Hi, I have looked through the threads but haven't found info, wanted to see what fellow Canadian owners have done in regards to the touchscreen issue. Also wanted to add this thread as to show another variant having issues, Rogers was unaware until I called them and they saw xda threads. They were helpful but unfortunately advised have to wait for LG to send an update. I have tried all of the suggestions for the other variant phones including installing SGS touchscreen booster and unfortunately nothing helped. Have the Rogers variant and was wondering if others have found a solution temporarily. Rogers hasn't received the lg keyboard update yet. Thanks all.
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Hi, I have looked through the threads but haven't found info, wanted to see what fellow Canadian owners have done in regards to the touchscreen issue. Also wanted to add this thread as to show another variant having issues, Rogers was unaware until I called them and they saw xda threads. They were helpful but unfortunately advised have to wait for LG to send an update. I have tried all of the suggestions for the other variant phones including installing SGS touchscreen booster and unfortunately nothing helped. Have the Rogers variant and was wondering if others have found a solution temporarily. Rogers hasn't received the lg keyboard update yet. Thanks all.
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I'm on Rogers, and SGS fixed my issues. All the US carriers are releasing updates as we speak, so I can only assume the Canadian carriers will follow soon. LG is getting returns because of this issue, so you can bet they will be all over a fix.
As for Rogers being unaware of the issue...that's bull. They always say that. Rogers knows.
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Thanks for the reply. Awesome to hear SGS worked for you. Did you do anything else, developer options etc? I will perform another factory reset and try again. Hope I can get it working, pain in the arse having the missing touches. Hopefully rogers does it sooner than later.
OP, there's another post for CDN models here. LINK
I am also experience pretty annoying touch screen issues, and I can't even exchange with WIND since they claim they're out of stock.
Cobthaich said:
Thanks for the reply. Awesome to hear SGS worked for you. Did you do anything else, developer options etc? I will perform another factory reset and try again. Hope I can get it working, pain in the arse having the missing touches. Hopefully rogers does it sooner than later.
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I didn't change anything in my developer options (other than disabling all animations). My Touchscreen issues weren't bad to begin with, and I DO NOT use the stock keyboard. Both of those are most likely why SGS helped me.
Thx for the info guys, I will read through the cdn section and start using swift key with sgs.
I think this whole issue is overrated. Yes, I get the occasional miss but so what? Same thing has happened with every smart phone I've owned. Maybe I didn't tap hard enough, maybe I did. But why does the occasional miss get people's knickers in such knots. It has virtually no effect on the user experience with this great phone.
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I think this whole issue is overrated. Yes, I get the occasional miss but so what? Same thing has happened with every smart phone I've owned. Maybe I didn't tap hard enough, maybe I did. But why does the occasional miss get people's knickers in such knots. It has virtually no effect on the user experience with this great phone.
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I wouldn't say that. You might not be getting the issue as others are. Apparently it's pretty bad with some phones.
If you didn't know, the LG G2 had a huge issue with its touchscreen where the top portion of the screen stopped working, edge to edge, so people couldn't tap on anything in that portion of the screen.
The G3 also had its issues and now G4. LG clearly needs to change their touchscreen/digitizers and use someone else's if they're incapable of reliability.
Anyways, I was coming here to start a new thread and ask if someone tried the version from Wind to see if it has the touchscreen issue before I buy the phone. Thank you to the person who mentioned it !!
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I think this whole issue is overrated. Yes, I get the occasional miss but so what? Same thing has happened with every smart phone I've owned. Maybe I didn't tap hard enough, maybe I did. But why does the occasional miss get people's knickers in such knots. It has virtually no effect on the user experience with this great phone.
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It might not be too apparent for other people, but on mine it's been getting worse. Someone mentioned before that it actually seems issues get worse as the phone gets hotter.
Not sure how much of that is true, but it kills the experience for me.
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I wouldn't say that. You might not be getting the issue as others are. Apparently it's pretty bad with some phones.
If you didn't know, the LG G2 had a huge issue with its touchscreen where the top portion of the screen stopped working, edge to edge, so people couldn't tap on anything in that portion of the screen.
The G3 also had its issues and now G4. LG clearly needs to change their touchscreen/digitizers and use someone else's if they're incapable of reliability.
Anyways, I was coming here to start a new thread and ask if someone tried the version from Wind to see if it has the touchscreen issue before I buy the phone. Thank you to the person who mentioned it !!
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I have WIND one, and the issue is there.
It started off being hardly noticed now and could seem to be my mistake. Now it's much worse and every other swipe registers as a type, taps are missing around 50 - 60%. Can't get it exchanged either since WIND claims their sold out of G4's in the GTA region, with an exception of one return for an S6.
Not entirely sure I will keep my G4 as much as I love it.
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It might not be too apparent for other people, but on mine it's been getting worse. Someone mentioned before that it actually seems issues get worse as the phone gets hotter.
Not sure how much of that is true, but it kills the experience for me.
I have WIND one, and the issue is there.
It started off being hardly noticed now and could seem to be my mistake. Now it's much worse and every other swipe registers as a type, taps are missing around 50 - 60%. Can't get it exchanged either since WIND claims their sold out of G4's in the GTA region, with an exception of one return for an S6.
Not entirely sure I will keep my G4 as much as I love it.
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I think going for the S6 is the best choice. I'm considering the 3 phones, M9, g4, s6. S6 seems to be the least buggy, as usual. M9 has its hardware issues or I'd get it.
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I think going for the S6 is the best choice. I'm considering the 3 phones, M9, g4, s6. S6 seems to be the least buggy, as usual. M9 has its hardware issues or I'd get it.
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Honestly every phone has it's quirks, by no means will your S6 have no chance of issues. You can check out the S6 forum on XDA for more info.
Even with that being said, this LG G4 touch screen issue seems pretty big IMO in comparison to the number of issues on the S6.
Apart from Touchscreen issues, are you guys getting the Wi-fi issue?
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Apart from Touchscreen issues, are you guys getting the Wi-fi issue?
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I am. I find it pretty weak. The phone is useless with using Dnset app.
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Check the S6 forums at Android Central. The S6 is a train wreck of issues compared to the G4.
Overheating, dead gyroscope, lagging, front camera purple dots, horrid battery life....
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Check the S6 forums at Android Central. The S6 is a train wreck of issues compared to the G4.
Overheating, dead gyroscope, lagging, front camera purple dots, horrid battery life....
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To be fair, some of those aren't real issues that ONLY affect the S6.
"Overheating" seems like almost a loose term as people complain about their phones getting hot, but it happens to nearly every android phone.
Lagging "issue" seems to be something people will always complain about with every new phone for some reason, heck there's even post about it here.
"Horrid battery life" isn't really that bad. Yes the G4 is better, but even then people still complain about having a issues with it.
I still think having touch screen issues is the worse, especially since the updates for the US seemed to have fixed it for some while others are still plagued by it.
It leaves me in a state indecisiveness where I love this phone and want to believe it can be fixed via software or I should just cut my losses and exchange to an S6 while I can.
