Is it possible to go back to lollipop? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?

At worst you will softbrick it... I doubt it would hardbrick, but most of the threads where people have tried to downgrade have not gone well but they eventually get it working. Moto's don't like to be downgraded, the big problem is the partition table changes from Lollipop to Marshmallow and it won't go back. Although I don't know about this device specifically, but several older Moto's would brick if you downgraded then took an OTA later due to the mismatch of bootload and gpt partition table versions.
I would try to find solutions to your problems with MM rather than downgrade... I don't have any issues with any of the problems you are stating with echo, camera launch (mine is ready to take pictures in less than 2 seconds from either lock screen or icon), and Facebook works fine. Guess I am a little puzzled, but then again I am on 6.0.0 on the Pure.

akeflo said:
I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?
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It is possible if you have a TWRP backup of lollipop. I have done it before and it does work.

!Iamdeath! said:
It is possible if you have a TWRP backup of lollipop. I have done it before and it does work.
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It's possible even without a backup too.

Spasticdroid said:
It's possible even without a backup too.
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It is possible, but as mentioned by @acejavelin, it could cause issues later. The better option is to try and work out the current issues. Since the OP obviously has TWRP installed, my recommendation for stock ROM is to possibly look at apps that may be the culprits. Other options can include custom kernels.

Thank you so much everyone! But then, how do i do it? Is there anyone who has done it before and could help me? I don't have a lollipop backup on my TWRP btw..

acejavelin said:
At worst you will softbrick it... I doubt it would hardbrick, but most of the threads where people have tried to downgrade have not gone well but they eventually get it working. Moto's don't like to be downgraded, the big problem is the partition table changes from Lollipop to Marshmallow and it won't go back. Although I don't know about this device specifically, but several older Moto's would brick if you downgraded then took an OTA later due to the mismatch of bootload and gpt partition table versions.
I would try to find solutions to your problems with MM rather than downgrade... I don't have any issues with any of the problems you are stating with echo, camera launch (mine is ready to take pictures in less than 2 seconds from either lock screen or icon), and Facebook works fine. Guess I am a little puzzled, but then again I am on 6.0.0 on the Pure.
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On stock ROM everything works but lags, but for example on cm13 videos on facebook won't playback, switching to front facing camera takes maybe 10 seconds and the echo is there when speaking on the phone. What ROM are you using?

akeflo said:
On stock ROM everything works but lags, but for example on cm13 videos on facebook won't playback, switching to front facing camera takes maybe 10 seconds and the echo is there when speaking on the phone. What ROM are you using?
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Stock, and I have no "lag" to speak of, but my point of references lately are the Moto G3, Nexus 4, and Lumia 640 LTE so by these standard the Pure is a Ferrari by comparison.
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I'm using stock with no lag. I get the occasional stutter every now and then but that has been the case with every Android I have owned. Have you gone to developer options and changed the Windows animation scale and Transition animation scale to 0.5? This might help.

acejavelin said:
Stock, and I have no "lag" to speak of, but my point of references lately are the Moto G3, Nexus 4, and Lumia 640 LTE so by these standard the Pure is a Ferrari by comparison.
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Haha i see! Well my comparison is with a Nexus 5x and an LG G2 and i hardly can't tell a difference between my moto and the LG G2 with a cyanogen based ROM. The Nexus is clearly the smoothest of all three.

aybarrap1 said:
I'm using stock with no lag. I get the occasional stutter every now and then but that has been the case with every Android I have owned. Have you gone to developer options and changed the Windows animation scale and Transition animation scale to 0.5? This might help.
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Yes every android has some lag now and then but my Nexus 5X ran much smoother than the Moto X. It lags when i open the app drawer for instance which is the most simple task ever. It really pisses me off. I will try changing animation speed, thank you.

akeflo said:
I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?
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I flashed Android Lollipop many times but wifi doesn't work so I am not able to log in into Google account so I flash back marshmallow. I especially face serious lag when scrolling through YouTube in marshmallow.

