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Android Lollipop 5.0.2 Bugs / Troubles / Grievances

I just updated to lollipop using the official leaked ota for XT1068 and to my surprise it was full of stutters everywhere.
I did a complete wipe including the internal storage and reinstalled all my apps again. But seems like animations have taken a serious hit wid the newer update.
Steps to reproduce stutters or lags
1.Swipe down from status bar
Click on users icon... And click more settings... Enjoy the lag...
2. Open app drawer (newer google now launcher)
Click on home button
Enjoy microstutters...
3. Go to settings
Click on any title..
The animation that seems to come from lower part of screen towards center also lags for the first time...
Material design is said to be accompanied by fluidity which i failed to find on a 1gb ram quad core cpu phone with a dedicated a305gpu..
One of the major hits was that switching data on now requires at least 4 touches...yes i know aosp has it like this but...Moto being an oem could have made it simpler... For someone like me who toggles data several times a day, this is hectic.
One thing again moto failed to do was to remove the drop down quick setting when a secured lock screen is used. How the hell it is secure when any one can swtich off the data and swtich on air plane mode or even use my phone as a wifi hotspot..
These are no personal modifications i require but these should been a must. for an oem like moto who favours stock android..its also necessary to put some easy things rather just making aosp as it is coz aosp is no where perfect.
People who say its a low end phone and m happy with whatever i m served on a low priced phone, plz stay away.
No i am not free enough to revert to kitkat as i have a busy life currently and i cant spend my every day reinstalling apps n setting them up ...
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Few more bugs
# wifi battery drain is present wid build 5.0.2. Battery is draining even when all the wifi toggles are off (including scanning while sleep) .. Have seen this on my nexus 5 too.... U can thank google for this and motorola for not patching it..
# net is switched on and working but it is not accompanied by E/H icon near the signal icon ... This bug is random and just showed up on my device...

Tried the 3 things you mentioned, and yes, I get it as well.
I thought it was only me, phew!

Report the same to official Moto support forums for MFN ,, maybe for these, moto is still not going global release ,, may be they would notice and try to improve

[email protected] said:
Report the same to official Moto support forums for MFN ,, maybe for these, moto is still not going global release ,, may be they would notice and try to improve
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We're not soak testers though, just installed from zip.

I can confirm all three present ,,, but overall system response and especially ram management is improved ,,, I think these are aosp issues,

Not sure if bug or not, but suddenly the status bar has stopped changing colour according to the background. For example, first when I opened XDA on Chrome, the status bar changed to Orange. Same for MX Player. Now, it doesn't. Can anyone confirm or deny?

NOPE ,, checked it 3-4 times,, status bar color is still changing in xda chrome to orange (go to devices page of moto g ), and working in mx too
and the first lag pointed above (user profile ) is now much smoother now

[email protected] said:
NOPE ,, checked it 3-4 times,, status bar color is still changing in xda chrome to orange (go to devices page of moto g ), and working in mx too
and the first lag pointed above (user profile ) is now much smoother now
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Well, I changed back to "Merge apps and tabs" option and it's working in Chrome. Can't get it to work in MX Player. Which colour are you using for MX Player?

funny it was working with pink) ) selected but now its not working . In vlc its working and playstore is hard freezing sometimes ,, had to reboot it

I don't know if kk+xposed is better in performance than this stock lollipop. People that gave a try to this new build answer me please.

doctor_droid said:
One of the major hits was that switching data on now requires at least 4 touches...yes i know aosp has it like this but...Moto being an oem could have made it simpler... For someone like me who toggles data several times a day, this is hectic.
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Do you have root? If yes, feel free to try my app/widget Toggle Data 5.0 (with Locale/Tasker support). The first post includes a fully functional, xda-exclusive free version.

I read on another thread about how battery life is worse when using Lollipop compared to Kit Kat any comment?

The key combination in recovery mode doesn't work, the factory reset from settings works, is this a bug?

Wow, these lags are not present in the Brazil Soak Test version. Glad I didn't rush after the Indian 5.0.2 Soak test.

