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sprint bloatware

just curious what you guys consider sprint bloatware? and what you consider good sprint software?

The only sprint software I keep on my phone is nav and football. And even football is going bye-bye after Sunday.

I classify all applications that are not detrimental to the operation/function of the phone and can't be removed as "bloatware/crapware".
Sprint NAV
Sprint TV
NFL
Nascar
TouchWiz
Amazon MP3
Games
Allshare
etc...
Don't get me wrong, I DO use some of these applications, but I would like the option of removing them from the system without rooting.
Personally, I feel the phone should come with vanilla Android. Then, phone manufacturer's should give us the option to download and install their applications from the Market.

It's been so long since it's been on my phone I almost forgot about them. I would say NASCAR, Sprint Football, Amazon mp3, and any game that is a demo only. Sprint Navigation(telnav) is actually pretty nice but unneeded since we have Google Navigation. Obviously this just my opinion and these apps might be useful to others.
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call me noob , but i like Touch wiz , at first i didnt , but now its cool it grew on me, and your right allshare is crap , I absolutly hate it. I could never get allshare to work as it should with my pc , it woudlnt play any windows files or any video, they made me put pc share to be able to play some files

Any sprint app minus sprint nav. That one actually comes in handh
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OregonLAN said:
Don't get me wrong, I DO use some of these applications, but I would like the option of removing them from the system without rooting.
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That's my definition. I like Sprint Navigation, and probably wouldn't uninstall Sprint TV. But I would still like the option to uninstall them if I decided I wanted to.
That's the difference between something being defined as a "value added pack-in" and "bloatware". I hope someday the carriers realize this.

well heres my thought on it
they should just clone bruce lee. that would solve all the issues with sprint

Bloatware:
1.Everything Sprint, Except the sprint updater and android extension which i dont know that this does?
2.Touchwiz Widgets
3.The regular android launcher considering launcher pro is simply the best and most customizable.
4. Asphault Demo (Seriously who wants to keep a stupid demo on your phone and waste space.
5.Amazon mp3, i mean its on the market if you want it and the one on the phone is probaly outdated. But this is crapware to me.
6. Media Hub: If you use it fine but again it is probaly outdated and is also on the market. I consider it crapware, waste of money to rent small screen movies or even buy when i can take any movie i have an convert it.
7.My files is bloatware., Astro is way better!!
8.Buddies now, another TW application. i dont like.
9. Email Client ( i only use gmail and have my aol accounts pop email set up on it.
10.Sprint mobile hotspot considering 30 bucks a month is rediculous considering we have a premium data fee already. I have mobile ap in replace of this
11.Qik= Sucky and outdated and is on the market. i never had any luck with video chatting very well, i use tango.
12. Youtube: The Evo Youtube is better!
13: All the live wallpapers: There are more awesome one on the market.
14: The Touchwiz Launcher: However i keep it so i can make my Mobile ap work and themes that use this framework.
Things i like that came with the phone:
Calendar
Calculator
Alarm Clock
Allshare
Memo
Music
Think Free office
Voicemail
Gmail
And any other things that came with the phone and arent listed here or on the things i consider bloatware.

A phone with android OS. Everything else is bloatware. If it is good software they want me to try then there should be a list of recommended software it should never be preinstalled much less preinstalled with no means of removal. I think good Sprint software are the plugins used for accessing their network.

Effectively, anything that can't be removed without rooting is bloatware..I personally don't mind if a carrier pre-installs bloatware..BUT it should have the option to remove it and add it any time..I mean its silly that you gotta reinstall all the "bloatware" just to update android officially via OTA...
I do not think "recommendations" to download from the market is the way to go as most consumers are average consumers...and if carriers did that it would make android sales worse in general..BUT they should give us the ability of removing them and re-installing them whenever we please without need to root...
As for the Asphalt demo...thats pure crap right there...ALL the Galaxy S come with free FULL version of Asphalt 5 available via Samsung Kies...and Sprint shafts us with a Demo preinstalled with no way to remove >.>

so in order to remove it , it must be rooted right? and from my understanding , cyanogenmod is the purest form of android ? sorry but sometimes hard to understand and see the differences between all the roms

You know the phones with the sprint id have the option to install clean which has no sprint bloatware. Kind of a step in the right direction.
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Yea I saw that on my wifes lg optimus s. although kind of odd, is sprint id in a way themeing it?

boominz28 said:
so in order to remove it , it must be rooted right? and from my understanding , cyanogenmod is the purest form of android ? sorry but sometimes hard to understand and see the differences between all the roms
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Frankenstein is very clean with nothing installed. You can pick and choose which apps to install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884075

All of it sucks to me except calculator, memo, calendar and gmail. TW grew on me too, but now I use Zeam and I can never go back to TW now. Allshare, buddies now, all the sprint stuff, music player...it stinks. Not that everything is bloatware. Some people find some of it useful. Just not to me.

