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Stop killing android carriers

Cnet just put up a review of the Motorola Atrix, one of the most anticipated smart-phones. AT&T has blocked the ability to download 3rd party apps . "You can't install third-party apps" and goes on to say "No change of heart on third-party applications, as that feature is disabled on the Atrix."
Google's(andy rubin) response is to say let me market decide. I truly agree with this statement but when the carriers are in power (two year contracts) it doesn't let the market work. General consumers dont know know the difference between android phones. Consumer assume since they are getting an android phone, all android phones are the same. This blocking of 3rd party apps creates a bad user experience and users will blame android and not the carriers.
( http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/motorola-atrix-4g-at/4505-6452_7-34468396.html?tag=rvwBody )

Moved to Atrix General

babluc said:
when the carriers are in power (two year contracts) it doesn't let the market work.
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ITA.
Looking on the slighter brighter side, CNET also said this (emphasis added):
Of course, you've also got your obligatory AT&T services--AT&T Navigator, AT&T FamilyMap, and AT&T U-Verse Live TV--on there, but for once, you can actually uninstall any of these apps if you wish.
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It's not enough, but it's a start.

Side loading apps is such a trivial issue on any device, including devices on AT&T. Root not even required. So for the tiny percentage that want to do this (like rooters) the option is there.

No Third party software? No "FREE" bootloader? No reasonable laptop dock price? It really destroyed the purpose of open-sourced software.....I guess AT&T kills the fun of having an Android phone.....I went from "must have one" to "might have one"...sigh.....

My last 3 phones were not purchased from AT&T because of similar issues. AT&T modifies the phone to disable installation of anything not coming from their store.
I've been considering switching to a different provider because I find it very expensive to buy unlocked phones just to get them in their enabled state. I know I would lose the flexibility of using the phone around the world, but I don't travel that much.
Is Verizon doing this same thing on their phones? If not I may consider switching to them. How about Sprint?

sp_1st_timer said:
My last 3 phones were not purchased from AT&T because of similar issues. AT&T modifies the phone to disable installation of anything not coming from their store.
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AT&T restricts third-party apps, which means you can download only from the Android Market - which is not AT&T's store, btw.
Is Verizon doing this same thing on their phones? If not I may consider switching to them. How about Sprint?
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As far as I know, AT&T is the only one of the 4 major carriers that blocks 3rd-party apps. As previously mentioned, getting around that restriction is extremely simple and does not require rooting the phone. The Sideload Wonder Machine, for one, is very easy to use.

has no one in here heard of the side-load wondermachine come on seriously when theres a will theres a way thats my way around att crap O rama

shadowscreation said:
has no one in here heard of the side-load wondermachine come on seriously when theres a will theres a way thats my way around att crap O rama
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The point is we shouldn't have to find ways around it, and buying these devices only says that it's OK to at&t.

eallan said:
The point is we shouldn't have to find ways around it, and buying these devices only says that it's OK to at&t.
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i know what your saying.but considering this is one of atts top o the line phones minus the bs tethering plan for laptop dock(totally ruined that for me by the way). im just hoping that the bootloader isnt crapped up im gonna wait a little bit on buying this till i know theres a way to custom rom the crap out of this phone so ya thats what im waiting on before i decide i want this phone or not if not owell there will be better ones later on this year im sure so guess we will see how this all works out
note to everyone i like grammatical errors and run-on sentences thats what makes life fun

babluc said:
AT&T has blocked the ability to download 3rd party apps
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Relax... thats what xda is for.

peachpuff said:
Relax... thats what xda is for.
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No kidding. Do you really need to get your panties in a wad about sideloading? That's like complaining that it doesn't come rooted from the factory.

peachpuff said:
Relax... thats what xda is for.
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Yes i get that but im talking about common users. Common users will not use XDA or root there phone. Im also not talking just about just this phone. When carriers do stuff like this, it effects how people view android and its ease of use.

babluc said:
Yes i get that but im talking about common users. Common users will not use XDA or root there phone. Im also not talking just about just this phone. When carriers do stuff like this, it effects how people view android and its ease of use.
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Common users aren't going to be side loading to begin with. If its not in the market they aren't going to care. If they care they can google it and find XDA or the plethora of other sites that detail the simple few step process.
i agree it shouldn't be an issue, it is and its an easy fix so I don't worry about it. Efuse is a bigger issue to development that this. If it does have efuse I won't buy it out of principal and I'll get an inspire.