@cygery Your data toggle app is #1 nothing has ever worked for toggling data before, now I've set it up with tasker perfectly, you da real MVP

i received the soak test for 5.0.2 and i have no problems with stutters, even doing the things you stated above. (XT1064)

Received 5.0.2 from soak test.
Was first upgraded to 5.0 then 9mb update to 5.0.1 and then 39mb update to 5.0.2
No lags whatsoever!
Sent from my XT1068

I am using the 5.0.2 22.21.28 final update on my XT1063 and all the things that you said is real, the lag is AWFUL, the animation lag, when you pull down the notification bar the animation just not play well, it seems to stutter, its really annoying, i wish i could back to KK, but i cannot downgrade anymore because i updated via OTA, people are really excited for lollipop in this forum (because, well, 90% of the threads in general section is about lollipop), I feel sad for them.
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Lynse said:
I am using the 5.0.2 22.21.28 final update on my XT1063 and all the things that you said is real, the lag is AWFUL, the animation lag, when you pull down the notification bar the animation just not play well, it seems to stutter, its really annoying, i wish i could back to KK, but i cannot downgrade anymore because i updated via OTA, people are really excited for lollipop in this forum (because, well, 90% of the threads in general section is about lollipop), I feel sad for them.
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Woww, that's no good
Thanks for a headup, I'll hold off the update for now.

votinh said:
Woww, that's no good
Thanks for a headup, I'll hold off the update for now.
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well, you can update if animations stuttering at some points after you start to do multitasking don't bother you, the system is pretty usable, but these animations lag is a killer for me, because material design its supposed to be more fluid than holo, and its not (at least on this device), but there's no lag for open apps and so on.
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Lollipop reviews

What are your thoughts on the update
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Very fast and smooth. Don't like the colors. Custom romz based on LP should really fly. Can't wait.

tommason1968 said:
What are your thoughts on the update
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Love it. Seems a little buggy occasionally, slows down or apps crash. I may do a backup and factory reset/restore and see if that's better.
When it's not slowing down it's very snappy. Notifications are awesome.
I wish lockscreen notifications were a little more customizable. Only options available are:
Show all content
Hide Sensitive Content
Do not show notifications
What's missing is one that should say, "Do not show persistent notifications" For instance, I use copy bubble and sprint direct connect which are always in my notification panel. I had to turn that off or it will always show up on my lock screen.
I can't attest to touchwiz, I looked at it for a moment and then went back to Nova.

tommason1968 said:
What are your thoughts on the update
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I like that it's smoother, but for a second i thought my update had reverted. I was hoping it had a more lollipop look, but i guess i can't complain.
As for the recents app, it's not as instant as i would like it to be , but that's fine too. I wish xposed worked because this DPI is driving me crazy, it's so ****ing big!.
overall i like it more than kitkat, just because it's lollipop and buttery smooth. Customization should come soon, so I will just to wait patiently.

Battery life is horrible! I hope I can go back to kk without issues. Did this update radio?

dbug2008 said:
Battery life is horrible! I hope I can go back to kk without issues. Did this update radio?
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Mine seems pretty good. I've been using it checking it out all day.
Have you cleared the cache and restarted afterwards?

The update/upgrade was not running smooth. Jerky screen, some apps crashing. Then I did factory reset and reinstalled my apps fresh. Now it is very responsive.
The only thing I can't figure out is why my pictures in /storage/extSdCard/DCIM/Camera/ are not visible in the Gallery app. New pictures taken with the camera are saved in that same directory and are visible, but not the old ones. They are visible however in a file explorer.
In fact none of the media files on my extSdCard are visible in Gallery or Video. They are only visible in a file explorer.
Otherwise I like it....even the weird colors.
To get the Gallery to see the old photos and videos, I created new empty folders using a file manager then copied the photo/video contents of the old folders into the new empty folders.

so far so good on my end... I did a hard reset after the update and have yet to experience any bugs, lags, or force closes. I use the Google Now Launcher and the new animations look great. Can't speak for battery life yet as I just updated this morning but I'm not too worried as the Note 4 has always been great.
I did notice when I was initially on TouchWiz the status bar had a gradient tint to it... anyone else seeing this? It had always been fully transparent before

My battery life seems better with lollipop. I love the new colors in messaging. And i can't remember but the keyboard seems different. I like it a lot more the letters seem spaced out a little further and makes it easier to type.

touch_rules said:
Mine seems pretty good. I've been using it checking it out all day.
Have you cleared the cache and restarted afterwards?
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Mines decent

It's like having a new phone. It's just that smooth. Samsung should be proud of their work.
OTOH, I love the new colors during the day, but at night it would be awesome to have a blacked out color scheme.

