After upgrading everything was nice and smooth for the first couple days but now I've hit some hard performance and lag issues especially keyboard lag. I experienced these on the developer previews on every preview so I always downgraded but this is kinda ridiculous to experience this on the official release of Nougat. Anyone else having these problems? Any fix? Clearing cache is not a workable fix, it only helps for a small amount of time say 20mins and then it's right back yo lag central. Hugely frustrating as this is my only device.
Worse than MM? I'm honestly disappointed with the performance of the device. Recommended it to my girlfriend when she had to upgrade from her iPhone, and performance is atrocious on MM. It seemed like a memory leak, because rebooting would help for a day or so, then the stuttery laggy mess comes back. It's performace pales next to my Oneplus One . I hoped the Nougat update would help fix those issues?
Ive never had any lag issues on MM or Nougat
Didn't have lag issues on MM(I'd say performance went doing after the 6.0.1 release especially in the battery dept tho.) but Nougat has been atrocious. I don't understand how mkbhd was saying he had no problems with developer preview or 7.0 because its apparent after a day of use. I've rebooted my phone like 5 times so far tonight clearing my cache each time and sure enough an hour or more later it's right back to lag town. I will say it's gotten better since dev preview 5 but it's still too bad for daily driver. Who the actual **** is working on the Android team at Google? This has been reported and known since preview 1 and yet it seems to never be addressed
Lately Google's quality of work seems to be: ¯\_(?)_/¯
Yeah, I'm seeing bad intermittent lag and stutter on 7. I also saw it on 6. 0.1 though. It may just be a hardware issue with the rubbish 810?
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He didn't say seven dot one (7.1), he said seven period space (capital) eye (7. I).
So here's something interesting, after I uninstalled screenwise panel I haven't been experiencing the keyboard and performance lag
No lag here on stock unrooted nougat. Has to be a third party app. Battery life has been a unicorn on nougat I must say. When the phone dirty flashed nougat over marshmallow i had terrible battery life. Lost 25% precent in just two hours! Factory reset cleared that up so o thought. This morning after leaving the house and the charger, phone felt slightly warm on hostler. Checked it and sure enough, down to 80% in 2 hours. Rebooted and problem was gone. I hope i don't have to reboot every day to get good battery life. I believe this is not the same update Google will push to non beta members. Hopefully the "release" version will have these things sorted out.
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The 7.0 pushed to the beta users is the same release version, there aren't two different Roms. Also while uninstalling screenwise panel seems to have cleared up the majority of the lag, there is still Ram Memory problems and slight stuttering
Factory data reset after EVERY MAJOR ANDROID UPDATE. If you haven't, you need to do that. After an update a lot of the time the temp and backup files aren't erased after the update and they can lead to performance issues. Especially on a new device you should not see any lag on the 6P on MM or Nougat.
In fact, I have seen my 6P even smoother and snappier on N over MM.
I never experienced any kind off issues on MM was very happy with the performance. Now that I have taking the Full OTA update to 7 I can tell a big difference in battery life and it's amazing. 7 has been running very smooth and buttery for me. But I've noticed that a lot of people that moved to 7 never factory reset their phone BC of losing data n such and most of them seem to be having a bad experience.
Soon as 7 booted after the update I then went in to stock recovery and factory reset the phone then went through the set up installed all my apps then flashed TWRP 3.0.2.1 then made a backup of r he stock ROM. Then flashed superuserUpdate 2.76 booted the phone and restored all app data via Titanium backup ran for a few days to make sure no issues was going to pop up then made another backup.
Currently I'm 7 all stock with stock kernel and root. The only mod I flashed was the soft key swap.
And during the wipe n stock recovery I wiped the internal storage also..
But hope you get it figured out man BC it's really worth the move..
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Factory data reset after EVERY MAJOR ANDROID UPDATE. If you haven't, you need to do that. After an update a lot of the time the temp and backup files aren't erased after the update and they can lead to performance issues. Especially on a new device you should not see any lag on the 6P on MM or Nougat.
In fact, I have seen my 6P even smoother and snappier on N over MM.
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why not just download a free app like cc cleaner that can get rid of files like those?
