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Best Possile Battery Build

Alright guys, ive been hearing different things.. people are getting an upwards of 9 hours of battery from like using texting and that sort of stuff.. stock kernel and rom will give you 5 or 6.. Ive heard some people get 18 hours of use from texting and what not..
Basicly i just want to learn to see what different kernels and set up everyones using and to see how many up hours (like a text or 2 every minute or 2), they get out of it.
Really curious to discover new android things especially battery power with a 4.3 inch screen
Im running Chopsuey kernel with nocturnal shooter sense 3.0 rom and sitting at 768max 245minimum
(yes i made a slight topic typo D=.....)

ICS / CM7 ROM
Kernel : Tiamaat 4.1
undervolted -100mv, 825mv floor
Smartassv2 governor
Battery life: 2 days+

nice to hear you get such good battery life.. i get about 6 or 7 hours of medium usage

I get abysmal battery with every kernel except poonsense for whatever reason. Lasts me all day with texting web phone calls constantly. Seems like setcpu actually makes my battery die quicker
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I'm under clocked at 768 max and 245 min and running chopsuey kernel.. I really need someone to tell me some step by step. I know people getting 2 days worth on 1 charge continuous use

The screen shot is from barely using my phone..
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Did you do a battery calibration? If so not download free battery calibrator, charge you phone too 100% the which is I think its 4200mah. Install setcpu? Change different governed see what works with your phone. I recommand to try different kernel see what works.
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I never believe anyone's claim for 2 days of battery life on a battery of any smartphone.
The most I ever got was at least 8 hours under moderate use with about 40% to spare at the end of the day.
This was achieved using a combination of a froyo rom (myn's twopointtwo) with nets 4.3.4 havs-cfs-more-sbc kernel under-clocked with set cpu and juice defender toggling my mobile data on/off whenever it was needed.

Highest I've personally seen is 18 hours of high use
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I gotten almost 3 days of battery but I had a 3500mah battery.
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I'm talking about with a basic battery
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If anyone wants to see 2 days+ i have screen shots, stock battery.

please and thank you lol.. and help me get your setup XD

Xplod rls3, Savaged Zen 2.2.1 cfs, 245/499 smartass. View attachment 811486
Forgot to mention, stock battery.
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OK seriously now? could you please tell me how you did it.. thats like putting a double chocolate cake and a carton of chocolate ice cream in front of a diabetic who loves sweets..
Tell meee XD lol.. Ive heard of undervolting but no clue how and blah

ReapersDeath said:
OK seriously now? could you please tell me how you did it.. thats like putting a double chocolate cake and a carton of chocolate ice cream in front of a diabetic who loves sweets..
Tell meee XD lol.. Ive heard of undervolting but no clue how and blah
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Not sure if you were asking me or teh, he would be the guy to explain undervolting. I don't use any apps or scripts to uv. Just the setup I posted. Proper battery calibration will probably do the most for improving battery life though.
Btw, I just realized those screenies were not from the Xplod rom. I believe they were from the TN stock, and I would of been running the Chopsuey kernel. Same CPU/governor settings tho.
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Hmmm.. ya I just wanna be pulling 18 hours =p I would feel godly
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It's so crappy right now.. that was just from sleeping over night and using these forums for a bit

ReapersDeath said:
It's so crappy right now.. that was just from sleeping over night and using these forums for a bit
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What ROM are you on?
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Nocturnal shooter sense 3.0. No one else has the issue..

Which is the best kernel for u? and why?

so there is 3 man kernels for our nexus s in JB:
-Trinity (der kernel)
-Marmite
-Matr1x
which is the best for u?
im looking to see wich is the fastest but at the same time stable and battery friendly.

You forgot the Air Kernel.

I know but i never liked it...
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marmite is my favorite. I love the mtp, it's got the patch to force a/c charging, it's got under/overclock support, and it's a nice quick boot on 4.1.2.
Sorry, mathkid....for some reason matrix on 4.1.x ns4g isn't working to over/underclock, so I can't use it

hp420 said:
marmite is my favorite. I love the mtp, it's got the patch to force a/c charging, it's got under/overclock support, and it's a nice quick boot on 4.1.2.
Sorry, mathkid....for some reason matrix on 4.1.x ns4g isn't working to over/underclock, so I can't use it
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what rom are u running?