Agree with someone else's comment that it feels like an entirely new phone (even though Kitkat wasn't that bad).
Havent had it long enough to test battery life. Do wish there was the ability to swipe between tabs like the dialer and the ability to remove persistent notifications.
Lollipop FTW

emeraldayotte said:
Agree with someone else's comment that it feels like an entirely new phone (even though Kitkat wasn't that bad).
Havent had it long enough to test battery life. Do wish there was the ability to swipe between tabs like the dialer and the ability to remove persistent notifications.
Lollipop FTW
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Yup. Seems like a new phone. Better memory management and faster. Very smooth.

Really amazing and smooth.

touch_rules said:
Love it. Seems a little buggy occasionally, slows down or apps crash. I may do a backup and factory reset/restore and see if that's better.
When it's not slowing down it's very snappy. Notifications are awesome.
I wish lockscreen notifications were a little more customizable. Only options available are:
Show all content
Hide Sensitive Content
Do not show notifications
What's missing is one that should say, "Do not show persistent notifications" For instance, I use copy bubble and sprint direct connect which are always in my notification panel. I had to turn that off or it will always show up on my lock screen.
I can't attest to touchwiz, I looked at it for a moment and then went back to Nova.
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I would suggest the data reset option. I was having similar crash/slowness
So I uberwiped the phone in TWRP, then ODIN back to NK2 KK, upgraded OTA to L, did another factory data reset, then set up phone/rooted/installed TWRP. Phone is wayyyy faster and more responsive and zero crashes now
I scored a 52408 on ANTUTU benchmark with a stock rom and kernel.
Can not wait for custom LP roms, this phone will be killer at that point
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dbug2008 said:
Battery life is horrible! I hope I can go back to kk without issues. Did this update radio?
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Try a data reset, I had simlar issues and now they seem to be gone
You have to remember, the OTA update was over 1GB (compressed) and it completely rewrote the phones memory AND changed the run time to ART. You should probably expect some issues

egotonusf said:
I would suggest the data reset option. I was having similar crash/slowness
So I uberwiped the phone in TWRP, then ODIN back to NK2 KK, upgraded OTA to L, did another factory data reset, then set up phone/rooted/installed TWRP. Phone is wayyyy faster and more responsive and zero crashes now
I scored a 52408 on ANTUTU benchmark with a stock rom and kernel.
Can not wait for custom LP roms, this phone will be killer at that point
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Try a data reset, I had simlar issues and now they seem to be gone
You have to remember, the OTA update was over 1GB (compressed) and it completely rewrote the phones memory AND changed the run time to ART. You should probably expect some issues
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Thanks, backing up my internal storage now and getting ready to wipe and clean install.

LP... sorry I can not wait for a way to change all the flipping colors... had to be designed by a woman.

Very snappy and smooth, but only after I wiped data and restored my apps via titanium.
Can't opine on battery use yet, I've been using the phone like crazy.

ibcenu said:
LP... sorry I can not wait for a way to change all the flipping colors... had to be designed by a woman.
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That's what I'm sayin! I haven't taken the ota yet. I'm just kicking back listening to user coments on the ota. My plan is to stay on my KK rom until I finish a dark themed Lolipop version. I'm not a fan of all this white and funny looking pastels.

tx_dbs_tx said:
That's what I'm sayin! I haven't taken the ota yet. I'm just kicking back listening to user coments on the ota. My plan is to stay on my KK rom until I finish a dark themed Lolipop version. I'm not a fan of all this white and funny looking pastels.
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Basically same here. Not updating till kernels are equally as far as kk, can theme some, and exposed works. I'm just fine on Xnote rc2 with AEL 7.2 kernel.

