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LG G4 battery discuss
As lg g4 have the same capacity of battery as the lg g3 however having a brighter display and more powerful processor just want to see weather this new flaship can standout in battery life. Read though some articles says that it has been a 20% increase in battery life than the lg g3 hope someone can share it??
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...-over-performance-with-new-g4-smartphone.html

Currently using LG G2 and bit disappointed when I see poorest battery result from G3 so skip and since than waiting for G4, I am Enthusiast photographer and using Nikon D7100 with costliest Sigma £596 for lens only with F1.8 fo it’s very interesting to see how £750 DSLR + £596 lens compared with G4 or P8 LOL, I know that recent techno is not even nearby DSLR quality, I would surely buy if Camera and battery of G4 perform better than Huawei P8, I don't believe or worry much in benchmarks figure as most of them are not noticeable in real life, As I don't play high graphics intense game, I believe LG must have done through test before choosing 808 and if it for better battery life against figures than I prefer Battery life, I am absolutely pleased with performance, Screen quality, Earphone sound of G2 if it would have been released exact thing in recent time I would still prefer to buy, When I see S6 live particularly in gold/silver colour it seems to me as really overdone and cheap design, it remind me things when in 2010-11 when lot of folks specially girls prefer to put shiny and mirror looking screen protector in from of their iPhone so they do makeup on the go, S6 is less than evolution and glass and reflective things is not a big achievement or breakthrough BTW it’s subjective matter and I know more crowd following iPhone/Samsung trend than LG but I don't want to join unwise and hypnotized crowd, I think design wise P8 is better than S6 but still can't decide which one look better P8 or G4?

So, plastic/carbon or leather?
What's your choice?
Why?

finish my contract beginning of June. Last LG phone I had was the LG Chocolate(I think it was called this). Looked at the HTC One M9 but really want a bigger screen(5.5" is ideal). Samsung does not appeal to me at all, wife had way to many issues with her SGS3, Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S. The camera on the LG G4 sounds pretty impressive for a phone camera, and I really like the idea of the leather back(will have to see it in person first though). Love that it has SD card, removable battery, what sounds like a fantastic screen. Not fussed too much about the processor like some are. As long as it is smooth I am not really worried about it. I love my M7 but it is really feeling very small now even compared to my wife's Z3. Only potential issue I will have is with the UI. Never had an Android LG phone. What is the UI like compared to HTC? Anyone had both?

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finish my contract beginning of June. Last LG phone I had was the LG Chocolate(I think it was called this). Looked at the HTC One M9 but really want a bigger screen(5.5" is ideal). Samsung does not appeal to me at all, wife had way to many issues with her SGS3, Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S. The camera on the LG G4 sounds pretty impressive for a phone camera, and I really like the idea of the leather back(will have to see it in person first though). Love that it has SD card, removable battery, what sounds like a fantastic screen. Not fussed too much about the processor like some are. As long as it is smooth I am not really worried about it. I love my M7 but it is really feeling very small now even compared to my wife's Z3. Only potential issue I will have is with the UI. Never had an Android LG phone. What is the UI like compared to HTC? Anyone had both?
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The G3 is still considered a "top notch" device. The improvements to this iteration are NOT minimal. Like the G3 before it, cell manufactures will be playing the catch up game...again.

Hey Tonystark, have you had(or still have) the G3? Have you played around with a HTC One(any iteration) ? How did you find Sense compared to LG's skin? Having only had a Sense skin on my phones since the HTC Desire(original) I am very curious as to the differences. None of my friends have any LG's so cannot compare myself.
I must add that HTC's have a superb dev team in Viper. Had them on my phone since my Evo3D. What is the development like on LG's?

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Hey Tonystark, have you had(or still have) the G3? Have you played around with a HTC One(any iteration) ? How did you find Sense compared to LG's skin? Having only had a Sense skin on my phones since the HTC Desire(original) I am very curious as to the differences. None of my friends have any LG's so cannot compare myself.
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It's like trying to caompare apples and bananas
While most everyone knows sense (or has at least viewed it), LG's interface is more comparable to that of touchwiz. LG has some great app's and it's interface is fluid. What I didn't like about sense (out of the box) was home-screen and blinkfeed and nothing else. This has all changed now, with the M9.
It seems with my LG I didn't mind using the stock UI. On the other hand with most HTC devices (I owned,) I would be quick to install Nova Launcher.