I agree with you. Overheating is going to be an issue for any high end phone going forward, because processors keep getting more powerful (with no active cooling), and phones keep getting thinner. Overheating is also subjective. Most people feel their phone getting warm and assume it's overheating. If it doesn't warn you and start throttling, it's not overheating.
Battery life is totally subjective as no two users are the same. Screen on time is the worst way to measure battery life. Someone surfing the net is going to get a lot more screen on time than someone gaming and watching 4k videos.
LG G4 Touch screen issue is present in Canada as well
I am reposting my reply on this Canadian thread:
To all Canadian LG G4 buyers, the touch screen problem is alive and present in Canada as well. I bought a Wind Mobile LG G4, everything was fine at first but once I plugged it into the charger, it started to to miss touches and being unresponsive (the touches won’t register on the first try) the good test is when you double tap to wake or sleep OR when you go to phone’s setting and touch “about phone” or something else and it misses the first touch. It SHOULD NOT miss any touches, period. I put it next it to my LG G3 and on my LG G3 double tap to wake and sleep worked every time and no missed touches in the phone setting either, when it was plugged into the charger.. but it didn’t work on LG G4 which is unacceptable for $700 phone, once again it only happens when you PLUGGED IT in to the charger, if its disconnected it works fine. I returned that phone
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fuTCuRkJLI
In my opinion, this is the biggest issue currently plaguing the nexus one... If I wasn’t stuck with tmobile/tzones, I would switch to a droid (verizon) or capitivate (att) in an instant because this problem seriously kills the usability of the product. Im not talking about the lack of true multitouch (crossing axis, 3 finger, etc) cause I know that’s a non issues unless you play one of the 5 games in marketplace that require true multitouch. This is different... It is very annoying when you are halfway through typing a sentence and suddenly your “t” registers as a “v” or your “m” registers as “home”, etc.... Im keeping my nexus because there are other factors that make it the better overall phone for me but I really think some of you fanboys need to open your eyes and realize there is (are) huge flaws with out beloved dev phone.
I don't recall seeing anyone post that the nexus was the best phone because it had no issues at all.
when this happens to me I just lock and unlock the phone and the issue is gone.
What I don't understand is that in the title you say it's a deal-breaker and in your post you say you're keeping the phone. So which is it?
Also, you're about five months late in *****ing about this issue.
And rather than come here and calling us all fanboys, maybe you should take a look in the mirror at the idiot who bought a device with an issue that bothers him so much.
Really though, you just made a fool of yourself for everyone to see.
Fanboi out.
this post was directed at the blind fanboys who go into the other threads and act like this is a non issue... it is not.
any phone i buy is going to have some glaring flaw... i think it is impossible to have a perfect phone. i am just identifying this as the nexus ones #1 flaw.
As Old MuckenMire stated, you are BY FAR not the first person to whine about this. It's an old issue, and I'm pretty sure it has to do with the hardware. These "fanbois" have probably accepted it as a non-issue because there is no fix.
BTW, the Galaxy S is available on T-Mo as the Vibrant.
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As Old MuckenMire stated, you are BY FAR not the first person to whine about this. It's an old issue, and I'm pretty sure it has to do with the hardware. These "fanbois" have probably accepted it as a non-issue because there is no fix.
BTW, the Galaxy S is available on T-Mo as the Vibrant.
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i personally think that this issue is MUCH worse than lack of true multitouch, but every week we get a thread about multitouch when i think thats the true non issue
galaxy s does not work with tzones
It's all down to opinion.
Should it have been fixed before even shipping the device? **** yes.
Do I really care? No.
The truth is, it's only as big a deal as you make it.
This issue doesn't happen to me very often, like 3 times a week? All I have to do is just lock and unlock the screen.
Mhmm. Simple. Maybe a little annoying, but nothing too infuriating.
exactly, this happens to me about 3 times a week, sometimes less. to fix it you just lock the screen and the issue is gone. i'm not saying its a non-issue. i'm just saying its not the end of the world and certainly isnt a "deal breaker" like the title of this thread. every phone has their stupid quirks. look at the galaxy s, the gps doesnt barely work. the evo has 30 fps cap (which is a way worse issue than nexus touch), on and on. each device has some issue or another.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fuTCuRkJLI
In my opinion, this is the biggest issue currently plaguing the nexus one... If I wasn’t stuck with tmobile/tzones, I would switch to a droid (verizon) or capitivate (att) in an instant because this problem seriously kills the usability of the product. Im not talking about the lack of true multitouch (crossing axis, 3 finger, etc) cause I know that’s a non issues unless you play one of the 5 games in marketplace that require true multitouch. This is different... It is very annoying when you are halfway through typing a sentence and suddenly your “t” registers as a “v” or your “m” registers as “home”, etc.... Im keeping my nexus because there are other factors that make it the better overall phone for me but I really think some of you fanboys need to open your eyes and realize there is (are) huge flaws with out beloved dev phone.
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Use Swype or Swift Key.
Swype is the worst when you have this issue. No words will work until you lock/unlock the screen.
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Swype is the worst when you have this issue. No words will work until you lock/unlock the screen.
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You know this touch screen issue with the wrong letters being registered, I used to have this problem about 2-3 times a day. Then when froyo came out, it was like twice a month. Now ever since I flashed Cyanogen 6, I have yet to see it. Don't know how or why...I'm just thankful
Very nice
This issue seems to be a thousand times worse if the phone's been getting hot from sitting in the car dock. EVERY time I pull it out of there after it's been there for more than 10 minutes or so, the phone's so hot that it's painful to touch it, and the touch screen's really flaky even after locking and unlocking, unless i let it cool down first.
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This issue seems to be a thousand times worse if the phone's been getting hot from sitting in the car dock. EVERY time I pull it out of there after it's been there for more than 10 minutes or so, the phone's so hot that it's painful to touch it, and the touch screen's really flaky even after locking and unlocking, unless i let it cool down first.
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Uhhhhh your device should NEVER get that hot.
Hmmm, this happened a few times right after I got my N1 in March but I don't think it has happened since.
Sorry, total non-issue for me.
fubaya said:
Hmmm, this happened a few times right after I got my N1 in March but I don't think it has happened since.
Sorry, total non-issue for me.
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this is the point of this thread, maybe we can isolate what causes it... and do HTC/googles QA
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this post was directed at the blind fanboys who go into the other threads and act like this is a non issue... it is not.
any phone i buy is going to have some glaring flaw... i think it is impossible to have a perfect phone. i am just identifying this as the nexus ones #1 flaw.
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Be that as it may, I have yet to ever experience this issue. Can you tell me how I can try to recreate it?
Hey everyone,
So, I've acquired my Z3 from Tmo on Oct 29th, the day it was released. Thus far, I've pretty happy with it. The battery is amazing, although I know it will last me over a day, or more, I'm stuck in my old habits of charging...which I am attempting to get used to better battery life. Anywho, here's my cons with this phone:
-I was using a Samsung Galaxy S3 (T999). The touch screen worked great. This phone though, I've had delays or my touches not being noticed. More so when I first turn the phone on to the lockscreen. If I give it about 10 seconds, it will respond to all touches.
-Along the same lines as the lockscreen not acknowledging all my touches, this also happens during various games or apps. Playing Arcane Legends, for instance, when I attempt to move, sometimes it doesn't. If I retry two or three times, it will then start working.
