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Is it possible to turn off OTA updates? If so, how?
Thanks.
Falen said:
Is it possible to turn off OTA updates? If so, how?
Thanks.
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Sorry, but why would you want to turn it off?
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kattara said:
Sorry, but why would you want to turn it off?
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I would like to decide when and if I want to update instead of constantly getting reminders.
Falen said:
I would like to decide when and if I want to update instead of constantly getting reminders.
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Ah ok. Sorry, I don't know the answer to your question. I was just wondering why you'd wanna turn it off. It's probably under Settings/About phone or something.
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If you root, you can freeze the updater. I don't know any other way.
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just lou said:
If you root, you can freeze the updater. I don't know any other way.
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The updater being DMClient right?
One thing to keep an eye on (I plan to disable OTA's on my two tablets) is battery life.
There are supposedly some instances where the system may think the OTA update is corrupt and will continuously try to re-download it in the bg affecting battery life. It's still worth attempting IMHO, just a tip though to keep an eye on your battery, if disabling the OTA affects it for you, you could unfreeze the dmclient service and use a different workaround to stop the OTAs
-For freezing, after looking around, these three apps seem to be best suited - Titanium Backup pro (obviously), AntTek & Gemini App managers (free)
I'll be Rooting then freezing OTAs on my Prime (ww .15) and rebooting it to ensure it doesn't softbrick. If unsuccessful I can flash a blob/format no probs, if successful, I'll root my Nxs7 JB, rinse repeat and report back
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Successfully performed all tasks on the Prime (hooray no OTAs!!), it's rooted with frozen DMClient, no firmware download prompts since the service was stopped and frozen.
I have rebooted a few times to ensure it is not soft bricked and the App remains frozen
I will be doing my Nexus next since I do not foresee any brick issues, all I need to do is simply look into rooting it.
edit: seeing the several methods all require unlocking to exploit root capability, I'm going to wait out my DOA period (since Ive only had this tablet for 2 days lol) before I unlock the bootloader.
The methods discussed though work perfect for ICS, if you've unlocked and root then turning OTA's off is a sinch, with very minimal risk of a softbrick IMO
Thanks, I will try freezing with TB.
qwertylesh said:
The updater being DMClient right?
One thing to keep an eye on (I plan to disable OTA's on my two tablets) is battery life.
There are supposedly some instances where the system may think the OTA update is corrupt and will continuously try to re-download it in the bg affecting battery life. It's still worth attempting IMHO, just a tip though to keep an eye on your battery, if disabling the OTA affects it for you, you could unfreeze the dmclient service and use a different workaround to stop the OTAs
-For freezing, after looking around, these three apps seem to be best suited - Titanium Backup pro (obviously), AntTek & Gemini App managers (free)
I'll be Rooting then freezing OTAs on my Prime (ww .15) and rebooting it to ensure it doesn't softbrick. If unsuccessful I can flash a blob/format no probs, if successful, I'll root my Nxs7 JB, rinse repeat and report back
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Successfully performed all tasks on the Prime (hooray no OTAs!!), it's rooted with frozen DMClient, no firmware download prompts since the service was stopped and frozen.
I have rebooted a few times to ensure it is not soft bricked and the App remains frozen
I will be doing my Nexus next since I do not foresee any brick issues, all I need to do is simply look into rooting it.
edit: seeing the several methods all require unlocking to exploit root capability, I'm going to wait out my DOA period (since Ive only had this tablet for 2 days lol) before I unlock the bootloader.
The methods discussed though work perfect for ICS, if you've unlocked and root then turning OTA's off is a sinch, with very minimal risk of a softbrick IMO
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Just to let you know, everything's going awesome with my Prime, initially when I downgraded it, the OTA tried to download (i stopped it at 66 percent) and I just kept the wifi off while I rooted and disabled DMClient.
The bonus of freezing the process/service is when another update occurs ours should continue to block the FOTA, some other methods like modifying the build prop only work until a new update is out.
I'll definitely be unlocking and rooting my nexus to stop ota's
qwertylesh said:
Just to let you know, everything's going awesome with my Prime, initially when I downgraded it, the OTA tried to download (i stopped it at 66 percent) and I just kept the wifi off while I rooted and disabled DMClient.
The bonus of freezing the process/service is when another update occurs ours should continue to block the FOTA, some other methods like modifying the build prop only work until a new update is out.
I'll definitely be unlocking and rooting my nexus to stop ota's
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I finally have a minute to try to freeze the update with TB but I do not see a DMClient. Am I missing something here? I not sure which one(s) of the system apps to freeze.
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If you root, you can freeze the updater. I don't know any other way.
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And what would that file be? Where is it located?
Disable using autostarts works...
I had my nexus 7 nagging me constantly to update too... rooted and heavily customized stock rom, different kernel, a lot of system files I altered... I really am not overly concerned about doing an update that might screw with any one of those components and having to go through the whole process of getting it where I want again.
