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Is it possible to go back to lollipop?

I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?

At worst you will softbrick it... I doubt it would hardbrick, but most of the threads where people have tried to downgrade have not gone well but they eventually get it working. Moto's don't like to be downgraded, the big problem is the partition table changes from Lollipop to Marshmallow and it won't go back. Although I don't know about this device specifically, but several older Moto's would brick if you downgraded then took an OTA later due to the mismatch of bootload and gpt partition table versions.
I would try to find solutions to your problems with MM rather than downgrade... I don't have any issues with any of the problems you are stating with echo, camera launch (mine is ready to take pictures in less than 2 seconds from either lock screen or icon), and Facebook works fine. Guess I am a little puzzled, but then again I am on 6.0.0 on the Pure.

akeflo said:
I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?
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It is possible if you have a TWRP backup of lollipop. I have done it before and it does work.

!Iamdeath! said:
It is possible if you have a TWRP backup of lollipop. I have done it before and it does work.
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It's possible even without a backup too.

Spasticdroid said:
It's possible even without a backup too.
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It is possible, but as mentioned by @acejavelin, it could cause issues later. The better option is to try and work out the current issues. Since the OP obviously has TWRP installed, my recommendation for stock ROM is to possibly look at apps that may be the culprits. Other options can include custom kernels.

Thank you so much everyone! But then, how do i do it? Is there anyone who has done it before and could help me? I don't have a lollipop backup on my TWRP btw..

acejavelin said:
At worst you will softbrick it... I doubt it would hardbrick, but most of the threads where people have tried to downgrade have not gone well but they eventually get it working. Moto's don't like to be downgraded, the big problem is the partition table changes from Lollipop to Marshmallow and it won't go back. Although I don't know about this device specifically, but several older Moto's would brick if you downgraded then took an OTA later due to the mismatch of bootload and gpt partition table versions.
I would try to find solutions to your problems with MM rather than downgrade... I don't have any issues with any of the problems you are stating with echo, camera launch (mine is ready to take pictures in less than 2 seconds from either lock screen or icon), and Facebook works fine. Guess I am a little puzzled, but then again I am on 6.0.0 on the Pure.
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On stock ROM everything works but lags, but for example on cm13 videos on facebook won't playback, switching to front facing camera takes maybe 10 seconds and the echo is there when speaking on the phone. What ROM are you using?

akeflo said:
On stock ROM everything works but lags, but for example on cm13 videos on facebook won't playback, switching to front facing camera takes maybe 10 seconds and the echo is there when speaking on the phone. What ROM are you using?
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Stock, and I have no "lag" to speak of, but my point of references lately are the Moto G3, Nexus 4, and Lumia 640 LTE so by these standard the Pure is a Ferrari by comparison.
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I'm using stock with no lag. I get the occasional stutter every now and then but that has been the case with every Android I have owned. Have you gone to developer options and changed the Windows animation scale and Transition animation scale to 0.5? This might help.

acejavelin said:
Stock, and I have no "lag" to speak of, but my point of references lately are the Moto G3, Nexus 4, and Lumia 640 LTE so by these standard the Pure is a Ferrari by comparison.
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Haha i see! Well my comparison is with a Nexus 5x and an LG G2 and i hardly can't tell a difference between my moto and the LG G2 with a cyanogen based ROM. The Nexus is clearly the smoothest of all three.

aybarrap1 said:
I'm using stock with no lag. I get the occasional stutter every now and then but that has been the case with every Android I have owned. Have you gone to developer options and changed the Windows animation scale and Transition animation scale to 0.5? This might help.
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Yes every android has some lag now and then but my Nexus 5X ran much smoother than the Moto X. It lags when i open the app drawer for instance which is the most simple task ever. It really pisses me off. I will try changing animation speed, thank you.

akeflo said:
I'm sick of my Moto X Style not running smoothly on stock android 6.0.1. Some custom roms fixed that but had other problems like calling echoes, slow camera launching, not being able to playback videos on facebook etc... Will i brick my phone if i try to roll back, or can i actually do it?
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I flashed Android Lollipop many times but wifi doesn't work so I am not able to log in into Google account so I flash back marshmallow. I especially face serious lag when scrolling through YouTube in marshmallow.