Aridon said:
Common users aren't going to be side loading to begin with. If its not in the market they aren't going to care. If they care they can google it and find XDA or the plethora of other sites that detail the simple few step process.
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Agreed. Anyone who wants to sideload can figure it out. Its probably the easiest hack you could possibly do on your Android phone.
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I know I found out about the side-load wonder machine long before I found XDA. But it just wasn't enough for my Captivate lol. Always wanted more.

DumIam said:
I know I found out about the side-load wonder machine long before I found XDA. But it just wasn't enough for my Captivate lol. Always wanted more.
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And the Cappy always needs more! Here's to hoping the Atrix doesn't.
At least in the performance realm, it doesn't seem too need much help from hacks. Although I'm looking forward to seeing what can be accomplished...

This phone is a powerful machine to begin with. I will be happy once I can root just to delete any bloatware that I can't delete out the box. Sideloading will be nice too..
I just don't like the Motorola interface, launcher pro will be my first install..
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I have decided pass on the Atrix due to pricing tech concerns. I am looking forward to the samsung i9100.
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Google free rom????

Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.

I may be wrong but... Evo is an Android phone... Android = Google. I don't think you'll have much luck getting a Google free Android phone.
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You know these are google/android forums right? I don't think it will be possible at all....

Do you want an aluminum foil hat with that ROM?
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Dude that will never happen. Thats all i have to say

Umm don't listen to anyone who previously posted. You could easily use CyanogenMod with out Google apps to do this. You would be missing the market and any standard app that has the word Google before it like Google maps, but I guess now you could use the Amazon market anyway.
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Actually i had a Samsung intercept that originally had Google android rom and ended up with a non-google phone in the end...... Accidentally flashed a radio from differnet phone and after no signs of Google ..... Or signs of really anything but made a great paper weight!
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u921333 said:
Actually i had a Samsung intercept that originally had Google android rom and ended up with a non-google phone in the end...... Accidentally flashed a radio from differnet phone and after no signs of Google ..... Or signs of really anything but made a great paper weight!
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i dont think you understand what he means... im not a troll . but he said he doesnt want it to have google ,also for it to keep everything private... also look at my new signature LMFAO

sorry quoted wrong guy but yeah if he is lucky and doesnt brick.

how would this be possible ? dont you need a google account to even use the phone ? could probably be wrong.

josh995 said:
I may be wrong but... Evo is an Android phone... Android = Google. I don't think you'll have much luck getting a Google free Android phone.
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You think wrong.
knowledge561 said:
You know these are google/android forums right? I don't think it will be possible at all....
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You think wrong too.
tgruendler said:
Do you want an aluminum foil hat with that ROM?
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Will it match your dunce cap?
davidc23 said:
Dude that will never happen. Thats all i have to say
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You are giving wrong info, that's all I have to say.
jvward said:
Umm don't listen to anyone who previously posted. You could easily use CyanogenMod with out Google apps to do this. You would be missing the market and any standard app that has the word Google before it like Google maps, but I guess now you could use the Amazon market anyway.
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Finally someone smart in this thread.
Any ASOP ROM which doesn't include GAPPS like cyanogyn mod or deck's ASOP rom will do this (minus the sms encryption) as long as you don't flash the GAPPS add ons or enable my location.
I really hate when people act like experts, but don't know what their talking about.

I don't think you're going to find this for the EVO, although I imagine there's a phone out there somewhere that you can accomplish this with.

datajosh said:
I don't think you're going to find this for the EVO, although I imagine there's a phone out there somewhere that you can accomplish this with.
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Wrong again, check my post immediately above yours.

mjs1231 said:
Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.
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When you say free of google what do u mean?? Evo runs android, android is created by Google. There is no way you could have android without Google. If you mean Google apps, as someone else said just run cyanogenmod without GAPPS. You wont be able to do much, won't even be able to load apps that aren't preinstalled.