I couldn't find this DMClient you guys are speaking of.
Here's how I did it:
Install Autostarts app.
Go to "After Startup"
Scroll down until you see "Google Services Framework"
There should be several of them. For me it was the third one. Touch it and read the bottom of the popup to find out. It will say "Receiver com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService.....(you get the point)
Disable it. Done...
I don't know if there are any other repercussions to disabling this.. I just know it's not nagging me, and everything works still.
DMclient is a service, it's the most ideal thing to freeze since when stopped the OS will not even attempt to check of OTAs or attempt to download anything, plus it does not modify the OS in any significant way (i.e, editing build.props) so you can undo it with ease if you want. All you need is Root to be able to freeze the service.
I'm not arguing about how to do it... I just couldn't find dmclient , as one of the others stated as well. Just sharing what worked for me.
I don't know if it matters, but it's stock jb 4.1.1 on the nexus 7. If somebody knows where I can locate this dmclient in it, I'd probably feel better about doing that as well. Don't like the idea of it downloading or doing anything in the background if I don't need it to. I'm rather anal about background processes.. at least I have been in my other OS's so far... getting more familiar with the innards of android now... lol
Are we sure it's in this version? I don't even see it in ps in terminal. Unless the process I disabled with autostarts stopped it.
I might enable it again tomorrow and reboot and check ps again.
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You're right, I checked my nexus 4.1.2 and the service isn't there, the All area doesnt show everything but even using apps that show all apps/services it doesnt show up. :/
I checked my TF Prime which is 4.1.1 now (sigs outdated) and the service is there, it mustn't exist in AOSP builds or something
It seems as if Google has done a lot of little different things to the OS on the nexus 7. Some of the system components I've messed with relating to sound don't have any effect... I think they left some files in place but are utilizing something different for configuration of sound.
I see every mobile OS now is taking proprietary steps... I still gotta stick with Google though, because they are so heavily involved in the open source community and do a great deal to help the development community.
Next tablet is going to have top have more options for me... better usb support, hdmi out.. the ability to use a headset with Mic connection.. sd card... I am, however, extremely happy with my nexus 7 purchase. For the price and the performance.. can't go wrong there. They are practically giving away the 8 gb models.. barely more than cost of construction. The 16 gb ones aren't exactly a ripoff either..
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My nexus 7 rooted , don't have this service DMClient , doesn´t show in the titanium backup ... any one have another suggestion ? because this constant notice to actualize the firmware , is very inconvenience .
Thanks in advance
davieslacker said:
I had my nexus 7 nagging me constantly to update too... rooted and heavily customized stock rom, different kernel, a lot of system files I altered... I really am not overly concerned about doing an update that might screw with any one of those components and having to go through the whole process of getting it where I want again.
I couldn't find this DMClient you guys are speaking of.
Here's how I did it:
Install Autostarts app.
Go to "After Startup"
Scroll down until you see "Google Services Framework"
There should be several of them. For me it was the third one. Touch it and read the bottom of the popup to find out. It will say "Receiver com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService.....(you get the point)
Disable it. Done...
I don't know if there are any other repercussions to disabling this.. I just know it's not nagging me, and everything works still.
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davieslacker posted it like 3 posts above yours....follow that method..and read previous posts before asking an already answered question..especially when it was JUST answered
escalhavardo said:
My nexus 7 rooted , don't have this service DMClient , doesn´t show in the titanium backup ... any one have another suggestion ? because this constant notice to actualize the firmware , is very inconvenience .
Thanks in advance
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That solution uses a paid app. Any free solution?
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frank35 said:
That solution uses a paid app. Any free solution?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autorun
Same features,free app
Enable show system apps in settings
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harpocrates said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autorun
Same features,free app
Enable show system apps in settings
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I used this and it stopped the nag, but for some reason, it removes my email app (standard nexus 7 app) it says app not installed . Luckily. I had a titanium backup of it , but putting it back would not work. I reenabled the service, and put the app back and all is well now, but obviously the nag is back. Any ideas?
There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!
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There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!
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I know that feel bro
*insert hug meme*
irzero said:
There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!
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There are some apps out there that will temp unroot your phone so apps like that will work. then you just restore it(OTA rootkeeper allows this). Also I think Siyah kernel supports temp unrooting
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There are some apps out there that will temp unroot your phone so apps like that will work. then you just restore it(OTA rootkeeper allows this). Also I think Siyah kernel supports temp unrooting
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Siyah kernel does support temp unrooting, but somehow Sky Go still knows your phone is rooted, and it won't work. So far from the reading I have done there is no solution to this other than to flash back to a stock unrooted firmware.
I don't think it will become the rule on android, because there are to many apps that even need root, but at ios, probably because jailbreak is the only possibility to get, at least partially, out of their ecosystem.
