Which is the best kernel for u? and why? - Nexus S General

so there is 3 man kernels for our nexus s in JB:
-Trinity (der kernel)
-Marmite
-Matr1x
which is the best for u?
im looking to see wich is the fastest but at the same time stable and battery friendly.

You forgot the Air Kernel.

I know but i never liked it...
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marmite is my favorite. I love the mtp, it's got the patch to force a/c charging, it's got under/overclock support, and it's a nice quick boot on 4.1.2.
Sorry, mathkid....for some reason matrix on 4.1.x ns4g isn't working to over/underclock, so I can't use it

hp420 said:
marmite is my favorite. I love the mtp, it's got the patch to force a/c charging, it's got under/overclock support, and it's a nice quick boot on 4.1.2.
Sorry, mathkid....for some reason matrix on 4.1.x ns4g isn't working to over/underclock, so I can't use it
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what rom are u running?

Cascabreu said:
so there is 3 man kernels for our nexus s in JB:
-Trinity (der kernel)
-Marmite
-Matr1x
wich is the best for u?
im looking to see wich is the fastest but at the same time stable and battery friendly.
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Isn't there like 3 other threads discussing the same thing right now?
Marmite for me. It works, it doesn't have all those fancy features that require buying an app just to use it. Marmite just flat gets it done.

_thalamus' kernel; perhaps it has higher battery drain than marmite or others, but no one is as fast and smooth as that one. I prefer performance and stability rather than best battery life; after all, I always charge the phone at the end of the day to have it full for next day, so....
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My phone always liked trinity. From gb / ics / jb. Matrix would be a close second for me. Marmite was awesome for me around 4.5 build but since then I get a fast dying phone for some reason.
Honestly once the trinity teuv gets voodoo sound it'll be perfect for me. I haven't had a reboot running it in over a month on rasbean jelly
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Marmite FTW!
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Marmite FTW!
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When i was using ICS, it was always with AIR.
Now that i run JB, i began with AIR, and i'm now running Marmite.
I don't really care about battery, but i fond marmite as more stable imo.

zhok said:
_thalamus' kernel; perhaps it has higher battery drain than marmite or others, but no one is as fast and smooth as that one. I prefer performance and stability rather than best battery life; after all, I always charge the phone at the end of the day to have it full for next day, so....
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+1 for marmite
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Haven't seen a whole lot of Matr1x users here! V. 23.5 has been great. Check out my screen shots! He hasn't been very active updating it but I'm sure he will if there is more active users on his thread.
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Thalamus kernel. Sad to see he's stopped developing for the Nexus S
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Thalamus kernel. Sad to see he's stopped developing for the Nexus S
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I fear matrix is next up for the development stopping . I know many of us have used and supported matrix since the gingerbread days . It has always been a great kernel and remains a staple for my phone. I believe development for this kernel would continue and surpass all our expectations with continued support from us the community. Sure would hate to lose the matrix kernel also. Just my 2 cents .
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You don't need so called constant development of a kernel. All that is for the most part is feature wanking and buzzword dropping.
People are hooked on this weekly update bs from cherry picking people. That just update their crap just for the sake of updating.
When you release a good stable working kernel you don't need or get a thread full of posts and discussion about crashes or what pointless buzzword will be added next.

I prefer matrix for touchwake. I found that in large part, there wasn't much difference for me between marmite and matrix in performance, stability, and battery life. Both were phenomenal. with regard to the "lack of active users" comment, I think the lack of thread activity is due to the kernel being bug free. maths threads have always been quiet for this very reason.
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What is touchwakr? Never get ot right..
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what rom are u running?
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PA 2.18 for ns4g

Related

Fast ROM!