indagroove said:
You think wrong.
You think wrong too.
Will it match your dunce cap?
You are giving wrong info, that's all I have to say.
Finally someone smart in this thread.
Any ASOP ROM which doesn't include GAPPS like cyanogyn mod or deck's ASOP rom will do this (minus the sms encryption) as long as you don't flash the GAPPS add ons or enable my location.
I really hate when people act like experts, but don't know what their talking about.
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It wouldn't be anymore secure than the current version of Android being ran (which he mentioned and is apparently worried about).. but as far as all the 'monitoring and tracking' and what not, I mean, sure. But what would be the point? Seems like a pretty half assed Android experience.
There is only so much that can be done without the use of, say, GApps ... might get the job done but would essentially kill the idea of even owning said phone.
Get Yo'Self a Jitterbug

bwcorvus said:
When you say free of google what do u mean?? Evo runs android, android is created by Google. There is no way you could have android without Google. If you mean Google apps, as someone else said just run cyanogenmod without GAPPS. You wont be able to do much, won't even be able to load apps that aren't preinstalled.
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Obviously the OS is made by Google, but I don't think that's what he meant. I think he means a rom which won't constantly sync with google's servers.
Also, you CAN sideload apps without market or GAPPS installed, the trick is just to find the .apk files somewhere other than google market, but most are on either amazon market or Edit, so again another WRONG piece of info given out here.

conqu1stador said:
It wouldn't be anymore secure than the current version of Android being ran (which he mentioned).. but as far as all the 'monitoring and tracking' and what not, I mean, sure. But what would be the point? Seems like a pretty half assed Android experience.
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Although I wouldn't do it myself, I can see the point. You would have way better battery life without the constant syncing. Also takes much less ram. Not everyone cares about sync with gmail, contacts, and calendar. Some just want a nice smooth OS. It would be more secure, because everything wouldn't go through google's servers.

mjs1231 said:
Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.
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Seriously? This is like asking for the competitor iPhone and not wanting Apple to make it. If you didn't want a Google phone then why did you buy a phone with software developed by Google? Please don't tell me you Yahoo'd your phone. That would just be an Epic Fail!

mdean1981 said:
Seriously? This is like asking for the competitor iPhone and not wanting Apple to make it. If you didn't want a Google phone then why did you buy a phone with software developed by Google? Please don't tell me you Yahoo'd your phone. That would just be an Epic Fail!
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Actually it's more like having an iphone and not paying for mobile me. But in this case it's a better situation because you wouldn't have to register with google to get the apps (get them somewhere else as I suggested previously), like you would have to with apple.

indagroove said:
Although I wouldn't do it myself, I can see the point. You would have way better battery life without the constant syncing. Also takes much less ram. Not everyone cares about sync with gmail, contacts, and calendar. Some just want a nice smooth OS. It would be more secure, because everything wouldn't go through google's servers.
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I get the 'tracking' and what not ... but no one is really 'tracking' you. Recorded, maybe. But what does that even really matter in the end?
I get that you want to point out that it can be done, and others were wrong, but it was a silly question none the less.
And, sure, of course - less RAM. And no syncing? Could always disable. But freeing up RAM and what not? Running a smooth experience? It's not going to be that much smoother than should you elect to NOT use proprietary apps. It's not going to be a 'night and day' thing.
I'm more or less curious what the OP wants to do with his phone. Yeah, getting apps from other avenues is always a possibility ... sure. But getting apps from outside of the Market isn't going to offer less system stability, or smoothness, as opposed to getting them from the market.
Sure, I suppose it could be done ... but what are you trying to do? And, as said, it's only as secure as the latest version of Android ... which is constantly facing security issues.
It was sort of a silly post. Gotta admit that much.

Bloatware Removal Thread

Now that the AT&T Galaxy S3 is rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726960
My favorite thing to do after a first root is to use Titanium Backup to delete all the bloatware. Here's the list of stuff I took off:
AT&T Messages
AT&T Navigator
ChatOn
DeviceHelp
Flipboard
Media Hub
Music Player
My Files
My AT&T
S Memo
S Suggest
Play Books
Play Movies
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
YP Mobile
My list is just from a quick glance. If anyone else knows of other bloatware items that can be safely removed please post and add them.