How will the rest keep up with the likes of this

Custom Roms / Kernels
I know the device is not out yet to test, but we may have big issues with Rooting and Custom recoveries on the G4. Right now, the trick to installing custom recoveries is to flash an older KitKat aboot partition that is Bumped. Newer firmwares have patched this exploit and I do not think any progress has been made on the issue.
Even my Nexus 7 requires such practices to get a custom recovery on it.
Without having a KitKat device, we may be stuck with stock for some time. Food for thought before purchasing.

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I know the device is not out yet to test, but we may have big issues with Rooting and Custom recoveries on the G4. Right now, the trick to installing custom recoveries is to flash an older KitKat aboot partition that is Bumped. Newer firmwares have patched this exploit and I do not think any progress has been made on the issue.
Even my Nexus 7 requires such practices to get a custom recovery on it.
Without having a KitKat device, we may be stuck with stock for some time. Food for thought before purchasing.
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Apparently there's a "No Downgrade" method available for G3... not sure of the internals, but hopefully it could work similarly for G4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/d855-one-click-root-twrp-recovery-t3072767

That is ridiculously good. Admittedly I am coming from a 4 ultra pixel purple tinted camera, but I and really, really impressed. I had a chance to see some of the UI too which looked ok. Thanks for posting that video I am now sold. Incredible really. I am now sold on it.

Why are so many hating on the leather? I keep reading posts to the "hands on reviews" that the leather is atrocious and screen doesn't compare to Samsung.
I am loving the leather and the screen!

i personally find leather in any form very odd on a smartphone, whether real, faux, textured or whatever. but it's certainly nothing to be upset or hateful about.
if this thing can be rooted on ATT then my 3 year long replacement search for my S3 is over!

waiting & watching closely. good luck to the devs! if i can't root it then it's an M9 for me. which isn't really the plan...

leroybrute said:
Why are so many hating on the leather? I keep reading posts to the "hands on reviews" that the leather is atrocious and screen doesn't compare to Samsung.
I am loving the leather and the screen!
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I haven't read anything negative about the leather or the screen by anyone who wasn't a troll or Samsung fanboy. The reviews I've read have said that the leather is the way to go and it looks much better in person than in pictures. I have T-Mobile and I'll be getting the brown leather version and getting a couple more backs later to use interchangeably, just because I can.
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You'll have haters in anything.
Haters gonna hate.
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We're dealing with a generation of people who are more obsessed with showing off and talking down others rather than being content with what they have, all while failing to realize that most people around them either don't care or aren't impressed by their choice of phone.

VR32 said:
i personally find leather in any form very odd on a smartphone, whether real, faux, textured or whatever. but it's certainly nothing to be upset or hateful about.
if this thing can be rooted on ATT then my 3 year long replacement search for my S3 is over!
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Haha! Upset or hateful? May have an issue with your comment, but not for the reason of my post. Just starting a conversation is all.
That is what I feel about glass on the back. Seems silly to me.
But I think it would be pretty cool to have the stitched leather in my shirt pocket where I keep my phones. The raised stitching would protect the camera some also.

player911 said:
I know the device is not out yet to test, but we may have big issues with Rooting and Custom recoveries on the G4. Right now, the trick to installing custom recoveries is to flash an older KitKat aboot partition that is Bumped. Newer firmwares have patched this exploit and I do not think any progress has been made on the issue.
Even my Nexus 7 requires such practices to get a custom recovery on it.
Without having a KitKat device, we may be stuck with stock for some time. Food for thought before purchasing.
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My nexus 7 still does fastboot flash recovery*recovery.img just fine. What ate you referring to?

TonyStark said:
It's like trying to caompare apples and bananas
While most everyone knows sense (or has at least viewed it), LG's interface is more comparable to that of touchwiz. LG has some great app's and it's interface is fluid. What I didn't like about sense (out of the box) was home-screen and blinkfeed and nothing else. This has all changed now, with the M9.
It seems with my LG I didn't mind using the stock UI. On the other hand with most HTC devices (I owned,) I would be quick to install Nova Launcher.
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Funny I really like Blinkfeed. And I am going to miss it. As a big HTC fan HTC let me down this year. And my eyes are on the G4.
I saw a port of Blinkfeed on the G3. Let's hope a developer will port it to the G4
I really like the leather. And I can't wait to read the reviews on the camera. Because that's a big thing for me now.