[email protected] said:
I flashed Android Lollipop many times but wifi doesn't work so I am not able to log in into Google account so I flash back marshmallow. I especially face serious lag when scrolling through YouTube in marshmallow.
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Are you clean flashing? I've flashed several different roms and none of them have lagged for me the slightest bit.
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Kit Kat 4.4 User Veiws

Hi
Before I take the plunge along with many others
Can anybody who has updated to 4.4 with the official LG update give there view on Pros and cons of the update
A reading a few its not much faster and no extras !
eg) Faster ? Dim Screen Problem ? Extra Apps?
I like
Generally I think it is a bit smoother and generally everything is running better for me some apps like mxplayer no like kitkat but the stock is fine until they update. Do not update if you want to be able to switch between roms, tried to reinstall cwm/twrp and for me gets stuck in fastboot so you will need to be patient till they find a new exploit. New keyboard in black is pretty awesome and transparent bars definitly refine the look as well as the white notification icons. Couple new lg apps like On screen phone so can control on pc and copy files etc pretty cool but I think its novelty value.
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Generally I think it is a bit smoother and generally everything is running better for me some apps like mxplayer no like kitkat but the stock is fine until they update. Do not update if you want to be able to switch between roms, tried to reinstall cwm/twrp and for me gets stuck in fastboot so you will need to be patient till they find a new exploit. New keyboard in black is pretty awesome and transparent bars definitly refine the look as well as the white notification icons. Couple new lg apps like On screen phone so can control on pc and copy files etc pretty cool but I think its novelty value.
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Thanks that what a lot seem to be saying "No Big Deal "
brian566 said:
Thanks that what a lot seem to be saying "No Big Deal "
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If you are not intending on going aosp it is definitely worth the upgrade as you should see apps running better because of the way kitkat uses the ram, I have to say even though not a huge difference in UI it definitely is better optimized and using less ram for the system. Definitely if you can get 4.4.2 do it, if you choose to stay lg stock I would suggest you install xposed framework and change it how you want to be :victory:
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Generally I think it is a bit smoother and generally everything is running better for me some apps like mxplayer no like kitkat but the stock is fine until they update.
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I'm using MXPlayer on Mahdi-rom with Kitkat and I haven't seen any problems. What are the problems you're talking about?
woody1 said:
I'm using MXPlayer on Mahdi-rom with Kitkat and I haven't seen any problems. What are the problems you're talking about?
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on the stock 4.4.2 have some issues with playback. Video quality seems a bit more choppy, and the colour/contrast seems off vs the stock player. I have heard other people have couple problems but can't say for all. Maybe it is using wrong codec but I just using the automatic setup...
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on the stock 4.4.2 have some issues with playback. Video quality seems a bit more choppy, and the colour/contrast seems off vs the stock player. I have heard other people have couple problems but can't say for all. Maybe it is using wrong codec but I just using the automatic setup...
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I've read some accounts that MXPlayer had some Kitkat problems a few months ago, but they were supposed to have been fixed back in December. I'm not seeing problems at all. You might want to try re-installing MXPlayer to see if that fixes it for you.
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on the stock 4.4.2 have some issues with playback. Video quality seems a bit more choppy, and the colour/contrast seems off vs the stock player. I have heard other people have couple problems but can't say for all. Maybe it is using wrong codec but I just using the automatic setup...
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I switched to BS Player Free as my standard video player as I have long felt it to be the better choice.
Lastpass!
Lastpass Premium users will love the upgrade. The Lastpass app can natively fill in usernames and passwords on websites in Chrome, without having to activate the Lastpass input method. It just detects the login page, pops up a prompt, and you hit yes to log in. Fantastic.