-I also get crackling sounds during calls, not all the time, but it is often enough. Also, when I have the touch sounds enabled and speakers plugged into it, it often also makes crackling sounds.
-Had many more settings to choose from when I was using Cyanogenmod 11 on my SGS3. I would figure this to be the case, but I do miss some settings, especially some Security-based ones. Maybe there are secret menus?
-I also wished that the LED was brighter... in my opinion it is really dim.
With all that being said, and knowing that Android L is on the way in a few months, I'm more than willing to wait to see is these issues are resolved. If not, I'll be getting a hold of Sony support to resolve these issues.
I'm curious if any of you have had these issues and if you've found workarounds.
As far as the pros, they outweigh the cons noted above. Battery is awesome, responsiveness if awesome, the overall experience is awesome. Works well with anything that I throw at it and its still goes beyond that.
Thanks,
Johnathan
Hey I haven't experienced any touch screen problems what so ever and I'm a heavy long time android user. Call quality is great as well. Not sure what's going on with yours
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pezlomd said:
Hey I haven't experienced any touch screen problems what so ever and I'm a heavy long time android user. Call quality is great as well. Not sure what's going on with yours
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Pezlomd,
Thanks for the reply. Out of curiousity, what are your OS details:
-Android: 4.4.4
-Baseband version: 8974-AAAAANAZQ-00009-06
-Kernel version: 3.4.0-perf-g0ab9f9a (Fri Sep 5 07:22.38 2014
-Build number: 23.0.D.1.123:
Thanks,
Johnathan
Return it, sounds like you got a defective phone.
Elysian893 said:
Return it, sounds like you got a defective phone.
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Ugh... and after I got it the way I want it.
johnathanamber said:
Hey everyone,
So, I've acquired my Z3 from Tmo on Oct 29th, the day it was released. Thus far, I've pretty happy with it. The battery is amazing, although I know it will last me over a day, or more, I'm stuck in my old habits of charging...which I am attempting to get used to better battery life. Anywho, here's my cons with this phone:
-I was using a Samsung Galaxy S3 (T999). The touch screen worked great. This phone though, I've had delays or my touches not being noticed. More so when I first turn the phone on to the lockscreen. If I give it about 10 seconds, it will respond to all touches.
-Along the same lines as the lockscreen not acknowledging all my touches, this also happens during various games or apps. Playing Arcane Legends, for instance, when I attempt to move, sometimes it doesn't. If I retry two or three times, it will then start working.
-I also get crackling sounds during calls, not all the time, but it is often enough. Also, when I have the touch sounds enabled and speakers plugged into it, it often also makes crackling sounds.
-Had many more settings to choose from when I was using Cyanogenmod 11 on my SGS3. I would figure this to be the case, but I do miss some settings, especially some Security-based ones. Maybe there are secret menus?
-I also wished that the LED was brighter... in my opinion it is really dim.
With all that being said, and knowing that Android L is on the way in a few months, I'm more than willing to wait to see is these issues are resolved. If not, I'll be getting a hold of Sony support to resolve these issues.
I'm curious if any of you have had these issues and if you've found workarounds.
As far as the pros, they outweigh the cons noted above. Battery is awesome, responsiveness if awesome, the overall experience is awesome. Works well with anything that I throw at it and its still goes beyond that.
Thanks,
Johnathan
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I'd like to also add, that as far as functionality of the phone itself, the rotating flaps for the exposed ports seems to be a little flimsy and can easily break. This worries me a bit that if they are accidentally snapped off due to slight mishandling... you'll lose your waterproofing.
Also, I don't like that the volume options when using the volume up and down buttons isn't more granular. For instance, when I wanted to increase the SMS notification volume, I had to go through Setting instead of having more volume options when the buttons are pressed. Did I miss a setting?
Considering getting it replaced to see if that's the issue with the touchness delay or crackling sounds.
Thanks,
Johnathan
johnathanamber said:
I'd like to also add, that as far as functionality of the phone itself, the rotating flaps for the exposed ports seems to be a little flimsy and can easily break. This worries me a bit that if they are accidentally snapped off due to slight mishandling... you'll lose your waterproofing.
Also, I don't like that the volume options when using the volume up and down buttons isn't more granular. For instance, when I wanted to increase the SMS notification volume, I had to go through Setting instead of having more volume options when the buttons are pressed. Did I miss a setting?
Considering getting it replaced to see if that's the issue with the touchness delay or crackling sounds.
Thanks,
Johnathan
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The phone comes with an extra USB cover, won't lose anything. MicroSD/Sim shouldn't come off very often. I don't think you need be concerned.
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The phone comes with an extra USB cover, won't lose anything. MicroSD/Sim shouldn't come off very often. I don't think you need be concerned.
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Elysian893,
I am not concerned for my own experience, however I can see where this can be an issue.
Waiting for my DK48 magnetic dock to arrive, which will alleviate my concern.
Thanks,
Johnathan
Johnathan,
I've experienced some crackling/popping when on a call without using my headset. After a reboot though, it seems to have gone away. The last 2 days, my battery began lasting no more than 5-6 hours. I thought that it might have something to do with an app, so I began experimenting and found that the Sony Photo upload service was hanging, and also Lookout was scanning everything constantly. I uninstalled Lookout and disabled the Sony uploads and things seem to have returned to normal, although I will need another day or so to evaluate.
FWIW, here is my review I posted over the weekend:
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Never owned a Sony phone but now I "have a Sony for my Owny" (older folks will get this line)! I must say - I am in love with one caveat - that being a locked bootloader. Pretty disappointed in that however I was happy to read a page or 2 back that I will likely still be able to root which is really all I care about. That said, the bloatware on the D6616 is minimal, so aside from liking to try out new ROM's and removing ads, I guess I can live with that one "caveat".
The phone itself is gorgeous - in fact, I told my wife that it's almost as sexy as she is (yeah - I take my phone's pretty seriously )! I love its size - I had a OnePlus One which I was pretty happy with, but being an average size guy (that's being generous), I found it really difficult to use it with one hand. The Z3 has a slightly smaller screen size vs the OPO, but the overall build size is proportionally smaller as well, making it even more attractive size-wise. Of course, the other side of that coin is that the OPO has a non-slip back in the 64gb version which was really nice, however I see that wearing out over time. The Z3 is slippery meaning I will likely cover the beautiful beast with a case - but we'll see if I end up keeping a case on it. I've always been one to believe that if you have insurance and a beautiful device, covering that device with a case is counter-intuitive. I'm torn on the case thing - time will tell.
The phone is incredibly smooth and responsive, the speaker is pretty loud and sounds good, and the camera is arguably the best available on a phone. Not sure I like all the options the camera offers - many or pretty hokey - but the picture quality is just brilliant. Overall, this phone may last me more than a year which would beat my last two phones. You see, I have "NewPhone-itus" and it's a serious case!
If anyone has any questions - fire away and I will do my best to answer!
I'm surprised at the z3 hate on xda. With all the complaints about the camera, build quality, software issues, etc, I find myself getting paranoid looking for problems with the phone. The truth is that it's a pretty great phone so far. Great battery, great camera, fast and responsive, and yes, as sexy as shermcraigs wife ?. A week in and I'm happy with my trade from my m8.