For those that still want the Sprint NFL app, you send a text message to 7777 and put NFL in the body of the text message and Sprint will send you a download link.
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Google wallet and AT&T S3

Is there, or will there be a way to use google wallet on the non sprint S3s? With or without root or rom?

There has to be some info on this out there. Is Google Wallet just a gimmick or will this really take off? If so I would think AT$T and Verizon being bigger providers than Sprint, there would have to be the ability to get these to work with it.

wiz4769 said:
There has to be some info on this out there. Is Google Wallet just a gimmick or will this really take off? If so I would think AT$T and Verizon being bigger providers than Sprint, there would have to be the ability to get these to work with it.
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there is info on this, if you search.
wallet is only support officially by sprint. the rest of the carriers you will have to find the modded apk for wallet.
(also, i hit the thanks button accidentally instead of 'quote' on your post, so free thanks for you!)

I searched, but anything that comes up is about Sprint having it and AT&T not...But at least I know that it will be possible at some point.

The question is if the At&t version has a secure element. If it doesn't, then there is no chance.
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How do we go about finding something like that out? If they are wanting their version of the s3 to work with some other "google wallet" type system, it would seem it would have all the same requirements. I dont see them killing the ability completely, just had the software side removed. But who knows what these guys will do these days.

Att is developing their own system with some other carriers called ISIS. Probably not a chance to get Google wallet working on the att version.
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wiz4769 said:
Is there, or will there be a way to use google wallet on the non sprint S3s? With or without root or rom?
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I would try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365360
EDIT: That only works on rooted devices, my bad

Having to root it is not a big deal, I just wanted to know it was possible to use it if the need came up. Right now I dont think NFC payments are big enough to consider a must have, but if the day comes that 8 of 10 shops use some sort of nfc payment system it will change my mind for sure. I just like to know that I can do something. Im sorta waiting to root as well Its running like a champ and everything that i use daily is working without a root. Once a nice easy one click is out that will not trip the counter I will go for it, or if some app or ability that I just have to use requires it. But just enjoying the phone for now as is

I am rooted still doesn't work on i747 just hangs on activating
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Maybe now that so many are getting this phone we will see some work being done to figure this out.

to get it to work you will need to fudge the phone into thinking it's connected with Sprint using Market Enabler or equivalent. That's I had to do on my G Nexus in canada.

so, for some reason, i installed it, it loads but i get this message, and just stopps.
"Initializing your device. this make take a few min...... blahh blahh.. "
thats it..

Worked for me on Canadian sgs3...
I'll try post instructions for it tomorrow evening.
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[Q] deleting stock apps

I got a new Nexus 4, from my girl actually :good: But I want to clean as much space as possiable by rooting it. But when I rooted my old LG P990 the thing got slow. I don't want this to happen to this phone becuase it is such a nice phone and very fast now.
If I do root, can I delete these apps without any problems to the phone: (ex. slow, other apps not working, etc..)
Currents
Earth
email
google+
hangouts
local
messenger
movie studio
news/weather
youtube
Basic daydreams
android live wallpapers
bubbles
google korean keyboard (can I install Chinese? I am living in china studying Chinese)
Phase Beam
Quick Office
live wallpaper picker
music visualization wallpapers
Thank you. I am loving this new phone. I swear i would never touch anything LG after the P990. But the girl got it for me and I fell in love. But after this phone I still won't buy another LG. Sumsong 4 is my dream still...

It won't make a difference in speed but when a OTA update comes out it will not install
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Rooting your phone doesn't make it slow. You might as well just flash a custom ROM over it because when a new OTA comes and your girl accepts the OTA, it'll probably fail with you deleting apps from the /system/app/ folder. I recommend Carbon Rom with Franco Kernel (kernel matters more than the ROM in terms of speediness)
If you want to keep it stock... then yes removing those apps are fine.
If you want the Chinese Keyboard then just download https://play.google.com/store/apps/...29nbGUuYW5kcm9pZC5pbnB1dG1ldGhvZC5waW55aW4iXQ..
Why remove YouTube? YouTube is awesome and takes rarely any space.