[email protected] said:
I flashed Android Lollipop many times but wifi doesn't work so I am not able to log in into Google account so I flash back marshmallow. I especially face serious lag when scrolling through YouTube in marshmallow.
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Are you clean flashing? I've flashed several different roms and none of them have lagged for me the slightest bit.
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Lineage OS 14.1 Slow as Hell

Every app I open on this phone runs like crap and can't do anything without crashes. The battery life is the worst I've ever seen. Switching back to stock.

Ok

ninjadan9 said:
Every app I open on this phone runs like crap and can't do anything without crashes. The battery life is the worst I've ever seen. Switching back to stock.
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I am having the same problem, I have never had a rom so slow. Simple actions like moving the Facebook messenger bubble while browsing a forum app or sending a text message can put the phone into full lockdown mode. I believe the kernel is not ramping up properly or something. Horrible performance and bad battery life. not sure what is going on.

Even better than switching to stock, switching to the Galaxy S7 Edge. I'm betting Motorola won't release Nougat because of how slow it runs on the Moto X.

Either there is something wrong with your guys' phones or didn't properly flash the ROM.
My experience with LineageOS has been phenomenal.

ninjadan9 said:
Even better than switching to stock, switching to the Galaxy S7 Edge. I'm betting Motorola won't release Nougat because of how slow it runs on the Moto X.
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I have used several Nougat roms on my Pure and yet to have a slow s hell issue. Now an issue with the Camera, that is another story.

Jimi Mack said:
I have used several Nougat roms on my Pure and yet to have a slow s hell issue. Now an issue with the Camera, that is another story.
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Camera pretty usable on Lineage. Camera app opens instantly, takes maybe 3 seconds to switch from the front camera to the rear.

Are you using the night mode feature that changes the colour temperature, because I have LOS 14 on my Nexus 7, and it's super slow, and someone else noticed that below 6500K, it lagged, and above, it was fine.
If you are going to switch, and haven't yet: even better than Samsung - Nexus or pixel

Hemidrosis said:
Either there is something wrong with your guys' phones or didn't properly flash the ROM.
My experience with LineageOS has been phenomenal.
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same here. The only issue is the camera app and hat is slow to start.
Something is deff. wrong with their flash.

kongha said:
same here. The only issue is the camera app and hat is slow to start.
Something is deff. wrong with their flash.
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Yeah, same here, too. Just switched to LOS14.1 and I love it. Only issue seems to be the very slow-to-start camera. I was looking for a solution and came across this thread. At least it's not just me. Lol...

IS it worth Rooting ?

I just bought a Sprint V20 and so far I have been looking through the roms and non are without bugs or problems. Which rom would you guys use and is it really that much better to root the phone over stock ?

Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.

I've had mine since Black Friday and still haven't rooted. I'm enjoying the phone despite the lack of data tethering. Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary? I'd enjoy the phone that much more if that were possible.

For me it's worth it just for adaway.
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Yushawan said:
Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary?
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There is no way. At least for Tmobile's variant. However, it only take a second to either zoom out or just click the icon and it will both take you to widescreen. I find zooming out easier for me. I dont know why

I personally only root to control programs that we should be able to control anyway (aka facebook), I get annoyed at how programs continually relaunch themselves without my knowledge.
That being said at this time I haven't rooted mainly because I've only had the phone for a month and I want to make sure that the phone works properly for at least 6 months.
Right now I am running greenify to attempt to control apps that think my personal phone is their playground to do whatever they want.
If I was younger and not dependent on my phone for a lot of things (business and organization) I would try other builds people have made but since I need reliability above all I personally tend to stick to stock builds.
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midmadn said:
Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.
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I may try this soon. I just hope DevDigitals Sprint roms are stable. I use Black Player as my music player for the gym and the camera is awesome for my Cruise I'm taking in April.