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I'm surprised at the z3 hate on xda. With all the complaints about the camera, build quality, software issues, etc, I find myself getting paranoid looking for problems with the phone. The truth is that it's a pretty great phone so far. Great battery, great camera, fast and responsive, and yes, as sexy as shermcraigs wife ?. A week in and I'm happy with my trade from my m8.
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Its not that the phone itself is bad per say, its the lack of consistency/quality control. I am on my 4th one here due to various issues from indented frame to bad camera to light bleed to massive screen gaps. Thanks to T-Mobile 14 day policy I was able to through so many phones. A rep had to open 5-6 phones to give me a good one when I got my third only to find it has a massive ligh tleak on on side. The one I got today thank god is finally issueless so far at least. My local T-Mobile store is sending many back to Sony, they are actively opening boxes, checking for defects and returning before even giving to customers.
I have owned phones from practically every company, this is the first time I have had to return a phone, let alone 3. All companies have issues with initial batches but this was just too widespread. I am sure future batches will be rectified, its one of the down sides of immediately adopting a new model as soon as release.
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Its not that the phone itself is bad per say, its the lack of consistency/quality control. I am on my 4th one here due to various issues from indented frame to bad camera to light bleed to massive screen gaps. Thanks to T-Mobile 14 day policy I was able to through so many phones. A rep had to open 5-6 phones to give me a good one when I got my third only to find it has a massive ligh tleak on on side. The one I got today thank god is finally issueless so far at least. My local T-Mobile store is sending many back to Sony, they are actively opening boxes, checking for defects and returning before even giving to customers.
I have owned phones from practically every company, this is the first time I have had to return a phone, let alone 3. All companies have issues with initial batches but this was just too widespread. I am sure future batches will be rectified, its one of the down sides of immediately adopting a new model as soon as release.
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But you have to pay for restocking fee of $50?
ShermCraig said:
Johnathan,
I've experienced some crackling/popping when on a call without using my headset. After a reboot though, it seems to have gone away. The last 2 days, my battery began lasting no more than 5-6 hours. I thought that it might have something to do with an app, so I began experimenting and found that the Sony Photo upload service was hanging, and also Lookout was scanning everything constantly. I uninstalled Lookout and disabled the Sony uploads and things seem to have returned to normal, although I will need another day or so to evaluate.
FWIW, here is my review I posted over the weekend:
___________________________________________
Never owned a Sony phone but now I "have a Sony for my Owny" (older folks will get this line)! I must say - I am in love with one caveat - that being a locked bootloader. Pretty disappointed in that however I was happy to read a page or 2 back that I will likely still be able to root which is really all I care about. That said, the bloatware on the D6616 is minimal, so aside from liking to try out new ROM's and removing ads, I guess I can live with that one "caveat".
The phone itself is gorgeous - in fact, I told my wife that it's almost as sexy as she is (yeah - I take my phone's pretty seriously )! I love its size - I had a OnePlus One which I was pretty happy with, but being an average size guy (that's being generous), I found it really difficult to use it with one hand. The Z3 has a slightly smaller screen size vs the OPO, but the overall build size is proportionally smaller as well, making it even more attractive size-wise. Of course, the other side of that coin is that the OPO has a non-slip back in the 64gb version which was really nice, however I see that wearing out over time. The Z3 is slippery meaning I will likely cover the beautiful beast with a case - but we'll see if I end up keeping a case on it. I've always been one to believe that if you have insurance and a beautiful device, covering that device with a case is counter-intuitive. I'm torn on the case thing - time will tell.
The phone is incredibly smooth and responsive, the speaker is pretty loud and sounds good, and the camera is arguably the best available on a phone. Not sure I like all the options the camera offers - many or pretty hokey - but the picture quality is just brilliant. Overall, this phone may last me more than a year which would beat my last two phones. You see, I have "NewPhone-itus" and it's a serious case!
If anyone has any questions - fire away and I will do my best to answer!
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I would seriously doubt it - he was exchanging a bad unit,
not returning. Big difference.
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But you have to pay for restocking fee of $50?
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jhun80 said:
But you have to pay for restocking fee of $50?
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No fees, because its a defect and you are asking for the same model. Fee is only if you switch models.
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No fees, because its a defect and you are asking for the same model. Fee is only if you switch models.
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really? because i used to have a black s4, and switch to white version but they charged me $50
jhun80 said:
really? because i used to have a black s4, and switch to white version but they charged me $50
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Did you do it within the first 14 days?
Maybe color change constitutes the equivalent of model change.
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Did you do it within the first 14 days?
Maybe color change constitutes the equivalent of model change.
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yup within 14days
I haven't experienced any lag with the touch screen, but I've experienced slow screen rotation.
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My sister exchanged her white GS4 for another white one due to yellowish tint on top, they did it for free. I think because you just wanted a color change and there was no defect they charged you.
I have T-Mobile.
My only gripe is that there is no Group MMS built in. It really, really sucks. And it is causing me to return this phone in a few days. I can use Textra (or Google Hangouts) for Group MMS, but it will not send them out when WiFi Calling is enabled. I know there is a "WiFI Calling fix" option specifically for T-Mobile phones when using Textra, but all that does is disable WiFi when sending/receiving MMS messages and then re-enables it. That completely defeats the purpose of WiFI Calling if you're not going to have service in a certain area.
Group MMS is extremely important to me. For whatever reason, only stock messaging apps have the capability of utilizing T-Mobile's WiFi Calling to send/receive MMS. (SMS works fine).
My HTC One m7 had the ability to do it with its stock messaging app. So, for now, I have no choice but to return my phone, fight the $50 restocking fee, and go back to my paid off HTC One. I am speechless that this phone does not support it.
Has anyone else had this issue? I got an OTA last night around midnight, and it has rebooted itself in the middle of use twice today.
Nope
Any idea of what the OTA actually installed?
I have no clue
I'm having the same issue. Phone has rebooted 3 times today.
What version did the OTA bring your phone up to? PB4??
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I had sync.me installed as a way to get profile pics in contacts. I uninstalled it yesterday and it hasn't rebooted since. Seemed like it was over working the phone. Carbonad, do you have sync.me?
My Note 5 and S7 Edge reboot itself at least once a day minimum. My Note 5 reboots more than the S7 Edge, though. Also, my S7 Edge likes to vibrate when there's no notifications, button presses, or even screen touches - along with the screen turning on whenever it wants to. Yet the battery still lasts forever. I also get false touches quite a bit (mentioned in another thread by another user).
Samsung FTW. Still not as many problems as I hear all of my family and friends complaining about with their beloved iPhone. But my Samsung is "far from superior"? Lolz.
All phones matter.
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My Note 5 and S7 Edge reboot itself at least once a day minimum. My Note 5 reboots more than the S7 Edge, though. Also, my S7 Edge likes to vibrate when there's no notifications, button presses, or even screen touches
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I never had a smartphone that would randomly and regularly reboot itself. The fact that both of yours do that seems like an odd coincidence to me. You think maybe it's an app you have installed on both devices that could be the culprit? If my phones were doing that I would have them replaced because that's not normal. BTW, I have the overly sensitive screen issue on my S7 Edge but apparantly it's the nature of the beast. I went to both Best Buy and a Verizon store and played around with their display models. They all seem about the same. So I guess it's something you have to adjust to. I'm still looking forward to a fix in a firmware update though.