zephiK said:
Rooting your phone doesn't make it slow. You might as well just flash a custom ROM over it because when a new OTA comes and your girl accepts the OTA, it'll probably fail with you deleting apps from the /system/app/ folder. I recommend Carbon Rom with Franco Kernel (kernel matters more than the ROM in terms of speediness)
If you want to keep it stock... then yes removing those apps are fine.
If you want the Chinese Keyboard then just download https://play.google.com/store/apps/...29nbGUuYW5kcm9pZC5pbnB1dG1ldGhvZC5waW55aW4iXQ..
Why remove YouTube? YouTube is awesome and takes rarely any space.
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Thanks for the help.
How can I delete them if I don't root? I am guessing I can't as I couldn't on my P990.
Also, about the OTA. So if I root, I will lost the abilty to update over the air?! Wow, didn't know that. That is a nice feature as I don't have a computer, I have the Surface RT and whenever I want to update or re-root my P990 I have to borrow a friends laptop. Its a PETA!
I don't watch contant on my phone or stream anything as I can't afford big data plans. If I am around wifi and need youtube, I go to my Surface RT, easier to search, etc. I don't consume content with phones. They are a tool for business for me. Plus youtube is blocked in China...
Thank you!

lgnationrc said:
Thanks for the help.
How can I delete them if I don't root? I am guessing I can't as I couldn't on my P990.
Also, about the OTA. So if I root, I will lost the abilty to update over the air?! Wow, didn't know that. That is a nice feature as I don't have a computer, I have the Surface RT and whenever I want to update or re-root my P990 I have to borrow a friends laptop. Its a PETA!
I don't watch contant on my phone or stream anything as I can't afford big data plans. If I am around wifi and need youtube, I go to my Surface RT, easier to search, etc. I don't consume content with phones. They are a tool for business for me. Plus youtube is blocked in China...
Thank you!
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It isn't root that will not allow you to flash the OTA. Its the removal of stock apps.
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You can also always revert the root, without loosing anything...
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El Daddy said:
It isn't root that will not allow you to flash the OTA. Its the removal of stock apps.
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ok. I was looking at the apps tab under settings and I noticed you can disable the stock apps. Do many people do this? I assume this will stop the app from working and not allow it to use the internet, correct?
Also, if I disable the ones listed above would that screw up other google apps? Will it make the phone a little faster? Maybe not noticable, but possiable?

Yeah disabling them means just that. Disabling Google apps may break things. I doubt disabling apps will make the phone faster. Its pretty fast the way it is.
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El Daddy said:
Yeah disabling them means just that. Disabling Google apps may break things. I doubt disabling apps will make the phone faster. Its pretty fast the way it is.
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Yeah, the N4 is not a Samsung device packed with bloatware. There is very less gain in wiping system apps.

gee2012 said:
Yeah, the N4 is not a Samsung device packed with bloatware. There is very less gain in wiping system apps.
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Agreed although I do disagree with the bloatware part to a certain extent. Google does bloat their phones with Google apps such as: Google+ etc. I personally don't use it but it comes shipped. But yeah when compared to the other devices it doesn't have carrier apps or any Samsung app store or whatever.
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So are we the only carrier who's N3's came without Knox and Chat On pre-installed??

I realize Chat On can easily be downloaded from the playstore, n it's not a huge deal but I was just surprised to not see it pre-installed on a Samsung device. Especially since it was used in the demo so much. I assume this is because Verizon wants u using their message service (keep dreaming verizon), but still none the less surprising to me.
Now onto Knox. Although it's not something I know for sure that I would use, it is also an app that was being promoted very hard as a great new feature. Well where is it first of all? Am I missing something? Like I said Idk if I would wanna use it anyway;but it would sure be nice to have the option to give it a try and decide for myself if it's something I want. Again Verizon, keep dreaming! I don't think any of us want your security services or your messaging app or your navigation! So yes I'm aware I can easily add chat on, but can anyone help with any info on getting Knox app on my phone? I don't think I'll be rooting this phone, for now anyway, so I would like to try Knox just to see what it's about. Any help/info is appreciated guys, thanks.
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Ibkevin said:
I realize Chat On can easily be downloaded from the playstore, n it's not a huge deal but I was just surprised to not see it pre-installed on a Samsung device. Especially since it was used in the demo so much. I assume this is because Verizon wants u using their message service (keep dreaming verizon), but still none the less surprising to me.
Now onto Knox. Although it's not something I know for sure that I would use, it is also an app that was being promoted very hard as a great new feature. Well where is it first of all? Am I missing something? Like I said Idk if I would wanna use it anyway;but it would sure be nice to have the option to give it a try and decide for myself if it's something I want. Again Verizon, keep dreaming! I don't think any of us want your security services or your messaging app or your navigation! So yes I'm aware I can easily add chat on, but can anyone help with any info on getting Knox app on my phone? I don't think I'll be rooting this phone, for now anyway, so I would like to try Knox just to see what it's about. Any help/info is appreciated guys, thanks.
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Sir Knox is already on the phone. It is not an app you can go into. but if you check the services running it is running from all i have read and understand.
You can do a search on your phone and see Knox apps all over the place.. Like 9 diff pieces to it... Thier is a thread on on the parts of it on this forum already

Actually I just found the actual truth about Knox and the Verizon N3, here it is. Yes there is Knox stuff under application manager, and yes Knox is under device administrator's, and actually Yes Knox is an app that can be opened, but NO Knox is NOT currently on the Verizon phone! Screen shots below.
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Confirmed: Rooting & tripping Knox will disable Samsung Pay

However, we advise you to refrain from rooting your device, as it will disable Samsung Pay, just like KNOX. When you root your device, the integrity gets breached, which is necessary for important and sensitive features like mobile payments.
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Source: sammoble.com

I don't like to pay Samsung so just ROOT!!