With software and hardware optimizations its looking to have 31% better battery life give or take a couple percent. Have to take into account the screen and processor efficiency. I'm waiting for reviews with general use as well as screen on time

My honest review of LG G4 (updated with photos)

So my LG G4 is with me for more than 2 weeks now and I had the time to root it first with Low Effort then with official unlock.
Coming from a long history of HTC phones and a short period of S6 I will try to be as honest as possible with my review of the G4.
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The LG G4 I bought came with both leather (black) and gold plastic(silver in reality) covers. Of course using the leather cover gives it a more premium look while the ''gold'' one is more heavy duty. I am using the plastic one for days of gym and other sports, while the leather one is for casual days like going to diners, dating...
Ok even with the leather you won't reach the high levels of premium feeling an HTC M9 can give but it's easily better looking than the S6 back glass and ugly face, also thanks to the fact the battery cover can be opened and replaced you won't have to babycare your phone with additional covers,bumpers...
I am planning to get the red burgundy color as it's more special and vibrant than both black and brown colors.
The screen is slightly curved as well as the back, it's good for handy use but the plastic cover will be a little slippery while the leather one will bounce left and right if you put it on a table and try to write a message for example, due to the extra sewing in the middle of the back.
The sides are very nice with a titanium effect that looks way more durable than the Note 4 chromes.
So all and all the design is pretty nice and the phone doesn't feel cheap specially with the leather back.
Screen:
The G4 sports a big 5.5'' screen with 1440p resolution. This is one of the main reason I switched from the M9, I had sometimes troubles reading fonts with my near sighted vision problems without glasses.
The screen on G4 is simply splendid! it's more vivid than M9, way better viewing angles and nearly closed amoled blacks. The details are amazing as expected thanks to the 1440p resolution and the high contrast ratio, I have faced zero problem reading text without glasses and playing games are a real pleasure.
Sunlight visibility is slightly better than M9 which was already very good.
The advantage of this LCD is that you won't face the amoled known burn-in problems as well as the S6 board traces under sunlight and the infamous pink tint.
So to conclude, the G4's screen is simply the best smartphone screen of 2015 as it has very high resolution, very high contrast and very good viewing angles without any problem known on other phones.
Some people faced touchscreen problems on their G4 but they claimed the latest FW updates (10f and newer) fixed it.
Sound Quality:
Sound quality and volume are important for me, specially coming from the best in that field HTC M8 and M9. I use my smartphone as audio source for my car stereo pairing it with the HTC stereoclip module (BT to AUX) or AUX, and of course for sports (gym,skiing,...) using my HifIman RE272 or my Sony SBH50.
Let's begin with the main speaker: it's very loud! Louder than both speakers on the M9, quality wise it's way superior to the Note 4 and louder than S6. The speaker is at the back but because it's curved it won't get muffled on most surfaces.
Out of the box the G4 has pleasant sound quality over my earphones hifiman RE272, the soundstage is very good but it lacks some bass, as for volume loudness it's perhaps 1-2 steps under what I would like as max volume. Weirdly enough using the BT option, the loudness is way better and even louder than the M9's BT.
Thanks to Root, using Viper4android boosting volume and equalizer I can finally reach a very satisfactory volume level and the lacking bass is fixed, some roms like Marcosuper7 have already a boosted volume.
BT in my car is pretty loud and sound quality (aptx + BT 4.0) is as good as AUX, while AUX (with root advantages) will produce even louder sound.
Conclusion: I am not missing the HTC sound quality and loudness, the G4 just need root and V4A to reach high quality sound and volume.
User Interface:
The G4 has Android 5.1 out of the box, the UI is fluid and lagless, the double tap to wake and sleep are very cool, the smartnotice widget is cool (though will cover half your wallpaper), it's much better build than Touchwiz and is closer to HTC Sense logic and added value.
One of the thing I hated on the S6 was the lack of automatic connecting BT, when I used car apps with the S6 I had to manually pair it everytime I went in my car, with the G4 like with the M9 it will autoconnect to the HTC Stereoclip, added to that I successfully run the HTC Car app on the G4 which is for me the best Car app on Android.
I can install the Sense 7 port which is as fluid as on M9 but I losed the double tap to sleep feature.
I am using the HTC gallery app instead of LG stock one as it's also better structured.
Conclusion: I was afraid the G4 UI was poor compared to Sense but it's finally very good and I can add some apps from Sense to make it perfect.
Camera:
One of the main feature that people liked in the G4 is the camera...and they are not wrong!
It has a 16mp sensor with f1.8 and OIS meaning great low light photos, compared to M9 low light photos are miles better, they have less obvious noises (the M9 used to have big yellow ones in very low light) and details are much better, compared to S6 it's sometimes as good and sometimes slightly better.
In daylight the G4 is equal to S6 in Auto mode meaning very good, but like with the M9 you can use RAW and increase much more details.
The advantage of the G4 is that it has a great dynamic range, so you won't have to use the HDR thingy too much (like on M9).
Macro shots are fantastic with the G4 and it produces natural bokeh due to the f1.8, though because the focus is very limited on macro shots due again to f1.8 if you don't want the bokeh effect you will have it anyway.
Lightroom will produce vignette if you open DNG photos directly, so it's better to use the Cornerfix software with the G4 profile given by vincent2167 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61360315&postcount=314 then open it with Lightroom.
In conclusion the G4 is easily on the top 2 camera of 2015 with the S6
Some samples:
Macro, low light no flash:
Macro, low light flash:
HDR:
Battery:
All 2015 Android flagship phones are suffering from the same not so good battery life, the S6,M9 and G4 will not give you more than 24h battery with normal use and 80 to 100% brightness.
The M9 I had was better than S6 and the G4 won 30mins more SOT over the M9.
I had 3.5 hours SOT with M9 and now 4 hours with the G4, but as said before it's not as good as a 2014 Z3 that have over 6 hours SOT.
In another hand all these 3 2015 phones have the Quick Charging 2.0 feature, meaning much faster charging time.
The G4 is not only compatible with this feature but it's clearly faster than M9 to charge from 0 to 100%.
I took nearly 1 hour and 20 minutes on M9 and now 50 minutes on G4 :good::good:
Of course it's better to alternate between QC 2.0 charger and the normal one for the battery lifetime.
You can also buy an extra battery as you just have to open the back cover, an advantage you won't have on M8,M9,S6,Note5...
Conclusion:
Did I finally made the right choice in swapping my M9 with the G4? Absolutely yes!
I don't miss the M9 at all, the G4 has a better screen, better camera, on par audio quality (earphones) with root, very nice design thanks to the leather and curvatures, well done UI, no faulty materials (it looks like the touchscreen problem some faced was only a software bug).
For me I can easily say the G4 is the king of 2015 in Android world (and all smartphones if you hate ios like me).
The S6 is a very good flagship too but it has build faults like board traces, very slippery back, very fragile glass back...and of course the ugly touchwiz.