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I never had a smartphone that would randomly and regularly reboot itself. The fact that both of yours do that seems like an odd coincidence to me. You think maybe it's an app you have installed on both devices that could be the culprit? If my phones were doing that I would have them replaced because that's not normal. BTW, I have the overly sensitive screen issue on my S7 Edge but apparantly it's the nature of the beast. I went to both Best Buy and a Verizon store and played around with their display models. They all seem about the same. So I guess it's something you have to adjust to. I'm still looking forward to a fix in a firmware update though.
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I'm not totally sure what it would be cause by on the Note 5. It started after the first Marshmallow update. I can't do an OTA because it's no longer on a carrier, so I'm not sure if any updates (if released) would fix it or not. I do use Nova Prime on it for a launcher, and the device has a fair amount of apps and is loaded with widgets on 3 screens (including the home screen).
The S7 Edge doesn't do the reboots anymore since the 2nd Marshmallow update, so that's no longer an issue. After today's update, the phone isn't waking randomly anymore, so the screen is turning on randomly. I also haven't been experiencing the vibrate issue either. The device appears to be a lot more stable than previously, too.
I assume its a mixture of updates through firmware and apps that cause the issues I was experiencing, but it's difficult to say.
I only experience an "overly sensitive screen" when I play Clash of Clans and hold my finger in one spot on the screen - it'll start shaking as if I was moving my finger slightly in different directions. I just checked now and it doesn't do that anymore, so that may have been fixed.
I haven't been able to update the Note 5 yet, nor am I to worried about it at this point, so I can't confirm any changes on that device.
However, the S7 Edge of mine is preforming exceptionally today. Much better than it was even preforming this morning pre-update.
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I haven't been able to update the Note 5 yet, nor am I to worried about it at this point, so I can't confirm any changes on that device.
However, the S7 Edge of mine is preforming exceptionally today. Much better than it was even preforming this morning pre-update.
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That's good that your S7 issue is resolved. Maybe Samsung is aware of some of the screen issues and is working on it with updates. As far as your Note 5, you can probably find the latest firmware on Sammobile.
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That's good that your S7 issue is resolved. Maybe Samsung is aware of some of the screen issues and is working on it with updates. As far as your Note 5, you can probably find the latest firmware on Sammobile.
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I spoke too soon as most of the issues came back again.
Not sure what the problem is, but oh well.
There's been a problem with every phone I've purchased - HTC Hero, HTC Evo3D, Galaxy S4, Note 3, Note 4, Note 5, and S7 Edge.
The difference is that I was able to install custom ROM's on those older devices.
It's always something. That's how it goes.
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I know that feeling. At the suggestion of a Verizon tech, I ran the Verizon repair assistant program in an attempt to fix my over sensitive touch screen issue. When I ran the program my phone was working normal without the screen sensitivity problem. I blabbed it on the forums I found a fix. The following day was screen was back to acting up. I would have returned the phone if I knew the fix was only temporary. By waiting that one more day I was one day past my 14 day return window. I'm getting use to the way it is. I have to be overly cautious to prevent inadvertently opening apps and links.
If someone can show me a forum about an Android device where there is no one talking about their device lags or sucks for a variety of issues, I would like to know. There are always going to people with issues. Some may be user induced, some a design flaw and others just a defective unit.
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I know that feeling. At the suggestion of a Verizon tech, I ran the Verizon repair assistant program in an attempt to fix my over sensitive touch screen issue. When I ran the program my phone was working normal without the screen sensitivity problem. I blabbed it on the forums I found a fix. The following day was screen was back to acting up. I would have returned the phone if I knew the fix was only temporary. By waiting that one more day I was one day past my 14 day return window. I'm getting use to the way it is. I have to be overly cautious to prevent inadvertently opening apps and links.
If someone can show me a forum about an Android device where there is no one talking about their device lags or sucks for a variety of issues, I would like to know. There are always going to people with issues. Some may be user induced, some a design flaw and others just a defective unit.
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Here's what is causing the random screen-on:
http://androidforums.com/threads/samsung-s7-screen-keeps-turning-on-randomly.1014655/page-2
Turns out to be the Verizon Message+ App.
After disabling that app, I no longer have that issue.
The screen, however, is still pretty... (sensitive?). There are times where the phone will act as if I tapped the screen, but I never even touched it; resulting in a clicked link, webpage moving, etc... A bit irritating, but isn't causing too much of a hassle.
In conclusion, every phone will always have a defect. Lol.
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My notification light no longer works at all. Lol. I give up.
After weathering the storm of chaos as huge crowds rushed to get the One, hearing countless horror stories of failing phones and terrible support, and waiting for (hopefully) all hardware problems to rear their ugly faces, I'm at a loss now--in March 2016--as to whether or not buying a used phone, said to work perfectly by the seller and has been tested enough by natural selection, would be a good idea if I can only return DOAs.
I'm calling on everyone here not to post just epic sob-stories; instead, if you had an issue (hardware, software, firmware, or other) please post what it was, when it showed up (how much use, any possible user error that may have caused it), whether it was fixed (and if it was, what it was fixed by), how long it lasted, what ROM/software version you were on, and any other important info.
Thanks so much in advance; I really like the specs and the original reviews, but just can't be sure if it got back up after falling flat right out of the gate.
I got a oneplus one. I love it!. Soon as I got i t I rooted and flashed CM13. NO ISSUES WITH IT AT ALL.
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After weathering the storm of chaos as huge crowds rushed to get the One, hearing countless horror stories of failing phones and terrible support, and waiting for (hopefully) all hardware problems to rear their ugly faces, I'm at a loss now--in March 2016--as to whether or not buying a used phone, said to work perfectly by the seller and has been tested enough by natural selection, would be a good idea if I can only return DOAs.
I'm calling on everyone here not to post just epic sob-stories; instead, if you had an issue (hardware, software, firmware, or other) please post what it was, when it showed up (how much use, any possible user error that may have caused it), whether it was fixed (and if it was, what it was fixed by), how long it lasted, what ROM/software version you were on, and any other important info.
Thanks so much in advance; I really like the specs and the original reviews, but just can't be sure if it got back up after falling flat right out of the gate.
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Nearly 2 years and no regrets..
I only got this phone at the end of 2015 and I haven't regretted a bit, ever. It's an amazing phone, I never had any problem with it. The metal around the screen is the only thing that wears out, it's not awful but it as some scratches, and I'm very careful. Believe me, for the price, this is still the best budget phone you can get
I have the ability to get it for as low as $180 here in the US. I know that is quite a good deal compared to the original price, but with the OPX having been released with similar specs and such I'm not quite sure I fully grasp whether or not this price is a steal, or just a good bargain. Thoughts?
Absolutely hate it. I regret trading my Nexus 6 for it. My data has been spotty and I keep getting random reboots. Today, I was using the GPS and Google Maps lost the ability to connect to my phone's mobile data during the commute. Completely overshot my destination, thanks OnePlus!
