http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fuTCuRkJLI
In my opinion, this is the biggest issue currently plaguing the nexus one... If I wasn’t stuck with tmobile/tzones, I would switch to a droid (verizon) or capitivate (att) in an instant because this problem seriously kills the usability of the product. Im not talking about the lack of true multitouch (crossing axis, 3 finger, etc) cause I know that’s a non issues unless you play one of the 5 games in marketplace that require true multitouch. This is different... It is very annoying when you are halfway through typing a sentence and suddenly your “t” registers as a “v” or your “m” registers as “home”, etc.... Im keeping my nexus because there are other factors that make it the better overall phone for me but I really think some of you fanboys need to open your eyes and realize there is (are) huge flaws with out beloved dev phone.
I don't recall seeing anyone post that the nexus was the best phone because it had no issues at all.
when this happens to me I just lock and unlock the phone and the issue is gone.
What I don't understand is that in the title you say it's a deal-breaker and in your post you say you're keeping the phone. So which is it?
Also, you're about five months late in *****ing about this issue.
And rather than come here and calling us all fanboys, maybe you should take a look in the mirror at the idiot who bought a device with an issue that bothers him so much.
Really though, you just made a fool of yourself for everyone to see.
Fanboi out.
this post was directed at the blind fanboys who go into the other threads and act like this is a non issue... it is not.
any phone i buy is going to have some glaring flaw... i think it is impossible to have a perfect phone. i am just identifying this as the nexus ones #1 flaw.
As Old MuckenMire stated, you are BY FAR not the first person to whine about this. It's an old issue, and I'm pretty sure it has to do with the hardware. These "fanbois" have probably accepted it as a non-issue because there is no fix.
BTW, the Galaxy S is available on T-Mo as the Vibrant.
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As Old MuckenMire stated, you are BY FAR not the first person to whine about this. It's an old issue, and I'm pretty sure it has to do with the hardware. These "fanbois" have probably accepted it as a non-issue because there is no fix.
BTW, the Galaxy S is available on T-Mo as the Vibrant.
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i personally think that this issue is MUCH worse than lack of true multitouch, but every week we get a thread about multitouch when i think thats the true non issue
galaxy s does not work with tzones
It's all down to opinion.
Should it have been fixed before even shipping the device? **** yes.
Do I really care? No.
The truth is, it's only as big a deal as you make it.
This issue doesn't happen to me very often, like 3 times a week? All I have to do is just lock and unlock the screen.
Mhmm. Simple. Maybe a little annoying, but nothing too infuriating.
exactly, this happens to me about 3 times a week, sometimes less. to fix it you just lock the screen and the issue is gone. i'm not saying its a non-issue. i'm just saying its not the end of the world and certainly isnt a "deal breaker" like the title of this thread. every phone has their stupid quirks. look at the galaxy s, the gps doesnt barely work. the evo has 30 fps cap (which is a way worse issue than nexus touch), on and on. each device has some issue or another.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fuTCuRkJLI
In my opinion, this is the biggest issue currently plaguing the nexus one... If I wasn’t stuck with tmobile/tzones, I would switch to a droid (verizon) or capitivate (att) in an instant because this problem seriously kills the usability of the product. Im not talking about the lack of true multitouch (crossing axis, 3 finger, etc) cause I know that’s a non issues unless you play one of the 5 games in marketplace that require true multitouch. This is different... It is very annoying when you are halfway through typing a sentence and suddenly your “t” registers as a “v” or your “m” registers as “home”, etc.... Im keeping my nexus because there are other factors that make it the better overall phone for me but I really think some of you fanboys need to open your eyes and realize there is (are) huge flaws with out beloved dev phone.
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Use Swype or Swift Key.
Swype is the worst when you have this issue. No words will work until you lock/unlock the screen.
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Swype is the worst when you have this issue. No words will work until you lock/unlock the screen.
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You know this touch screen issue with the wrong letters being registered, I used to have this problem about 2-3 times a day. Then when froyo came out, it was like twice a month. Now ever since I flashed Cyanogen 6, I have yet to see it. Don't know how or why...I'm just thankful
Very nice
This issue seems to be a thousand times worse if the phone's been getting hot from sitting in the car dock. EVERY time I pull it out of there after it's been there for more than 10 minutes or so, the phone's so hot that it's painful to touch it, and the touch screen's really flaky even after locking and unlocking, unless i let it cool down first.
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This issue seems to be a thousand times worse if the phone's been getting hot from sitting in the car dock. EVERY time I pull it out of there after it's been there for more than 10 minutes or so, the phone's so hot that it's painful to touch it, and the touch screen's really flaky even after locking and unlocking, unless i let it cool down first.
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Uhhhhh your device should NEVER get that hot.
Hmmm, this happened a few times right after I got my N1 in March but I don't think it has happened since.
Sorry, total non-issue for me.
fubaya said:
Hmmm, this happened a few times right after I got my N1 in March but I don't think it has happened since.
Sorry, total non-issue for me.
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this is the point of this thread, maybe we can isolate what causes it... and do HTC/googles QA
norazi said:
this post was directed at the blind fanboys who go into the other threads and act like this is a non issue... it is not.
any phone i buy is going to have some glaring flaw... i think it is impossible to have a perfect phone. i am just identifying this as the nexus ones #1 flaw.
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Be that as it may, I have yet to ever experience this issue. Can you tell me how I can try to recreate it?
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So I'm going to be straight up with you guys... I (like many of you) have and many smartphones in the past. My last phone before the N1 was a iPhone 3G unlocked/jailbroken.
I loved the iPhone, however like most people I was fed up with not having background apps, Google Voice, and I really hate getting notifications on the iPhone... Yeah I jailbroke it so I could run apps in the background and get google voice, but it was still lacking. BUT it DID work, and worked so well than I rarely had to reset/reboot it. Also, the chance that an app you download will work is in the 99th percentile unlike Android apps.