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someone found a work around for the Barclays banking app I think...I'm sure it was here in general so you may find some hints there
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here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823649
[HOW TO] Barclays Mobile Banking working on rooted S3
As far as I know. Sky Go has gotten around everything so far.
I see not to far in the future a situation where you have to either root and lose lots of apps you use or lose the root lose lots of apps you use.
That's a crap situation for sure
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Sky have invested a heck of a lot of time and money to making the latest Sky Go apps very very hard to hack!
They now do a lot of checking on their severs which makes it impossible for us to hack around.
I am sorry but I don't think we will ever get sky go working properly with root, and as soon as we did sky would update the app to fix the loophole.
Google won't do anything because rooted android isn't standard android. The android platform isn't built like windows or OS X, where the default is the user having root available.
Therefore security (DRM in particular) on those platforms is built with that in mind. Android isn't.
Also, while you might have the best of intentions there are plenty of root-users who would use it to copy content offline, trick it into thinking you have a subscription whe you don't etc.
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Lennyuk said:
Sky have invested a heck of a lot of time and money to making the latest Sky Go apps very very hard to hack!
They now do a lot of checking on their severs which makes it impossible for us to hack around.
I am sorry but I don't think we will ever get sky go working properly with root, and as soon as we did sky would update the app to fix the loophole.
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This sux for sure.
On iPad they sandboxed the app in its own virtual environment. could this trick it into think its running on unrooted firmware?
I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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Google won't do anything because rooted android isn't standard android. The android platform isn't built like windows or OS X, where the default is the user having root available.
Therefore security (DRM in particular) on those platforms is built with that in mind. Android isn't.
Also, while you might have the best of intentions there are plenty of root-users who would use it to copy content offline, trick it into thinking you have a subscription whe you don't etc.
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You cant get the content without a subscription anyway, the problem has been people UDID spoofing and getting more active devices than they are allowed. Its a joke that they limit this anyway they should just make it so you can only be logged in on 2 devices at any one time using traditional methods like IP address and IMEI
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I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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temporary unroot doesnt even work so i dont know how it works personally. Out of my depth on this
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I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!
Lennyuk said:
The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!
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Why would that stop wifi tablets? it works on my iPad wifi only?
irzero said:
Why would that stop wifi tablets? it works on my iPad wifi only?
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the Apple skygo app works differently, it doesn't check for IMEI.
wifi-only android tablets do not have IMEI numbers so it will always fail this check
Lennyuk said:
The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!
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How in earth does this user space application have the ability to check custom recovery? I suppose kernel might be easy, but recovery??
Still, there must be ways around it.
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How in earth does this user space application have the ability to check custom recovery? I suppose kernel might be easy, but recovery??
Still, there must be ways around it.
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Thats the thing, we (me and two others who worked on hacking this app) couldn't work it out! But it definitely was detecting it, we tried it on Samsung and HTC devices with no root and stock kernel but with a custom recovery and sky go stopped worked, change back to stock recovery and the app works again but we could not find any code that checked it.
On most devices to get it to work you need a stock based rom, stock recovery (unless recovery is part of kernel like S2) stock based kernel (ro.secure=1 must be set!) no or hidden root. You then need to make sure you fit the device or version checks, if you don't you need a hacked app that allows you to do this.
However the latest sky go apps do a sever side check for the apps signature (so you cannot decompile and recompile without changing this). So basically we can no longer do even the most basic of hacks.
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Thats the thing, we (me and two others who worked on hacking this app) couldn't work it out! But it definitely was detecting it, we tried it on Samsung and HTC devices with no root and stock kernel but with a custom recovery and sky go stopped worked, change back to stock recovery and the app works again but we could not find any code that checked it.
On most devices to get it to work you need a stock based rom, stock recovery (unless recovery is part of kernel like S2) stock based kernel (ro.secure=1 must be set!) no or hidden root. You then need to make sure you fit the device or version checks, if you don't you need a hacked app that allows you to do this.
However the latest sky go apps do a sever side check for the apps signature (so you cannot decompile and recompile without changing this). So basically we can no longer do even the most basic of hacks.
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Surely you can modify it to spoof the signature the app uses to send to the server...
They really have gone all out eh.
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Well done sky, you bastards!
I have a Nexus 7 2012 WiFi only so ytheres no chance of using it on there :'(
Thanks LennyUK
Please tell me there's a way to revert if I'm stock? Or if I need to root i will since the Google idiots have f'ed up my perfect tablet, im pissed off, these morons did not even test this crap first! Thanks
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4.2. Is a flop as far as I'm concerned..
Download factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Then use this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Be mindful to make sure filenames are correct .(this is an older guide.)
If you want to save your data, back it up onto computer(this erases everything)
taqulic said:
4.2. Is a flop as far as I'm concerned..
Download factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Then use this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Be mindful to make sure filenames are correct .(this is an older guide.)