Cascabreu said:
so there is 3 man kernels for our nexus s in JB:
-Trinity (der kernel)
-Marmite
-Matr1x
wich is the best for u?
im looking to see wich is the fastest but at the same time stable and battery friendly.
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Isn't there like 3 other threads discussing the same thing right now?
Marmite for me. It works, it doesn't have all those fancy features that require buying an app just to use it. Marmite just flat gets it done.

_thalamus' kernel; perhaps it has higher battery drain than marmite or others, but no one is as fast and smooth as that one. I prefer performance and stability rather than best battery life; after all, I always charge the phone at the end of the day to have it full for next day, so....
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My phone always liked trinity. From gb / ics / jb. Matrix would be a close second for me. Marmite was awesome for me around 4.5 build but since then I get a fast dying phone for some reason.
Honestly once the trinity teuv gets voodoo sound it'll be perfect for me. I haven't had a reboot running it in over a month on rasbean jelly
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Marmite FTW!
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alen1901 said:
Marmite FTW!
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+1

When i was using ICS, it was always with AIR.
Now that i run JB, i began with AIR, and i'm now running Marmite.
I don't really care about battery, but i fond marmite as more stable imo.

zhok said:
_thalamus' kernel; perhaps it has higher battery drain than marmite or others, but no one is as fast and smooth as that one. I prefer performance and stability rather than best battery life; after all, I always charge the phone at the end of the day to have it full for next day, so....
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+1 :thumbup:
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+1 for marmite
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Haven't seen a whole lot of Matr1x users here! V. 23.5 has been great. Check out my screen shots! He hasn't been very active updating it but I'm sure he will if there is more active users on his thread.
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Thalamus kernel. Sad to see he's stopped developing for the Nexus S
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ohitspat said:
Thalamus kernel. Sad to see he's stopped developing for the Nexus S
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I fear matrix is next up for the development stopping . I know many of us have used and supported matrix since the gingerbread days . It has always been a great kernel and remains a staple for my phone. I believe development for this kernel would continue and surpass all our expectations with continued support from us the community. Sure would hate to lose the matrix kernel also. Just my 2 cents .
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You don't need so called constant development of a kernel. All that is for the most part is feature wanking and buzzword dropping.
People are hooked on this weekly update bs from cherry picking people. That just update their crap just for the sake of updating.
When you release a good stable working kernel you don't need or get a thread full of posts and discussion about crashes or what pointless buzzword will be added next.

I prefer matrix for touchwake. I found that in large part, there wasn't much difference for me between marmite and matrix in performance, stability, and battery life. Both were phenomenal. with regard to the "lack of active users" comment, I think the lack of thread activity is due to the kernel being bug free. maths threads have always been quiet for this very reason.
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What is touchwakr? Never get ot right..
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Cascabreu said:
what rom are u running?
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PA 2.18 for ns4g

Goodbye LG

Got the nexus 6 today. I really had enough of the LG lag even with many tweaks and stuff.
Thanks everyone, and good luck.

Don't notice lag on my G3. Enjoy.
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mbruster said:
Don't notice lag on my G3. Enjoy.
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Same here, lag free, but, to echo the above -enjoy!

G3 on lollipop is RAPID, zero lag

stas333 said:
Got the nexus 6 today. I really had enough of the LG lag even with many tweaks and stuff.
Thanks everyone, and good luck.
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Lag? Maybe the tweaks caused the lags because I haven't had a single lag on my LG G3 3GB/32GB. :S
Regardless, I was debating between the G3 and the Nexus 6 when I was buying my phone. I got the G3 obviously! Enjoy your Nexus 6! It's a fantastic device

stas333 said:
Got the nexus 6 today. I really had enough of the LG lag even with many tweaks and stuff.
Thanks everyone, and good luck.
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Nexus 6 is a good choice if you dont mind its size.
about that lag, i had it first when i got it. only way to fix it is to switch to ART instead of dalvik .really eaz to set and you wont believe the difference. of course no tweaks come close to it. struggled with that lag myself in first week.
also installing lollipop also removes the lag completely, of course its using ART by default and rom itself is a much better performer.
1 more thing. if you dont wanna switch to ART for some odd reason, i think the culprit is the launcher so just check nova launcher out. set it to default and restart phone.
anyway personally i love Nexus 6 but its unusable for me cause of the size but if you are ok with it, good for you.