Flipboard will stay on mine. Love that app.

stevieraveon said:
Flipboard will stay on mine. Love that app.
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I agree. I would remove the entire list above except for Flipboard. If you set it up to just the things you're interested in, it works really well.

Can't you just disable it. Doesnt it do the same thing as removing it or freezing?
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manny05 said:
Can't you just disable it. Doesnt it do the same thing as removing it or freezing?
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Yeah, totally and it wont void your warranty or tip the counter

How do you disable it? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I just moved from the iPhone

Brianaro said:
How do you disable the? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I just moved from the iPhone
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Settings/application manager/all then just choose the one you want to disable and click "disable" at the top. If it updated itself, click "uninstall updates" first, then "disable" will be available

First run around, give it time u will learn everything. Dont rush, read and understand the language spoken, the software and its uses.
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manny05 said:
Can't you just disable it. Doesnt it do the same thing as removing it or freezing?
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there are some things u cant disable , so no its not the same , i removed all at&t crap and most of the samsung crap and phone is so much faster . (actual use not stupid speed tests )
dont things that are "disabled come back on after reboot anyway?
and to the guys that are worried about warranty i dont understand y you would even come to a site like xda ?? ive never had a none rooted phone so forgive me for not understanding .
ive never had any warranty issues with htc or samsung, ive sent my bootloader unlocked nexus one and nexus s , and rooted skyrocket in with no issues (directly to manufacture )....

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there are some things u cant disable , so no its not the same , i removed all at&t crap and most of the samsung crap and phone is so much faster . (actual use not stupid speed tests )
dont things that are "disabled come back on after reboot anyway?
and to the guys that are worried about warranty i dont understand y you would even come to a site like xda ?? ive never had a none rooted phone so forgive me for not understanding .
ive never had any warranty issues with htc or samsung, ive sent my bootloader unlocked nexus one and nexus s , and rooted skyrocket in with no issues (directly to manufacture )....
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With an att phone, u return it to att, not samsung. All newer Samsung phones have a flash counter that logs every time its been modified software wise so if it's been rooted, they can tell, the warranty is void, and if something is legitimately wrong with it, you get ****. In fact, you will still be on the hook for your contract so either cough up 550$ for a new phone or $350 to back out of the contract. Maybe they will catch it, maybe not but that's a pretty expensive gamble to take
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What is the difference between freezing and disabling? I always freeze using titanium backup.
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How do you use Titanium Backup to delete all the bloatware?
Thanx for taking my question.

paleman27 said:
How do you use Titanium Backup to delete all the bloatware?
Thanx for taking my question.
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Have to be rooted and then either freeze or delete individual apps under the backup/restore section.
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Here is what I have frozen / disabled:
All Share Controller
All Share Play
All Share Service
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Messages
AT&T Navigator
Bluetooth Share
Bubbles
Clock
Clock Funky
Clock Modern
ChatOn
DeviceHelp
Deep Sea
Dual Clock Analog
Dual Clock Digital
FlipBoard
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Search
Google+
Kies Air
Kies Via Wifi
Live Wallpaper Picker
Luminous Dots
Media Hub
Mobile Print
myAT&T
Phase Beam
S Suggest
Samsung Keyboard
Voice Recorder
Voice Search
Windy Weather
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
YPmobile

Can someone clarify something for me? On my other rooted devices if you deleted bloat then you couldn't get OTA updates to either download or install. Is this the case with Samsung devices? I usually just freeze with Titanium and restore when an update rolls out.

johnnyutah22 said:
Can someone clarify something for me? On my other rooted devices if you deleted bloat then you couldn't get OTA updates to either download or install. Is this the case with Samsung devices? I usually just freeze with Titanium and restore when an update rolls out.
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There is no reason to delete with these phones anymore. Freezing is perfectly fine and achieves the same thing. Ota will probably work the same so better safe than sorry lol.
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drawde40599 said:
there are some things u cant disable , so no its not the same , i removed all at&t crap and most of the samsung crap and phone is so much faster . (actual use not stupid speed tests )
dont things that are "disabled come back on after reboot anyway?
and to the guys that are worried about warranty i dont understand y you would even come to a site like xda ?? ive never had a none rooted phone so forgive me for not understanding .
ive never had any warranty issues with htc or samsung, ive sent my bootloader unlocked nexus one and nexus s , and rooted skyrocket in with no issues (directly to manufacture )....
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Agree.. I have never had an issue either...
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With an att phone, u return it to att, not samsung. All newer Samsung phones have a flash counter that logs every time its been modified software wise so if it's been rooted, they can tell, the warranty is void, and if something is legitimately wrong with it, you get ****. In fact, you will still be on the hook for your contract so either cough up 550$ for a new phone or $350 to back out of the contract. Maybe they will catch it, maybe not but that's a pretty expensive gamble to take
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I have warrantied numerous phones to AT&T that were rooted.. I have NEVER had one denied or been charged.. That's not to say it can't or won't happen because I know they can but I have never seen or heard of anyone getting denied...
IMHO, disabling via the hone system is the better option simply because the disable sticks on reboot... I however still need root because I for one can't live without AdFree...