Lollipop vs kitkat : feedback

Hi all,
I made this post to enhance your experience with the Z3C. Indeed I thought since a few days that I was going to throw away my phone because of multitasking. This issue is not clear at all and not all people seemed to be touched by this. However I am, definitely.
This is my experience on lollipop: I can’t have 5 apps running at the same time, even if they’re very light. For example if I’m listening to music and using chrome, everytime I switch to another app, it needs to start again. It gets really annoying when I’m using some apps at the same time and I lose lots of time.
My first idea was to switch to another phone (even if I love the Z3C for other qualities like battery life or how compact it is) but this issue seems to touch every phone except HTC’s but I’m not happy with their battery life. My last choice was the iPhone 6 to get a nice user experience.
Then I thought a little and I remembered that in fact my experience was much much better on KitKat.
So I decided to try again kitkat and OMG!!! I couldn’t get back to L, seriously. If you have the same issues as I have, it’s definitely a solution.
So of course you’ll lose some interesting stuff from Lollipop and the interface doesn’t look as nice as on L but it is definitely worth it.
Indeed on Kitkat the battery is at least equal, maybe better.
But all the difference is about performances: you can’t even compare it. When I switched from KK to L I didn’t realize and I got accommodate to it but actually in this way we can feel the difference without any hesitation.
Now I can use at least 8 apps at the same time, everything is snappier and quicker. Really it changes my smartphone life.
So if you’re ready to leave L, join me with KK and you won’t regret. You’ll get a new phone (even it’s kinda absurd) and you’ll never want to change it for another. That’s the phone I have liked.

Thx for the comparison
I haven't tried Lollipop because there is nothing wrong with KitKat (+ROOT!) and there is nothing about Lollipop that I really need, it's mostly just eye-candy imho. Oh yes there is one small thing: The sparkly unlock animation in KK is the worst, haven't found a way to get rid of it yet... (except using a 3rd party lockscreen - which is something I'm not willing to do because I love my lockscreen widgets, any suggestions?)
If you miss the Lollipop stuff here's some suggestions:
-NiLS(app): Gives you customizable lockscreen notifications like Lollipop with any lockscreen
-Nova Launcher(app): Just got a huge Lollipop update, the average person won't know the difference to lollipop when looking at the launcher
-Install Lollipop theme to change nav-bar icons (or use xposed or any other method)
-Sony is pretty amazing with app updates, so all the independent apps like Music are Material Design anyway
Cheers

Well. The problem with multitasking happens on all Xperia Z3 phones with Sony´s Lollipop (Yes, I confirmed it after test with 5 different Xperia Z3 phones from friends and family).
After I get frustrated with this problem, I also think in change the phone for an iPhone, but lol, iPhone have similar problems with browsers that can´t keep various tabs opened and ends refreshing all tabs, and other similar multitasking problems because of limited ram. I maybe change my Z3 for an Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge in a month (Or when the Galaxy S6 gets Android 5.1 update) because the camera of the Z3 is very bad in quality for me, but until then, I found a "fix" for the multitasking problem:
I finally "fixed" it. ¿How?: Simple, I just installed Cyanogenmod 12.1 in my phone, and it is just... just, very beatiful in multitasking. I can have a loooot of apps opened and get back to one app after a day and they are still opened, it´s is what I ever expected from a phone like Xperia Z3, is amazing. It is because Cyanogenmod is always updated and have all the latest fixes and their own fixes also. I heard that they have fixed more than 51 memory leaks (included the critical ones) in his 12.1 version. Also I get in love with Cyanogenmod extra features.
Yes, I lose all DRM protected features from camera and also PS4 Remote, but meh, camera sucks anyway in stock firmware, and is only a little worse in Cyanogenmod. Just to be careful I backed up my TA partition before unlock my bootloader and go into cyanogenmod.
Hope this helps to all guys that have lollipop, and need a true multitasking on his Xperia Z3 or Z3 Compact.

Aside from multitasking Lollipop seems still very beta on xperia to me. Mind u I own the Smartphone for only 3 days, but the amount of times it made me go nuts, not even my evo 3d managed over 3 years. Phone ran really hot and sort of slugish on lp, but waht reall drove me crazy was Bluetooth Audio... It made my whole phone crash after starting to crackle on my soundwaver (bluetooth speaker).... It wouldnt even play over pc... Back to kitkst and all is fine and dandy. I can actually feel i run a newer handset than before (evo 3D). Ill probably switch to CM some timecdown the road, when lp is fully working.