It still looks like people are having issues with DevDigitals rom. The data and texting issues. Are all these issues solved in V6.5 ? I use my phone for work and cant take the chance of it not answering a call or a text. Is the new V6.5 working as a daily driver for Sprint users ?

no issues at all on 6.5 for most.....
people sometimes don't read/search anymore

I did post once that I was having data issues but it was no fault of DevDigitl's great rom.
It was my wifi wasn't shutting off and I had previously signed into xfinity wifi. Every time I got anywhere near an xfinity wireless connection, (which is every other house in Boston) it would try to connect.
I'm still learning LG. Been on Samsung for a long time.
I firmly believe the rare connection issues are user error. Once the rom is installed you just need to click update profile and then update prl once.

It's worth rooting
Settings/Developer Options/Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" this should make this beast smoother/snappier" If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store! LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts, well optimised with Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung.

my LG-V20 was also laggy and draining battery quickly. i finally rooted my phone and it is 100% better i am currently using Maximum OvrDriVE Rom. its extremely nice. so if anyone else has the lag/battery drain quicker i suggest rooting your phone should fix. its been about 2 weeks and still doing great also so.

If you want a stable amazing ROM the NotSoStock ROM is the only option....
Don't hesitate just do it. You won't regret it.

Nexus 6P horrible lag issue when rooted

So I picked up a 6P again after I got rid of my original a couple years ago. It arrived yesterday and I got it all setup, but then it started having issues that night. So I did a factory reset. I should mention that the very first thing I did when I got it was root it and install elementalx. Didn't bother with a ROM since Pure Nexus hasn't been supported for awhile (which is what I installed on my old 6P) and I was already running Oreo.
Today was going great until about an hour ago. I unplugged it from charging and the same symptoms as last night happened. When this happens I have to hold the power button until the device reboots.
What happens is that severe lag happens. The screen turns on after a few seconds when I use the fingerprint scanner or power button, but it's very slow and glitchy. Like it'll show half the notification bar and below that there will be a 2 inch long by 1 inch long rectangle in the upper left corner that shows the bottom of my wallpaper. The rest of the screen will show my wallpaper but it'll be glitched, where like the bottom is actually a section of the top. And trying to pull down the notification shade is just impossible. It glitches big time but after lagging of course. I really wish I had pictures to better explain. If it happens again I'll be sure to take some.
From what I've said though, does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
I have a few days where I can still return the device, but I really would like to keep it since it's in mint condition. Battery life is great still and there doesn't seem to be any performance issues when it's working properly. I really don't want to keep doing resets, which if I'd have to then I don't see any point in keeping it since it basically won't be usable.
Edit: 9:37pm
Just had it happen again so I took some pictures. It got to the point the screen wouldn't come on at all, so I had to hold the power button again to reboot. But I found out it still registers the fingerprint to unlock (I hear the sound) and hitting the power button twice still launches the camera (the phone vibrates). When this first started happening this time, after waiting for a little bit with the screen on, I got the popup that the System UI wasn't responding.

Just wanted to update that I flashed the stock ota from Google's site for the October 2018 update. Since doing so the phone has been working fine *knocks on wood*. So right now I'm thinking there was an issue with rooting, elementalx, or magisk. I'll make a backup and do those things one at a time and see when/if my issues return.

Just another update for those who stumble across this topic from Google or whatever.
Things were working great for a few days so I decided to go ahead and root but not install elementalx or anything. Did so last night and upon waking up this morning the phone was having the lag issue again. So it seems rooting is causing my problem. I used magisk, so I'm going to try SuperSU and see if that causes my problem as well.

Switching from magisk to SuperSU did not solve my problem. The phone started freezing up and lagging bad again, requiring me to hold the power button and reboot. So I guess I'll just unroot again and leave it that way.
Unless someone seeing this has any other ideas.

