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For the European version, ATT, and VZW versions of this Galaxy Tablet because i don't know what the heck I'm looking at in the Development section anymore. Everything is SO clustered. I have a VZW Tab and trying to find anything in that DEV section is almost impossible. Anyone else agree???
Agreed.
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Not the easiest forum to follow for specific tabs/regions.
I agree with this also.
i agree also... there isnt to much development goin on for the vzw tab.. i own a vzw tab my self. but we should have separate sections... hopefully they make it happen both development and a devoted vzw tab section.
You think you have got it hard, I'm confused as hell since I have an Asian Tab. Fffffuuuu. I'm guessing it's similar/identical to the Euro one but I'm not sure, so I haven't really tried flashing anything so far.
I agree as well, maybe with subsections for questions, ROMS, etc as well broken out of those.
Agreed, it's far too messy.
/make it happen.
Very disorderly. And for a nooblit like me almost painful.
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maybe in the future i can see a point in sub-sections
but from what ive read (and i aint done any mods to my device yet)
all the roms ect.. are clearly marked which device there for
if you cant find anything for your device thats because its not available 'yet'
the dev section is picking up great so hopefully it wont be long for things to be stable enough for a n00b like me to use, and for different device versions to become available
Sometimes i get confused too but if i got it, most things are common for the tabs and only basebands / modem firmware differs?
Agreed
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A little organization goes a long way. Start topics with "VZW CDMA" or "UK GSM" or something similar and 90% of the confusion would go away. Search might work, too. And people can start doing that TOMORROW, not when some organization is imposed.
Dear Community members,
Should we have 2 separate sub-fora for Android development and Themes and Apps:
-Sense
-AOSP
I think it will make our live easier, but it's just an idea. I included a poll so please, do MASSIVELY express yourself! I did vote Yes, of course!
Regards
forelli
Can't say it would be a bad idea, might split people though and some forums don't like that.
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any organisation is good organisation
I voted no. Why? Because there are so much common things for both builds in those forums.
Android dev: leaks, radios, guides, kernels, general mods (like recent usb host). It should be a general place to find all the custom ROMs.
Themes: I agree that themes are usually for CM or Sense only, but there are also common things like bootanimations, splashes, etc.
I agree with both sides of the case here, however a well titled ROM Thread
e.g
[ROM][SENSE][etc][etc]............
or
[ROM][AOSP][etc][etc]............
Would do just fine. So I voted no.
I opened this thread because it proved difficult to find a CM7 theme or kernel! You have to go through I don't know how many pages before you find something for CM7.
f.
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As it has already been said, a well titled thread should help more than the infinite splitting of the forums. You'll just have to use the search button. What's next? Froyo and Gingerbread subforums? Once i get to a computer I'll vote 'no'.
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I don't know about AOSP or SENSE forums, but I think it would be a good idea to gather all guides (rooting, flashing, s-off etc.) to the same place. That way they would be easier to find than now as they are scattered all over the forum. This would also reduce the numbers of new threads started by people asking questions that have already been answered several times.
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Hawks556 said:
I don't know about AOSP or SENSE forums, but I think it would be a good idea to gather all guides (rooting, flashing, s-off etc.) to the same place. That way they would be easier to find than now as they are scattered all over the forum. This would also reduce the numbers of new threads started by people asking questions that have already been answered several times.
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The sticky roll-up thread in Android Developement maybe?!? They are there, but unfortunately you can have those guides in big red letters on top of every page and there will sill be someone, who thinks it's easier to ask than to read. It has to be the human nature . Actually proposing this, means that you too have never looked at the sticky roll-ups in the forums! Shame on you!
andyharney said:
I agree with both sides of the case here, however a well titled ROM Thread
e.g
[ROM][SENSE][etc][etc]............
or
[ROM][AOSP][etc][etc]............
Would do just fine. So I voted no.
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I think this will be the best if we just tag them, so the common things will be in one place and the different ones Wilkinson be much more easy to find.
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tkolev said:
The sticky roll-up thread in Android Developement maybe?!? They are there, but unfortunately you can have those guides in big red letters on top of every page and there will sill be someone, who thinks it's easier to ask than to read. It has to be the human nature . Actually proposing this, means that you too have never looked at the sticky roll-ups in the forums! Shame on you!
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Yes I've read the stickies, but there isn't listed even nearly all the most commonly needed guides like the getting back to stock guide, improving battery life guide and radio s-off guide just to name a few. Also it would be good to have the known solutions/reasons to common bugs/problems listed somewhere. These threads can ofcourse be found on the forum as it is but if no one posts to the threads (because they are solved) they will fall back to the last pages of the threads list and thus become harder to come across.