The stock lollipop build is beta version at best. The debloated lollipop build found here on XDA is beyond acceptable, almost good. The stock kitkat build, though, still has the upper hand. I reverted back today to an old backup and there's no match between the debloated lollipop and the stock kitkat. Stock kitkat wins hands down.

For some balance ive no such issues with lollipop albeit i agree there isnt much of an incentive to upgrade from kitkat. I dont use chrome though. Chrome uses a scary lot of memory. (i use firefox)
Cm12 uses less memory than stock sony roms so that leaves more to chrome, which explains that i guess.

My only complaint is few UI elements that are not very material, you know.

I don´t use Chrome too, I use Cm Browser that dont use a lot of Ram too...
The problem is not how much Ram uses the system, the problem is that Stock Sony in 5.0.2 have a Bad Memory Management and still have Memory Leaks (Except the crititcal ones that are already fixed in Sony Stock Lollipop Firm).
In CM 12.1 a loot of those memory leaks are already fixed, so that also explains why Cyanogenmod works a lot better with multitasking and can keep a lot of apps without close.

clouds5 said:
Thx for the comparison
I haven't tried Lollipop because there is nothing wrong with KitKat (+ROOT!) and there is nothing about Lollipop that I really need, it's mostly just eye-candy imho. Oh yes there is one small thing: The sparkly unlock animation in KK is the worst, haven't found a way to get rid of it yet... (except using a 3rd party lockscreen - which is something I'm not willing to do because I love my lockscreen widgets, any suggestions?)
If you miss the Lollipop stuff here's some suggestions:
-NiLS(app): Gives you customizable lockscreen notifications like Lollipop with any lockscreen
-Nova Launcher(app): Just got a huge Lollipop update, the average person won't know the difference to lollipop when looking at the launcher
-Install Lollipop theme to change nav-bar icons (or use xposed or any other method)
-Sony is pretty amazing with app updates, so all the independent apps like Music are Material Design anyway
Cheers
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Thanks for the apps. I'm happy not to be the only one to have made this step!
iFlasher said:
Well. The problem with multitasking happens on all Xperia Z3 phones with Sony´s Lollipop (Yes, I confirmed it after test with 5 different Xperia Z3 phones from friends and family).
After I get frustrated with this problem, I also think in change the phone for an iPhone, but lol, iPhone have similar problems with browsers that can´t keep various tabs opened and ends refreshing all tabs, and other similar multitasking problems because of limited ram. I maybe change my Z3 for an Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge in a month (Or when the Galaxy S6 gets Android 5.1 update) because the camera of the Z3 is very bad in quality for me, but until then, I found a "fix" for the multitasking problem:
I finally "fixed" it. ¿How?: Simple, I just installed Cyanogenmod 12.1 in my phone, and it is just... just, very beatiful in multitasking. I can have a loooot of apps opened and get back to one app after a day and they are still opened, it´s is what I ever expected from a phone like Xperia Z3, is amazing. It is because Cyanogenmod is always updated and have all the latest fixes and their own fixes also. I heard that they have fixed more than 51 memory leaks (included the critical ones) in his 12.1 version. Also I get in love with Cyanogenmod extra features.
Yes, I lose all DRM protected features from camera and also PS4 Remote, but meh, camera sucks anyway in stock firmware, and is only a little worse in Cyanogenmod. Just to be careful I backed up my TA partition before unlock my bootloader and go into cyanogenmod.
Hope this helps to all guys that have lollipop, and need a true multitasking on his Xperia Z3 or Z3 Compact.
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CM12.1 alternative is good to know then. If I miss L too much, I guess I'll give a try to CM.

clouds5 said:
Thx for the comparison
I haven't tried Lollipop because there is nothing wrong with KitKat (+ROOT!) and there is nothing about Lollipop that I really need, it's mostly just eye-candy imho. Oh yes there is one small thing: The sparkly unlock animation in KK is the worst, haven't found a way to get rid of it yet... (except using a 3rd party lockscreen - which is something I'm not willing to do because I love my lockscreen widgets, any suggestions?)
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Xposed Installer + Xperia Xposed should make you happy.

I see lollipop better than kitkat, phone run faster and smoother. Good update

Son Lam said:
I see lollipop better than kitkat, phone run faster and smoother. Good update
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Yes, is smoother, but we are talking about the multitasking that is not so good as it have to be...