I'm getting extended battery soon and don't care about battery anymore, I just want something that is blazing fast, any sugestions.. or opinions on nitrous.. sounds like a fast ROM
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Nitrous is crazy fast. I'm using Boot Manager, which runs ROMs from the sd card and stock kernel, still very fast. Normally, Sense ROMs slow down in BOOT Manager, but not this one!
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Aosp roms are always faster since they don't have the bloat of sense added it eats up alot of ram that when.freed up really makes the phone alot faster
I asked same question. Been using synergy else 1 w/ god mode. 4 g. Downloads up to 12 MBs. Quadrant scores up to 1600. Midst have agressive freedom kernel for god mode. ROM is stable but no longer supported or under development
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Or you could upgrade to a new device like the et4g and get speeds like this
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I'm gonna cast a vote for Sense 1.0 ROMs. These are fast AND stable. Of course, I have more than a few you should check out in your search for a ROM
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i used MIUI swiper build, this is a fast ROM ever that i used
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I asked same question. Been using synergy else 1 w/ god mode. 4 g. Downloads up to 12 MBs. Quadrant scores up to 1600. Midst have agressive freedom kernel for god mode. ROM is stable but no longer supported or under development
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Yea I had synergy, got a lot of errors with it
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Or you could upgrade to a new device like the et4g and get speeds like this
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That's tight man I still have 6 months till up grade
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Faster must equal better battery life. In rom atleast.
What you should do is set the CPU at a higher clock.
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
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That's tight man I still have 6 months till up grade
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I still have my upgrade, my dad is a phoneaholic and buys a new one everytime something cool comes out, he switched from evo-3vo-photon-et4g-gNote I inherited the evo first the 3vo was returned for the photon, he added a line to get the et4g then switched to att to get the note I hated the photon so when he went to att I got the et4g so now I have the et4g on my main line and the evo on my 2nd line, he has the note on his main number which was ported to att and has the photon on his 2nd number which is still sprint, the note is a bad ass phone, I wanted the gNex til I played with one on vzw next to my et4g and I like the et4g alot better just can't wait for a stable cm9 or AOSP ICS rom then this thing will be a gNex on roids, the screen is so much nicer being a super amoled plus vs just the super amoled
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Crossrocker said:
Faster must equal better battery life. In rom atleast.
What you should do is set the CPU at a higher clock.
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
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i used MIUIv4 swiper, and no problem for battery life..everything is good
Crossrocker said:
Faster must equal better battery life. In rom atleast.
What you should do is set the CPU at a higher clock.
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
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I already have peformace tweaks to CPU, I think I'm just gunna keep the express, still running solid.. why change when I have an amazing ROM in front of me, that I can tweak with and make fast
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you should try kwiq rom,
it's fast,
more tweaks,
i used it for daily
rizky14 said:
you should try kwiq rom,
it's fast,
more tweaks,
i used it for daily
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MIUI still better for me for daily uses
I'm still stuck on synergy w/god mode. EVO 4 g user. No problems at all. No glitches,works flawlessly.lack of support kinda sucks but check this out. Quadrant scores of 1650. Downloads up to 12.5mbs per second on sprint service. Show me something faster and ill switch
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I'm still stuck on synergy w/god mode. EVO 4 g user. No problems at all. No glitches,works flawlessly.lack of support kinda sucks but check this out. Quadrant scores of 1650. Downloads up to 12.5mbs per second on sprint service. Show me something faster and ill switch
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iam8up2003 said:
I'm still stuck on synergy w/god mode. EVO 4 g user. No problems at all. No glitches,works flawlessly.lack of support kinda sucks but check this out. Quadrant scores of 1650. Downloads up to 12.5mbs per second on sprint service. Show me something faster and ill switch
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I loved synergy but I had a lot of small bugs with it
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Haven't tried a lot of roms but I tried Synergy, Energy, and MikG and MikG is really fast and responsive. I really enjoy this rom.
If ICS and speed is your thing, I recommend AOKP (now HWA). With the Mason Kernel + FSO
also, max OC (1152-ish) on the performance governor should do you well performance wise.

Best ROM Based On The ICS Beta?