And yes I know that the common DHD issues can be found in the general section sticky, but also that one isn't fully comprehensive. Just to give an example the CWM booting while charging issue can't be found there even though the issue has been there since we got CWM on our phones, hasn't it?
Not sure if this has been answered or whatever but I figured I'd ask cause I can't figure it out. Why does the N7 have Original Development and Android Development sub-forums?
It appears that roms/kernels/tools/etc are posted in either or. Now I'm sure there was some original intention but I can't figure out what it is. Any reason why the 2 sections couldn't just be merged into "Development". If there's guidelines to these two forums, I can't figure out where they are posted if they are posted at all. Either way, it doesn't appear anyone follows them based on the content of those two sub-forums. Anyone?
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Not sure if this has been answered or whatever but I figured I'd ask cause I can't figure it out. Why does the N7 have Original Development and Android Development sub-forums?
It appears that roms/kernels/tools/etc are posted in either or. Now I'm sure there was some original intention but I can't figure out what it is. Any reason why the 2 sections couldn't just be merged into "Development". If there's guidelines to these two forums, I can't figure out where they are posted if they are posted at all. Either way, it doesn't appear anyone follows them based on the content of those two sub-forums. Anyone?
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There to do with two different types of developing. I've posted the official XDA introduction page below to explain it better than I ever could
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
I see, I'll have to take a look at that. I'm curious if it states why only some devices have both sections while many other devices only have "Android Development"
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I see, I'll have to take a look at that. I'm curious if it states why only some devices have both sections while many other devices only have "Android Development"
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the newest devices have both sections. its only recent that xda started separating the development sections this way.
yeah, I see that now. I think it's an interesting sentiment but it just makes the development sections sloppy. Now I have to read through 2 different forums which basically contain the same time of information. It was easy enough to just put in the op if something was "original" or not. I don't know. I get it, I just think it's a better idea on paper than actually implemented.
I started another thread on this because I found the separation confusing. Even after the explanation it still seems unnecessary. For one, if you must do this, there should be a sticky on each of the forums explaining what it means. I would not ever in a million years figured out the meaning without asking. My first thought when I saw the android/original separation was the original wasn't android, hence original. But alas it was full of android roms just like the other. Now that I know the difference the classification is slightly useful, but not enough to make me look in two forums for essentially the same type of item.
So I suppose all CM10 derived ROMs will be in the Android forum (except for CM10 itself, of course). Probably find a CM10 derived/compatible forum more useful myself.
EDIT: Apparently even after the explanation I don't understand. There are Roms based on CM code (ie ParanoidAndroid) in the original forum. So Roms based on android code are original, roms based on CM code that is based on Android is original. Exactly what isn't original now? I read the post introducing the forum separation and understand that the classifications have a lot of grey area between, but the problem is it is all grey area. Thus forcing anyone looking for roms to look in both places. No offense meant, last I will say about it, and quietly look in both forums for roms and other items.
Seriously, I have no idea, came from an Amaze 4G with just the Android Development. At first I thought it was a Nexus thing, but the optimus G has two as well
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Basically everything in the original section is made from scratch, while in the android dev section its taken from the original section and modified.
It's more like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
So which would you say is better, more well rounded, and less buggy?
Original Development covers the whole spectrum. From barely works to just beautiful. If there are bugs the developer will squash the bugs. Development Forum is likely to have less bugs because they take the already good work and put in their stuffs. But if there is a bug, expect to wait a while for it to be addressed.For a good phone with a lot of awesome developers as the Nexus 4, Original Development is the way to go. If you're just looking for small mods, go to Development.
Thanks for the explanation.
On other question, does anyone know a guide explaining how trebuchet/launcher3 works and how to modified it?
I wanna learn how to code for android and add a few features.
I would love to have a Sony UI on my Nexus 7.
Is there perhaps a ROM that lets me enjoy the Sony tablet UI on my Nexus 7?
I can't just install the Xperia Home apk file.
Sony's UI is the only one I think is better than stock Android as I have now and it would complement my current Sony Xperia S.
I've googled this and I've searched here on XDA for a similar thread but I couldn't find anything of use.
I can't be the only one, can I?
I would really appreciate anyone who could help me out. I'm sure you'll be helping out others too!
It's hard to port only launcher, because these OEM launchers rely heavily on their own framework. You can search around a little, I think (but not sure) that I was some xperia related apps being ported, but I don't know where.
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It's hard to port only launcher, because these OEM launchers rely heavily on their own framework. You can search around a little, I think (but not sure) that I was some xperia related apps being ported, but I don't know where.
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Is it difficult to port the entire Sony UI thingy to the Nexus 7 then?
It's a shame. Sony makes their UI very clean and very elegant. A Sony Nexus 7 would therefore be epic and I presumed it could just be ported as it's simply a skin of Android (or so I had thought).