KitKat has much more battery time than lollipop.
What do yolu think

draligus said:
KitKat has much more battery time than lollipop.
What do yolu think
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I think that it's a wrong statement. The same power usage curves and same percentage at the end of the day for me.
However, you might be using apps that don't behave well on LP.

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I think that it's a wrong statement. The same power usage curves and same percentage at the end of the day for me.
However, you might be using apps that don't behave well on LP.
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that was my observation.

KK were amazing for my needs (good battery, smooth).
Lollipop looks just the same.
I always disable animations and whatnot, so I'm kind of an odd user.

to me LLP is good except the quick toggle and sound profile
i need to swipe twice for quick toggle and to swipe twice to close the quick toggle.
using volume button for sound profile annoys me as when i wanna silent my phone while plating music can't be done
multitasking so far is good for me
battery life is the same and in fact idle time is better in LLP
most of the apps improve smoothness in LLP except a few

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Could you elaborate on that

I have tried to like Lollipop, but the annoyances i really have, is the swipe down quick menu, prefer the kitkat one, and i really dislike, the user icon on the Lockscreen status bar, At the moment, i have reverted back to kitkat, but would love to give lollipop more time, but after a day, i alway's revert back.

clouds5 said:
Could you elaborate on that
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You wanted to get rid of the "sparkly unlock animation" of your Z3 Compact, right?
Do you want the classic Android locker instead?
The original Xperia unlock:
http://i.imgur.com/umsERNx.png
Install Xperia Xposed then this:
http://i.imgur.com/VQOD6ay.png
(reboot)
You activate this:
http://i.imgur.com/92fLyDf.png
And you get this:
http://i.imgur.com/ZOOTdTn.png

MM Android 6.0.1 Ho do you find with the new hydrogen ROM?

Do you find any bugs or improvement?
I've never installed any hydrogen ROM (always oxygen) but i'm curious to know if MM is more fluid than LP.
Does doze works?

Ganzdroid said:
Do you find any bugs or improvement?
I've never installed any hydrogen ROM (always oxygen) but i'm curious to know if MM is more fluid than LP.
Does doze works?
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Well, I've tested it. I can say that the Fingerprint is a huge improvement compare to OxygenOS' one. For the rest of the ROM, it seems to be pretty solid and smooth. I don't tested it more than 20 minutes (really don't like HydrogenOS..), but yeah, it seems to be a good improvement compare to OxygenOS in general. But I've had some troubles going back to OxygenOS, so if you want to test it out by yourself, be sure TO BACKUP EVERYTHING important into your PC (or out your phone).
But yeah, I hope OxygenOS will be as fast and stable as HydrogenOS is.

casual_kikoo said:
But yeah, I hope OxygenOS will be as fast and stable as HydrogenOS is.
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Here's hoping. I just can't get used to H2OS any time I've tried it. I guess I'd still rather use something closer to stock Android, even if it doesn't perform as well!

But if you change hidrogen launcher (with nova or GEL) doesn't seems like a vanilla ROM? Are there other changes from Oxygen over the quick settings and the launcher?
p.s. is only in english and chinese?

Ganzdroid said:
But if you change hidrogen launcher (with nova or GEL) doesn't seems like a vanilla ROM? Are there other changes from Oxygen over the quick settings and the launcher?
p.s. is only in english and chinese?
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yes, only 2 language
the difference are in, launcher, notification, quick setting, different swipe (left for close app o erase notification, right for open notification or lock app, so you can't kill it in multitasking)

