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I didn't see a discussion yet so figured I'd start one. What files have you safely frozen or removed with root?
km8j said:
I didn't see a discussion yet so figured I'd start one. What files have you safely frozen or removed with root?
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I don't plan on rooting, but would love to hear about disabling apps. Have there been any apps you CAN'T disable and keep out of the app drawer?
Facebook, Instagram, T-Mobile apps (kept visual voicemail, device unlock, and hotspot), flipboard, play books magazine music newsstand, hangouts, Google+, calculator. All without problem, make sure to reboot right after removing system apps.
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tenxo said:
Facebook, Instagram, T-Mobile apps (kept visual voicemail, device unlock, and hotspot), flipboard, play books magazine music newsstand, hangouts, Google+, calculator. All without problem, make sure to reboot right after removing system apps.
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Any of the non-obvious named ones? Like ones that are named as com.samsung.....
I wonder why do you guys root this phone. Do you really not care about Samsung Pay? It's one of the most important features and by rooting this device you make it gone forever.
Fokus007 said:
I wonder why do you guys root this phone. Do you really not care about Samsung Pay? It's one of the most important features and by rooting this device you make it gone forever.
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I think the obvious answer is: yes, they really don't care about Samsung Pay. It being "the most important feature" is highly up to personal opinion
piccit said:
I think the obvious answer is: yes, they really don't care about Samsung Pay. It being "the most important feature" is highly up to personal opinion
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Right, and it's not even available until the summer. Definitely the most important thing to me is having full control over my phone, to remove/add what I want!
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km8j said:
Any of the non-obvious named ones? Like ones that are named as com.samsung.....
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There were more like some widgets, and yes some of those named as you said but only one that I specifically new what they were for! I didn't make a list though, probably should have.
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Fokus007 said:
I wonder why do you guys root this phone. Do you really not care about Samsung Pay? It's one of the most important features and by rooting this device you make it gone forever.
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Never again will I use a computer or phone with ads in it. That's my reason. I couldn't care less about Samsung Pay, if it ever exists.
Fokus007 said:
I wonder why do you guys root this phone. Do you really not care about Samsung Pay? It's one of the most important features and by rooting this device you make it gone forever.
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You do realize that no one knows this for sure bc Samsung Pay isn't even out yet -_-
Fokus007 said:
I wonder why do you guys root this phone. Do you really not care about Samsung Pay? It's one of the most important features and by rooting this device you make it gone forever.
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Not everyone lives in America either... I would be surprised if Samsung pay ever came to Canada.
mrapp said:
Not everyone lives in America either... I would be surprised if Samsung pay ever came to Canada.
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they're probably only interested in deploying in the biggest economy. Canada is like 15th place. speaking from business point of view, probably not worth the effort setting up a bank system with so little money flowing.
Im in the UK. Doubt we will ever see it. Im gonna root. People complain about battery life but those bloatware apps are the biggest battery killers you can get. Facebook, whatsapp, instagram etc
However, we advise you to refrain from rooting your device, as it will disable Samsung Pay, just like KNOX. When you root your device, the integrity gets breached, which is necessary for important and sensitive features like mobile payments.
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Source: sammoble.com
I don't like to pay Samsung so just ROOT!!
Alfa Kenny One said:
I don't like to pay Samsung so just ROOT!!
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but Samsung pay is a really important feature as it is compatible with all debit and credit card machines
ngupta93 said:
but Samsung pay is a really important feature as it is compatible with all debit and credit card machines
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... if it works in your country
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Hawke84 said:
... if it works in your country
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i don't know exactly whether it would work in my country or not, but according to Samsung it is compatible with all the machines out there is it true
It is just a matter of time and we'll find some workaround...Root for life
One thing to note for US users is that in October of this year, people will be switching to pin cards with chips like we use here in the UK. I'm not sure what will happen to the card readers that accept swipe cards, but it seems like they are being phased out. THOUGH, once businesses get new card readers, they will most likely be getting models that will accept NFC payments.