I wanted to get n6 cos g3 had some lags .. But after i updated to lollipop V20D i changed my mind ..cos its very smooth the camera very good and bo lags at all ..good luck man with your n6 ... Just tell me which camera is better g3 or n6 ?

So far the nexus phone is awesome, but it is bare. I do miss a few features if the g3, but the dual front speakers make the switch a good move. The phone is slightly bigger than the g3, but I love it. Videos, browsing the web is so much better.

Bye Felicia!
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I wonder how all these people get lag like wtf are you doing on your phone
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Neurom707 said:
I wonder how all these people get lag like wtf are you doing on your phone
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Hahaha. A lot of stuff.

stas333 said:
Got the nexus 6 today. I really had enough of the LG lag even with many tweaks and stuff.
Thanks everyone, and good luck.
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That's very nice of you. thanks.
Good luck trying to fit your phone in the pocket.

So do the rest of us but no lag maybe your doing something wrong.
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i would have bought the nexus 6.. coming from a nexus 5 it was the logical upgrade.. thing is... its massive... no longer a phone.. its a tablet. you will realize its a mistake , way 2 big
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Coming recently from the Moto X (2013 model):LG is beautiful, screen is much better.. But, on stock Android: it IS a bit slower than my Moto X was..
I wait for lollypop, hope it will solve the lag issue.

The G3 does have some lag. I even see lag on the lock screen when entering my PIN (sometimes). It's been this way since I bought the phone. Running stock rom with root, xposed, and g3 tweaksbox.
I tried the CM12 unofficial recently and it is a lot smoother than the lg rom. The only issue is that it literally eats the battery... once they get this sorted out and a stable release comes I will move over to CM on my G3.

[Got what i needed..thanks!]Looking for a helper for about a half hour.

Used to have a one plus one. I jump phones so I left. Hey...its what I do. What I am hoping for is to prove a point on why my one plus one got way better battery life then my G3 does. Virtually the same specs. Same carrier...same apps. Now. Here is where someone with a 1+1 comes in. Using this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iattilagy.usemon you can monitor the GPU usage if you scroll down a bit. Would prefer a relatively stock like setup. It doesn't even require root. Just run this app for about a half hour using no games or anything just oh idk. Texting, hangouts, Tapatalk, no gaming. I want to see what the GPU freq it runs at most often in that 30 min. Then snap a screen shot and PM or post it here.
Hopefully someone will help me out with this.
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I can probably do it for you sometime after tomorrow, I'm currently running AK's kernel so I can't do it atm. Whenever I flash the next nighly I'll wait on flashing AK's kernel, and then I can do it for you as I don't use my phone too much during the week, if no one else has done it by Monday just PM me, and I'll do it for you.
Also, any particular reason you jumped to the G3?
EDIT: I run a very stock setup , running CM12 nightlies. No background apps like skype or whatever, either. Should be perfect for a comparison.

MilesDerp said:
I can probably do it for you sometime after tomorrow, I'm currently running AK's kernel so I can't do it atm. Whenever I flash the next nighly I'll wait on flashing AK's kernel, and then I can do it for you as I don't use my phone too much during the week, if no one else has done it by Monday just PM me, and I'll do it for you.
Also, any particular reason you jumped to the G3?
EDIT: I run a very stock setup , running CM12 nightlies. No background apps like skype or whatever, either. Should be perfect for a comparison.
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Perfect! Not really any particular reason besides same specs and slightly smaller bezel. Never figured the difference would be night and day. 1+1 wins in my book.
G3 battery life is horrid imho. I got 7-8hrs screen on almost daily. With he g3 only about 3 give or take. Got a 9000 mah battery now. Things a brick but I get 11-12 hrs screen on. Its sad. With this battery and my old 1+1 I'd feel comfortable in saying 20hrs screen on min probably 24
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I think it's because the screen resolution on the g3 is much higher.
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Yep the GPUs are working about the same. Has to be the screen it self that makes it such a hog whether it be the QHD since they both IPS displays.
Thanks for the help. I'll be watching for the 1+2 in the future. I had a very good 1+1 experience... Its far better then the G3 IMHO.
Thanks again!
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michaeldepotter said:
I think it's because the screen resolution on the g3 is much higher.
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Try and tell them that once lol....doesn't go over well.
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What do you want to see in a kernel?