My 6P started acting weird the last 4 days. Apps will freeze then the pop up says app not responding close it or wait. Also the screen will not turn on when I hit the power button or use the fingerprint reader. I have to hit it many times before it comes on. I have booted into safe mode and still have the problem. I was running Preview 5 so my phone updated to 7.0 stable the day it was released. Everything was running smooth until Saturday night. Now it is about useless. Im hoping someone has a recommendation other than factory reset but I'm afraid that is going to be my only hope. Just don't want to waste another day setting this thing back up.
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UPDATE: would you recommend Android 4.4.1 over Android 4.3 on the Nexus 4? Why? Why not?
Okay, a little title change here. So I'm hearing some good things on 4.4.1, so let me ask you a few questions, even if it may be too early at this point:
- anyone who didn't recommend 4.4 before feels like 4.4.1 is major step forward?
- how's battery life, especially in regards of wakelocks and unexpected drainage? Does wakelockdetector work now?
- how's 4.4.1 performance compared to 4.3, both stock, is it definitely snappier?
- how's camera performing to 4.3, how's photoshere stitching?
- anyone running it WITHOUT factory reset and 4.4 & 4.4.1 installed over 4.3, experiencing zero problems?
Thank you!
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Okay I guess it's a question I want answer to, but I posted in the General cause more than a simple answer I look forward to a positive discussion on the matter - is 4.4 stable, app-supported and bug free enough right now to easily recommend the update, would you rather suggest to wait until bug fixes or would you flat out say avoid it?
I added a poll to get a statistical look of the Community's take on this so others can check where 4.4 stands now on the Nexus 4 according to XDA.
Of course, KitKat is a great update. It's the best Android version yet and I love where Google is going with it.
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Okay I guess it's a question I want answer to, but I posted in the General cause more than a simple answer I look forward to a positive discussion on the matter - is 4.4 stable, app-supported and bug free enough right now to easily recommend the update, would you rather suggest to wait until bug fixes or would you flat out say avoid it?
I added a poll to get a statistical look of the Community's take on this so others can check where 4.4 stands now on the Nexus 4 according to XDA.
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obviously yes, the 4.4 google nexus update is awesome, dunno for other devices ( in future ). by the time samsung launches it, it will be full of bugs, ala 4.3 for s3
I think everyone who has an unlocked bootloader should for sure. Definitely needs to be ran for a couple days to get a feel for it. If you want customization you'll most likely go back to 4.3 as 4.4 rom's don't have very much. (yet)
Performance and UI changes (if there..) are nice. On the other hand there are too many bugs to recommend it. Also, and this does not apply to many, battery life of my N4 sucks after some days on KK. No, there is no bad app. Ask my bbs stats
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Performance and UI changes (if there..) are nice. On the other hand there are too many bugs to recommend it. Also, and this does not apply to many, battery life of my N4 sucks after some days on KK. No, there is no bad app. Ask my bbs stats
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I also have to say my battery life sucks now that I'm on 4.4.
Not sure what it is but I got 12 hours TOTAL. Not even with a lot of use. Most of the time the screen was off and I didn't much use it. That's compared to a full day of life when I was on JB.
I'm wondering if a factory reset would help it.
I'm running KRT16O on my phone and loving it. However, it appears I was one of the lucky ones. No bugs, no bootloop.
KRT16S is obviously not ready for rollout. It's been soft-bricking devices like crazy it seems. I hope Google halts the OTA and fixes this. Until then, I'm sticking with 16O.
Hold off and wait.
So, there are plenty of bugs here, lags on the lock screen, lags in the applications, applications which still doesn't working, camera is making very bad pictures and so on - take a look to android 4.4 bugs forum.
I am back to 4.3 and waiting for 4.4.1.
No, i don't recommend 4.4 on the nexus 4 yet.
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Recommended. I'm on KRT16S with no problems whatsoever. Great fluidity and no bugs.
I think 4.4 has some good news, but not worth it. I was using paranoid ROOM with linaro franco kernel and i`m ready to get it back on my device.
krt16s
KRT16S is very good image,my phone is full apps and all working without problem,i use nova last beta 3 launcher and working realy fast,i dont like GEL icons(too big for me),battery is great,after 10 hours stand by time 4-6 %, ,on screen i think is wery good,betther than 4.3....no FC,no lags,everything work fluid and fast....
i flash with FB,and after flashing factory reset....
It's significantly better than 4.3 IMO. I personally clean flash for every major update after taking a backup, and I'm having absolutely no issues. UI is extremely smooth, no bugs with tethering or anything of that sort and battery life has actually improved.
I'd recommend a clean flash if you have the time, just to be thorough.