I dont recommend oreo. Im having a lot of issues like the worst of all not being able to install TWRP, lag, screen stutters and excessive battery usage

I love Oreo. Have zero problems with it, my problems are this specific phone. Don't root it and it works flawlessly. Oreo runs better for me than any previous version of Android ever, especially on older lower spec devices. There is zero reason something as powerful as the 6P can't handle it.
TWRP installed without issue, never had an issue with it and Oreo shouldn't affect it anyways. I've got the phone running kind of stock. I installed TWRP and ElementalX and left it at that. Using other apps and adb commands I was able to install a bunch of "Pixel only" stuff and get what I wanted without root. So I'm happy.
The thing's just a side project next to my Note 9 anyways. So long as the hardware issues stay at bay that render the 6P worthless, I'll stay happy.
Sounds like to me you need to do a full re-flash from the stock files on Google's Nexus site and start fresh. Or yours is starting to show signs of the hardware defects.
Either way, this topic is moot to me now I guess. Mainly just left it here in case others find it through Google searches. Good luck!

Whenever I do a major android version upgrade I wipe internal storage. I found that if I didn't do this would get all kinds of little issues. Internal storage carries over files from one android version to the next.

My 6P is doing very similar as yours is. Extreme lagging, basically totally freezing and sometimes half the screen is visible just like on your pictures. I haven't find a solution to it, but you are saying not rooting it fixed it for you? Seems far-fetched but I guess I have no other option. I have been using Lineage OS.

Yeah, removing root instantly fixed the issues for me. I made sure to clear cache and everything like that from recovery too. I'm still unlocked and using TWRP with Elementalx, setup however I like. I just can't root. Soon as I do I can actually feel a little slowdown in using the phone, and then after a day or so the horrible lag with freezing and stuff starts.
Not sure about using a custom ROM since like I said I didn't try it on this phone. My original 6P didn't have any of these issues and I could root, ROM, and modify my heart out.
So to recap, currently and since my last actual update here basically, I've been unlocked, using elementalx and TWRP, but running stock October 2018 Oreo ROM and all that. I used adb commands to get Greenify setup as close to root settings as possible, and to install some Pixel stuff to get night light and whatnot. Got immersive mode by using systemuituner app. And a couple other things to get it as close to how my original 6P was on Pure Nexus.
Hope this helps. I'll be glad to provide anything else I can.

Oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. Seems.like google is slowing it down. Not only on the operating sysyem but also on its latest apps. The latest version of maps is too laggy but the one that comes with nougat is smooth. Thats why i went back to nougat is lile heaven and hell. Shame on goole being thay oreo runs very good on the 5x but not the 6p

survivor_evil said:
Oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. Seems.like google is slowing it down. Not only on the operating sysyem but also on its latest apps. The latest version of maps is too laggy but the one that comes with nougat is smooth. Thats why i went back to nougat is lile heaven and hell. Shame on goole being thay oreo runs very good on the 5x but not the 6p
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Take your conspiracy theories elsewhere. Oreo runs smooth as butter on perfectly (or even in my case, not perfectly since it won't root) fine 6P's. Everything works as it should and I have zero issues and zero lag. All you're doing is cluttering up my topic on something that has absolutely nothing to do with Oreo. This topic is about the issues I'm having after rooting, nothing else. If you don't like Oreo, fine. If you think a device that's several years old at this point isn't running the newest OS as smooth as it ran older ones, that's fine too. Especially since Google has at this point completely disowned the Nexus nameplate. Just don't come into someone else's topic and run your mouth. I told you before I had no issues with Oreo and that it sounds like your device is showing odd behavior, if you didn't like that... well that's fine too. Why subscribe to this topic and keep coming back if it has nothing to do with you. Go away or contribute helpful info to the issue at hand here; rooting complications not Oreo.
Although at this point I'm not having any issues. My 6P has been running buttery smooth since I removed root on what, October 18th... that's about two weeks ago. And this includes installing and tweaking stuff on it that it's supposedly too obsolete to run and only Pixel devices can handle. It goes toe to toe with my Note 9 in daily activities, all while running Oreo.