I've been running it for a couple of days. First thing I did was to remove some of the Chinese stuff. Second was to change the launcher.
There are fewer options for customization, probably because MM is new to the opt, and that its beta software.
The thing I miss is the automatic activation of do not disturb from the cm builds, not a deal breaker. There's no dark theme, but layers manager seems to do the trick.
It's fast, FP works better than any lollipop rom I've tried and at par or better with the FP on iPhone.
The only problem I e noticed with camera is occasionally it's slow to respond, possible due to doze, also the audio level seems to vary when recording video.
I didn't notice smart lock, but my email server prevents me from using it anyways.
The sound quality from the speaker seems clearer.
I've always had poor battery life battery is much improved, and it got better when I removed Facebook, this is subjective as I haven't tested it out much.
Some of the settings are hard to find, but it a learning curve.
Wifi will drop when doing a soft reboot, for theme changes, and it won't reboot into recovery with flashify, or reboot at all with xposed, again no big deal. Cycling wifi on/off in control panel brings it back I've occasionally lost the 4G/3G indicator, but data is still active, again cycling data on/off brings it back.
A few xposed modules won't work with mm, but that's kind of DUH, they aren't updated. I'm impatient for "alert slider" to get an update, as the flashlight on is very useful to me. I haven't installed many modules as they all are for lollipop. YouTube background playback works.
LTE seems to work, but it says 4G, I can use either sim and get LTE, something I missed on any other MM rom.
I did lose my twrp, but I flashed it over adb, and it now working with power and vol+

I installed kingmericans hos today. Like everyone has noticed FP is blazing fast. Rest is more or less the same as LP hos. A few lags here and there but it's definitely way better than OOS. Even I CNT get used to hos. I revert back to vanilla android eventually but I'm glad at least one plus got one of their ROMs to be nice.

I found it fast and stable. Great job, I was happy in lollipop, now I'm 10x times happier with this device even we don't have custom kernels yet. (Of course nobody will work in a kernel for a leaked beta)
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rafikirm said:
yes, only 2 language
the difference are in, launcher, notification, quick setting, different swipe (left for close app o erase notification, right for open notification or lock app, so you can't kill it in multitasking)
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Not anymore, you can swipe both sides to erase notification or recent app. That thing was on lollipop h2os.
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Thanks guys, let us know if doze work properly and how is battery life!

Ganzdroid said:
Thanks guys, let us know if doze work properly and how is battery life!
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For me was terrible. Now I clean flash it again and it looks better, I will test a few more days. Now I have 3h screen with maps 40m (GPS), WiFi and 4G, and 47% left.
I should erase logkits and all that stuff. I don't do it because I have done it before (before 2nd clean flash) and i had terrible battery life.
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I should erase logkits and all that stuff. Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE said:
What's logkits? is it one of the chinese bloatware app?
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Ganzdroid said:
What's logkits? is it one of the chinese bloatware app?
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No, it comes always in oxygen hydrogen or whatever. Oemlogkit and all that stuff.
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I used the leak for 2 days had a hard time coming back so i wouldnt recommend it.... But there were many bugs beyond that, the phone was extremely fast and fp sensor was just amazing didnt get an error in 2 days that ive used and but bugs do persist.. Lets just wait for the stock oos, its gonna be a great update

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.. Lets just wait for the stock oos, its gonna be a great update
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Let's hope it comes quickly
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Using Kingmercians Hydrogen OS and with Google Now Launcher it is really quite amazing. Sure, it isn't as good as Oxygen, but it is Marshmallow and that alone makes it worth it. You can customize Hydrogen OS to be perfectly OK and while Oxygen is indeed preferred I'd rather use this until Oxygen comes out and then just install Oxygen, it's not like it is hard to switch ROM's.

Well it's butter. Can't stand OOS after this. Xposed works so customization galore. Of course battery is much better. Heck even Viper works. Finally OP2 works.

H²OS MM <3
Hey !
I just give my personal opinion.
I find this first beta v1.0.2 & TWRP 3.0.0 by Kingmercians incredibly robust and fluid.
The FP sensor is a marvel and is faster than the iPhone 6 Plus ! ;p
In addition it consumes nothing with Servicely ! And the best part about it is that the power save mode is 100% lag free !
I tried to return the phone in all directions, with Xposed v80 where I encountered some problems with Gravity Box...
Especially the percentage of battery level that does not stop to make small jumps. If I put the default settings in Gravity Box and puts the battery percentage from the system menu, it disappears in seconds...
(So I deleted Gravity Box and everything is back to normal when you reboot.)
If not except it Locale More works very well too. (For me it's in French !)
One last thing if I had the choice the first time I used the Oneplus 2 to change the preinstalled ROM (OOS), I would do it again when we see H²OS is its superb IOS like interface.
At any point of view I prefer H²OS.
Do not forget this is a beta, some bug not very important, works better than OxygenOS 2.2.0, there is no doubt.
Peace.