BUT, I do love the N1... However I DO feel like every time I jump online and check out some of the websites (engadget, gizmodo, BRG, etc) I'm going to run across a new article putting shame on the N1... Today was one of those days regarding multitouch..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhUzq6bTPg&feature=player_embedded
other issues I have with the phone (STOCK ROM not unlocked) are:
-PDAnet won't work when I'm on a phone call, it seems like the phone drops to GPRS every fricken time! I've wiped my phone and ONLY installed PDA net to test it even
-Memory managment = with a iPhone you realistically never have to worry about memory regarding programs downloaded, Google needs to allow apps to SD card OUT OF THE BOX.
-Overall stability = I figure I have to reboot/reset my phone at least every other day due to it hanging up on something or just acting outright odd.. In my photo gallery it won't pull up some of my photos in full resolution, WTF~comon...
-Overall radio power = this phone just seems to suck ass with regards to getting a signal whether it's 3G or EDGE compared to most other phones.
So I'm hoping/thinking that the DESIRE might have some of these issues fixed. I'm really keeping an eye on it to see what transpires. So who's thinking the same???
I don't have my N1 yet, but if I don't have any issues - then I see no reason to ever switch to the Desire. I will, however, install the Desire ROM on my N1. So, I will have a NexusDesireOne lol. Everything on the Nexus One, plus Desire's Sense ~ that is good enough for me.
Given that I don't share any of your complaints, I don't care about the optical trackpad, and I very much like having 3G, I see no reason to switch to a Desire when it becomes available, especially since I'll be able to run its full ROM when it comes out (and the beta now).
Per your first point, for all of the bad press the Nexus One has received, I have not read a single bit of it that impacts my experience with the device. I was taken care of promptly when I called HTC to have my stock sleeve replaced, a radio update found here fixed my reception issues, my multitouch seems to be working just fine even if some developer found a way to make it look inferior to the Droid's implementation of it, and I could care less how many units Google moved.
The bottom line is what the phone does for YOU, and in my specific situation, it may very well be the best phone I've ever had.
I feel the same way, but it doesn't get around the multitouch issue and horrible radio signal issues.
I tell yeah, the one thing I was deathly scared of when I moved to the iPhone was typing on a touchscreen. But the iPhone keyboard rocks! To put it bluntly, the N1's keyboard is such garbage it's basically what I was expecting the iPhone to be like.
I think it's due to the lower quality touchscreen personally... I mean I see keys/letters getting pressed from the other side of the screen a LOT if I type fast...
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it may very well be the best phone I've ever had.
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I feel the same way, but it doesn't get around the multitouch issue and horrible radio signal issues.
I tell yeah, the one thing I was deathly scared of when I moved to the iPhone was typing on a touchscreen. But the iPhone keyboard rocks! To put it bluntly, the N1's keyboard is such garbage it's basically what I was expecting the iPhone to be like.
I think it's due to the lower quality touchscreen personally... I mean I see keys/letters getting pressed from the other side of the screen a LOT if I type fast...
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I don;t have any of the problems you have.
My radio is workig fine.
I like the capacitive buttons on the N1. The Desire has a little more RAM which with my Cyanogen Kernel I don't think any more RAM is necesary. It's already overkill stock. Then throw Cyanogen on top of it and it's ridiculous how many apps I can have running. I had 49 apps running yesterday...that's retarded lol.
It has Sense UI which is nice but it's just software and can be built for the N1...Obviously.
Flash will be ready for N1 very very soon as mentioned by Adobe.
So there isn't really any reason to trade honestly.
People still complain about the radio issues but they fixed it when they released ERE27. I think people have munchausen syndrome. People have nothing to compare to, just complain. I have an N1, my cousin has an N1. My wife has my old MyTouch and I just sold my G1. I drove around Dallas, Texas with all three phones. No signal difference in the three. N1 dropped to Edge when the MyTouch did.
People don't understand that 3G coverage doesn't mean you're covered 100%, It means it's available in that area. If you lose signal then you get Edge.
What the hell for? It's the same hardware. I've got Sense on my N1 already. Plus, hardware buttons? Hideous. The only thing it has over the N1 is the trackpad, but that's all, not to mention that it lacks noise cancellation.
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Also, the chance that an app you download will work is in the 99th percentile unlike Android apps.
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All the apps I've ever downloaded work fine and do what they say on the tin.
BUT, I do love the N1... However I DO feel like every time I jump online and check out some of the websites (engadget, gizmodo, BRG, etc) I'm going to run across a new article putting shame on the N1... Today was one of those days regarding multitouch..
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And most of those are Apple fanboy sites. Particularly Gizmoduh and Boy Genius Retard. Your point?
-Memory managment = with a iPhone you realistically never have to worry about memory regarding programs downloaded, Google needs to allow apps to SD card OUT OF THE BOX.
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Cute, but if you jailbroke your iPhone I'm sure you wouldn't have qualms over rooting your Nexus. Apps2sd, the end.
-Overall stability = I figure I have to reboot/reset my phone at least every other day due to it hanging up on something or just acting outright odd.. In my photo gallery it won't pull up some of my photos in full resolution, WTF~comon...
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Huh? The only times I've had to reboot mine is when I'm flashing a new ROM and need to boot into recovery or whatever. Sounds like you're doing something fantastically wrong.
-Overall radio power = this phone just seems to suck ass with regards to getting a signal whether it's 3G or EDGE compared to most other phones.
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Flash ERE38 radio image. Done.
I think it's pretty funny reading the "outrage" of the multitouch thing.
uum, I've yet to even notice anything wrong.
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It's the same hardware.
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Not the same. It's similar. It has 64mb more RAM. Which I already stated my opinion on that a few posts prior to this one.