I tried the freedom apk app since I rooted my us cellular smg920r4 on the t mobile cfroot and it won't let me make free purchases anymore since I tripped the Google pay. Oh well
Well a user and I on reddit were rooted and he stated that he couldn't use the Samsung Wallet app because he was rooted. I tried it and got a message saying I was rooted and the app closed. I unrooted and boom the app worked, tripped Knox and all. Not saying it will be the same for Samsung Pay, but there's a glimmer of hope. Also in Smart Manager even with a tripped Knox the Device Security says "Secure" with "No unauthorized system changes detected". So we'll have to just wait and see when it is actually released.
If all else fails and it needs an un-tripped Knox I'll just claim my LED flash always on issue others have been having and get a fresh phone from TMO.
so unroot it even with knox trip will make samsung wallet works rite ?
fair enough
What's unclear is if unrooting with Knox tripped will restore Samsung Pay functionality.
Its ok I dont need it
PunishedSnake said:
Its ok I dont need it
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This.
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Google wallet works fine when you are rooted (or at least used to the last time i bothered to root my device)
What benefit would there be over google wallet with samsung pay?
Samsung Pay is kind of unusable here in the Netherlands. The magnetic stripe was phased out in 2011. Every newly ordered bank card has NFC but not many stores have NFC yet.
So root away.
I know there were a few apps that I had back in the day, that would make an app not see root, even if your phone was rooted, for example, Google pay had a problem for a bit, and after that app, I know it was fixed. I am sure someone will find a work around, they always do!
I am waiting a bit longer for TowelRoot of some kind. all I want is root, not much else. Though it would be nice to get some Lollipop features that Samsung yanks out .
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I know there were a few apps that I had back in the day, that would make an app not see root, even if your phone was rooted, for example, Google pay had a problem for a bit, and after that app, I know it was fixed. I am sure someone will find a work around, they always do!
I am waiting a bit longer for TowelRoot of some kind. all I want is root, not much else. Though it would be nice to get some Lollipop features that Samsung yanks out .
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All hopes on towelroot now....
I'm failing to see how this is confirmation (Maybe I've misread it which is possible ), It seems to me that this is no more than a post on a site with no proof, source etc. maybe this guy knows a guy who knows a guy who works at Samsung in some capacity, I'll wait until it's stated by Samsung that rooting will remove the devices capacity to use the service regardless of unrooting afterwards.
If this does turn out to be true i.e. if Samsung does clearly state that the service is unusable after rooting (and still unusable even after unrooting) then this would be imo kind of funny because a jailbroken iPhone can use Apple pay but a rooted (which is far more the norm on android vs jailbroken on iOS) Galaxy S6 can't.
razor 116 said:
I'm failing to see how this is confirmation (Maybe I've misread it which is possible ), It seems to me that this is no more than a post on a site with no proof, source etc. maybe this guy knows a guy who knows a guy who works at Samsung in some capacity, I'll wait until it's stated by Samsung that rooting will remove the devices capacity to use the service regardless of unrooting afterwards.
If this does turn out to be true i.e. if Samsung does clearly state that the service is unusable after rooting (and still unusable even after unrooting) then this would be imo kind of funny because a jailbroken iPhone can use Apple pay but a rooted (which is far more the norm on android vs jailbroken on iOS) Galaxy S6 can't.
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Sammobile has inside sources at Samsung and rarely gets this stuff wrong. Other Android websites are treating this as news and not rumor for that reason. If they are saying that root breaks Samsung Pay, then you can be 99% sure it does.
Unreal,
Read it here........
http://www.businessinsider.com/unpa...ung-smartphones-risk-hacking-nowsecure-2015-6
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cc999 said:
Unreal,
Read it here........
http://www.businessinsider.com/unpa...ung-smartphones-risk-hacking-nowsecure-2015-6
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From what I understand it has to be done on an unsecured network and has to be at the exact same time as you update the app. Making it next to impossible as a hacker would have to know your updating habits!