RockwellB1 said:
Take your conspiracy theories elsewhere. Oreo runs smooth as butter on perfectly (or even in my case, not perfectly since it won't root) fine 6P's. Everything works as it should and I have zero issues and zero lag. All you're doing is cluttering up my topic on something that has absolutely nothing to do with Oreo. This topic is about the issues I'm having after rooting, nothing else. If you don't like Oreo, fine. If you think a device that's several years old at this point isn't running the newest OS as smooth as it ran older ones, that's fine too. Especially since Google has at this point completely disowned the Nexus nameplate. Just don't come into someone else's topic and run your mouth. I told you before I had no issues with Oreo and that it sounds like your device is showing odd behavior, if you didn't like that... well that's fine too. Why subscribe to this topic and keep coming back if it has nothing to do with you. Go away or contribute helpful info to the issue at hand here; rooting complications not Oreo.
Although at this point I'm not having any issues. My 6P has been running buttery smooth since I removed root on what, October 18th... that's about two weeks ago. And this includes installing and tweaking stuff on it that it's supposedly too obsolete to run and only Pixel devices can handle. It goes toe to toe with my Note 9 in daily activities, all while running Oreo.
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It wasnt for you but in general, there are more users complaining about it. I tested oreo without rooting and it lags as hell. You can even check comparison videos too... this topic is about having lag issues so I gave you an answer, go back to nougat.

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It wasnt for you but in general, there are more users complaining about it. I tested oreo without rooting and it lags as hell. You can even check comparison videos too... this topic is about having lag issues so I gave you an answer, go back to nougat.
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I told you the first time you mentioned that "solution" , Nougat isn't an option for me and shouldn't be because I'm pretty sure I made it clear Oreo wasn't the problem. I even made it clear I basically solved my issue before your first foray into this thread.
I made it clear again in my last post.
I really don't care if there are comparison videos, I have absolutely zero lag if I'm unrooted. That is what this topic is about, lag caused by root. Those who actually spend the time to read more than the topic title can understand that. I've been working with electronics for a long long time, I know how to diagnose everything and I think I made that pretty clear by providing updates as I did things. If not for the fact the thing is all setup and running great, I'd wager I could go back to Nougat and still have root lag issues. The 6P and the 5X for that matter, are ticking time bombs. They both have hardware defects that basically turn them into fancy paperweights. Those defects could be causing my issues, your issues, and edda's issues. No real way to tell that until the bootloops or early shutdowns start. I'm of course hoping this late in the game that maybe those of us with still functioning units don't have those issues, but my gut tells me it's always a "time will tell" issue.

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I told you the first time you mentioned that "solution" , Nougat isn't an option for me and shouldn't be because I'm pretty sure I made it clear Oreo wasn't the problem. I even made it clear I basically solved my issue before your first foray into this thread.
I made it clear again in my last post.
I really don't care if there are comparison videos, I have absolutely zero lag if I'm unrooted. That is what this topic is about, lag caused by root. Those who actually spend the time to read more than the topic title can understand that. I've been working with electronics for a long long time, I know how to diagnose everything and I think I made that pretty clear by providing updates as I did things. If not for the fact the thing is all setup and running great, I'd wager I could go back to Nougat and still have root lag issues. The 6P and the 5X for that matter, are ticking time bombs. They both have hardware defects that basically turn them into fancy paperweights. Those defects could be causing my issues, your issues, and edda's issues. No real way to tell that until the bootloops or early shutdowns start. I'm of course hoping this late in the game that maybe those of us with still functioning units don't have those issues, but my gut tells me it's always a "time will tell" issue.
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If that was a hardware issue Id be having it with other versions of android but no, only oreo. And everything points out that oreo is the issue. Not only me but all the users posting videos and on forums

survivor_evil said:
Oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. Seems.like google is slowing it down. Not only on the operating sysyem but also on its latest apps. The latest version of maps is too laggy but the one that comes with nougat is smooth. Thats why i went back to nougat is lile heaven and hell. Shame on goole being thay oreo runs very good on the 5x but not the 6p
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I agree with you on that. I have had much better luck running Pure Nexus over any other rom.
Chris