Aside from that, it seems smoother. When you swipe down the notification menu, the settings button is in the corner where it should be, so that's nice. Oh, and the LG keyboard (which I love to bits) now has a bunch of themes. There's a chance that I just didn't notice them before the update.
Basically, I've had no problems at all, and a bunch of apps are now able to make use of Kitkat features. It's not so much "why would I upgrade?" as "why on Earth wouldn't I upgrade?"
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I switched to BS Player Free as my standard video player as I have long felt it to be the better choice.
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I like bsplayer but the ac3 issue the player during the codec dispute leans me toward the stock player. I use bsplayer as my backup player for troubled files.
One issue I've run into with 4.4 build 20a are phantom screen presses when turning on the screen again after not using the g pad for a bit. I usually just urn off the screen for 5 seconds and then turn it back off and everything is working again. I should add I did a dirty install over 4.2.2 to 4.4.2, so chances are a wipe of the data would fix it. I'm going to do the 2 cache wipes and see if I get the problem again. I'm posting this here to see if anyone else has the problem.
LBJM said:
I like bsplayer but the ac3 issue the player during the codec dispute leans me toward the stock player. I use bsplayer as my backup player for troubled files.
One issue I've run into with 4.4 build 20a are phantom screen presses when turning on the screen again after not using the g pad for a bit. I usually just urn off the screen for 5 seconds and then turn it back off and everything is working again. I should add I did a dirty install over 4.2.2 to 4.4.2, so chances are a wipe of the data would fix it. I'm going to do the 2 cache wipes and see if I get the problem again. I'm posting this here to see if anyone else has the problem.
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I have no issues playing videos encoded with AC3 in BS Player (up-to-date).
Subtleone said:
I have no issues playing videos encoded with AC3 in BS Player (up-to-date).
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Maybe they fixed the problem. Here's an old thread on it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389418
When I had my G2 KK made knock on much more responsive. So far, for me, KK has made no difference on my G-Pad.
stevessvt said:
When I had my G2 KK made knock on much more responsive. So far, for me, KK has made no difference on my G-Pad.
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Was it really broken to begin with? I found that once you got used to knocking at the right place with the right force applied, it works almost all the time. The KK update seems not to change much, if anything about this.
Now, for some reason KK has been causing the stock video player to skip and hold frames much more than usual. I use it to play videos out via slimport a lot, and after the update a simple .mp4 was skipping forward several seconds on video, until the audio caught up. Must be some sort of memory leak, but any thoughts on what can be done? Is it possible to de-install and then reinstall the stock player without factory reset?
MX Player was my go-to before and it still works. I'd switched to the stock because I don't like the ads in the free version of MX, but danged if it isn't one of the best stock players around.
Mark
Maybe because I had the G2 to compare it against, but after KK my G2 would immediately turn on first time nearly every time. My GPad still takes 3-5 tries even after KK.
The way I solved the issue with knock on/off is I knock three times instead of two.
Can't copy files to SD card since upgrading to 4.4.2.
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For me, 4.4.2 seems a little smoother and faster. I was using Nova Launcher because the LG launcher seemed a bit less fluid. It is much better now. Nova is still smoother doing some things but not enough for me to feel I have to keep using it. I have gone back to using the stock launcher.
Other than that, not a big deal although I didn't expect it to be. It is not a huge Android update update. 4.4 is mostly just smoother.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712536
Stujoe said:
For me, 4.4.2 seems a little smoother and faster. I was using Nova Launcher because the LG launcher seemed a bit less fluid. It is much better now. Nova is still smoother doing some things but not enough for me to feel I have to keep using it. I have gone back to using the stock launcher.
Other than that, not a big deal although I didn't expect it to be. It is not a huge Android update update. 4.4 is mostly just smoother.
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I agree everything seems smoother and faster, web browsing is definitely faster, I don't notice any real difference with the screen brightness but I never really had a problem with my screen. For my use not much of a difference from 4.2.2 but overall I am happy with the improvements Kit Kat adds to the GPad.