If you want to save your data, back it up onto computer(this erases everything)
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Or you can use Nexus 7 toolkit to download and flash back to stock with one step
tbh, grab WUG's nexus toolkit.
click the great "revert to stock" button
select stock nakasi 4.1.2
blah blah blah
once back and running, relock bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
back running stock 4.1.2
????
profit
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jt.one said:
tbh, grab WUG's nexus toolkit.
click the great "revert to stock" button
select stock nakasi 4.1.2
blah blah blah
once back and running, relock bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
back running stock 4.1.2
????
profit
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Huh? Lol I got the program but your directions are scary lol im a noob lol go easy on me but the line with? Marks leaves a lot to the imagination
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I downloaded the wug toolkit but how do you install it? It only gives me options to open as picture, audio, text an so on with es file explorer.
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LoL ha ha ha ha dude I am tripping over this cuz I to have a total stock N7 and I waited for the update OTA and then downloaded it and I absolutely have NO PROBLEMS with 4.2 so I guess my question is how did he download it was it from GOOGLE OTA or from someone who posted a zip just curious GOD BLESS YOU GUYS
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Pandemonium2k4 said:
Please tell me there's a way to revert if I'm stock? Or if I need to root i will since the Google idiots have f'ed up my perfect tablet, im pissed off, these morons did not even test this crap first! Thanks
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I'm curious if you are stock and didn't lose tablet mode or anything like that what you find so horrible about about 4.2?
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I have to agree this update should not have been released, I'm stock on the nexus 7 and its so buggy! It keeps stuttering, taken ages to load webpages , all that project butter has gone, not happy, funny enough it's perfect on my galaxy nexus which is running 4.2 stock rooted, BTW I got the update ota
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To add to this, I've just tried to set up a second user and the setup crashed once , gave me a blank screen for 10 seconds every time I pressed next, then the launcher crashed twice , gave me a blank screen for over a minute, stuttering when swiping side to side, even now as I type this its not registering a click then I click again and I get two letters ..... And pinch zoom is jerky! Wtf happened?!?! Hope there's a fix on the way, this is the one device I'm reluctant to root and install custom ROM simply because 4.1 was perfect
Guys just download nexus 7 toolkit and flash 4.1 image... Sorry, but even me (girl) was able to do this succesfully.
Lmfao ok ok you guys win haha but i am stock and it was official update. Im good on pcs but this is my first tablet, android is new to me anyway im on pain pills for broken leg from a motorcycle accident so my head is definitely not all there lately but ya lets hear the jokes about that now. And no that pervert in my pic is not me, although it fits my brain power lately lol
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Thanks for your reasoned response. I'm sure people will try to help you if you keep the tone more conciliatory. Could you be more specific about what has ruined your experience with the update? I honestly don't see that much different, other than having to wait a few days for devs to update borked apps. Stickmount is my biggest concern, and some of the video players. They'll get updated though. Hang in there and if you decide to go back, the Nexus Root Kit threads and WUGS toolkit thread at Android Forums can get you there if you carefully read the detailed instructions.
Groid said:
Thanks for your reasoned response. I'm sure people will try to help you if you keep the tone more conciliatory. Could you be more specific about what has ruined your experience with the update? I honestly don't see that much different, other than having to wait a few days for devs to update borked apps. Stickmount is my biggest concern, and some of the video players. They'll get updated though. Hang in there and if you decide to go back, the Nexus Root Kit threads and WUGS toolkit thread at Android Forums can get you there if you carefully read the detailed instructions.
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The dev for stickymount says it may not be solvable, Multi-user by default is a nightmare.
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Pandemonium2k4 said:
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Yeah i noticed after updating that some of my apps that reinstalled after the update would crash when i tried opening them for the 1st time. i unistalled then reinstalled them and they worked fine after that. i too am not really liking the update hopefully i can find a way to revert back to 4.1.2 easily or theres some work arounds (especially for stick mount as mentioned earlier)
All this talk about apps not working is not on the new OS....well it kinda is but not really.
android releases the OS and DEVS have to update their apps to work with the new OS. they do this with the android SDK (i think) IMO, google SHOULD release the SDK for the new OS about a month out. giving Devs the option to update their apps before the OS hits getting rid of all "these" types of posts.
also, FWIW, i did a clean install of 4.2 and i haven't had a singe app crash on me except MX player (which was updated yesterday for 4.2) other than that, everything is smooth, fast, working wonderfully. i know its not what you want to hear, but maybe a clean wipe of the device would be best. Google wont put out a crappy update....but sometimes, for some reasons unknown, it doesn't take well to and update with all the user apps and their data. at the very lease, clear cache and see how it works.
turdbogls said:
All this talk about apps not working is not on the new OS....well it kinda is but not really.
android releases the OS and DEVS have to update their apps to work with the new OS. they do this with the android SDK (i think) IMO, google SHOULD release the SDK for the new OS about a month out. giving Devs the option to update their apps before the OS hits getting rid of all "these" types of posts.
also, FWIW, i did a clean install of 4.2 and i haven't had a singe app crash on me except MX player (which was updated yesterday for 4.2) other than that, everything is smooth, fast, working wonderfully. i know its not what you want to hear, but maybe a clean wipe of the device would be best. Google wont put out a crappy update....but sometimes, for some reasons unknown, it doesn't take well to and update with all the user apps and their data. at the very lease, clear cache and see how it works.