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I like the capacitive buttons on the N1.
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I prefer them to actual buttons.
At least thy can't wear out.
The buttons on my G1 were almost un-recognizable after 6 months.
tropmonky said:
I feel the same way, but it doesn't get around the multitouch issue and horrible radio signal issues.
I tell yeah, the one thing I was deathly scared of when I moved to the iPhone was typing on a touchscreen. But the iPhone keyboard rocks! To put it bluntly, the N1's keyboard is such garbage it's basically what I was expecting the iPhone to be like.
I think it's due to the lower quality touchscreen personally... I mean I see keys/letters getting pressed from the other side of the screen a LOT if I type fast...
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Please explain your "MultiTouch" issue because I have absolutely none. It's 100% responsive to everything I do with an instant response time. What are you trying to do with it?
tropmonky said:
I feel the same way, but it doesn't get around the multitouch issue and horrible radio signal issues.
I tell yeah, the one thing I was deathly scared of when I moved to the iPhone was typing on a touchscreen. But the iPhone keyboard rocks! To put it bluntly, the N1's keyboard is such garbage it's basically what I was expecting the iPhone to be like.
I think it's due to the lower quality touchscreen personally... I mean I see keys/letters getting pressed from the other side of the screen a LOT if I type fast...
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So... use Swype?
Tropmonky is sounding more and more like a stray Apple fanboy
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What other phones HAVE you had?
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The one's that have mattered in the past few years start with the N95 (almost all versions of them), almost every high-end Symbian device to come out like the N97, i8910, etc., all three iPhone variants, and a few others in between.
With the exception of the lack of multimedia capabilities, the Nexus One has been my favorite. The i8910 was a close second specifically because of its multimedia capabilities.
i would not swap my N1. the desire lacks the noise cancelling mic. it has more ram but thats because it needs it to run sense ui. the nexus works perfectly and as someoo]ne mentioned above, every one of those sites u mentioned is a totally biased apple fanboi site- esp. engadget- i have lost all respect of them only reporting half a story and putting pro apple spins on everything.
i have perfect reception. as for MT i am not sure whatt the problem is- works perfectly for me.
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That's what I thought from the start. Whatever problems your average Nexus may have, having to reboot/reset constantly isn't one of them. ***** please, it's a *nix-based OS. Not saying everything Linux/*nix is a gift from god--I use Windows myself, being a gamer, and enjoy Win7 just fine--but Android is pretty damn stable. It's not a BB, here.
The Multitouch issue is a bug in the Sensor or driver that gives wrong positions under certain conditions. It seems to be a bug in all N1. It's not such a big deal if you don't play certain games but it's a bit annoying to know that it is there. The unfortunate thing is that I'm 100% sure that the Desire would have the same Screen with the same sensors and therefore the same bug.
The other things aren't such a big deal for me, or I never had any problems with it.
A lot of people complain about the reception, but coming from a blackberry bold, ERE27 is great. We have a tin roof, and no one could call me when i was at home on my BB.
I might do it if the 3G issue is not fixed. But so far google is being to send out replacements..
If I have a stock N1 can I flash the ERE38 without rooting?
I really like the hardware of the SGS, but man.. I've never used a phone so buggy.
1) GPS Problems
2) Lag problems
3) Freezes anytime signal is weak
4) Freezes when it feels like.
5) Four times I've lost all my data thanks to pulling the battery during a freeze
6) Build quality problems (as detailed from Paul @ Modaco)
It freezes for me fairly regularly. This is my second SGS. My first SGS froze constantly so I exchanged that, my new one only freezes a couple times a week. Today it froze and as usual I did the hold power button till it reboots...and it locks on reboot. Data corruption. yay. Fourth. ****ing. time.
I've had this phone 2 weeks and this is the 4th time I've had to start from scratch due to data corruption.
I'm going to flash a newer firmware on this and sell it. I love Android, but this phone is a ridiculous amount of grief.
I guess I'm just lucky, but I've had none of these problems other than the GPS which isn't very accurate.
Changing the software settings for this makes it usable, though not yet perfect.
I've yet to experience any lag and I've not experienced a lock up.
I've had none of theses issues either, aside from the GPS. My GPS works ok if im stopped but doesnt track so well if im moving.
Love mine. I have captivate. Honestly never seen the first hint of lag and the GPS will soon be fixed. I can say that I am pretty happy with it all and all.
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really !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Love mine. I have captivate. Honestly never seen the first hint of lag and the GPS will soon be fixed. I can say that I am pretty happy with it all and all.
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i really find it hard to believe that you "have never seen first hint of lag"
i have a galaxy S, love the hardware, but Samsung has shown us how software can destroy even the mightiest of hardware
Gps issues yes, no other issues I'd call deal breaking by anymeans. 2 phones, same big issues....what have you been installing on it I wonder?
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I really like the hardware of the SGS, but man.. I've never used a phone so buggy.
1) GPS Problems
2) Lag problems
3) Freezes anytime signal is weak
4) Freezes when it feels like.
5) Four times I've lost all my data thanks to pulling the battery during a freeze
6) Build quality problems (as detailed from Paul @ Modaco)
It freezes for me fairly regularly. This is my second SGS. My first SGS froze constantly so I exchanged that, my new one only freezes a couple times a week. Today it froze and as usual I did the hold power button till it reboots...and it locks on reboot. Data corruption. yay. Fourth. ****ing. time.
I've had this phone 2 weeks and this is the 4th time I've had to start from scratch due to data corruption.
I'm going to flash a newer firmware on this and sell it. I love Android, but this phone is a ridiculous amount of grief.
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You sure we bought the same phone?
My GPS locks on after ~20 seconds and then there is no problems after that. I have not experienced one freeze (including this 'Freezes when signal is weak' -- which I think is absolute bull since my girlfriend's room is in the basement and I do not get a signal down there yet my phone performs perfectly fine), build quality is fine -- it's more durable than you think, and I haven't really experienced any lag.