Read this.
Use the search function next time please.
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Read this.
Use the search function next time please.
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I don't know if you've realised, but I had already tried searching and I even responded to that thread already.
So unfortunately your reply wasn't of much use to me. The thread even says it's "coming soon" but it was made a while ago.
Use your eyeballs next time please
Then post in an already existing thread rather than making a new one. Read the forum rules. Making threads about the same issue or question is not going to solve anything. Post in one that exist. If it gets a reply, great. If it doesn't, too bad.
Edit - You created this thread almost 2 hours before you wrote in the existing one, which tells me that you in fact did not search for it first, but just made a thread. So don't tell me to "use my eyes" next time.
^^^^^ A new mod or someone playing the part?
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^^^^^ A new mod or someone playing the part?
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You can't deny he's got ambition!
ynrozturk said:
Then post in an already existing thread rather than making a new one. Read the forum rules. Making threads about the same issue or question is not going to solve anything. Post in one that exist. If it gets a reply, great. If it doesn't, too bad.
Edit - You created this thread almost 2 hours before you wrote in the existing one, which tells me that you in fact did not search for it first, but just made a thread. So don't tell me to "use my eyes" next time.
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To the EDIT: I did indeed use the search function before posting this. I just couldn't find anything relevant in the first couple of pages so I guess it would've been easier to just make a new thread. Maybe others who hadn't thought about it might enjoy a Sony UI on their Nexus 7.
Oh and also, this thread is very generally speaking. I'm not just looking for the launcher. Or individual apps. My intention was to find a custom ROM or anything related to the Sony UI to be ported to the Nexus 7. Not just what(ever) was in that link.
Thanks anyway for the attention. This is getting off-topic so I would prefer to see posts of something relevant to my question. Like an actual ROM or something. Maybe even getting a modder as far as to make one himself :victory:
EDIT: Why do you feel the need to correct every tiny mistake I could've made regarding posting rules? My number of posts isn't very high so one would presume I'm new here and I don't know everything there is to this forum yet. A tiny additional note might've been more in place.
I'll try to keep this short. Around 99% of questions have already been asked and answered here on XDA. Chances are if you search hard enough, you'll find it. Rather than taking the lazy route and just creating a new thread, it's generally preferred to do research. That is what XDA is all about - research and development.
While I am not a moderator here, I am an active member, and I try to guide and point people to the right direction as much as I can, in order to keep the forums clean. Because after a while, you too will get sick of seeing people asking the same questions over and over again, even when there are 50+ page threads dedicated to the topic.
Don't take it personally, I am just trying to help. And I did by providing you with a link, pointing to where this discussion should be taking place - in an already ongoing thread.
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I'll try to keep this short. Around 99% of questions have already been asked and answered here on XDA. Chances are if you search hard enough, you'll find it. Rather than taking the lazy route and just creating a new thread, it's generally preferred to do research. That is what XDA is all about - research and development.
While I am not a moderator here, I am an active member, and I try to guide and point people to the right direction as much as I can, in order to keep the forums clean. Because after a while, you too will get sick of seeing people asking the same questions over and over again, even when there are 50+ page threads dedicated to the topic.
Don't take it personally, I am just trying to help. And I did by providing you with a link, pointing to where this discussion should be taking place - in an already ongoing thread.
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I agree with that, and yes, I have read enough on these XDA forums that I do get tired of noobs asking the same thing over and over again, but my thread is more of a general question regarding a way to add a Sony UI to the Nexus 7.
And I haven't seen one of these threads yet.
So yeah, if anyone has any idea how to get a full Sony Xperience on the Nexus 7, I'm more than happy to hear about that!
Sv: [Q] Sony Tablet UI on Nexus 7 - is it possible?
Hopefully, Xperia Tablet Z will be more popular, and get a bigger XDA community.
The search feature on the xda app is terrible. I find better results using the website or Google.
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ynrozturk said:
I'll try to keep this short. Around 99% of questions have already been asked and answered here on XDA. Chances are if you search hard enough, you'll find it. Rather than taking the lazy route and just creating a new thread, it's generally preferred to do research. That is what XDA is all about - research and development.
While I am not a moderator here, I am an active member, and I try to guide and point people to the right direction as much as I can, in order to keep the forums clean. Because after a while, you too will get sick of seeing people asking the same questions over and over again, even when there are 50+ page threads dedicated to the topic.
Don't take it personally, I am just trying to help. And I did by providing you with a link, pointing to where this discussion should be taking place - in an already ongoing thread.
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100% Agreed.
XDA is getting more and more diluted every single day.
Try this link....it is for sony launcher and widgets but I can confirm it is working fine on n7.
You can change alot of features and icons etc.
The link is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34823516
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