Like the title says, what is the best ROM based on the ICS Beta from Sony + What kernel are you using & whats it clocked at?
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Like the title says, what is the best ROM based on the ICS Beta from Sony + What kernel are you using & whats it clocked at?
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Biased Question,
There is No best or worst ROM They side On preference Try them Yourself Doing this will Point rage at you.!..
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Biased Question,
There is No best or worst ROM They side On preference Try them Yourself Doing this will Point rage at you.!..
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I was asking it to people who have experienced the different ROMS, which one 'they' find best, i only want peoples opinions.
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The best for me was the darkforest
Ice rom and kernel I'm clocked at 1.2ghz and is using smartassv2 almost no bugs but camera sometimes force closes and getting data to work is a pain.
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I'm using Darkforest as my daily driver
Out of all the other ICS ROMs, this one is the top of the cake for me.
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Best rom?
FXP115- CM9.0 FreeXperia Project is a rom im looking at right now. i looked under the development forum post for it but I need more posts apparently in order to ask questions. So does anyone know what the Rom is, is it stable, and what is not working with this rom? Plz and thanks
Tried both Darkforest and JJ's rom
Both had bugs glitches (part of the screen was cut off)
also battery life was shorter than gingerbread
switched back to gingerbread until / if ics as good
Darkforest seems good, ill try it later;D
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Could you post screenshots?
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Could you post screenshots?
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I've noticed a small battery decrease as well from switching from GB. I had to underclock Darkforest to get the same amount.
Still great tho. Just a little slow.
I've only tried regular beta and Darkforest, but I did try 3 different kernels. I found the Darkforest kernel had better battery life than the ICS doomkernel, but worse than advanced stock (when they haven't been tweaked)
The difference in battery life for me between ICS and gingerbread is immense. And as you can see in the Darkforest thread, I had severe graphic errors, lockups.. I thought maybe my hardware was screwed but;
Went to jokawild with doomkernel 11 and all the glitches went away. And my battery life is 2x longer at LEAST. Hour and a half of use took me down to 60%. On ICS the same amount of time killed the battery completely. And I haven't even finished tweaking this gingerbread yet..
Also, ICS was laggy. Constant slight lag, occasional large spikes. Gingerbread when configured right is really fast. If you mostly want ICS for the way it looks and not features, get an ICS theme and stick with gingerbread. The new features, especially changes to system menus and browser, and gapps were great, but simply not worth it IMO.
As time goes on and things speed up, I'm sure it'll become more worthwhile, but not right now
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Definitely Sony's ROM and kernel.
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I'm having a hard time switching back to Gingerbread
There is another ROM than Darkforest??

Ics kernel thread-- share your views [poll] + [discussion]

Share your views about various kernels for ics 4.0.4...
Tell us which kernel you are using so that many people come to know about devs...
1. stability
2.smoothness
3.battery life
4.oc/uv
5. extra features
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Semaphore is probably the best all rounder IMO. Good performance, good battery.
Devil might be able to edge out Semaphore in performance but that's if you OC it to 1400 Mhz, and that destroys the battery.
Glitch used to be good but there hasn't been any update since late March, so I really wouldn't count on it being too good compared to the above two.
I always used devil. Most options by far. If you just want a kernel, semaphore is always a good choice.
I've always liked Devil.. it has a boatload of options including supporting a swap partition. Excellent performance and battery life too.
If you want it easy and without big configuration, use Midnight ICS. Very good battery life, simple and suitable performance in every case. Quite stable, best Kernel for me.
Well, usually i wouldn't answer these kind of threads because there isn't absolute answer..but i just had best screen on time with devil ever for me, which was about 5,5 hours in a little over 12 hours of uptime..i think that's pretty good in heavy use..
But still it really depends on day and use..and probably you won't find big differences between all kernels (will at least i haven't)
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If you want it easy and without big configuration, use Midnight ICS. Very good battery life, simple and suitable performance in every case. Quite stable, best Kernel for me.
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Midnight seems to be a nice one for me too
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I vote for Midnight too - very stable and packs useful features (fast-charge, Voodoo sound etc).
Semaphore for me, just a great all rounder.
I'm using SlimICS 4.0 with Vortex Fusion kernel, OC to 1440MHz.
Quite stable, no such thing as self-reboot. Battery can last for almost 2 days with normal usage.
I've always used Semaphore. Devil is also a good choice and I sometimes use that to compare the two.
rmsinaga said:
I'm using SlimICS 4.0 with Vortex Fusion kernel, OC to 1440MHz.
Quite stable, no such thing as self-reboot. Battery can last for almost 2 days with normal usage.
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Which kernel??? Link pls?? Is it an i9000 kernel ?
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Seamaphore
Seamaphore is the best i think for reguler day to day use, but devil has alittle bit more options.
I presonally use Seamaphore.
My best kernel is devil and semaphore.
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I saw that you originally asked in sema thread which kernel better battery live gives. Devil and Semaphore are the top kernels for our device, they'll both give good battery life. And don't forget that most battery is used by screen, so if you want to save some battery juice, turn the display off!
currently using Devil's kernel
Personally I got lots of reboot and force closes with semaphore, but not one with devil.
Looks like it may be my setup causing the problems with semaphore.
Both have been excellent for battery though.
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Tried semaphore, devil, midnight and glitch. All are good.
If you want to overclock then devil but as you are looking for good battery you probably won't overclock.
In this case I would go with semaphore. I have personally never had a single random reboot on semaphore. And I use this more than the others. In fact almost exclusively these days. Usually try others when flashing addiction needs a fix.
Midnight is also a good option for battery life.
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scubadude said:
Tried semaphore, devil, midnight and glitch. All are good.
If you want to overclock then devil but as you are looking for good battery you probably won't overclock.
In this case I would go with semaphore. I have personally never had a single random reboot on semaphore. And I use this more than the others. In fact almost exclusively these days. Usually try others when flashing addiction needs a fix.
Midnight is also a good option for battery life.
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Actually, glitch is a bit better for OC than devil.
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Semaphore
Semaphore is good enough.