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Completely agree. They new update 4.2 corrected a lot of bugs. The power management is a lot better and the memory management too. Ive run some test and saw that the system load is quite inferior to what it was before due to a more clean management process
Use Mskips toolkit. Option 9 lets you download the 4.1.2 stock image. Easy peasy
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TokenAntiAppleRant said:
Use Mskips toolkit. Option 9 lets you download the 4.1.2 stock image. Easy peasy
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Look how easy this was when a decent person helps, thanks for the help! All rooted and flashed back! Thanks to all who actually helped!
First I wanna ask anyone who says the 4.2 update is terrible if they even tried a full data wipe/factory reset? If not, try that before accusing Google of releasing buggy firmware. It could be your stinkin data/apps fault
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Look how easy this was when a decent person helps, thanks for the help! All rooted and flashed back! Thanks to all who actually helped!
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Most to all the people were decent. Plenty of people pointed you in the right direction, or linked to a guide. You gotta do a little researching and educate yourself a little so you understand the whole process.
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I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Nope, it's not illegal to root.. it will supposedly be illegal to unlock a phone (for another network) without the network's consent though.
Just think..there's no reason at all running custom firmware/roms/rooting can be illegal on a nexus device, why do you think the bootloader is effortlessly unlockable?
And if you think about it, no, it's not really crazy that is a "hassle" to revert to old firmware, because
A) most devices (Apple comes to mind) you can't do this, unless certain conditions apply (if you backed up SHSH blobs, etc etc)
B) if you understood the process of flashing the stock rom, and if you had ADB/fastboot setup correctly, it's simple as pie to flash the old firmware. And the "homemade software" is just an interface for n00bs (like yourself) and would not exist if it didn't use adb and fastboot behind the hood. And if you think it was hard to do what you did, you should try to do it on a device with a locked bootloader: (droid x2 comes to mind) it's a nightmare
So basically, Google has this wonderful OS and provides devs and users alike these wonderful tools (and Nexus hardware to match) at our disposable.
Idk about you, but I say kudos Google!
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Stopped by the ATT store yesterday afternoon and got so close to pulling the trigger. Then I remembered that for ~$150 less, I was able to get the 64GB SM-P900 model with the free keyboard offer from Best Buy.
I personally like the idea of being able to use my tablet on the go, but $899 for this 32GB LTE model seems rather steep.
Regardless, I'm still on the edge of picking up this ATT variant and was curious if anyone had done so already or considering the same.
I'm definitely all ears on the pros and cons and would also like to get some feedback with regards to performance, battery life, and firmware updates. I figure that real world performance is negligible between the wifi and lte model, but would like to hear from those that got to use both models.
Thanks in advance.
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I read in another thread that the keyboard deal ended May 29th. I'm curious about the AT&T one myself.
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I've seen at least one person that's picked up the AT&T model and hoping to hear from him on his experience.
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I picked my AT&T note pro the day it was released (last Friday), and so far I absolutely love it. I have had the Note 10.1 for quiet some time and was a little skeptical about spending $900 just to upgrade. But after just a few days with it I am very glad I "pulled the trigger". The screen resolution is amazing, even compared to the Note 10.1 The speed seems a lot quicker as well, even without root and debloating. As far as battery life I getting around 10-12 hrs of screen time, that's a combination of WiFi and LTE. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the feedback on your experience with the AT&T model of this beast of a tab. I actually picked up the US 64GB version of the P900 use it with a mobile hotspot device and it's been working well for me so far. Still, I'd much rathet not carry around a mobile hotspot just to get online. I just wished they released a 64GB LTE model.
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Thanks for the feedback on your experience with the AT&T model of this beast of a tab. I actually picked up the US 64GB version of the P900 use it with a mobile hotspot device and it's been working well for me so far. Still, I'd much rathet not carry around a mobile hotspot just to get online. I just wished they released a 64GB LTE model.
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I'm doing the same only with a 32gb model. Choice for me came down to root, at which point it was a no-brainer . . wifi version had it, US carrier versions didn't and I didn't want to risk slower development times for them.
From the looks of it there isn't much development for the wifi version either.