Are you actually using the phone or are you just going by what forums/people say?
standards
Bynar010 said:
Gps issues yes, no other issues I'd call deal breaking by anymeans. 2 phones, same big issues....what have you been installing on it I wonder?
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no offense, but it all has to do with standards a person is used to.
if you're coming from windows mobile, the lags you experience when using SGS are okay
if you're coming from iphone, SGS lags like a *****. Aside from the open OS/closed OS debate, the fluidity and smoothness of iphone 3gs UI and the instant response you get when you click on an icon/app puts the SGS to shame. sometimes i had to wait for 5 seconds to get a response after i clicked an icon. this never happened with the 3GS no matter how big the app is
I had a 3GS, sold it and bought an SGS, and i know how both telephones handle
Edit: the above post refers to bell I9000, i have the regular I9000. I dont know if there is ahardware difference or samsung has rectified what they did wrong in the regular I900
What build quality issues? The other issues have been well documented and are fixable with some reasonable effort. The GPS fix is just around the corner.
I understand *****ing about other stuff but build quality? Its great imo. Just because the phone has a plastic back cover doesn't mean the quality is bad.
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no offense, but it all has to do with standards a person is used to.
if you're coming from windows mobile, the lags you experience when using SGS are okay
if you're coming from iphone, SGS lags like a *****. Aside from the open OS/closed OS debate, the fluidity and smoothness of iphone 3gs UI and the instant response you get when you click on an icon/app puts the SGS to shame. sometimes i had to wait for 5 seconds to get a response after i clicked an icon. this never happened with the 3GS no matter how big the app is
I had a 3GS, sold it and bought an SGS, and i know how both telephones handle
Edit: the above post refers to bell I9000, i have the regular I9000. I dont know if there is ahardware difference or samsung has rectified what they did wrong in the regular I900
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You don't specify anything; you just said 'I don't know how you guys gloss over this phone's dealbreaking flaws' referring to EVERY Galaxy S. I don't have any problems, just because you do doesn't mean everyone has the exact same problems and bought the exact same version as yours.
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You sure we bought the same phone?
My GPS locks on after ~20 seconds and then there is no problems after that. I have not experienced one freeze (including this 'Freezes when signal is weak' -- which I think is absolute bull since my girlfriend's room is in the basement and I do not get a signal down there yet my phone performs perfectly fine), build quality is fine -- it's more durable than you think, and I haven't really experienced any lag.
Are you actually using the phone or are you just going by what forums/people say?
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I have the phone. I've had it since August 5th. I'm glad you project your experience onto mine implying that mine do not exist. You do not have my phone. Until you do, you are a complete ass to assume I'm making these things up.
I was in Canadian Tire the other day and checked my phone--signal between 0 and 1 bar. Within 5 minutes, it locked up. When I visit my mom, her basement has poor reception. My phone locks up routinely down there. I don't care if you haven't experienced it, many of us have.
I personally have not YET had the build quality issues, which is why I said as detailed by Paul at MCR. It's like any phone with poor build quality though... chances are it will affect most of us.
everything will be fixed in due time...
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You don't specify anything; you just said 'I don't know how you guys gloss over this phone's dealbreaking flaws' referring to EVERY Galaxy S. I don't have any problems, just because you do doesn't mean everyone has the exact same problems and bought the exact same version as yours.
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Are you on crack? That wasn't my post.
have you tried any of the fixes in the development section?
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have you tried any of the fixes in the development section?
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Such as? I was running CFLagFix; when I tried to uninstall it to update to a new version it corrupted my phone. That was one of my wipes. It didn't really help the performance anyway TBH.
Yes I don't see any lag. I mean none. And I don't use a task killer and don't news to. I get paerfect signal at my apt at school: no freeze. I get no signal at my parents house at all:no freeze. I cluck on a icon: it opens the second I click it. I'm not big on toychwiz: Launcher Pro. Its a great phone. Love it. I have the Droid x also and still don't think that the x is even comparable. My two cents.
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Are you on crack? That wasn't my post.
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Look at the title of your topic; or did you just forget that was there?
I personally have not YET had the build quality issues, which is why I said as detailed by Paul at MCR. It's like any phone with poor build quality though... chances are it will affect most of us
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Dropped my phone plenty of times and have not experienced any set backs because of it. Dropped it on it's screen, side, etc; it's a sturdy phone. Just because it has the look and kind of feel of a cheap quality doesn't always mean it is.
I don't think anyone is glossing over anything. Half the posts on this forum are about lag and gps problems.
Thing is that you can fix both problems with easy one click things, and keeping on top of your firmware.
If you are getting lag to such extremes, and on two devices, its because your clogging up the memory with too much stuff running together.
You'll have some culture shock because up until recently iOs only runs one thing at a time, and hitting home closed things. Not so for android, and particularly things like browser windows and certain widgets can just eat your ram and cause the slow down. If its happening ' when it feels like it' then that's probably your culpret.
The sgs is not without its flaws but that's no excuse to treat her bad.
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Yes I don't see any lag. I mean none. And I don't use a task killer and don't news to. I get paerfect signal at my apt at school: no freeze. I get no signal at my parents house at all:no freeze. I cluck on a icon: it opens the second I click it. I'm not big on toychwiz: Launcher Pro. Its a great phone. Love it. I have the Droid x also and still don't think that the x is even comparable. My two cents.
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Then honestly, the only explanation is that Samsung has released I9000s with different hardware versions to rectify hardware problems
This is the only reason i see to explain people not having lag problems and apps opening the second you click them. I must be one of the unlucky guys with an early hardware version
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Then honestly, the only explanation is that Samsung has released I9000s with different hardware versions to rectify hardware problems
This is the only reason i see to explain people not having lag problems and apps opening the second you click them. I must be one of the unlucky guys with an early hardware version
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http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/US-...msung-Galaxy-S-explained-article-a_12223.html
It's true; there are different versions but they are vastly different in some cases (some have hard-keyboards while others are just a case difference).
