ridiculous.
Had mine since Christmas eve. I replaced the battery thinking it was dying, turns out I just use a lot of battery-consuming apps. Aside from that, hardware has been top-knotch. No issues with software (still running Lolipop), but I rooted the day I got it and disabled updates because I heard the MM update was having tons of issues and causing pops in the speakers and battery drains, etc. and never got around to going MM.
Convinced 2 friends to get Moto X pures as well, and they both love it.
I've had the Pure since November 2015: rooted and spent most of the time on stock. Right now, I'm running Dirty Unicorns 10.6 official, which has the September 2016 update. My overall impression is: 5.5 out of 10 (10 being the best). It's a decent, middle-of-the-road phone.
PROS
Unlocked (no carrier BS)
Bright screen
Two speakers with decent sound
CDMA and GSM antennas
Decent call quality
Motomaker configured to taste
CONS
So-so battery life. My LG G3 lasted about 48 hours after full charge. My MXP lasts about 18 hours.
So-so camera. Forget about low light pictures. (Missing my LG G3 camera...)
Mediocre level of enthusiasm about the phone, i.e., it took a long time to get decent cases/screen protectors, ROM development is OK but there are more devs for other phones
Lack of Android updates from Motorola. (I prefer stock due to stability and battery life.)
Heavier than a comparable Samsung Galaxy phone for it's size.
No "wow" feature to the phone: everything is just meh.
why is it nobody mentioned about its ram.. ram management on mm is so poor. i get 600 to 800 sometimes 500 ram free with no other apps installed. pure stock no root.vthats why its so laggy at times... bought it last month for $260 with 32gb on best buy.. i thought it was a deal but cant help notice the lag sometimes. i have a lg g pro 2 3 gb ram with snapdragon 800 on 2014 model... i get 1500 free ram so why is moto x pure on 2015 model only gets 600 to 800 free ram with 3gb phone. will motorola lenovo can still fix this great phone ?
After loving my Moto X and Moto X 2014, I gave the Moto X 2015 a try. On stock It lags a good amount, battery life is below average, sound is loud but quality is bad, also when I receive notifications the sound lags in the middle of it, and the phone ran extremely hot just using social apps or playing light games.
CM13 was the only rom to bring this phone back to life for me. I underclocked the cpu and gpu because of heat and battery power increased dramatically. Notification sounds sound normal and even when underclocked, the phone is still snappy on CM13.
My gf have a Samsung Galaxy s6 with apps I use plus more and her phone didn't nearly get as hot as mines with also better battery life than I was on stock.