I would definitely recommend it. Performancewise...it has never been better imo! I don't experience any of those bugs mentioned above. Smoothness is just amazing.
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Thx guys!
Wow, quite difference experiences... so it appears there are bugs, but not for everyone...
How's that ART thing on the Nexus 4? Is it too experimental at this point to be of everyday use?
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Wow, quite difference experiences... so it appears there are bugs, but not for everyone...
How's that ART thing on the Nexus 4? Is it too experimental at this point to be of everyday use?
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I switched to ART immediately upon updating last week. It runs great. I've only had a few bugs(Timely takes about 10 seconds to open). Beyond that, I like it. I let my friend who is using CM 11 on his GNex try it out last night and he was impressed with the performance.
If you get KitKat to install without soft-bricking, you're going to have a good experience IMO. However, due to the risk of bootloop, I cannot recommending the update at this time in good conscience.
4.4 is the best android version so far, and with ART is amazingly smooth!
Sure - I have been using since a day after Google released the factory images and I didn't have a single problem with it. I also flashed zip for transparent nav bar in the lockscreen and installed Nova launcher beta and everything is as smooth as butter
Well, i'm not using ART so far because I don't like to use a hacked lib or an outdated app to be able to use all my apps with it.
That aside, KRT16S has been awesome so far, battery life has improved, the UI is much smoother and with ApexPro 2.2.0 beta 1 the interface has the same transparency as GEL (Which I uninstalled already. I don't like the kiddie-sized icons, it looks too toy-like).
On KTR16S ... Battery is worse than KTR16O which is worse than 4.3 for me... My experience with ART was not great, but probably because my phone is almost full of files and got full (system and free space for storage) after a long time to optimize...after that I didn't notice a better performance and missed some of my apps so returned back to dalvik ...but I would recommend KitKat....I like GEL and about its size icons I changed DPI than got great for me
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If you get KitKat to install without soft-bricking, you're going to have a good experience IMO. However, due to the risk of bootloop, I cannot recommending the update at this time in good conscience.
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I'm sorry I still carry some noobage... install without soft bricking, what do you mean by that? I'm waiting for the OTA but still undecided whether to install when it arrives. Speaking of, if it does, can I install it over 4.3 keeping my apps & settings? I'm unrooted and not planning to.
Stock, unrooted, 16GB, original Nexus 7 (with plenty of free space 6GB), but over the past few updates it has slowed to a crawl. I have wiped the App's caches and cache partition (which help for a short while), but it is still painful to use.
It is running 4.4.4 at the moment, and am wondering if a full reset will actually help for the long term. I thought the whole idea of KK was to improve performance on less capable hardware. If that is really the case, something is horribly wrong on mine.
Note that I have no interest in rooting or flashing unless it is absolutely necessary.
My original Nexus 7 with 8gb has recently been horribly slower too. I am rooted and running the latest official release of CyanogenMod. I have over 1 gb free. I am guessing this problem is fairly basic or low level and that (hopefully) others are seeing it too so it can be fixed.
16 GB and it can get painfully slow, at times.
I uninstalled Facebook which made a world of difference, and now I can reboot when it crawls to get it back to decent speeds.
Yeah, rebooting it helps, but only for a short while. So none of you have recently done a factory reset?
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Mine lags.
I use stock OC5 BTU rom.
I bought it second hand (just couple of months old) and it had knox triggered and with DBT OC5.
I had alexdr's OD2 multi CSC rom wasn't impressed with battery life so got customer recovery and installed deoxed rom.
Unrooted it to use banking apps.
Battery life was terrible so downgraded to KitKat BTU then updated to OC5 using kies.
I haven't done a factor reset after updating. So not sure if factory reset will help.
Battery life is still not very good but I can live with it.
Anyone also experience lags?
My Note 3 was better than this.
Yeah, mine does running SimplRom v3.2F
A lot of users have reported Lollipop lag- it just isn't well optimised for Note 4.
That being said, the one ROM that I've found has the least lag is SimplRom.
I'd recommend it if you're up for rooting etc.
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Mine lags.
I use stock OC5 BTU rom.
I bought it second hand (just couple of months old) and it had knox triggered and with DBT OC5.
I had alexdr's OD2 multi CSC rom wasn't impressed with battery life so got customer recovery and installed deoxed rom.
Unrooted it to use banking apps.