Does it affect the hardware? Maybe in some cases but there are probably other details on the web somewhere.
EDIT:
http://androidheadlines.com/2010/06/all-us-versions-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s-compared.html
The specs are almost identical in all phones except for some cameras and some storage, other than that, identical hardware wise.
just doesn't quite say it.
Like I've said in my previous posts, when it comes to samsung supporting ANY of their phones, well you don't get any. They make buggy phones which have problems after a few days of use, and then instead of recalling or updating kernels/roms, they just totally ignore the customers and run off with the money. The "legal" alternative of scamming.
And they have done the same with samsung epic.
http://www.talkandroid.com/13036-samsung-epic-already-having-issues-on-launch-day/
It's not the issues per say, but it's the fact that they KNEW about the issue, and ignored it. I know evo had some issues from the start as well, but this was usually do to a bad batch and htc didn't know about this until mass release. BUT samsung knew about this issue before they even released the phone.
tl;dr: samsung is a crap company when it comes to phones, they don't support their products, and will screw you over when they get the chance.
wrong forum buddy.
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wrong forum buddy.
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I'm sure he meant to post that here since the Epic is supposed to be a competitor to the Evo.
Either way: I love my Evo and I wouldn't trade it for the Epic. I don't like Samsung's UI.
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wrong forum buddy.
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no, not really. People are comparing evo to samsung epic, and to me it seems like a right forum to warn everyone about the problems with the epic. I had a chance yesterday to trade my evo for a samsung + 25$. I was thinking about it since my evo has a broken 4g, and the only reason i thought about it was the processor speeds, but after reading that article upon many others, I was re-assured that I will never buy another samsung phone.
my favorite are all the posts of people saying "i bought the phone an hour ago it pwns it is so leeet" now give them a few dys they will be the ones going back and shouting "omg this phone sucks my back button doesnt work ... wth screw you samsung".
I just have to say this....and YES the pun is intended.
EPIC Fail!
Well... I guess this isn't really any different then the screen seperation issue and the light spot on the lcd over the processor and the power button crack on Evo's. I am sure testers ran into all those problems. it is a matter of what is going to cost more; retooling and redesigning a few pieces of the phone and replacing it on 100,000 handsets, or replacing a few thousand handsets that run into the issue.
I'm sure my numbers aren't really in the ballpark, but you get my drift. Every company has to make decisions like this.
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Well... I guess this isn't really any different then the screen seperation issue and the light spot on the lcd over the processor and the power button crack on Evo's. I am sure testers ran into all those problems. it is a matter of what is going to cost more; retooling and redesigning a few pieces of the phone and replacing it on 100,000 handsets, or replacing a few thousand handsets that run into the issue.
I'm sure my numbers aren't really in the ballpark, but you get my drift. Every company has to make decisions like this.
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I don't buy in the lcd separation bs. I saw people take pictures of claiming about separation and it looks fine to me. If it was separating, then the touch screen wouldn't work as well and you would be experiencing more problems than "dust settling under the screen".
As for the hairline crack on the power button, most of the people that had it, didnt even know about it. Sprint techs probably didn't know about it as well.
Actually, this is a whole other ballpark. You could argue that the Evos were pushed out the door for launch, but Samsung released the first Galaxy S phone in the beginning of June in Europe, and every issue Epic users are running into now were discovered back then. Three months ago. Three months and no fixes for their new phone. They knowingly released a defective phone, will probably never fix it, and will move on to their next phone in January. So long suckers! Oh, and watch this space for complaints about the keyboard Oreo. The only reason this is new is because the Epic is the first Galaxy phone with a keyboard. I mean, you didn't think they'd get that working properly out of the gate, did you?
Sorry for all the FUD, but I'll probably have Gingerbread on my Evo before the Epic gets froyo.
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Actually, this is a whole other ballpark. You could argue that the Evos were pushed out the door for launch, but Samsung released the first Galaxy S phone in the beginning of June in Europe, and every issue Epic users are running into now were discovered back then. Three months ago. Three months and no fixes for their new phone. They knowingly released a defective phone, will probably never fix it, and will move on to their next phone in January. So long suckers! Oh, and watch this space for complaints about the keyboard Oreo. The only reason this is new is because the Epic is the first Galaxy phone with a keyboard. I mean, you didn't think they'd get that working properly out of the gate, did you?
Sorry for all the FUD, but I'll probably have Gingerbread on my Evo before the Epic gets froyo.
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hhahaha CLASSIC
samsung couldn't (and still can't) do flip phones right (had a couple, they would always break; switched to sanyo, i've had that sucker for >4 years and I still bring it out of the box as a backup from time to time, and everything still works on it), why would we expect them to do smart phones any better? they just do not make quality product. burn in on the screens, wow - basically one of your hot selling points is the AMOLED screen, and it has huge burn in problems in less than a month? and they are mass producing these things? no epic for me, and no samsung AMOLED for me on any phone, thanks.
love my evo. no, HTC is not perfect, not saying that at all. but they do make a better quality product than sammy any day, hands down.
Quick off-topic question. I am seriously considering the EVO. However, I need Wifi to work. Are there still issues with poor Wifi signal on the Evo or has this been resolved?
After the froyo update, I went from 2 bars on my couch sitting 20 feet from my router to full bars and I can now go into the bedroom and still get signal. I used to switch to my Diamond and use Opera Mini whenever I was in the bedroom, but that's no longer an issue. 3G signal got stronger as well.
Or was there a different wifi issue you were referring to?