Nexus 7 running super slow.. Think a clean 5.0 may help?

Have had my n7 since they came out (32g WiFi) and love it.. Lately she's been running real slow. (Official cm11).. If I do a full FULL wipe and drop an official 5.0.0 image on it, think that will help get some performance back? I know the internal memory type is a big limitation, any way to format it and maybe clean or speed it up?
(I've done the usual, wrote and reflash, open space, stop apps at startup, speed up tricks...)
Thanks..
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rhcreed said:
Have had my n7 since they came out (32g WiFi) and love it.. Lately she's been running real slow. (Official cm11).. If I do a full FULL wipe and drop an official 5.0.0 image on it, think that will help get some performance back? I know the internal memory type is a big limitation, any way to format it and maybe clean or speed it up?
(I've done the usual, wrote and reflash, open space, stop apps at startup, speed up tricks...)
Thanks..
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A full wipe would more than likely help right now. Although with 5.0 a few weeks away, its best to wait until then. You could flash the official 5.0 factory images once they're up, or someone's bound to make a stock rooted 5.0 ROM also.
If you can't wait you could try experimenting with the f2fs formatting, there's a how to thread and a good selection of compatible ROMs available. In haven't tried it personally but most users seem to notice significant improvements on their N7.
I would suggest to install a diagnostic app like diagnosis by darken and read a report of how apps eat your cpu/ram instead of going the process of backuping and formating.
From my experience apps which slow a device
Facebook
Viber
WhatsApp
And most of the messaging apps.
A clean install of any Android version would help. ?
I would suggest using a cleaning tool like SD Maid by Darken and formatting your Cache/Dalvik Cache.
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Don't install 5.0 it made things worse then in 4.4
mrsofa said:
Don't install 5.0 it made things worse then in 4.4
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I installed 5.0 on my N7 2012 and it is crazy fast! As soon as I installed Facebook the whole thing froze up. Systemui crashed, everything crashed. Finally managed to get FB uninsulated (took 20 minutes) and it runs smooth again. Not sure what the hell FB app did, but it was pretty crazy. I tried it again and same thing.
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Schaweet said:
I installed 5.0 on my N7 2012 and it is crazy fast! As soon as I installed Facebook the whole thing froze up. Systemui crashed, everything crashed. Finally managed to get FB uninsulated (took 20 minutes) and it runs smooth again. Not sure what the hell FB app did, but it was pretty crazy. I tried it again and same thing.
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Before you installed android 5.0 your nexus 7 2012 was very laggy and choppy?
antimo84c said:
Before you installed android 5.0 your nexus 7 2012 was very laggy and choppy?
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Yes, it was very laggy on 4.4.4.
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Schaweet said:
Yes, it was very laggy on 4.4.4.
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My n7 2012 3g is almost unusable. I hope lollipop will solve bug and lag
antimo84c said:
My n7 2012 3g is almost unusable. I hope lollipop will solve bug and lag
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My wifi model was the same way. 5.0 fixes it. Just don't install FB beta.
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Schaweet said:
I installed 5.0 on my N7 2012 and it is crazy fast! As soon as I installed Facebook the whole thing froze up. Systemui crashed, everything crashed. Finally managed to get FB uninsulated (took 20 minutes) and it runs smooth again. Not sure what the hell FB app did, but it was pretty crazy. I tried it again and same thing.
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I recommend the Facebook app below, its based on the browser version and it a hundred times lighter than the official app. Doesn't have access to the permissions (basically everything) that the official fb app has either which is better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2864561
Schaweet said:
My wifi model was the same way. 5.0 fixes it. Just don't install FB beta.
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Unsubscribed from fb beta right now because it was making problem on my htc one aswell... Fixed problems on the HTC, but the nexus...still no go. Sometimes it works...normally (my HTC is faster, but is not horribly slower) but then I looses it all and starts lagging so badly I put it down and dont use it for 2hours, and then it's okay again...
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Unsubscribed from fb beta right now because it was making problem on my htc one aswell... Fixed problems on the HTC, but the nexus...still no go. Sometimes it works...normally (my HTC is faster, but is not horribly slower) but then I looses it all and starts lagging so badly I put it down and dont use it for 2hours, and then it's okay again...
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Yeah same thing here. What's crazy is I installed Friendcaster instead of the stock FB app and the same thing happened. Makes me think it's not the app and instead something with FB server side not liking LP.
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Same problems here. I have hangups amounting to tens of seconds doing what used to be otherwise instantaneous actions when the tablet was new.
The question; is this performance degradation related to component aging or software-related? Our N7s are more or less out of 1yr warranty now and I am wondering whether there will be any traction with ASUS about a flaw which was present at purchase? Components crap out of the door outlasts a claim on fault developments in the wild.
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Same problems here. I have hangups amounting to tens of seconds doing what used to be otherwise instantaneous actions when the tablet was new.
The question; is this performance degradation related to component aging or software-related? Our N7s are more or less out of 1yr warranty now and I am wondering whether there will be any traction with ASUS about a flaw which was present at purchase? Components crap out of the door outlasts a claim on fault developments in the wild.
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2 things. A bloated system and cache will slow things down. And for me... My N7 seems slower every time I upgrade my phone. Lol
Wipe it clean and start again with fresh stock install. ?
Hardware doesn't slow down. It works, or doesn't work... Or can work intermittently if it's damaged. But not just slower.
Darth said:
2 things. A bloated system and cache will slow things down. And for me... My N7 seems slower every time I upgrade my phone. Lol
Wipe it clean and start again with fresh stock install. ?
Hardware doesn't slow down. It works, or doesn't work... Or can work intermittently if it's damaged. But not just slower.
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Everyone in this thread is saying that 5.0 and 4.4.4 fresh install are slow for them, why is everyone saying do a fresh stock install?
I have a 2 day stock install and this works slower then my friends samsung ace.
p.s. i uninstalled fb, and messenger... still slow.
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Everyone in this thread is saying that 5.0 and 4.4.4 fresh install are slow for them, why is everyone saying do a fresh stock install?
I have a 2 day stock install and this works slower then my friends samsung ace.
p.s. i uninstalled fb, and messenger... still slow.
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Then go to the last version that was fast? Or a good custom rom?
My point was and is... Hardware doesn't slow down. It may break or become erratic.. But not slower.
So the issue is on the software side. ?
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I never liked kit Kat either on my N7...its still running stock, rooted 4.2.2. Smooth and snappy. ?
How does google even thing about putting out something that's so slow?
Are they desperately wanting us to switch to the nexus 9?
This is my last tablet I ever bought.
So anyone has 5.0.2 allready?
I have it. I see no difference. The tab freezes for about a minute sometimes when using chrome. Dolphin is even worse. So most of the time i get these freeze ups and the whole tablet becomes unresponsive.
Anyone else?