Battery life was terrible so downgraded to KitKat BTU then updated to OC5 using kies.
I haven't done a factor reset after updating. So not sure if factory reset will help.
Battery life is still not very good but I can live with it.
Anyone also experience lags?
My Note 3 was better than this.
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factory reset can help out in a lot of cases, but stock firmware is pretty bad yes.
mostly it's because of all the junk samsung added, but also because they messed around with the runtime and some system apps (like SystemUI that causes a LOT of lag on the recents button)
Ah man. Hope they fix it. Specs are awesome and screen is amazing! But ui is full of lag and random heating up. Moto G is so much smoother
Hi!
I sometimes have recents button lag, sometimes up to 4-5 seconds.
I also experience app crashes several times a day.
Music playback (google play music is what I use) is chopping every now and then, consistently every few minutes. This is regardless of connected headset or bluetooth.
Everything feels so not optimized. I doubt Samsung has time to work on a Note 4 software update, now that they are pushing their new shiny S6 models.
Selling this and getting a LG G4.
Im not facing any types of lags or phone being heated up.Although while playing intense games it gets warmed up.Im running stock rom without root.All I did was a factory reset after the lp upgrade
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I downgraded to KitKat now. Still lagging and stuttering present. Naturally had to factory reset with the downgrade. Battery life seems to be definitely better then Lollipop but still laggy as before. My phone can't be faulty can it?
My device doesn't have ANY FC. But I get TONS of lag with:
Photography (reviewing, and launching the camera)
Recent apps / multitasking
I am disappointed in the Note 4 for lags and poor camera quality in anything but superb lighting conditions.
Just might return it if Samsung doesn't fix these issues soon. I'll wait until the end of July, probably, and see if the update comes or not. If it does, and fixes, yay! If not, boo. And if it does come, and doesn't fix anything, double boo and never buying a Samsung device again. Shame on them!
Hey Everyone,
So I eagerly flashed the MHC19I image on my 6p, since I'm always wanting the latest and greatest, even if the phone was basically perfect for me anyways with the Feb factory image.
I've noticed though after this update the phone seems to manage RAM much differently. Before, after a fresh boot, my "free memory" would usually be 1.4 GB. This has been pretty consistent across several updates (had phone since December). After using the phone for a while, opening closing apps, going through the day, etc. the memory usage would generally be around the same, with usually 1.4 or so free.
With this build however, when I first boot up the free memory is higher, 1.6 GB, which is great. However, after just a few minutes using a few apps, the free memory drops to 1.2 or 1.3, with "system" showing around 1 GB. I definitely never saw system memory usage this high before.
Anybody else seeing this? I know Nexus 5x users have been reporting lower memory usage with MHC19I, which is great since the 5x had some performance issues. I guess this build has changed the way the phones manage their memory. I'm not saying this is a bad thing necessarily, more of an observation. Just curious if others are seeing the same or if there's some random glitch with my phone / apps.
EDIT: I am stock, not rooted.
Interesting find. I'm still on Feb factory image just as you were. Phone is running great and I'm torn between flashing to the "latest and greatest" or sticking with what has been working wonderfully. Knowing me......I'll flash it tonight and report back my findings. I didn't get this phone to NOT experiment lol.
Also, I've read a lot of people having issues flashing to that newest build. A lot of users reported TWRP issues which scares me. I did find a thread that posted an experimental release of TWRP 3.0.1 (I think) that resolved the initial issues. Guess I'll give it a go...
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Hey Everyone,
So I eagerly flashed the MHC19I image on my 6p, since I'm always wanting the latest and greatest, even if the phone was basically perfect for me anyways with the Feb factory image.
I've noticed though after this update the phone seems to manage RAM much differently. Before, after a fresh boot, my "free memory" would usually be 1.4 GB. This has been pretty consistent across several updates (had phone since December). After using the phone for a while, opening closing apps, going through the day, etc. the memory usage would generally be around the same, with usually 1.4 or so free.
With this build however, when I first boot up the free memory is higher, 1.6 GB, which is great. However, after just a few minutes using a few apps, the free memory drops to 1.2 or 1.3, with "system" showing around 1 GB. I definitely never saw system memory usage this high before.
Anybody else seeing this? I know Nexus 5x users have been reporting lower memory usage with MHC19I, which is great since the 5x had some performance issues. I guess this build has changed the way the phones manage their memory. I'm not saying this is a bad thing necessarily, more of an observation. Just curious if others are seeing the same or if there's some random glitch with my phone / apps.