Here is my list. Keep in mind that I use my market-purchased apps for texting, phone/contacts, calendar and a few other things.
So I've disabled some things that other folks shouldn't.
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Messages
AT&T Navigator
AT&T SOftware update
ChatON
Clock (digital)
Clock (funky)
CLock (modem)
Contacts 4.0.4
DirectShareManager
Dual clock (analog)
Dual clock (digital)
Email 4.0
FWUpgrade 1.2.0
Gmail
Google+
[BOOKMARKS] Internet
Kies air 2.1
Kies via WiFi
Media Hub
[SMS/MMS PREFS]
Mobile print
My files
My Uploads
myAT&T
Nearby devices
News Daemon
Phase beam 1.0
Samsung keyboard
SNS 1.01
Tags 1.1
Talk 4.0.4
TalkBack
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
YPMobile
I'm far from done.
This was just the quick & easy stuff.
I'm getting better battery life than with any phone I've had before.
Last one was a GSII Skyrocket.

raqball said:
Agree.. I have never had an issue either...
I have warrantied numerous phones to AT&T that were rooted.. I have NEVER had one denied or been charged.. That's not to say it can't or won't happen because I know they can but I have never seen or heard of anyone getting denied...
IMHO, disabling via the hone system is the better option simply because the disable sticks on reboot... I however still need root because I for one can't live without AdFree...
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The flash counter was implemented on samsung phones since the tab so it's very new and AFAIK, only samsung does it. Up to now, someone who knew what they were doing would have to make a determination if the phones software was tampered with, this system does not need anyone to make that determination. It will be no different than the moisture sensor...

altitude909 said:
The flash counter was implemented on samsung phones since the tab so it's very new and AFAIK, only samsung does it. Up to now, someone who knew what they were doing would have to make a determination if the phones software was tampered with, this system does not need anyone to make that determination. It will be no different than the moisture sensor...
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There is a flash counter on the SGS2 as well and Chainfire was able to figure out a way to reset it (Triangle Away app). I'm sure it will be possible with this phone too eventually.
According to the comments, it works on the international S3 already.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en

Verizon Bloat in 5.1

Looks like Verizon somehow got their backup bloat into the Nexus 6 5.1 image. I am on AT&T and have the backup app with Verizon's logo for it.
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stooley said:
Looks like Verizon somehow got their backup bloat into the Nexus 6 5.1 image. I am on AT&T and have the backup app with Verizon's logo for it.
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That is disgusting to see. Then again, like SprintDM, the phones will have all of this so that all the models with have the same OS and therefore one model for all networks.

stooley said:
Looks like Verizon somehow got their backup bloat into the Nexus 6 5.1 image. I am on AT&T and have the backup app with Verizon's logo for it.
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Somehow I think you'll survive.
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Can it be uninstalled?
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Doesn't look like Verizon. file name says com.motorola.android.buacontactadapter

Yup, go to Accounts and click Add Account, you'll see 2 Verizon items in there, Backup and Verizon!!!! I'm on a T-Mobile Nexus 6 too. Grrrr
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Doesn't look like Verizon. file name says com.motorola.android.buacontactadapter
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It's the same backup assistant my gf had on her Razr M from Verizon.

nxt said:
Yup, go to Accounts and click Add Account, you'll see 2 Verizon items in there, Backup and Verizon!!!! I'm on a T-Mobile Nexus 6 too. Grrrr
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It's the same backup assistant my gf had on her Razr M from Verizon.
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When I click add, I see backup but I don't see Verizon. I click on backup and it just goes to a blank account screen. I definitely don't doubt you but I just thought it was odd it has Motorola in the process name.

biggiestuff said:
When I click add, I see backup but I don't see Verizon. I click on backup and it just goes to a blank account screen. I definitely don't doubt you but I just thought it was odd it has Motorola in the process name.
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You know what, I think Verizon shows up because I have the My Fios app installed, yeah that's why.