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True, to be honest though with root I've already done enough to my tablet to not worry about custom ROM's for now. Still hoping for a slimmer rom to be developed but I probably won't jump on it right away.
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True, to be honest though with root I've already done enough to my tablet to not worry about custom ROM's for now. Still hoping for a slimmer rom to be developed but I probably won't jump on it right away.
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What have you done to your note since rooting? This is the first device I've owned that doesn't have any ROMs available. Not sure what do with it when I take it out of the box...usually it's a quick dead pixel check, then goodbye stock.
Looking forward to this device and xda community!
Got overnight shipping on my Note Pro, can't wait to get it tomorrow
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What have you done to your note since rooting? This is the first device I've owned that doesn't have any ROMs available. Not sure what do with it when I take it out of the box...usually it's a quick dead pixel check, then goodbye stock.
Looking forward to this device and xda community!
Got overnight shipping on my Note Pro, can't wait to get it tomorrow
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Currently running Pie Controls and GMD Gesture Control to assist in application switching and other quick shortcuts. Not sure if I'll keep both I'm relying on Pie Controls more.
With Titanium Backup I've frozen a bunch of applications including Allshare, ANT applications (3 of them), samsung's backup app, Blurb Checkout, Business Week, Cisco Webex, E-Meeting, ELM Agent, Facebook (I use the web page), FWUpgrade, Gallery (I use Gallery KK), Play Newstand, KLMS Agent, Magazine Widget, Music (I use Google Play Music), My Magazine (I use Nova Launcher, the stock launcher sucks), Netflix, NY Times, Pagebuddy Service, Remote Controls and Remote PC app, Samsung Push Service, Scrapbook (no intention of using it), SideSync (dont have other samsung phones), Software Update, Weather and Briefing.
Freezing those applications keeps them from loading even as cached apps freeing up space in RAM to cache other apps that i frequently use.
In addition I uninstalled all Knox related apps.
For other mods I'm using Xposed Installer to do things like per application DPI settings to render things in smaller fonts, block ads, disable nag screens (location consent, modify share menus, modify complete action windows etc.), control what starts at boot (boot manager) as well as a few other tweaks.
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Currently running Pie Controls and GMD Gesture Control to assist in application switching and other quick shortcuts. Not sure if I'll keep both I'm relying on Pie Controls more.
With Titanium Backup I've frozen a bunch of applications including Allshare, ANT applications (3 of them), samsung's backup app, Blurb Checkout, Business Week, Cisco Webex, E-Meeting, ELM Agent, Facebook (I use the web page), FWUpgrade, Gallery (I use Gallery KK), Play Newstand, KLMS Agent, Magazine Widget, Music (I use Google Play Music), My Magazine (I use Nova Launcher, the stock launcher sucks), Netflix, NY Times, Pagebuddy Service, Remote Controls and Remote PC app, Samsung Push Service, Scrapbook (no intention of using it), SideSync (dont have other samsung phones), Software Update, Weather and Briefing.
Freezing those applications keeps them from loading even as cached apps freeing up space in RAM to cache other apps that i frequently use.
In addition I uninstalled all Knox related apps.
For other mods I'm using Xposed Installer to do things like per application DPI settings to render things in smaller fonts, block ads, disable nag screens (location consent, modify share menus, modify complete action windows etc.), control what starts at boot (boot manager) as well as a few other tweaks.
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Cool, thanks for the info. Did you use towelroot, and what ver of the note pro do you have?
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Cool, thanks for the info. Did you use towelroot, and what ver of the note pro do you have?
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SM-P900 Wifi, 32GB and no I had used CF Autoroot which was the only available method at the time.
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SM-P900 Wifi, 32GB and no I had used CF Autoroot which was the only available method at the time.
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Got it, thanks!
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Cool, thanks for the info. Did you use towelroot, and what ver of the note pro do you have?
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So far two of us have tired the towelroot in the other thread on the P900 with no success. It seems to be working though on the P905.
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So far two of us have tired the towelroot in the other thread on the P900 with no success. It seems to be working though on the P905.
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But no harm was done if towelroot failed? I might give it a go when I get home from work tonite. Just got my Note in the mail on my lunchbreak, wooohooo!
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But no harm was done if towelroot failed? I might give it a go when I get home from work tonite. Just got my Note in the mail on my lunchbreak, wooohooo!
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It seems to have literally just failed to do anything for me. No root, no trigger, it's like I never ran it.
Towel root Def works... I used it, the issue I had was with super user... don't download it from the playstore. Geohot is the man
Any tips on rooting the SM-P907A with Android 5.1.1?
Plus installing custom ROMs?
nyxee said:
Any tips on rooting the SM-P907A with Android 5.1.1?
Plus installing custom ROMs?
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Also hoping for this.
No custom ROMs and no root for Lollipop on the 907A... I ended up going back to KitKat so I could have root and Xposed.