EDIT: I am stock, not rooted.
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That's so odd for someone on the bleeding edge to have issues. Give it time
do remember that our device has 2762896kB of available RAM.. and if you're not using 100% of that the extra space is going to waste.
..don't get me wrong, I love having some comfort room..but I also know a few ppl whos' laptop is less powerful than our 6Ps ;]
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That's so odd for someone on the bleeding edge to have issues. Give it time
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I'm impatient. They've had a whole day to work out the bugs
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Interesting find. I'm still on Feb factory image just as you were. Phone is running great and I'm torn between flashing to the "latest and greatest" or sticking with what has been working wonderfully. Knowing me......I'll flash it tonight and report back my findings. I didn't get this phone to NOT experiment lol.
Also, I've read a lot of people having issues flashing to that newest build. A lot of users reported TWRP issues which scares me. I did find a thread that posted an experimental release of TWRP 3.0.1 (I think) that resolved the initial issues. Guess I'll give it a go...
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Yeah Feb factory image was basically perfect for me. I don't use Bluetooth much so didn't have any of those issues. I had no issues flashing, but like I said I'm stock with no root, so no twrp to worry about. And yes we buy these phones to experiment!
Update: Had the phone completely freeze on me. First it lagged like crazy and wouldn't respond to touch, then screen went blank. Had to hold down power until finally it shut off. Seems to be fine after a reboot. I definitely never had anything like that happen since I got the phone. Hopefully it was some random one off bug!
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do remember that our device has 2762896kB of available RAM.. and if you're not using 100% of that the extra space is going to waste.
..don't get me wrong, I love having some comfort room..but I also know a few ppl whos' laptop is less powerful than our 6Ps ;]
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Yep I'm aware of all that. Like I said, not really a complaint, more of an observation.
Title says it all...is upgrading to Android Q worth it?
Currently running Sky Dragon ROM and the current build I believe is based off Android 9.0.13. I've been so pleased with it I haven't thought about flashing anything else until I saw we got a stable Android Q build.
I've read plenty of threads where users were having issues flashing and just GETTING to Android 10 on the 6t. Nevermind the issues I've seen with people who are on 10 with apps misbehaving, bugs, etc.
Just looking for honest mini reviews of the 6t's latest OOS experience before I embark on the journey of getting there.
So, those of you who have made the jump, is it really worth it?
Thanks in advance!
-Pain
There is no question of worth it or not, Pie support (security especially) is now dropped, you won't have a choice if you want to keep an up-to-date and secure device.
And problems reported only concern a minority a people. And now there is a fully working TWRP for A10.
I'd say it is worth it. There are many new features which make using the phone very convenient. I haven't faced any issues with the ROM itself, just some times magisk prompt won't appear when an app requests root. ROM is stable. Also installed radioactive kernel now its running even better. I clean flashed android 10, it is always better to clean flash such major updates.
In my experience, I have a stock T-Mobile variant, converted to international version. And updated to A10 and didn't last a week without wanting to revert back. All the bugs reported in other threads all happened to me. From random reboots (just twice happened), fingerprint animation staying on after unlock, some lag on the screen when scrolling, the loss of the Play store certification along with the GPay because of this. I just decided to revert back. Downloaded the full wipe downgrade which kind of soft bricked the phone but nothing the MSM tool wouldn't fix and now I'm back on 9.0.17. I'll just wait for a more stable release. For me at least I'd say it's not worth it yet...
I wanna say wait for the official OTA release. I see a lot of people are complaining about issues with the new update. But there are also people who are full satisfied with the update with no issues. If you are using your OP6T as a daily driver I would say wait for a week or two more to see if the new update drops officially and do that.
Definitely worth it. I've had one random slowdown (resolved with a reboot) and a single crash reboot where I got stuck on the boot animation and had to hard boot, but they're the only negatives. There's a bug with the haptic vibration on key presses being stuck on maximum, but the benefits are many - great battery life, apps open much faster, fingerprint reader and general UI responsiveness is much better.
For me it's worth it especially since the baked in swipe to go back into the os, I've been using 3rd party apps for that functionality since early days...
I think it is worth it specially once I figured out how to get root. I don't have twrp installed and not sure I need it. Battery is good and I really like the launcher. No need to install any themes at this point.
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Just flashed Twrp with Magisk works perfect.