120% performance increase with Linaro toolchain

I heard the Linaro changes are being pushed, I checked and it looks like it may take a little more time.
basically the Linaro builds use a toolchain that give android builds up to a 30%* performance increase
If any devs want to take a look at it, It's in gerrit (I think this is it)
http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/17380/
EDIT: Galaxy Nexus version's reported benchmarks
I read it was only a 30# improvement. I hope it improves the lag on the recents list.
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I read it was only a 30# improvement. I hope it improves the lag on the recents list.
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I calculated based on panda-board FPS average results, but you're probably right
EDIT: yep, it was 30, I'm bad at math
Ezekeel believed this was not true, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371044
bedalus said:
Ezekeel believed this was not true, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371044
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A Galaxy Nexus ROM has this and they say the UI overall is faster.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/com...ld_optimizations_that_can_make_ics_30/c4y97ef
Could be placebo, who knows.
Could be... Someone needs to benchmark it properly!
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Could be... Someone needs to benchmark it properly!
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If this is real, I have a feeling it doesn't respond to benchmarks. As most know, benchmarks are not real world tests.
e.g. deleting an OpenGLes lib to make benchmarks show a different score.
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Could be... Someone needs to benchmark it properly!
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I already see one person that won't hesitate to benchmark this as soon as it will be available on Nexus S
Wow if this implemented on our phones we will not be needing another core
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Oh wait, found this:
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/06...k-android-to-shame-on-ti-pandaboard-omap4430/
...with the same video.
Looks promising!
Slim ics rom and kernel
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Omg my score is higher than linaro optimized android on gnex!i wonder how much improvement we'll get if slim rom also optimized by linaro..
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What program is that your using ? Would love this to come to cm9 based nexus s roms
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I already see one person that won't hesitate to benchmark this as soon as it will be available on Nexus S
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Your right! Bedalus will have this sorted soon enough! I'm sure it will be added to the sticky soon after
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according to Gerrit, CM is having some troubles with compatibility, and they are sorting that out right now.
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What program is that your using ? Would love this to come to cm9 based nexus s roms
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koax88 is using 0xbench
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Omg my score is higher than linaro optimized android on gnex!i wonder how much improvement we'll get if slim rom also optimized by linaro..
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You have to compare it to a GNEX, not using Nexus S. GNEX has to push more pixels and so on to the 4.65" 720p screen comparing to Nexus S with 4.0" display. I believe that would put a strain on the CPU?
I have question. In which part of an android will this be implemented? The rom or the kernel?
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The rom, good sir
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I have question. In which part of an android will this be implemented? The rom or the kernel?
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Good question. We've already seen that there's no significant benefit from linaro 'optimized' kernel builds. Should be interesting.
....memoirs of a flash addict.
CM9 nightly implemented some Linaro code in the build you can see in change log I did 2 quadrant scores at 1.4ghz & got total score of 1800 I then flashed the Anidroid hardened kernel b.13 which was build using linaro tool chain & got a score of 2500 phone did seem a little quicker but nothing crazy
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Jelly bean miui