Seems after getting the Note 4 I have found my self wondering how I was ever with out root. Its crazy I cant stand this phone with out root. Its maddening to know I have Ads and apps I don't need. If Verizon didn't offer this phone at Christmas for 150.00 I would have never got it. #1 Reason no root was out yet but I took a chance. I know now or always have that you DEVS work hard to get stuff done. This was just a big ....
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK!
Root will be out soon. I had no patience and switched to the Dev edition. I HATE ads and clustered samsung status bar with passion...
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Seems after getting the Note 4 I have found my self wondering how I was ever with out root. Its crazy I cant stand this phone with out root. Its maddening to know I have Ads and apps I don't need. If Verizon didn't offer this phone at Christmas for 150.00 I would have never got it. #1 Reason no root was out yet but I took a chance. I know now or always have that you DEVS work hard to get stuff done. This was just a big ....
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Articulated very nicely. I too long for Root and full control of my phone restored in my hands.
Op is the one who has joined XDA since 2011 and more than 400+ thanks (out of 500+ posts ) Posted this in the wrong forum accidentally or didn't know this is development forum
This is exactly why I sold my Verizon n4 and got a nexus 6. I have never had a phone without root. It was driving me nuts as well. I love the phone but couldn't deal with no root. I check back periodically to see if root has been achieved. Maybe one day I will have a n4 again.
Meh... You can disable the bloat with the stock app manager... Yeah, not 100%, but I am not gonna obsess about 4 or 5 tiny apps or services running in the background that I don't see or notice anyway... I am not that much of a control freak... It's a phone, not the center of my universe that I feel compelled to bend 100% to my will.. hehe
Root would be nice I guess, but on these newer phones, the appeal is less and less. I can skin it however I want with dozens of launchers, and debloating a few extra apps with root won't make it any faster...
By the time root comes out, the devs will have moved on to newer phones so the ROM support will suck anyway...
It's unfortunate. I would love to have root access on this phone for various reasons . My next phone will have it, even if I have to leave Verizon.
Sadly, the Verizon Note 4 is never going to see it...at least not before the next round of Note flagships
First post, just got a note 4. Had a rooted lg g2 before it. I'm loving the note so far (only had it about a week), but I use limelight to play computer games on my phone and it doesn't support mouse input very well without root access. . . As has been said I've disabled most of the bloat, but it would be nice to be able to just get rid of it. Also Sixaxis controller requires root to pair a ps3 or 4 controller to my phone... I hope root comes soon, maybe I should become a developer to help the cause. I too thank you for all your work.
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Meh... You can disable the bloat with the stock app manager... Yeah, not 100%, but I am not gonna obsess about 4 or 5 tiny apps or services running in the background that I don't see or notice anyway... I am not that much of a control freak... It's a phone, not the center of my universe that I feel compelled to bend 100% to my will.. hehe
Root would be nice I guess, but on these newer phones, the appeal is less and less. I can skin it however I want with dozens of launchers, and debloating a few extra apps with root won't make it any faster...
By the time root comes out, the devs will have moved on to newer phones so the ROM support will suck anyway...
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You can disable any app you want using adb shell.
This issue around root has been interesting for me. For awhile, I was like you, OP and many others who feel they must have root. However, after about 5 weeks of use now, I find myself perfectly happy with the Note 4 just the way it is and I wonder if I'll even take root-ability into consideration when making my next phone purchase.
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You can disable any app you want using adb shell.
This issue around root has been interesting for me. For awhile, I was like you, OP and many others who feel they must have root. However, after about 5 weeks of use now, I find myself perfectly happy with the Note 4 just the way it is and I wonder if I'll even take root-ability into consideration when making my next phone purchase.
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I am with you. Root used to be mandatory IMHO, as phone makers just didn't seem to be able to get the phone's to work properly out of the box... slow, clunky, missing things, instability, outdated software, etc...
Nowadays, I just don't see that. Typically it is the ROMs that are unstable, miss features, etc... I see thread after thread of this great new ROM! But the camera is flunky, doesn't have data, or the IR blaster doesn't work, etc...
I had an LG G2 and the ROMs didn't impress me much. Went to a GS5 and was even less impressed. None of the ones that I tried were measurably faster than stock, none were 100% functional, or if they were, they were just tweaked stock ROMs and so what's the point? Risk warranty issues or bricking it, or not able to get OTA's, for what? Just to be able to brag to my nerd friends that I had a transparent status bar because a regular one bothers me SOOOO SOOOO much? LOL
The Note 4, is amazing. Debloat it with ADB or with the app manager, install your favorite launcher and icon pack to get the look and feel that you want, and know that it will work 100%, it's fast, stable and no warranty issues, no being left out when Lollipop drops and you want it but it breaks root again so you have to stick with the old software, etc...