RockwellB1 said:
Yeah, removing root instantly fixed the issues for me. I made sure to clear cache and everything like that from recovery too. I'm still unlocked and using TWRP with Elementalx, setup however I like. I just can't root. Soon as I do I can actually feel a little slowdown in using the phone, and then after a day or so the horrible lag with freezing and stuff starts.
Not sure about using a custom ROM since like I said I didn't try it on this phone. My original 6P didn't have any of these issues and I could root, ROM, and modify my heart out.
So to recap, currently and since my last actual update here basically, I've been unlocked, using elementalx and TWRP, but running stock October 2018 Oreo ROM and all that. I used adb commands to get Greenify setup as close to root settings as possible, and to install some Pixel stuff to get night light and whatnot. Got immersive mode by using systemuituner app. And a couple other things to get it as close to how my original 6P was on Pure Nexus.
Hope this helps. I'll be glad to provide anything else I can.
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I had problems similar to this and found out it was the immersive mode causing it, activating it with any app caused problems. If you download terminal emulator and use some commands that can be found elsewhere in the Nexus 6p part of the forum it works fine. Hope this helps. Currently on Resurrection remix with magisk installed. Running smooth as butter. Just waiting for pie to be more stable now

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I had problems similar to this and found out it was the immersive mode causing it, activating it with any app caused problems. If you download terminal emulator and use some commands that can be found elsewhere in the Nexus 6p part of the forum it works fine. Hope this helps. Currently on Resurrection remix with magisk installed. Running smooth as butter. Just waiting for pie to be more stable now
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Thanks but I wasn't even messing with immersive mode at the time. Or are you saying just having it present because I made uituner visible in settings that it might have been causing it?
My issue very much seems to be straight up linked to rooting. If I used magisk or SuperSU (really the only two I'm willing to trust) I'd notice the phone felt sluggish soon as it would reboot after rooting with them. It wasn't a huge slowdown though so I thought nothing of it, until the horrible lag/freezing issues started usually within the day. Remove root, and everything went back to normal.
I've since been using immersive mode without any issue, but of course I gave up on root.
And yeah, I hear ya on Pie. Soon as it becomes stable enough I'll be testing it out. I had 8.1 running on my Note 4, just sold it about a month ago, and it was running great. Only minor issues that were still being worked on. Being a Nexus though I have high hopes this'll be a bit easier to port to.

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I agree with you on that. I have had much better luck running Pure Nexus over any other rom.
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Im talking about pure oreo on the nexus 6p. Ive installed it many times thinking coukd be a bad installation but its just that oreo is crap on the nexus 6p. I went back to nougat and its working like a charm again.

Terrible performance after Galaxy S8 SM-G950U One UI/Pie update

Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.

Factory reset or full wipe after updating to a new firmware. Also, do not restore Google apps, just start from a scratch.

I also have serious lag, it feels like a budget phone. I've had this phone since it launched, and installed every update without precaution. This is the first time experiencing these issues.
Frame rate is terrible, especially while scrolling. Delays in pressing buttons or launching apps have grown from milliseconds to sometimes two or three seconds. No other problems(aside from poor design choices). It feels like aggressive power throttling, not memory issues.
As soon as I saw that so much manual power management has been replaced by a "learning" system, I'm skeptical that the usual fixes will do anything for my problems, especially considering there is no other malfunction. Anyone else?
G950U

bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Samsung Galaxy s8 SM-G950W. Yes. Ever since the update, my Samsung is losing files., running slow and unable to use previously used apps. Substranum, fonts etc.