Is it possible to go back to lollipop?

I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?

At worst you will softbrick it... I doubt it would hardbrick, but most of the threads where people have tried to downgrade have not gone well but they eventually get it working. Moto's don't like to be downgraded, the big problem is the partition table changes from Lollipop to Marshmallow and it won't go back. Although I don't know about this device specifically, but several older Moto's would brick if you downgraded then took an OTA later due to the mismatch of bootload and gpt partition table versions.
I would try to find solutions to your problems with MM rather than downgrade... I don't have any issues with any of the problems you are stating with echo, camera launch (mine is ready to take pictures in less than 2 seconds from either lock screen or icon), and Facebook works fine. Guess I am a little puzzled, but then again I am on 6.0.0 on the Pure.

akeflo said:
I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?
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It is possible if you have a TWRP backup of lollipop. I have done it before and it does work.

!Iamdeath! said:
It is possible if you have a TWRP backup of lollipop. I have done it before and it does work.
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It's possible even without a backup too.

Spasticdroid said:
It's possible even without a backup too.
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It is possible, but as mentioned by @acejavelin, it could cause issues later. The better option is to try and work out the current issues. Since the OP obviously has TWRP installed, my recommendation for stock ROM is to possibly look at apps that may be the culprits. Other options can include custom kernels.

Thank you so much everyone! But then, how do i do it? Is there anyone who has done it before and could help me? I don't have a lollipop backup on my TWRP btw..

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At worst you will softbrick it... I doubt it would hardbrick, but most of the threads where people have tried to downgrade have not gone well but they eventually get it working. Moto's don't like to be downgraded, the big problem is the partition table changes from Lollipop to Marshmallow and it won't go back. Although I don't know about this device specifically, but several older Moto's would brick if you downgraded then took an OTA later due to the mismatch of bootload and gpt partition table versions.
I would try to find solutions to your problems with MM rather than downgrade... I don't have any issues with any of the problems you are stating with echo, camera launch (mine is ready to take pictures in less than 2 seconds from either lock screen or icon), and Facebook works fine. Guess I am a little puzzled, but then again I am on 6.0.0 on the Pure.
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On stock ROM everything works but lags, but for example on cm13 videos on facebook won't playback, switching to front facing camera takes maybe 10 seconds and the echo is there when speaking on the phone. What ROM are you using?

akeflo said:
On stock ROM everything works but lags, but for example on cm13 videos on facebook won't playback, switching to front facing camera takes maybe 10 seconds and the echo is there when speaking on the phone. What ROM are you using?
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Stock, and I have no "lag" to speak of, but my point of references lately are the Moto G3, Nexus 4, and Lumia 640 LTE so by these standard the Pure is a Ferrari by comparison.
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I'm using stock with no lag. I get the occasional stutter every now and then but that has been the case with every Android I have owned. Have you gone to developer options and changed the Windows animation scale and Transition animation scale to 0.5? This might help.

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Stock, and I have no "lag" to speak of, but my point of references lately are the Moto G3, Nexus 4, and Lumia 640 LTE so by these standard the Pure is a Ferrari by comparison.
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Haha i see! Well my comparison is with a Nexus 5x and an LG G2 and i hardly can't tell a difference between my moto and the LG G2 with a cyanogen based ROM. The Nexus is clearly the smoothest of all three.

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I'm using stock with no lag. I get the occasional stutter every now and then but that has been the case with every Android I have owned. Have you gone to developer options and changed the Windows animation scale and Transition animation scale to 0.5? This might help.
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Yes every android has some lag now and then but my Nexus 5X ran much smoother than the Moto X. It lags when i open the app drawer for instance which is the most simple task ever. It really pisses me off. I will try changing animation speed, thank you.

akeflo said:
I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?
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I flashed Android Lollipop many times but wifi doesn't work so I am not able to log in into Google account so I flash back marshmallow. I especially face serious lag when scrolling through YouTube in marshmallow.

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I flashed Android Lollipop many times but wifi doesn't work so I am not able to log in into Google account so I flash back marshmallow. I especially face serious lag when scrolling through YouTube in marshmallow.
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Are you clean flashing? I've flashed several different roms and none of them have lagged for me the slightest bit.
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