I'm with you guys. I come from a Nexus4 and still have a Nexus7. I miss root for Titanium backup and that's about it. Sure I'm going to once it drops but the note is a very capable device able to stand on its own.
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Meh... You can disable the bloat with the stock app manager... Yeah, not 100%, but I am not gonna obsess about 4 or 5 tiny apps or services running in the background that I don't see or notice anyway... I am not that much of a control freak... It's a phone, not the center of my universe that I feel compelled to bend 100% to my will.. hehe
Root would be nice I guess, but on these newer phones, the appeal is less and less. I can skin it however I want with dozens of launchers, and debloating a few extra apps with root won't make it any faster...
By the time root comes out, the devs will have moved on to newer phones so the ROM support will suck anyway...
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4 or 5 apps? You must be oblivious to the hundreds of services and dozens of apps that are running on your phone. Don't forget about hundreds of intents that must all be doing something in your favor.
Big Red just wants your phone to run smooth and they want your battery life to be even more fabulous.
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4 or 5 apps? You must be oblivious to the hundreds of services and dozens of apps that are running on your phone. Don't forget about hundreds of intents that must all be doing something in your favor.
Big Red just wants your phone to run smooth and they want your battery life to be even more fabulous.
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4 or 5 apps? You must be oblivious to the hundreds of services and dozens of apps that are running on your phone. Don't forget about hundreds of intents that must all be doing something in your favor.
Big Red just wants your phone to run smooth and they want your battery life to be even more fabulous.
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You can disable most of the things in the app manager. There are only a few that you can't, but then you can do that with ADB. Either way, you can debloat the phone, without root, and without risk of messing up your warranty or the ability to get the Lollipop OTA in a few weeks.
Also, a lot of reviews have shown that disabling everything under the sun to free up RAM, can actually slow your phone down, not speed it up.
Getting the true crap disabled, is the biggest thing and anyone can do that without root today.
It doesn't have to be the center of someone's Universe for them to enjoy changing it and making it their own, people do this will all types of things. Some would call it a "hobby" or an interest. Lots of people enjoy spending hours on Facebook or playing video games, others enjoy tinkering with their devices.
I went for a while with a retail Note 4 and ended up getting a DE. There are too many things that I missed, here are some of them:
Add WiFi HotSpot Toggle and Bypass Subscription Check
Add Flashlight Toggle
AdAway
Titanium Backup
Viper4Android
Root Explorer
Xposed Framework with the following modules:
-Youtube AdAway
-Play Store Link In App Info
-Wanam
-Swype Keyboard Tweaks
-Notify Clean (Clean notification area)
-No Map Tips (Disable Google Play Maps location accuracy tips)
-Google Play Music Listen Later (Change the default Google Play Music pane and tabs)
-Disable Clear Defaults Dialog
Chrome Pie (Add Pie control to Chrome)
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Meh... You can disable the bloat with the stock app manager... Yeah, not 100%, but I am not gonna obsess about 4 or 5 tiny apps or services running in the background that I don't see or notice anyway... I am not that much of a control freak... It's a phone, not the center of my universe that I feel compelled to bend 100% to my will.. hehe
Root would be nice I guess, but on these newer phones, the appeal is less and less. I can skin it however I want with dozens of launchers, and debloating a few extra apps with root won't make it any faster...
By the time root comes out, the devs will have moved on to newer phones so the ROM support will suck anyway...
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And whats even better you can block every single possible app with adb !
Until we get root its live able without it.
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You can disable most of the things in the app manager. There are only a few that you can't, but then you can do that with ADB. Either way, you can debloat the phone, without root, and without risk of messing up your warranty or the ability to get the Lollipop OTA in a few weeks.
Also, a lot of reviews have shown that disabling everything under the sun to free up RAM, can actually slow your phone down, not speed it up.
Getting the true crap disabled, is the biggest thing and anyone can do that without root today.
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like I said, oblivious
The Note 4 is so sick the way it is! Do I wish we had root? Check. Do I wish we had unlocked bootloader? Check. Am I gonna give up on THE best phone out right now because I don't have those things? Hell NO! The phone is a beast! And I'll keep waiting, maybe for nothing....... but if it is for nothing, I'll live. Love the Note 4! And sticking with it no matter what.
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The Note 4 is so sick the way it is! Do I wish we had root? Check. Do I wish we had unlocked bootloader? Check. Am I gonna give up on THE best phone out right now because I don't have those things? Hell NO! The phone is a beast! And I'll keep waiting, maybe for nothing....... but if it is for nothing, I'll live. Love the Note 4! And sticking with it no matter what.
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Phone sucks without root. Seems like you don't need your xda account anymore
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I can't use a phone without pie controls. Comes in handywhen laying in the bed
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I miss being able to use better battery stats to follow wakelocks. I haven't had any real issues with wakelocks so far, but it really is just a matter of time.
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