My Nexus 6 has this App and I didn't buy it in the US (nor do I use it there).
It's very disappointing to see stuff like that which can't be disabled.
There's also something called "VZWAPN"

Daveoc64 said:
My Nexus 6 has this App and I didn't buy it in the US (nor do I use it there).
It's very disappointing to see stuff like that which can't be disabled.
There's also something called "VZWAPN"
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YUCK. The worst part is you can't even disable it or uninstall it. OH well it's going right next to SprintDM in titanium backup frozen hell

There's SprintDM and T-Mobile MyAccount too, on mine. Sounds like the risk of having a single update for all carriers is you gotta have the stuff for all carriers in it. I wonder if the factory image will have this stuff.

SolsticeZero said:
There's SprintDM and T-Mobile MyAccount too, on mine. Sounds like the risk of having a single update for all carriers is you gotta have the stuff for all carriers in it. I wonder if the factory image will have this stuff.
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Exactly. People need to get over this.

Think isn't that bad ?
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stas333 said:
Exactly. People need to get over this.
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Yeah, it's really not bad. It's not like the apps are even being used at all. I mean, you can always delete the apks with a file manager if it hurts that much.

SolsticeZero said:
There's SprintDM and T-Mobile MyAccount too, on mine. Sounds like the risk of having a single update for all carriers is you gotta have the stuff for all carriers in it. I wonder if the factory image will have this stuff.
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The t-mobile one you can uninstall. I don't have that one on my phone. The sprintDM and verizon backup wouldn't be such a big deal if it was just on the phone but the fact that it runs in the background is the annoying part for me. I'll probably end up needing that Verizon one as I plan on swapping my VZ and Tmobile sims from time to time. I hope 5.1 allows me to just swap the sim in instead of factory resetting the phone.

biggiestuff said:
The t-mobile one you can uninstall. I don't have that one on my phone. The sprintDM and verizon backup wouldn't be such a big deal if it was just on the phone but the fact that it runs in the background is the annoying part for me. I'll probably end up needing that Verizon one as I plan on swapping my VZ and Tmobile sims from time to time. I hope 5.1 allows me to just swap the sim in instead of factory resetting the phone.
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All you have to do is switch sims, no need to reset. Also you have 3 GB of ram in the phone. You'll be OK.
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david279 said:
All you have to do is switch sims, no need to reset. Also you have 3 GB of ram in the phone. You'll be OK.
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Good to hear they fixed that in 5.1 . every ounce of RAM counts hahaha. I'm just OCD when it comes to memory management hahaha.

biggiestuff said:
YUCK. The worst part is you can't even disable it or uninstall it. OH well it's going right next to SprintDM in titanium backup frozen hell
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Wow, people. You should really listen to yourselves. When you have a device that works on multiple carriers, there are ALWAYS going to be carrier specific libraries in order to make things work. Yes, there's a VZWAPN APK. Yes, there's a SprintDM APK, there are also US Cellular-specific APKs in there, and there's probably some very T-Mobile and AT&T specific code if you want to dig for it. Christ, people. You have a phone that works on just about every network in the history of the world. Do you think that all happens just like magic without any involvement from any carrier at all?
And for those of you outside the US, clearly Google doesn't want to have to manage two separate ROMs for the Nexus 6 just over a few APKs, so yeah, your ROM is going to have APKs for US based carriers in it too. Somehow, I think you'll survive.
Come on, now. I know y'all are smarter than this.

I think its funny people are calling it bloat. Like its bing maps, skype or the samsung S apps.