[MotoMaxx] Lollipop Soak Test Impressions

Please dont ask where to get it or if you are from soak or not we have plenty of threads asking that, just opinions please.
Hi guys, i wanted to know how do you feel this pre-release of lollipop, so far i just installed it and had no problem with it. seems smooth not a single error.
some guys says the drain battery issue was fixed, but i have to see for myself, so how is your experience so far?
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Please dont ask where to get it or if you are from soak or not we have plenty of threads asking that, just opinions please.
Hi guys, i wanted to know how do you feel this pre-release of lollipop, so far i just installed it and had no problem with it. seems smooth not a single error.
some guys says the drain battery issue was fixed, but i have to see for myself, so how is your experience so far?
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Working great so far for me. Had a little bit of lag that went away as soon as I did a factory days reset. Can't comment on standby battery life since I have been pounding this thing all day. But → now I am at 41% with 4 hours and 23 minutes of screen time.
I do have an issue with Nokia's Here navigation app, but it may be that it is not lollipop compatible. Have not dug around to see if that is the case.
All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.
Any camera improvements?
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Working great so far for me. Had a little bit of lag that went away as soon as I did a factory days reset. Can't comment on standby battery life since I have been pounding this thing all day. But → now I am at 41% with 4 hours and 23 minutes of screen time.
I do have an issue with Nokia's Here navigation app, but it may be that it is not lollipop compatible. Have not dug around to see if that is the case.
All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.
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specific app problems should be addressed by their respective creator, its the app fault to not be ready for lollipop
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Any camera improvements?
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yes i've seen focus improvements
also the low speaker volume seems fixed on ringtone speaker as well in-call speaker.
I get like 2 or 3 freezes a day, phone becomes totally unresponsive for 10 seconds or so.
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All devices than get lollipop is better have factory reset for good perfomance
Am i having one of them, whatchamacallit, placebo effect, or has the bluetooth streaming quality improved.?
I think my music sounds better.
Any one else?
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Bluetooth music streaming seems to drop or pause for a second every few minutes
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Turning bluetooth off and then back on seems to have solved the issue so far.
it take it 4% in one night in stanby
battery seems the same to me.
have some lags and some freezing too for 30 seconds -1 minute
hope Moto will solve this problems
Did you guys clean installed? Because I did, I cleared user data and cache
For those with the freezing/stuttering/lag issues, did you perform a factory data reset prior to installing the OTA?
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All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.
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Or Lolllipop version of Gravity Box that will soon hit, now that Xposed has been recoded for ART/Lollipop. Gravity Box dev says it's coming soon.
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Did you guys clean installed? Because I did, I cleared user data and cache
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I did a factory data reset after installing. That took care mostly of the lag, but i keep having bluetooth issues.
Sometimes streaming music pauses on my Bluetooth music speaker, and it drops the connection on my stereo
headset. Things that do not happen with my older phones.
In all fairness, it could be because of the hybrid Brazil/Puerto Rico thing, but honestly, I don't think so as I was already having
Bluetooth issues before. Plus, everything else is working great. Signal is rock solid and I get LTE with no problems at all.
May have a defective phone.
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Or Lolllipop version of Gravity Box that will soon hit, now that Xposed has been recoded for ART/Lollipop. Gravity Box dev says it's coming soon.
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Yes. I actually did not miss custom roms on kitkat with gravity box.
I hope they iron out the kinks soon!
Which version did they push? 5.0,.01, or .02?
.02
good so far
I haven't found any bug. I see volumen calls, screen brigthness, battery life improvement.
Everything runs smooth. Now i see the diference between my droid maxx and this.
47hrs.
some bugs i've noticed so far:
Sometimes when connected on a wifi network, disconnects and reconnects again, this didnt happen on kitkat, happens randomly
When listening to google play music and then receive a notification the music doesn't resume again, you have to click pause and play to resume to playing the song.
My impressions are great!! I did a full convert to BRZ firmware from PR Moto Maxx flashed every file, full wiped in fastboot, then did the OTA zip. So far it has been amazing, specially smoothness and battery life!!
Of course, im rooted and running Greenify, plus froze unnecessary stuff. (I dont use none of the moto stuff)
If you upgraded and having performance issue with stuttering and lags, I highly recommend performing a factory reset. I did mine through recovery and wiped Data & Cache.
That made a massive difference.
I have an wifi issue, it's not turning on at all. On 4.4 it's working fine, even on BR firmware (my phone is PR). Is Anybody met this?
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My impressions are great!! I did a full convert to BRZ firmware from PR Moto Maxx flashed every file, full wiped in fastboot, then did the OTA zip. So far it has been amazing, specially smoothness and battery life!!
Of course, im rooted and running Greenify, plus froze unnecessary stuff. (I dont use none of the moto stuff)
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When you say "flashed every file" do you mean just the system image files in the OP of the lollipop install thread or do you literally mean every file (I.e. bootloader, radio, etc)? I've been wanting to go this route of converting my PR Maxx to Brazilian retail 100% as well by flashing all the files.
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Lineage OS 14.1 Slow as Hell