So I have only seen a few jb versions of miui out and they were not very good. I am wondering if anyone would be interested of I was to bring one to the table? If I can get enough interest in it I can try working my magic on it. I have played around with it some already and it is not too bad. Sluggish in some areas but I think with a week or so of work it could be killer.
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If you can get it to be stable, it'd be very cool. The only bad thing about GB MIUI is that none of the themes online are for GB anymore
They still have gb themes online. They are not updating as much but they are still there. Also I know that you want jb miui and have already put you into the tally pot even before you said anything. The jelly bean I have on my phone has been rock solid so that is not an issue it just lags sometimes mostly on the lockscreen and that weird second launcher thing they added. Although I am sure I can cure most of those issues with a little work. I was using for a couple of weeks before I started working on these current projects.
I will give you a copy of what I was using if you would like it had tronits first kernel on it. So far the only 4.1.2 rom that could run it that I know of and seeder. I will update the kernel and put in crossbreeder then upload it for you.
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They still have gb themes online. They are not updating as much but they are still there. Also I know that you want jb miui and have already put you into the tally pot even before you said anything. The jelly bean I have on my phone has been rock solid so that is not an issue it just lags sometimes mostly on the lockscreen and that weird second launcher thing they added. Although I am sure I can cure most of those issues with a little work. I was using for a couple of weeks before I started working on these current projects.
I will give you a copy of what I was using if you would like it had tronits first kernel on it. So far the only 4.1.2 rom that could run it that I know of and seeder. I will update the kernel and put in crossbreeder then upload it for you.
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I think Tronit just updated his kernel with SBC
Yes he updated yesterday with sbc. What I was using was his first kernel. I now have jb miui up and running and playing with tweaks to see what will give the best bang for the buck. So far it has blackdone 2.1r1 sbc and crossbreeder installed. Tried xlound/bravia2 and that was a no go also MPEngine would not work either. I am checking out build.prop mods now and then init.d scripts afterwards. I want this to run like dirty diablo but right now it is just not there. The lockscreen is the worst. The lag is still there but it is usable unlike before where you never wanted to have the screen lock. Also most of the android keyboard lag is gone so that is a plus. Then last is to try and do something about this darn battery drain. Like most jb roms it sucks the juice like a top fuel dragster.
Keep your eye out there just may be a new jb 4.2.1 MIUI coming to a server near you.
jlmancuso said:
Yes he updated yesterday with sbc. What I was using was his first kernel. I now have jb miui up and running and playing with tweaks to see what will give the best bang for the buck. So far it has blackdone 2.1r1 sbc and crossbreeder installed. Tried xlound/bravia2 and that was a no go also MPEngine would not work either. I am checking out build.prop mods now and then init.d scripts afterwards. I want this to run like dirty diablo but right now it is just not there. The lockscreen is the worst. The lag is still there but it is usable unlike before where you never wanted to have the screen lock. Also most of the android keyboard lag is gone so that is a plus. Then last is to try and do something about this darn battery drain. Like most jb roms it sucks the juice like a top fuel dragster.
Keep your eye out there just may be a new jb 4.2.1 MIUI coming to a server near you.
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Miui eats a lot of battery I know since I develop miui for the Evo LTE and sprint Galaxy s3 . After miui upgraded to ICS their miui launcher became a huge resource hog
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evo4gnoob said:
Miui eats a lot of battery I know since I develop miui for the Evo LTE and sprint Galaxy s3 . After miui upgraded to ICS their miui launcher became a huge resource hog
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Yeah, I remember that.
I remove their launcher and use an old vtl launcher that come with the first custom ROM for my zio. The battery life is on par with other jb ROMs
Edit: I will charge this fully and give you the stats. Now that I am not flashing 15-20 times a day.
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This is the best battery life I have ever had.. jellymiui
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