It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.

Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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Well, that's what I was waiting to hear. If ppl aren't universally having the issue, then a factory reset may cure the problem. I'll give it a try soon.

Yes i just got bad performance after installing pie (custom rom, so i always factory reset or it wont work) but yeah after 14 days my phone start to slowing down like old smartphone and the apps is not starting correctly (e.g i must start magisk manually or the root wont work (the app cant detect if phone is rooted even when magisk hide is off)).
I try the LightROM and ALEXIS and both have this problem (performance way worse on lightrom). I know this isnt their fault but the samsung fault (maybe because its early relase? Or...).
Note : performance is normal in the first day, but after 14-30 days the phone start to acting weirdly (the apps behave weirdly) dunno why.
Btw i use SM-G950FD

After restarting about 5 times, then manually clearing cache partition, I was able to get smooth performance. Unfortunately, I still have to restart at least once a day to prevent lagging animation. This is with light usage: streaming, facebook, email.
I turned on "reduce animations" in advanced features, and set the animation scales to 1.5 with dev options. This seems to help prolong smooth operation, but I still have to restart daily. Next step is factory reset, I have a lot to backup...

fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag

Mine has an issue of having the fingerprint not working after it was changed. I have to do one of the following:
1. Restart and boot via safe mode then if it works, reboot again
2. Restore Settings from synced backup
3. Reset Settings
So much of a hassle.... I am thinking of rooting this soon.

Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??

bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Had the same problem so flashed official firmware (for my carrier, downloaded from sammobile) with Odin. This part can be done without of rooting your phone.
Do this first (back up your data before as clear flash will delete everything), and test after if it works well. If not, root it (https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...w-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535) and install adaway from xda labs.
If you root the phone or install TWRP, e-fuse will break and you cannot go back after that. Warranty will be void and the Samsung fit app won't work anymore.
Fortunately, there are workarounds on a rooted phone (https://tinyurl.com/yy37gnwv) so that is not a big deal, at least for me.
Not sure when you root it if wave pay services will work so do some research first.

an-_-dro said:
fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag
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Has your lag subsided after time? Mine appears after a night's sleep. It never fails: Restart in the morning, smooth scrolling all day. Next morning, laggy, stuttering scrolling until I restart again. I've uninstalled all unused apps and left power mode on high performance. No change. As soon as I wake up, animation lags like a budget phone. Everything else is reliable, just not the animation.
Of course, I don't actually know what's going on, but I'm willing to bet that this new power management system that we can't control is to blame. If I have to go through all the odin, etc steps, I may just roll back to oreo. Pie is prettier, but I want my smooth operation back.

comnut said:
My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??
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S10e gets similar reception to my A8(2018). When I got the A8 I had a S8 before that, and i don't remember there being any difference in signal. I live in poor signal area, so if a phone had bad signal, I'd probably remember because I owuldn't have any signal at all.

This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.

J450N79 said:
This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.
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Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.

DrivenKeys said:
Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.
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I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
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totally not satisfied with the Pie update, I wish I did not upgrade my fast S8.....
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350Rocket said:
I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
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Wow! It's sad to hear an 8gb phone would still have the same issue. I wonder if this has to do with power management. Perhaps it's squeezing a tiny percentage of battery life out of saving some frames. It drives me crazy and gives me a headache. I wish they'd provide a simple switch for whatever this is.
This os feels like they ventured into breaking what works in an endless quest to fix what wasn't broken. Perhaps some team of programmers is celebrating minute improvements, but it's coming at the expense of the consumer, who never signed up to be the guinea pig. Each update seems to remove or break basic reliability and functionality that we paid for. I feel like I paid a premium price to become a software tester.

So reboots don't seem to fix the lag I'm experiencing when opening and closing certain apps. This phone was plenty fast before for me. Other issues are present now too. Auto adaptive display brightness doesn't work as well. I also really think it's sheet that you can't disable GPS and have the battery saving mode anymore! WTF Samsung.