Every app I open on this phone runs like crap and can't do anything without crashes. The battery life is the worst I've ever seen. Switching back to stock.
Ok
ninjadan9 said:
Every app I open on this phone runs like crap and can't do anything without crashes. The battery life is the worst I've ever seen. Switching back to stock.
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I am having the same problem, I have never had a rom so slow. Simple actions like moving the Facebook messenger bubble while browsing a forum app or sending a text message can put the phone into full lockdown mode. I believe the kernel is not ramping up properly or something. Horrible performance and bad battery life. not sure what is going on.
Even better than switching to stock, switching to the Galaxy S7 Edge. I'm betting Motorola won't release Nougat because of how slow it runs on the Moto X.
Either there is something wrong with your guys' phones or didn't properly flash the ROM.
My experience with LineageOS has been phenomenal.
ninjadan9 said:
Even better than switching to stock, switching to the Galaxy S7 Edge. I'm betting Motorola won't release Nougat because of how slow it runs on the Moto X.
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I have used several Nougat roms on my Pure and yet to have a slow s hell issue. Now an issue with the Camera, that is another story.
Jimi Mack said:
I have used several Nougat roms on my Pure and yet to have a slow s hell issue. Now an issue with the Camera, that is another story.
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Camera pretty usable on Lineage. Camera app opens instantly, takes maybe 3 seconds to switch from the front camera to the rear.
Are you using the night mode feature that changes the colour temperature, because I have LOS 14 on my Nexus 7, and it's super slow, and someone else noticed that below 6500K, it lagged, and above, it was fine.
If you are going to switch, and haven't yet: even better than Samsung - Nexus or pixel
Hemidrosis said:
Either there is something wrong with your guys' phones or didn't properly flash the ROM.
My experience with LineageOS has been phenomenal.
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same here. The only issue is the camera app and hat is slow to start.
Something is deff. wrong with their flash.
kongha said:
same here. The only issue is the camera app and hat is slow to start.
Something is deff. wrong with their flash.
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Yeah, same here, too. Just switched to LOS14.1 and I love it. Only issue seems to be the very slow-to-start camera. I was looking for a solution and came across this thread. At least it's not just me. Lol...