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Even with 600 million devices at risk, the chances that this exploit could ever be used is minimal because as mentioned above it required someone to do some pretty unlikely things on a network with a hacker
You guys act like you all work for some intelligence companies and hackers would give a **** to steal your data.
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Totally overblown and already being discussed in the S6 Edge forum (link). Here are the most pertinent posts:
tanjiajun_34 said:
I believe it should be easy to fix. I cannot try because I have have Swiftkey preinstalled but I believe these are the methods you can try...
1. Update the Swiftkey to the one on Play Store.
2. Disable the Swiftkey application. I believe all non Samsung system applications and some of Samsung's system applications should be able to be disabled. Swiftkey shouldn't be a problem...
3. You are here on xda so chances you will be rooting your phone I assume? If you have root, you can just uninstall it.
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Totally overblown vulnerability article today on Swiftkey. Firstly I seriously doubt 600M phones have it. I just checked 8 Samsung phones from various carriers - Sprint, Verizon, US cellular - S3, S4's, S5's, Note 2 and 3's and out of those 8 only one had Swiftkey on it. Easy to uninstall or Freeze if rooted. I take this as a punch back from someone on the Apple fan club finding a minor and hard to exploit vulnerability in android since Apple just got hit big in the last week or so. If you didn't find one of the articles detailing this exploit here's the skinny: It only can be exploited if you are on Wifi and on the same Hotspot or router as a would be hacker. That hacker needs to do some fairly complex stuff to spoof a Swiftkey server and your phone has to be trying to download a language pack update. I'd say there is about a 1 in 600 million chance of that happening
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So, this pretty much sums it up in one word:
cc999 said:
Unreal
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Galaxy S6 Keyboard Security Fix
Hello all,
So we all know about the security flaw of the Samsung keyboard app that has affected the Galaxy S6, S5, S4 and other devices. Simply installing a third-party keyboard will not fix the problem. You need to completely uninstall it.
Source: http://www.naldotech.com/how-to-fix-galaxy-s6-keyboard-swiftkey-security-issue/
Note: Make sure to have a third-party keyboard installed or you will not be able to use the phone.
1. You need root access and Titanium Backup.
2. Open Titanium and go to Backup/Restore.
Scroll down until you find Samsung Keyboard 4.0 and tap on it.
Make a backup first and then press the uninstall button"".
This isn't the best solution but it will work for all the people who want to sleep well at night without the fear of the flaw.
there is nothing to worry about, don't connect to unsecure networks (but how often do you do that) and don't update the language packs when you are on one (how often do you do that? once during setup!!)
ive always preferred the google keyboard, thank you.
The bug is not in the app called "SwiftKey" that comes preinstalled or the one you might get from the Play Store, but in the stock Samsung keyboard app, which uses an SDK from SwiftKey (here referring to SwiftKey the company, not the aforementioned SwiftKey app) to do its word predictions. The vulnerability can be exploited (as I understand it) as often as this stock keyboard polls for language updates. Not sure how often that is, but it isn't user initiated, so it could happen at any time if the app polls for an update while the user is connected to a network with a malicious user on it. The best protection for the average user (as I understand it) is to simply avoid connecting to networks whose security you aren't absolutely certain of. this is the technical writeup where I got most of my info from, however, they do talk about a "Swift keyboard", which the other reputable sources I've seen (such as this SwiftKey article on the issue) clarify as the stock Samsung keyboard.
okay if I understand you correctly you are saying that the Samsung keyboard was developed using the SDK from swifty and the only way to not be vulnerable to this exploit is to remove the stock samsung keyboard and use a third-party alternative is that correct?
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OSI-813 said:
okay if I understand you correctly you are saying that the Samsung keyboard was developed using the SDK from swifty and the only way to not be vulnerable to this exploit is to remove the stock samsung keyboard and use a third-party alternative is that correct?