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Wow, people. You should really listen to yourselves. When you have a device that works on multiple carriers, there are ALWAYS going to be carrier specific libraries in order to make things work. Yes, there's a VZWAPN APK. Yes, there's a SprintDM APK, there are also US Cellular-specific APKs in there, and there's probably some very T-Mobile and AT&T specific code if you want to dig for it. Christ, people. You have a phone that works on just about every network in the history of the world. Do you think that all happens just like magic without any involvement from any carrier at all?
And for those of you outside the US, clearly Google doesn't want to have to manage two separate ROMs for the Nexus 6 just over a few APKs, so yeah, your ROM is going to have APKs for US based carriers in it too. Somehow, I think you'll survive.
Come on, now. I know y'all are smarter than this.
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We are smarter than that. That's why we freeze it. . It's just one of the things friends ask me is. Why do you like nexus phones and why should I switch? I tell them that nexus phones don't have all that bloatware carrier phones come with. And while it's still free of bloatware for the most part, I hope it's not a trend in the wrong direction. If they can install carrier apps depending on what carrier Sim, why weren't they able to keep these apps carrier specific? It's not THAT big of a deal for now but like I said I hope it doesn't go in the wrong direction.
My theory is that eventually the upcoming Google wireless service will be compatible across all 4 carriers. Imagine never having a coverage issue because you have a phone that works on all 4 concurrently with one service.

Missing some Advanced Features from settings...

Is anyone else missing some features from the advance feature menus on the verizon s7 edge? I was looking for the switch for the app drawer removal and the switch for the white pages caller id. Is there any way to sideload with out rooting? I cannot root i use samsung pay everyday.

Verizon has removed the white pages feature.

Any way to enable them like you can with adaptive storage?
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Coming from an iPhone 5s to this thing and I am again reminded of carrier tampering and bloatware on Android phones. Seriously, why would Verizon not allow users to try out the app drawer removal option?

megamanfre said:
Any way to enable them like you can with adaptive storage?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/help/enable-white-pages-hopefully-t3333735
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blulite01 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/help/enable-white-pages-hopefully-t3333735
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FYI - This doesn't actually do anything. It will say you've turned it on, but it doesn't work.

They also removed the auto restart feature.

I finally have 7.0 on my Verizon GS7 Edge. I know Verizon blocks some Samsung​ features, but I was wondering if anyone has a list of everything that is missing. Unfortunately, this is a work phone, so I can't just switch carriers. I had the Note 7 with T-Mobile, but we all know how that turned out. Rather than carrying 2 S7 Edge phones I decided to cancel my line with T-Mo and just rock the one phone for a while. Now I'm wondering if that was a mistake.
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For everybody upset about the removal of features, wait for the 7.0 U firmware and flash it.

raduque said:
For everybody upset about the removal of features, wait for the 7.0 U firmware and flash it.
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If it ever comes LOL

Hey, just be happy they didn't remove the GPS, phone-dialer, SMS and the clock - and then offer to sell them back to you [VZ Clock, VZ GPS, VZ Phone, etc.]
Hell, I'm kind of surprised they don't remove the entire Android OS and offer to sell THAT back to you for a monthly fee.

FoxyDrew said:
If it ever comes LOL
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It will. XDA as a whole is just a bunch of impatient whiners, and I've been here a long time.
afh3 said:
Hey, just be happy they didn't remove the GPS, phone-dialer, SMS and the clock - and then offer to sell them back to you [VZ Clock, VZ GPS, VZ Phone, etc.]
Hell, I'm kind of surprised they don't remove the entire Android OS and offer to sell THAT back to you for a monthly fee.
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Well, they do have VZ Nav, and I'm honestly surprised they haven't blocked Google Maps from their branded devices. Back in the early days of Android, they actually didn't ship them with Maps, though you could still install it later.

raduque said:
It will. XDA as a whole is just a bunch of impatient whiners, and I've been here a long time.
Well, they do have VZ Nav, and I'm honestly surprised they haven't blocked Google Maps from their branded devices. Back in the early days of Android, they actually didn't ship them with Maps, though you could still install it later.
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I remember on my Omnia Verizon locked the GPS, it worked only With VZNav. Definitely a shady company.
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On a related note, is there a repository of apk files for all stock apps in the 935U firmware? I might try installing P the app alone.
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you could see if this work for whitepages if you are rooted
https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/themes/whitepages-att-stock-fw-t3431054