Alfa Kenny One said:
I don't like to pay Samsung so just ROOT!!
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but Samsung pay is a really important feature as it is compatible with all debit and credit card machines

ngupta93 said:
but Samsung pay is a really important feature as it is compatible with all debit and credit card machines
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... if it works in your country
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Hawke84 said:
... if it works in your country
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i don't know exactly whether it would work in my country or not, but according to Samsung it is compatible with all the machines out there is it true

It is just a matter of time and we'll find some workaround...Root for life

One thing to note for US users is that in October of this year, people will be switching to pin cards with chips like we use here in the UK. I'm not sure what will happen to the card readers that accept swipe cards, but it seems like they are being phased out. THOUGH, once businesses get new card readers, they will most likely be getting models that will accept NFC payments.

I tried the freedom apk app since I rooted my us cellular smg920r4 on the t mobile cfroot and it won't let me make free purchases anymore since I tripped the Google pay. Oh well

Well a user and I on reddit were rooted and he stated that he couldn't use the Samsung Wallet app because he was rooted. I tried it and got a message saying I was rooted and the app closed. I unrooted and boom the app worked, tripped Knox and all. Not saying it will be the same for Samsung Pay, but there's a glimmer of hope. Also in Smart Manager even with a tripped Knox the Device Security says "Secure" with "No unauthorized system changes detected". So we'll have to just wait and see when it is actually released.
If all else fails and it needs an un-tripped Knox I'll just claim my LED flash always on issue others have been having and get a fresh phone from TMO.

so unroot it even with knox trip will make samsung wallet works rite ?
fair enough

What's unclear is if unrooting with Knox tripped will restore Samsung Pay functionality.

Its ok I dont need it

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Its ok I dont need it
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This.
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Google wallet works fine when you are rooted (or at least used to the last time i bothered to root my device)
What benefit would there be over google wallet with samsung pay?

Samsung Pay is kind of unusable here in the Netherlands. The magnetic stripe was phased out in 2011. Every newly ordered bank card has NFC but not many stores have NFC yet.
So root away.

I know there were a few apps that I had back in the day, that would make an app not see root, even if your phone was rooted, for example, Google pay had a problem for a bit, and after that app, I know it was fixed. I am sure someone will find a work around, they always do!
I am waiting a bit longer for TowelRoot of some kind. all I want is root, not much else. Though it would be nice to get some Lollipop features that Samsung yanks out .

eatonjb said:
I know there were a few apps that I had back in the day, that would make an app not see root, even if your phone was rooted, for example, Google pay had a problem for a bit, and after that app, I know it was fixed. I am sure someone will find a work around, they always do!
I am waiting a bit longer for TowelRoot of some kind. all I want is root, not much else. Though it would be nice to get some Lollipop features that Samsung yanks out .
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All hopes on towelroot now....

I'm failing to see how this is confirmation (Maybe I've misread it which is possible ), It seems to me that this is no more than a post on a site with no proof, source etc. maybe this guy knows a guy who knows a guy who works at Samsung in some capacity, I'll wait until it's stated by Samsung that rooting will remove the devices capacity to use the service regardless of unrooting afterwards.
If this does turn out to be true i.e. if Samsung does clearly state that the service is unusable after rooting (and still unusable even after unrooting) then this would be imo kind of funny because a jailbroken iPhone can use Apple pay but a rooted (which is far more the norm on android vs jailbroken on iOS) Galaxy S6 can't.

razor 116 said:
I'm failing to see how this is confirmation (Maybe I've misread it which is possible ), It seems to me that this is no more than a post on a site with no proof, source etc. maybe this guy knows a guy who knows a guy who works at Samsung in some capacity, I'll wait until it's stated by Samsung that rooting will remove the devices capacity to use the service regardless of unrooting afterwards.
If this does turn out to be true i.e. if Samsung does clearly state that the service is unusable after rooting (and still unusable even after unrooting) then this would be imo kind of funny because a jailbroken iPhone can use Apple pay but a rooted (which is far more the norm on android vs jailbroken on iOS) Galaxy S6 can't.
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Sammobile has inside sources at Samsung and rarely gets this stuff wrong. Other Android websites are treating this as news and not rumor for that reason. If they are saying that root breaks Samsung Pay, then you can be 99% sure it does.