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If you are rooted and have the ability to completely remove it, I think that would probably get rid of the issue as well, but I can't say that definitively, and I can't say for sure what side effects that might have. (If someone who knows the internals a bit better would weigh in, I would appreciate some clarification on that point as well.) I know that just switching the default keyboard to a third-party isn't good enough. What I am doing until a fix comes out (which doesn't really differ from my normal behaviors, but that's beside the point) is basically only connecting to the wifi at home, work, and the university I am attending. I also added the update site (skslm.swiftkey.net) to my hosts file (using AdAway), which should block any traffic to the update site from leaving the phone.
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okay if I understand you correctly you are saying that the Samsung keyboard was developed using the SDK from swifty and the only way to not be vulnerable to this exploit is to remove the stock samsung keyboard and use a third-party alternative is that correct?
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You could just wait a few days, knowing that the risk is very insignificant in the first place:
Update: Samsung reached out to us to announce that it will soon patch the vulnerability through Knox. Read the full statement below:
Samsung takes emerging security threats very seriously. We are aware of the recent issue reported by several media outlets and are committed to providing the latest in mobile security. Samsung Knox has the capability to update the security policy of the phones, over-the-air, to invalidate any potential vulnerabilities caused by this issue. The security policy updates will begin rolling out in a few days. In addition to the security policy update, we are also working with SwiftKey to address potential risks going forward.
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Source: Phone Arena
They have to initiate the hack the SAME EXACT TIME you update your keyboard app...lol. You've got better chances of being robbed at gun point FYI.
bloodrain954 said:
They have to initiate the hack the SAME EXACT TIME you update your keyboard app...lol. You've got better chances of being robbed at gun point FYI.
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False. Anyone with a little programming knowledge and the right tools could easily set up a program to passively take advantage of this exploit. It doesn't require the user to do anything to the keyboard app, the app polls for updates to its language files every so often regardless of anything the user does. And all the attacker has to do is use software that's already out there that lets them write programs to intercept and alter web traffic. Heck, there's a proof of concept by the people at NowSecure that should be pretty easy to turn into a usable hack. An industrious hacker might not even have to be nearby, they could tuck a Rasperry Pi away in the corner of a starbucks and infect some phones that way. Are you at any risk in most situations? Probably not. But I still would make sure your phone doesn't automatically connect to unsecured wi-fi.
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False. Anyone with a little programming knowledge and the right tools could easily set up a program to passively take advantage of this exploit. ....
An industrious hacker might not even have to be nearby, they could tuck a Rasperry Pi away in the corner of a starbucks and infect some phones that way. Are you at any risk in most situations? Probably not. But I still would make sure your phone doesn't automatically connect to unsecured wi-fi.
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Curious, how often are you on an insecure network? For me, basically pretty much never.
krelvinaz said:
Curious, how often are you on an insecure network? For me, basically pretty much never.
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Haha, also pretty much never.
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False. Anyone with a little programming knowledge and the right tools could easily set up a program to passively take advantage of this exploit. It doesn't require the user to do anything to the keyboard app, the app polls for updates to its language files every so often regardless of anything the user does. And all the attacker has to do is use software that's already out there that lets them write programs to intercept and alter web traffic. Heck, there's a proof of concept by the people at NowSecure that should be pretty easy to turn into a usable hack. An industrious hacker might not even have to be nearby, they could tuck a Rasperry Pi away in the corner of a starbucks and infect some phones that way. Are you at any risk in most situations? Probably not. But I still would make sure your phone doesn't automatically connect to unsecured wi-fi.
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I'm curious, do you buy tinfoil hats in bulk or as needed?
bloodrain954 said:
I'm curious, do you buy tinfoil hats in bulk or as needed?
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I can't tell you that for security reasons.
I think you're more likely to be killed by a cow.
hese security flaws happen all the time and are blown out of proportion by people wanting to scaremonger. Tell me OP how many have been exploited
Well now who would have thought just a couple years ago we would see black berry become something to be talked about again?
I loved my old BB curve 8330. When i get some money saved up i might just have to buy this one. and root it and rom it and brick it and fix it woot fun times ahead with black berry!