New Moto camera freezing up

I have notice the camera lag and freeze after taking so many pictures continuously. Last time it happened I was casting YouTube and then I went to take a picture and it was lagging. I switched the storage to internal memory, thinking it was the SD card, but it still lagged.
I also notice the phone freeze up when the battery gets to 15% or less. I am not sure if the issues are with the phone or because I am rooted, have Xposed install with mods, substratum theme, and Magisk.
Danny1976 said:
I have notice the camera lag and freeze after taking so many pictures continuously. Last time it happened I was casting YouTube and then I went to take a picture and it was lagging. I switched the storage to internal memory, thinking it was the SD card, but it still lagged.
I also notice the phone freeze up when the battery gets to 15% or less. I am not sure if the issues are with the phone or because I am rooted, have Xposed install with mods, substratum theme, and Magisk.
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Are u on stock ???
Love Dhir said:
Are u on stock ???
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Yes
This is happening to me also completely stock 7.0. there is a pronounced lag when using camera app. Once it's up and running seems to be ok but firing up taking forever.
I think I may be upgrading soon to the Nokia 6.1. I think the Moto G4 Is coming to the end of it's life. Nokia is providing updates quickly and are making some nice phones.
Danny1976 said:
I think I may be upgrading soon to the Nokia 6.1. I think the Moto G4 Is coming to the end of it's life. Nokia is providing updates quickly and are making some nice phones.
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I'm hoping my carrier Republic wireless offers Nokia, though Moto G6 looks pretty nice also.
I have the same problem with the camera, it also happens when recording to 1080p the image is delayed with respect to the audio, this problem started from the update of the security patch in December. I am still in stock with elemental, magisk & Xposed
I was using an app to scan barcodes and the phone rebooted everytime. Sometimes it would crash after a couple pictures. Also when using the camera by itself to take pictures it takes a long time, as if it froze. This new camera update seems to be unstable and I am surprised, no many complaints from more people.
The stock camera is the best option and that's one main reason I am in stock. But now that this is happening, I may install an Nougat custom ROM. I would install an Oreo ROM, but they still have too many issues.
I think it is happening after april security patch update. corret me please if i'm wrong.
i_Amlesh said:
I think it is happening after april security patch update. corret me please if i'm wrong.
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I was on the February security update, when I started having issues. I think it had to do with the new camera update.
I'm still having major issues with my camera apps. I have stock 7.0 rooted/unlocked and the device will get super hot. I've really only noticed this when the phone was in hot weather, or otherwise already warm from use. The camera will pause for seconds and is generally unusable. This happens with stock and Open Camera. Not sure what's causing this, is there any solution? Downgrade camera? It's not the kernel is it?
ldeveraux said:
I'm still having major issues with my camera apps. I have stock 7.0 rooted/unlocked and the device will get super hot. I've really only noticed this when the phone was in hot weather, or otherwise already warm from use. The camera will pause for seconds and is generally unusable. This happens with stock and Open Camera. Not sure what's causing this, is there any solution? Downgrade camera? It's not the kernel is it?
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You could try to underclock the CPU/GPU to avoid some heat, but I think you can't really avoid the heat of the SD617 chipset.
thorin0815 said:
You could try to underclock the CPU/GPU to avoid some heat, but I think you can't really avoid the heat of the SD617 chipset.
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What's causing it though? Is it the root, xposed, the kernel? This is why I wanted to keep on the stock ROM, so things like this wouldn't happen. The camera is virtually unusable in this state, so if it's not caused by my doing, then this is a major fault...
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What's causing it though? Is it the root, xposed, the kernel? This is why I wanted to keep on the stock ROM, so things like this wouldn't happen. The camera is virtually unusable in this state, so if it's not caused by my doing, then this is a major fault...
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It's the CPU itself and only one major fault of many of this device.

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