Yeah, WiFi is big for me too and I noticed a while ago it seemed to be better than when I first bought the device. But I thought this was done some time ago. But yeah, WiFi is good.
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After the froyo update, I went from 2 bars on my couch sitting 20 feet from my router to full bars and I can now go into the bedroom and still get signal. I used to switch to my Diamond and use Opera Mini whenever I was in the bedroom, but that's no longer an issue. 3G signal got stronger as well.
Or was there a different wifi issue you were referring to?
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same thing, getting full bars in two rooms down. About 2 or so bars throughout the house.
After some research I went with the EVO. I have no problems with wifi throughout my house or any other issues with this phone. I came from the Samsung Moment and that phone was a nightmare, no updates to fix the known issues, they deemed it EOL after the 2.1 update. Even with a ROM rooted it was bad. I am half expecting the same with the epic.
Delete this post, I posted in the wrong forum (FAIL).
I purchased the Epic to compare it to the Evo. It really is a great phone, but I think I'm going to stick with my EVO. There were small issues I had that may have been no problems for others, but to me they were dealbreakers. The screen truly does wonders and makes the EVo appear washed out. However, the size is noticeable when compared to the EVO. They realistically could have kept the screen the same size as the EVO had they made the "SAMSUNG" on the front smaller. The email would also never update without a manual refresh, the touch screen buttons are hardly responsive. The email was a big issue to me. However, the biggest deal breaker was the battery. My battery life on the Epic was worse than the EVO. Not a huge deal since Im always near a charger. However, the battery would take hours to charge. My evo could be completely shut down and charge from 10%-100% in about an hour tops. The EPIC took several hours.
That said, the phone is incredibly snappy stock. I would love to see what developers can do with it, but I dont think I have the patience to wait. I'm a regular flashoholic on my EVO.
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y. My battery life on the Epic was worse than the EVO. Not a huge deal since Im always near a charger. However, the battery would take hours to charge. My evo could be completely shut down and charge from 10%-100% in about an hour tops. The EPIC took several hours.
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Once again I'm calling BS EVO will not fully charge in 1 hour.
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Once again I'm calling BS EVO will not fully charge in 1 hour.
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Well I don't know about one hour but my phone usually charges in about two hours.
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I have 27 more days to exchange...If not, I'm going back to WP7 which by the way is wayyyyyyy smoother.
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I have 27 more days to exchange...If not, I'm going back to WP7 which by the way is wayyyyyyy smoother.
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its not android's fault
.....its motoblur's fault...and the fact its running froyo
What exactly are you looking for or expecting in a different dual core phone? When you say smoother... do you mean in design or actual function?
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What exactly are you looking for or expecting in a different dual core phone? When you say smoother... do you mean in design or actual function?
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Judging from the video reviews of the LG 2X, the browser and overall phone seem much more fluid on the 2X. Try loading up engadget or pocketnow.com and it's annoyingly slow to browse on the Atrix. Even my 1.5 year old Ipod touch browses better than this phone. I tried Firefox, and it's a little bit better, but not my much.
Another issue: The phone freezes up sometimes opening text messages. I'm also getting error messages like "the message must contain valid recipients and content" even though I'm immediately "replying" to a message...lol
Overall feel = too much plastic.
The experience with this phone seems to vary a lot...
I've had almost no issues and everything seems to run exceptionally smooth to me. I'm coming from an iPhone 3GS and browsing is without a doubt better on the Atrix. I can scroll entire pages like engadget without it hesitating to load while my iphone is constantly having to pause for a second to make the page viewable if I scroll beyond a crawl. I've used my friends iphone 4 quite a bit as well and I'd have to say that I think the atrix works better for browsing than that as well. Definitely closer than my 3GS, but the atrix seems to handle it just a little bit better.
Texts have worked fine for me... nothing spectacular but not worse than other smartphones I've used.
Build quality definitely doesn't seem to be the same as my 3GS, but I like the design of the atrix a bit more. It's hard to beat the "solid" feel of the iphone though. I'd say the atrix is at least on par with the average smartphone, but definitely not the best.
Webtop access kit - Blurry HDMI Output
I am having a very hard time deciding to keep this phone. There are things it does so well and others are a clear miss.
The HD dock kit (with the keyboard/mouse) brings up a massive limitation on this phone when connected to a HDMI monitor. Out of 4 HDMI monitors and TVs I own, there is not one that is an exact native resolution mode that is supported by this phone. The 720p modes come close to my 720p monitors but there is no support at all for 1080 modes.
This makes the video out look like crap on these monitors, like using S-video in or something. Most of the video modes seem to be from the old VGA output connector days like 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 etc. Why?
The output quality is no where even close to what you are used to on your PC because of this. If you were lucky enough to have a monitor with a supported native resolution then mabey it would look correct. As it is, the text is painfully blurry to look at in todays crisp digital era.
Now that the desktop mode is unusable because of crappy video out mode support, major functions of this Atrix are gone.
Anyone else notice this? I thought I should post this to give others a heads up on these accessories.
I'm curious how many people having issues have rooted their device. I rooted mine the day I got it, but reversed the root after seeing some issues others are having. Root access doesn't mean much to me anyway.
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Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.
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Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.
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I went from using the captivate and i can hardly tell a difference between the two screens. The screen is the least of this phones problems anyhow.
"First on the block syndrome"
Some are happy or don't want to admit their early rush may have been too early.
Others read the specs and expectations are not met.
Still others are happy with their choice and understand being the first release may not be perfect and have the patience to wait for the inevitable upgrades and ROMS.
As for my I am usually last on the block and am rarely disappointed (except with iphone)
A hotrodded Captivate will likely be slicker than a first release Atrix despite the specs
The Atrix browses the web so much smoother than my overclocked Captivate.
When I loaded up a page on the Captivate, it wouldn't let me scroll at all until it was almost completely loaded. And when I did, it would show me some grid of blank space where there should have been website, and I would have to wait for it to load before I could see what part of the page I was on.