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Absolutely hate it. I regret trading my Nexus 6 for it. My data has been spotty and I keep getting random reboots. Today, I was using the GPS and Google Maps lost the ability to connect to my phone's mobile data during the commute. Completely overshot my destination, thanks OnePlus!
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When it comes to data, I'm not too worried as I use tracfone (so I'm not really used to the convenience of data on the go) and have great coverage around here--unless it is so significantly worse than the Nexus 6 so as to cause a steady 3-4 bars on one to equal intermittent service on the other.
For the random reboots, when did they start? What ROM? When do they happen?
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I have the ability to get it for as low as $180 here in the US. I know that is quite a good deal compared to the original price, but with the OPX having been released with similar specs and such I'm not quite sure I fully grasp whether or not this price is a steal, or just a good bargain. Thoughts?
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On paper, the OnePlus One and OnePlus X may seem similar, but it's only so much.
The OPO features (as compared to the OPX)
> a higher-tier variant of the Snapdragon 801 (MSM8974AC) @ 2.5ghz
> a larger 5.5in LTPS (IPS LCD) display (screen size is subjective, some people prefer smaller)
> better band support for US Carriers (the OPX lacks necessary bands)
> a better rear-facing camera (capable of 4K DCI/UHD recording) and can be vastly improved with Sultan's modifications
> WIFI AC + Dual band (2.4/5.0ghz)
> a larger 3100mah battery
> NFC (the OPX doesn't have NFC, seriously)
But most importantly, the OPO is sustained by one of the largest dev communities ever, right here at XDA. Even after OnePlus/Cyanogen discontinues official support for the device, the community will keep it alive and strong for a VERY long time. The OPX lacks this kind of love and support. Unsurprisingly, OnePlus themselves seem to be neglecting the OPX.
The OPX features (as compared to the OPO)
> a more portable 5in AMOLED display
> a better front-facing camera
I might sound biased, but that is justified by everything I've just listed. It's clear who's the winner here.
Spec sheets for reference:
http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_one-6327.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_x-7630.php
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On paper, ... camera
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Thanks for the insight. I kind of wonder why it's so cheap when it's so competitive with other phones of the time. The Galaxy s5 seems to go, used, for between $250-300 while the OPO goes for between 200-225 normally. I get that last generation phones can go down in price, but it seemed unexpected that it didn't even out to pretty much the same used price as most of those other phones. I was just thinking there must be something I was missing.
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I kind of wonder why it's so cheap when it's so competitive with other phones of the time. The Galaxy s5 seems to go, used, for between $250-300 while the OPO goes for between 200-225 normally. I get that last generation phones can go down in price, but it seemed unexpected that it didn't even out to pretty much the same used price as most of those other phones. I was just thinking there must be something I was missing.
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This is expected. The Galaxy S5 is a Samsung device and as with all popular brands, these devices can go for a high price, from when they're released to even a few years later.
The OnePlus One was OnePlus' very first device and it was named "The Flagship Killer" for a reason- that reason being it had the same specs as popular flagship devices (ie. Galaxy S5, Xperia Z3, HTC One M8) but costed much less than they did. This is why the OPO, new or used, continues to be sold for lower than any other popular flagship device.
As a note, OnePlus claims that they barely made any profit at the time due to selling the OPO for such a low price, but they actually had a lot of backup from their overseeing company, OPPO.
Trust me (and everyone here), the OPO is still an amazing device. Everything about it screams high quality.
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When it comes to data, I'm not too worried as I use tracfone (so I'm not really used to the convenience of data on the go) and have great coverage around here--unless it is so significantly worse than the Nexus 6 so as to cause a steady 3-4 bars on one to equal intermittent service on the other.
For the random reboots, when did they start? What ROM? When do they happen?
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Running Sultan's CM13 - had similar issues with CM12. Switched to CM13 because Sultan was actively developing it. Tried other roms but I didn't like them as much as Sultan's rom. Charging is also atrocious - 2 hours to go from 10% to 100% with the stock cable and charger.
The funny thing is, I had full bars and data, GMaps just couldn't connect until I restarted the phone.
I had three reboots in the past hour. One with the phone laying on my desk. Another while scrolling through GroupMe. The final after I took a screenshot of my lockscreen. I don't use xposed or any other customization app.
Best phone ever released till date, we can edit ANDROID to the core.. I am using since aug 2014, only thing i regret is camera compared to todays phones but even it lives it up to the mark
well!! it is reliable enough ...
I've had this device since November 2014 and going strong. This device is one of the best purchases I've ever made in terms of a device. Unless I cause damage to it or there are new band support that's needed in the near future, I might actually try to keep this device until end of 2017.
I've really have had no issues with this phone, probably my only real gripe is the lack of OIS support.
You really can't go wrong with the OnePlus One.
Being a phone junkie, I jumped at the chance for a flagship killer, and do not regret it. Looking at all the phones we have today, this one still stacks up great, and outperforms my buddies lg v10 (which was what I was going to get, but couldn't justify the price) in a lot of areas (mostly stupid golf games), though all his hardware is top notch.
This device is affordable, and still runs as smooth as day one. Dev community awesome. I had the slight yellow tinge when it first came out, but it's gone. I had another friend of mine buy the op2 just cause he liked my phone so much but wanted the dual Sim...
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I'm looking to jump back in with a OPO after a year, has the touch screen issue been addressed? I had the issue on two OPO's. Very great device otherwise!
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I'm looking to jump back in with a OPO after a year, has the touch screen issue been addressed? I had the issue on two OPO's. Very great device otherwise!
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That was one of the things I was wondering: there were a lot of people having problems with the touchscreen, they apparently had a firmware fix but I still saw some reports of problems afterwards. Haven't seen any recently, but no real discussion about what was the issue, whether there were some people with hardware problems AND some people with firmware problems or if there were just firmware problems. I think I might have seen something on their forums but I honestly don't trust that place with the reports of censorship and all the fanboys dismissing problems.
EDIT: Just found this thread that describes what causes the issue. Definitely an involved process, but at least it suggests a problem other than just faulty-digitizer roulette. I hate the lengths that Oneplus goes to to try and hide this kind of thing. They could gain a lot more support if they were just transparent about their fumbles and mistakes instead of trying to sweep stuff under the rug and waiting for it to create a scandal.
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That was one of the things I was wondering: there were a lot of people having problems with the touchscreen, they apparently had a firmware fix but I still saw some reports of problems afterwards. Haven't seen any recently, but no real discussion about what was the issue, whether there were some people with hardware problems AND some people with firmware problems or if there were just firmware problems. I think I might have seen something on their forums but I honestly don't trust that place with the reports of censorship and all the fanboys dismissing problems.
EDIT: Just found this thread that describes what causes the issue. Definitely an involved process, but at least it suggests a problem other than just faulty-digitizer roulette. I hate the lengths that Oneplus goes to to try and hide this kind of thing. They could gain a lot more support if they were just transparent about their fumbles and mistakes instead of trying to sweep stuff under the rug and waiting for it to create a scandal.