Hi everyone,
As some of you may know, I maintain two kernels right now, Swell and Intoxicated Boeffla. The issue here is one produces astounding battery life, but some people run into stutters and stuff like that, while the other produces fantastic performance and okay battery life but is limited by being based off of Boeffla. My point? I want to start fresh yet again, I want to introduce one more kernel before I call it quits, and I want YOU to shape it from the very start... So I leave you with one very important question... What do you want to see from me?

I'm not an expert in this... but keeping your approach in thermal controls - Swell is really cold! - while achieving a good battery/performance balance, seems to be good for my personal use. :cyclops:
And Alucard or ElementalX governors! (I don't have the slightest idea how difficulty can be to implement such a thing - I'm just a noob who likes to tweak and experiment new settings!).:angel:

1. Stable.
2. Depending on individual - good to have 3 settings or/and profiles - a. Balance, b. Performance, and c. Battery.
3. Many features e.g. Stable governors, IO, tweak charge voltage.
4. Smooth like butter.
I am not sure why i tried all kernel on my Sultan cm13 but got fc. Only blu_spark is most stable so i always switch back.
For your swell, i got fc on zzmoove. Other than smartmax, whats the other stable governor? I think should only keep the stable governor.
Lastly, i thank your for your hard and excellent work.

I would be very interested in a performance oriented kernel from scratch. I don't care much for all the other governors, I think that one should stick to well known and tested governors like interactive and ondemand(I'm using slimrom with ondemand governor right now). It's not the most battery friendly governor but i just don't mind it because I really hate seeing lag and stutter on my phone and it's like you said, battery oriented kernels tend to cause stutters and lag. Many users probably don't even care about stutters like me (proof of that is that I see a lot of people saying that oxygen os works perfectly and with good performance lol). Ondemand makes the phone really fast and I don't mind having a bit lower battery life honestly. I wish I knew how to tweak ondemand better though

ISO fs capability would be i nice (yet mostly useless feature). Also honestly i got no idea how hard it is to implement sth like that. [emoji14]
However i'm pretty satisfied by ur swell kernel. Don't really miss anything :highfive:
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Smoothness and battery, we all have witnessed in Swell. For me it's outstanding kernel, I don't want to go with any other but then you're willing to work on new kernel, I'd need Swell part two with working USB ETHERNET module. <3

zaaed said:
Smoothness and battery, we all have witnessed in Swell. For me it's outstanding kernel, I don't want to go with any other but then you're willing to work on new kernel, I'd need Swell part two with working USB ETHERNET module. <3
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I may be able to fix that actually...

RJDTWO said:
I may be able to fix that actually...
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Waiting for this one, already purchased USB Ethernet adaptor to check it.

Only one thing Battery life ....
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sifatrhmn said:
Only one thing Battery life ....
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You already have it in Swell, if you haven't tested it. Go now and flash it.

Support for external USB WiFi dongles

I really really want want cpuquiet back in Swell kernel myself C:

zaaed said:
You already have it in Swell, if you haven't tested it. Go now and flash it.
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Using bluespark CM 64
Getting 6hr SOT / overall 15hr....
Can Swell give me more?
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sifatrhmn said:
Using bluespark CM 64
Getting 6hr SOT / overall 15hr....
Can Swell give me more?
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I'd say give it a try. also ran bluspark, but sticking to swell atm.
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What i would love to see is bluspark with cpu oc.

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sifatrhmn said:
Using bluespark CM 64
Getting 6hr SOT / overall 15hr....
Can Swell give me more?
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Swell with DU, getting 8 hours SOT

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Swell with DU, getting 8 hours SOT
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Whats your setttings in Kernel Audiutor? Thanks in advance.

Tiongkia said:
Whats your setttings in Kernel Audiutor? Thanks in advance.
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zzmove, with underclock 1.9Ghz, multicore power save OFF, Thunderplug/Alucard, GPU 389, Undervolt global voltage -30, no Xposed up till now, just flashed two days before. Only Greenify and blocked some wakelocks of facebook.