On the Atrix, it loads the whole webpage much better and there's hardly any lag at all with browsing and scrolling. I think your expectations are too high. Tone it down a notch and take a step away from the hardware sheet, then make your judgements.
Coming from a captivate my only complaints are the lack of the s amoled screen. At first i thought this phone had lag but now that ive been using it for awhile i notice that its the refresh rate of the display. Anytime the screen moves it gets slightly distorted. Opening apps and transitioning from screen to screen are snappy. Out of the box this phone blows the pants off my captivate. Everything just works so far.
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Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.
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I had problems with screen responsiveness when I switched to launcher pro, but after switching back to motoblur the problems went away.
I swapped my HTC Inspire for this phone, and my initial reaction was to return the Atrix. Yes the screen does feel like a dumbphone compared to my Captivate and the Inspire, but if you dig deeper you'll find it's mainly the color yellow that throws it off. It feels like a television that needs to be calibrated badly.
Voodoo sound and color helped the Captivate, maybe someone will do the same for the Atrix, before I slam it into a wall hopefully.
If you guys arent happy now then you never will be. I suggest you return your Atrix immediately and go back to whatever phone was so great before you went with the Atrix. Complaining on talk forums never accomplishes anything except to make the poster look like a whiny little *****.
I own two Captivates that are both faster than the new Atrix 4g that I just got. The Atrix is still an Awesome phone and the Dev's here are working hard to make it better for all of us. I have seen all kinds of complaints and critisism here most of which are not at all constructive.
Personally I think there are numerus places and sites for this type critisism. The name of this site is xda-developers! It is where we all come if we have a problem or need assistance or simply want to learn about a device. I enjoy coming here and interacting with everyone and having an opportunity to learn. Education is a comodity that is cherished throughout the world! The hate and critisism distract and sway people from the task at hand with developing this new product. The Mods closed down the last thread that went in this direction (and rightfully so) and suspect the same will come of this.
Sorry to offend anyone and will probably get flamed royaly but it is just my two cents worth......
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Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.
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Yes, I get this once in a while. When pressing "settings" or any of the buttons in menu screen, the touch would not register until the 2nd or 3rd try. Very annoying.
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If you guys arent happy now then you never will be. I suggest you return your Atrix immediately and go back to whatever phone was so great before you went with the Atrix. Complaining on talk forums never accomplishes anything except to make the poster look like a whiny little *****.
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Yes, we all put a gun to your head and made you read this. We also strapped your fingers to the mouse button for you to open these threads. These are feedbacks and I'm sure Moto is taking notes. Maybe other members here have solutions to some of the problem they're willing to share. You coming in here complaining about the complainers make you look like a little ***** also. lol. I bet the guy trolling about the nexus S is your best friend.
A hotrodded Captivate isn't nearly as slick as the Atrix. I have both and there is no comparison.
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the only thing that might be interesting is the samsuck galaxy s2
but i dont like samsung, its personal
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If you guys arent happy now then you never will be. I suggest you return your Atrix immediately and go back to whatever phone was so great before you went with the Atrix. Complaining on talk forums never accomplishes anything except to make the poster look like a whiny little *****.
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Thanks for being so rude. This is called feedback, and these posts have shown that others have had similar problems. I found it helpful.
Hi, I have looked through the threads but haven't found info, wanted to see what fellow Canadian owners have done in regards to the touchscreen issue. Also wanted to add this thread as to show another variant having issues, Rogers was unaware until I called them and they saw xda threads. They were helpful but unfortunately advised have to wait for LG to send an update. I have tried all of the suggestions for the other variant phones including installing SGS touchscreen booster and unfortunately nothing helped. Have the Rogers variant and was wondering if others have found a solution temporarily. Rogers hasn't received the lg keyboard update yet. Thanks all.
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Hi, I have looked through the threads but haven't found info, wanted to see what fellow Canadian owners have done in regards to the touchscreen issue. Also wanted to add this thread as to show another variant having issues, Rogers was unaware until I called them and they saw xda threads. They were helpful but unfortunately advised have to wait for LG to send an update. I have tried all of the suggestions for the other variant phones including installing SGS touchscreen booster and unfortunately nothing helped. Have the Rogers variant and was wondering if others have found a solution temporarily. Rogers hasn't received the lg keyboard update yet. Thanks all.
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I'm on Rogers, and SGS fixed my issues. All the US carriers are releasing updates as we speak, so I can only assume the Canadian carriers will follow soon. LG is getting returns because of this issue, so you can bet they will be all over a fix.
As for Rogers being unaware of the issue...that's bull. They always say that. Rogers knows.
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Thanks for the reply. Awesome to hear SGS worked for you. Did you do anything else, developer options etc? I will perform another factory reset and try again. Hope I can get it working, pain in the arse having the missing touches. Hopefully rogers does it sooner than later.
OP, there's another post for CDN models here. LINK
I am also experience pretty annoying touch screen issues, and I can't even exchange with WIND since they claim they're out of stock.
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Thanks for the reply. Awesome to hear SGS worked for you. Did you do anything else, developer options etc? I will perform another factory reset and try again. Hope I can get it working, pain in the arse having the missing touches. Hopefully rogers does it sooner than later.
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I didn't change anything in my developer options (other than disabling all animations). My Touchscreen issues weren't bad to begin with, and I DO NOT use the stock keyboard. Both of those are most likely why SGS helped me.
Thx for the info guys, I will read through the cdn section and start using swift key with sgs.
I think this whole issue is overrated. Yes, I get the occasional miss but so what? Same thing has happened with every smart phone I've owned. Maybe I didn't tap hard enough, maybe I did. But why does the occasional miss get people's knickers in such knots. It has virtually no effect on the user experience with this great phone.