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Yeah, I remember reading about that .. Hoping they fixed the issue as I'm contemplating purchasing one new from OnePlus.
Just wanted to follow-up on my post from yesterday, OP.
I'm now on rooted stock COS12.1 - latest update, as of yesterday night. Only rooted apps I use are AdAway and TiBu (might not justify root tbh haha). But it's still not that great. The phone was definitely much smoother with Sultan's rom, with occasional hiccups. Just tried to do a raid in COC and the phone went unresponsive until I locked the screen but I had to resort to rebooting to make it actually work. It actually froze on the "rebooting" screen and I had to hard reboot.
For reference, I've had the phone since September 2015 and have been holding out for this year's Nexus but I might have to bite the bullet and pick up the 6P. My phone timeline is as follows: LG MyTouch, HTC Sensation 4G, Moto G 1st Gen, Nexus 6 and OnePlus One. Favorites have been Moto G and Nexus 6.
buy opo, leave opx....look around here on developments for both devices and u know why i say opo
Wondering if anyone else has done this? Traded their tmobile variant of international. I mean I can't complain I got this phone for free but still! Peaked over at the threads over at our sister phone and man it is packed with roms and kernels etc. Just tired of the sluggish phone. Even on stock it is sluggish.
Go xiaomi
Same here. Done with Sammy after the note 7 and now this s7 edge..
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Don't know anything about them or their phones.
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Same here. Done with Sammy after the note 7 and now this s7 edge..
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This phone is just bad man. Horrendous ram optimization even on Echo. Hot enough to cook and egg. I literally can not play Gear VR without having a fan pointing at me. I truly miss my Note 7and I regret trading in the Note 5 for a S7 Edge.
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I have had no issues with my S7e. I miss my Note 7 but there are no better phones on the market. I've tested tons, always come back to the S7e. The screen is so nice the camera is great and it's water proof.
no real complaints here with mine. I also came from the note 7 as well. The n7 definitely had a more premium feel but this phone isn't all that bad. I haven't rooted mine yet because I haven't seen any roms worth jumping to. so far package disabler pro tweaks is all I have done. I still have my note 7 and I'm not turning in until they release a deadline for a full refund but I hardly use it because the battery life is for crap compared to the s7e.
Good lord, it's just a phone. It does what it is intended to do, and does it very well. Don't like it, plenty of competition out there. Not sure what you hope to accomplish by making yet another thread complaining about lack of options. Real root/unlock is never coming to this device. Live with it or dump it for one of the tens of other good devices out there, and move on with your life.
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Wondering if anyone else has done this? Traded their tmobile variant of international. I mean I can't complain I got this phone for free but still! Peaked over at the threads over at our sister phone and man it is packed with roms and kernels etc. Just tired of the sluggish phone. Even on stock it is sluggish.
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Try flashing the G935U firmware if you haven't. It seems to run a lot better for most people since it's stripped of all the carrier bloatware. You can then manually flash the modem file from the latest T-mobile firmware to have 256qam enabled.
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Good lord, it's just a phone. It does what it is intended to do, and does it very well. Don't like it, plenty of competition out there. Not sure what you hope to accomplish by making yet another thread complaining about lack of options. Real root/unlock is never coming to this device. Live with it or dump it for one of the tens of other good devices out there, and move on with your life.
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It does NOT do what it is intended. Unfortunately I was sucker into this downgrade and I can not get another phone. Don't put words into my mouth, I never said there was a lack of options. I am merely posting this thread to anyone looking for the downsides of owning this phone. On stock, its laggy and hot. On a custom rom, it is even more laggy, hot, and if you plan on playing games on the Gear VR, expect about 10 minutes of play before it over heats. I'll take a video of it so you guys can see. There is also severe graphical tearing in Gear VR, while not constant, they happen more often than they should -_-
I'll take a video of it so you guys can see. I h ave a trusty fan next to my computer even ever it gets too hot and I need to cool it.
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Try flashing the G935U firmware if you haven't. It seems to run a lot better for most people since it's stripped of all the carrier bloatware. You can then manually flash the modem file from the latest T-mobile firmware to have 256qam enabled.
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If I am on Echoe, isn't that the same thing? Or would that firmware with root work better than Echoe?
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no real complaints here with mine. I also came from the note 7 as well. The n7 definitely had a more premium feel but this phone isn't all that bad. I haven't rooted mine yet because I haven't seen any roms worth jumping to. so far package disabler pro tweaks is all I have done. I still have my note 7 and I'm not turning in until they release a deadline for a full refund but I hardly use it because the battery life is for crap compared to the s7e.
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I hear you, maybe I should go back to stock then.
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I have had no issues with my S7e. I miss my Note 7 but there are no better phones on the market. I've tested tons, always come back to the S7e. The screen is so nice the camera is great and it's water proof.
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Part of the reason why I went with the S7 E. I got pampered by my Note 5 and it's discontinuation really threw me off.
I got another S7 E on top of my closet sealed that Tmobile gave me. Not sure if to turn it around and sell it or wait to see if Sammy comes out with any special promotion on a trade in.
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If I am on Echoe, isn't that the same thing? Or would that firmware with root work better than Echoe?
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I'm not rooted. My understanding is that the only root solutions on the Snapdragon edition require you to use an engineering kernel with poor performance. I'm happy just using Adaway with the stock Samsung browser and I can just live without the rest of the root 'benefits'.
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It does NOT do what it is intended. Unfortunately I was sucker into this downgrade and I can not get another phone. Don't put words into my mouth, I never said there was a lack of options. I am merely posting this thread to anyone looking for the downsides of owning this phone. On stock, its laggy and hot. On a custom rom, it is even more laggy, hot, and if you plan on playing games on the Gear VR, expect about 10 minutes of play before it over heats. I'll take a video of it so you guys can see. There is also severe graphical tearing in Gear VR, while not constant, they happen more often than they should -_-
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Here's the thing nobody is looking for the downsides of owning this phone. You're looking for people to confirm your opinion and nothing more. Let me be clear, the problems you are having with your phone as you've described are limited to your device. Perhaps you got a bum device. It happens, I did replace mine under warranty for a hardware fault in the AOD and edge clock displays. Perhaps you loaded up your phone with so much garbage that it simply chokes on everything you have running in the background. I don't know and will not claim to know. The root lag and heat are well known issues due to the engineering bootloader. This is explained in the rooting threads here. You went ahead and rooted it knowing this, don't be surprised that you are experiencing issues that are clearly stated will happen if you root.
I have the gear VR as well and the few times I played games on it I had no heat issues or screen tearing issues. None. My phone is stock and exhibits no noticeable lag or heat. I can get 4-5 hours of screen time easily with room to spare. Now, I rarely play games, screen time is work related, but I have never experienced excessive heat when playing high-end games either. Of course I don't use facebook, twitter, instagram, snapchat, and whatever other garbage you kids do nowadays.
So my point stands. Don't like this device, get another one. Get one that is easily rootable, get one with stock Android, or whatever you want. But understand that the problems you are having are either the fault of your specific device or your fault. If it's the former, a new device will help. If it's the latter, you should address the underlying issues before screaming about how bad this phone is. But there is no systematic problem in the GS7 line.