I don't think rooting and romming is in this phone's future given the emphasis on security...
I like what are they doing, Priv could be in our Office soon.
I sincerely hope rooting and romming will be in the future, but I won't hold my breath.
Root isn't as useful as it used to be for me personally at least. It breaks too much (Banking Apps, Online TV/Streaming apps, etc) to make it worthwhile. I think Xposed is the only thing I really miss having from being rooted.
The Priv is very nice ok, but if he hopes for some success, it just needs a great camera ! But only f2.2 aperture, so in low light it will sucks...
Lagamorph said:
Root isn't as useful as it used to be for me personally at least. It breaks too much (Banking Apps, Online TV/Streaming apps, etc) to make it worthwhile. I think Xposed is the only thing I really miss having from being rooted.
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I have the Samsung Galaxy Relay for T-Mobile. Our last supported version of Android was 4.2.2. I have 5.0.2 on it now and it runs far better with it. Rooting is ridiculously useful, and breaks none of my banking or streaming apps.
rooting is great, but i will admit that i won't necessary need it in this device. but like any other device if someone will want to, they can crack it. it's a matter of time and will.
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Root isn't as useful as it used to be for me personally at least. It breaks too much (Banking Apps, Online TV/Streaming apps, etc) to make it worthwhile. I think Xposed is the only thing I really miss having from being rooted.
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What banking and streaming apps did root break for you? The only app I've had issues with is Android pay, which is to be expected. I haven't even had to cloak my banking app, or Xfinity streaming they all work with root fully exposed. There was a launcher of all things a long time ago, that didn't like root, I cloaked it, problem solved. I'm really curious what apps you've found that don't like root.
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What banking and streaming apps did root break for you? The only app I've had issues with is Android pay, which is to be expected. I haven't even had to cloak my banking app, or Xfinity streaming they all work with root fully exposed. There was a launcher of all things a long time ago, that didn't like root, I cloaked it, problem solved. I'm really curious what apps you've found that don't like root.
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Business banking app for taking credit card payments on phone. Paypal machine works rooted though
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I have the Samsung Galaxy Relay for T-Mobile. Our last supported version of Android was 4.2.2. I have 5.0.2 on it now and it runs far better with it. Rooting is ridiculously useful, and breaks none of my banking or streaming apps.
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What banking and streaming apps did root break for you? The only app I've had issues with is Android pay, which is to be expected. I haven't even had to cloak my banking app, or Xfinity streaming they all work with root fully exposed. There was a launcher of all things a long time ago, that didn't like root, I cloaked it, problem solved. I'm really curious what apps you've found that don't like root.
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Sky Go, Barclays Banking and Barclaycard all fail to open on rooted devices. They specifically come up with an error message that your device is rooted and that they wont function on rooted devices. I did try apps such as Hidemyroot but these failed more often than they worked for Sky Go, and never worked for the banking apps.
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Sky Go, Barclays Banking and Barclaycard all fail to open on rooted devices. They specifically come up with an error message that your device is rooted and that they wont function on rooted devices. I did try apps such as Hidemyroot but these failed more often than they worked for Sky Go, and never worked for the banking apps.
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Never heard of these apps. All my banking apps work on my rooted phones.
Hello, I have a S10 plus which is out of warranty but I use payment apps on my phone
I want to root my phone to get UI 3.1 for wireless deskX support
My question is, If I root my phone then which features will work n which will not, I dont want to regret so please explain by give link to some thread or explaining here ?
Anything that uses knox, such as those payment apps
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Anything that uses knox, such as those payment apps
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samsung pay definitely uses it but does google pay also use knox ??
SunnyGrewal11 said:
samsung pay definitely uses it but does google pay also use knox ??
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Samsung apps use knox, Google pay will require your phone to pass safetynet which iirc can be fixed with magisk modules or similar, I haven't rooted a phone since S5 days tho so not fully up to speed with the workarounds but by just rooting and doing nothing else it's likely no payment apps will work