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I think this whole issue is overrated. Yes, I get the occasional miss but so what? Same thing has happened with every smart phone I've owned. Maybe I didn't tap hard enough, maybe I did. But why does the occasional miss get people's knickers in such knots. It has virtually no effect on the user experience with this great phone.
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I wouldn't say that. You might not be getting the issue as others are. Apparently it's pretty bad with some phones.
If you didn't know, the LG G2 had a huge issue with its touchscreen where the top portion of the screen stopped working, edge to edge, so people couldn't tap on anything in that portion of the screen.
The G3 also had its issues and now G4. LG clearly needs to change their touchscreen/digitizers and use someone else's if they're incapable of reliability.
Anyways, I was coming here to start a new thread and ask if someone tried the version from Wind to see if it has the touchscreen issue before I buy the phone. Thank you to the person who mentioned it !!
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I think this whole issue is overrated. Yes, I get the occasional miss but so what? Same thing has happened with every smart phone I've owned. Maybe I didn't tap hard enough, maybe I did. But why does the occasional miss get people's knickers in such knots. It has virtually no effect on the user experience with this great phone.
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It might not be too apparent for other people, but on mine it's been getting worse. Someone mentioned before that it actually seems issues get worse as the phone gets hotter.
Not sure how much of that is true, but it kills the experience for me.
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I wouldn't say that. You might not be getting the issue as others are. Apparently it's pretty bad with some phones.
If you didn't know, the LG G2 had a huge issue with its touchscreen where the top portion of the screen stopped working, edge to edge, so people couldn't tap on anything in that portion of the screen.
The G3 also had its issues and now G4. LG clearly needs to change their touchscreen/digitizers and use someone else's if they're incapable of reliability.
Anyways, I was coming here to start a new thread and ask if someone tried the version from Wind to see if it has the touchscreen issue before I buy the phone. Thank you to the person who mentioned it !!
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I have WIND one, and the issue is there.
It started off being hardly noticed now and could seem to be my mistake. Now it's much worse and every other swipe registers as a type, taps are missing around 50 - 60%. Can't get it exchanged either since WIND claims their sold out of G4's in the GTA region, with an exception of one return for an S6.
Not entirely sure I will keep my G4 as much as I love it.
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It might not be too apparent for other people, but on mine it's been getting worse. Someone mentioned before that it actually seems issues get worse as the phone gets hotter.
Not sure how much of that is true, but it kills the experience for me.
I have WIND one, and the issue is there.
It started off being hardly noticed now and could seem to be my mistake. Now it's much worse and every other swipe registers as a type, taps are missing around 50 - 60%. Can't get it exchanged either since WIND claims their sold out of G4's in the GTA region, with an exception of one return for an S6.
Not entirely sure I will keep my G4 as much as I love it.
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I think going for the S6 is the best choice. I'm considering the 3 phones, M9, g4, s6. S6 seems to be the least buggy, as usual. M9 has its hardware issues or I'd get it.
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I think going for the S6 is the best choice. I'm considering the 3 phones, M9, g4, s6. S6 seems to be the least buggy, as usual. M9 has its hardware issues or I'd get it.
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Honestly every phone has it's quirks, by no means will your S6 have no chance of issues. You can check out the S6 forum on XDA for more info.
Even with that being said, this LG G4 touch screen issue seems pretty big IMO in comparison to the number of issues on the S6.
Apart from Touchscreen issues, are you guys getting the Wi-fi issue?
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Apart from Touchscreen issues, are you guys getting the Wi-fi issue?
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I am. I find it pretty weak. The phone is useless with using Dnset app.
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Check the S6 forums at Android Central. The S6 is a train wreck of issues compared to the G4.
Overheating, dead gyroscope, lagging, front camera purple dots, horrid battery life....
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Check the S6 forums at Android Central. The S6 is a train wreck of issues compared to the G4.
Overheating, dead gyroscope, lagging, front camera purple dots, horrid battery life....
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To be fair, some of those aren't real issues that ONLY affect the S6.
"Overheating" seems like almost a loose term as people complain about their phones getting hot, but it happens to nearly every android phone.
Lagging "issue" seems to be something people will always complain about with every new phone for some reason, heck there's even post about it here.
"Horrid battery life" isn't really that bad. Yes the G4 is better, but even then people still complain about having a issues with it.
I still think having touch screen issues is the worse, especially since the updates for the US seemed to have fixed it for some while others are still plagued by it.
It leaves me in a state indecisiveness where I love this phone and want to believe it can be fixed via software or I should just cut my losses and exchange to an S6 while I can.
I agree with you. Overheating is going to be an issue for any high end phone going forward, because processors keep getting more powerful (with no active cooling), and phones keep getting thinner. Overheating is also subjective. Most people feel their phone getting warm and assume it's overheating. If it doesn't warn you and start throttling, it's not overheating.
Battery life is totally subjective as no two users are the same. Screen on time is the worst way to measure battery life. Someone surfing the net is going to get a lot more screen on time than someone gaming and watching 4k videos.
LG G4 Touch screen issue is present in Canada as well
I am reposting my reply on this Canadian thread:
To all Canadian LG G4 buyers, the touch screen problem is alive and present in Canada as well. I bought a Wind Mobile LG G4, everything was fine at first but once I plugged it into the charger, it started to to miss touches and being unresponsive (the touches won’t register on the first try) the good test is when you double tap to wake or sleep OR when you go to phone’s setting and touch “about phone” or something else and it misses the first touch. It SHOULD NOT miss any touches, period. I put it next it to my LG G3 and on my LG G3 double tap to wake and sleep worked every time and no missed touches in the phone setting either, when it was plugged into the charger.. but it didn’t work on LG G4 which is unacceptable for $700 phone, once again it only happens when you PLUGGED IT in to the charger, if its disconnected it works fine. I returned that phone