Whoa so much tension here. I've had 2 S7 edges and both exhibited some lag here or there. The biggest problem I had with the phone is the inconsistency in its performance and smoothness. With that said, I'm hoping Samsung will do a better job with optimizing Nougat.
this is insane. OP is throwing a fit about his phone being hot and laggy when he has it ROOTED. jesus christ man. this phone isn't laggy or hot, you're just using the wrong kernel for your phone. eng kernel isnt made for performance. it's made for engineering. unroot your phone and/or flash U firmware and stop being an ignorant crybaby.
ON QC S7/E, ROOTING CAUSES LAG AND OVERHEAT ISSUES. THERE IS NO FIX.
this phone isn't meant to be rooted. which means it's perfect for people like OP. because you obviously can't follow instructions or advice from all the root guides and threads on here. you just ignore all warnings and then make a thread to whine about your malfunctioning phone when it starts doing the things you were warned it would do.
sputnik767 said:
Here's the thing nobody is looking for the downsides of owning this phone. You're looking for people to confirm your opinion and nothing more. Let me be clear, the problems you are having with your phone as you've described are limited to your device. Perhaps you got a bum device. It happens, I did replace mine under warranty for a hardware fault in the AOD and edge clock displays. Perhaps you loaded up your phone with so much garbage that it simply chokes on everything you have running in the background. I don't know and will not claim to know. The root lag and heat are well known issues due to the engineering bootloader. This is explained in the rooting threads here. You went ahead and rooted it knowing this, don't be surprised that you are experiencing issues that are clearly stated will happen if you root.
I have the gear VR as well and the few times I played games on it I had no heat issues or screen tearing issues. None. My phone is stock and exhibits no noticeable lag or heat. I can get 4-5 hours of screen time easily with room to spare. Now, I rarely play games, screen time is work related, but I have never experienced excessive heat when playing high-end games either. Of course I don't use facebook, twitter, instagram, snapchat, and whatever other garbage you kids do nowadays.
So my point stands. Don't like this device, get another one. Get one that is easily rootable, get one with stock Android, or whatever you want. But understand that the problems you are having are either the fault of your specific device or your fault. If it's the former, a new device will help. If it's the latter, you should address the underlying issues before screaming about how bad this phone is. But there is no systematic problem in the GS7 line.
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You must be a sad little man or kid) to try and belittle someone else's opinion that does not agree with you loving the device. Sadly I was looking at the downside of owning this phone but I didn;t look deep enough. Why would you Pros and not the Cons. You buy a brand new Ford and it breaks on your before you even reached 50k mile but had you looked into the cons of that make a model you would know NOT TO FREAKING BUY IT. I wish I had someone post a negative review of the phone itself so I could of avoided buying it, twice.
As for your solution, as if giving up said phone for way less than what one bought it for it is not much of an option unless I want to take a loss. As far as you not having heat issues, I always have it and have seen others have similar issues. So you rarely play games yet you can sit there and tell me with absolute certainty that the phone does not over heat... right very reassuring. Remind yourself never to review phones. I do use facebook, but not that app, just the web browser. And I assure you, I am no kid, your attempt to insult falls very.... very short, much like your intelligence. As far as the phone not having a systematic problem, I can go on a dozens threads here on this site alone and even review sites and even youtube videos that say the very exact opposite of you. And again, this belittling thing your doing, either you have WAY too much time on your hands and are constantly looking for an opportunity to try and appear higher than others by belittling or you... are just a sad man or kid. Case in point, don't like my thread, don't comment. And I would advise against trying to belittle anyone else, whether done here or in your actual life.
My opinion, don't like my thread, don't post in it.
xVermicide said:
this is insane. OP is throwing a fit about his phone being hot and laggy when he has it ROOTED. jesus christ man. this phone isn't laggy or hot, you're just using the wrong kernel for your phone. eng kernel isnt made for performance. it's made for engineering. unroot your phone and/or flash U firmware and stop being an ignorant crybaby.
ON QC S7/E, ROOTING CAUSES LAG AND OVERHEAT ISSUES. THERE IS NO FIX.
this phone isn't meant to be rooted. which means it's perfect for people like OP. because you obviously can't follow instructions or advice from all the root guides and threads on here. you just ignore all warnings and then make a thread to whine about your malfunctioning phone when it starts doing the things you were warned it would do.
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You miss the part that I had this issue even when I had it stocked. Should I direct you to the many threads, reviews sites, and youtube, not to mention the other posters who said the same thing? Either contribute or don't post in my thread as I mentioned before. You may fine nothing wrong with this device, rooted or not, I have had this phone constantly overheat, while stocked, and while rooted. Get over it your shock of me throwing a fit on a 800 dollar phone.
ahskeetz said:
Whoa so much tension here. I've had 2 S7 edges and both exhibited some lag here or there. The biggest problem I had with the phone is the inconsistency in its performance and smoothness. With that said, I'm hoping Samsung will do a better job with optimizing Nougat.
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Agreed
I got another S7 E on top of my closet sealed that Tmobile gave me. Not sure if to turn it around and sell it or wait to see if Sammy comes out with any special promotion on a trade in.[/QUOTE]
Trade it in on what? Black Friday is on the horizon so what ever deals there are will be made then.
F9zSlavik said:
You must be a sad little man or kid) to try and belittle someone else's opinion that does not agree with you loving the device. Sadly I was looking at the downside of owning this phone but I didn;t look deep enough. Why would you Pros and not the Cons. You buy a brand new Ford and it breaks on your before you even reached 50k mile but had you looked into the cons of that make a model you would know NOT TO FREAKING BUY IT. I wish I had someone post a negative review of the phone itself so I could of avoided buying it, twice.
As for your solution, as if giving up said phone for way less than what one bought it for it is not much of an option unless I want to take a loss. As far as you not having heat issues, I always have it and have seen others have similar issues. So you rarely play games yet you can sit there and tell me with absolute certainty that the phone does not over heat... right very reassuring. Remind yourself never to review phones. I do use facebook, but not that app, just the web browser. And I assure you, I am no kid, your attempt to insult falls very.... very short, much like your intelligence. As far as the phone not having a systematic problem, I can go on a dozens threads here on this site alone and even review sites and even youtube videos that say the very exact opposite of you. And again, this belittling thing your doing, either you have WAY too much time on your hands and are constantly looking for an opportunity to try and appear higher than others by belittling or you... are just a sad man or kid. Case in point, don't like my thread, don't comment. And I would advise against trying to belittle anyone else, whether done here or in your actual life.
My opinion, don't like my thread, don't post in it.
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There was no belittling on my part in anything I said, unlike your post. If you found it, you must have looked for it very hard and are overly sensitive when someone disagrees with you. Like I said, I have no issues with heat, battery, gear vr, or anything else. Whether I play games or otherwise. I suggested that your phone is bad or something you're doing is causing it. Sorry you don't like my suggestions, but it is what it is. Like is said, move on to a different device and hopefully you'll be happy with your choice. I know at least 3 other people with the gs7e that have none of your issues, as well as plenty of Internet reviews that state the same.
Lag fixed on the Nougat beta. Also has a few features I used to root for that are baked in now. Only thing missing is V4A and system wide add blocking.