I agree. I didn't take S6 because of no Raw, no manual mode as G4, no SD Card, and specially bad Ram Management !

May I ask which version of the phone you purchased and where you got it from? Also which carrier you are using it on?
I'm thinking of ordering one of the unlocked H815 models off Amazon to use on AT&T.

Was going to ask you
vegetaleb said:
Did I finally made the right choice in swapping my M9 with the G4? Absolutely yes!
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The S6 is a very good flagship too but it has build faults like board traces, very slippery back, very fragile glass back...and of course the ugly touchwiz.
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what is a 'board trace' ?

One Twelve said:
Was going to ask you
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what is a 'board trace' ?
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Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/weird-lines-s6-screen-t3124664
Oh I forgot to talk about the pink tint of the majority of S6 screens too that you won't have on G4

zook388 said:
May I ask which version of the phone you purchased and where you got it from? Also which carrier you are using it on?
I'm thinking of ordering one of the unlocked H815 models off Amazon to use on AT&T.
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I got the NDL H815 version not branded

LG's UI is definitely not lag free.
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barondebxl said:
LG's UI is definitely not lag free.
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Which version of the phone did you have? I've heard that the US carrier versions have worse lag.

zook388 said:
Which version of the phone did you have? I've heard that the US carrier versions have worse lag.
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I had the H815T. I don't deal with the US carriers, my network is cricket so I buy all my phones outright. That version of the G4 did lag quite a bit. Like exiting an app and starting to swipe though the home screen it would stutter 70% of the time. Then you have the touchscreen responsiveness issues. Don't wanna even speak about that.
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barondebxl said:
I had the H815T. I don't deal with the US carriers, my network is cricket so I buy all my phones outright. That version of the G4 did lag quite a bit. Like exiting an app and starting to swipe though the home screen it would stutter 70% of the time. Then you have the touchscreen responsiveness issues. Don't wanna even speak about that.
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The touchscreen issue that some people faced is already fixed since 10f, you can't blame LG if your carrier didn't release the update yet
All OS have micro lags, it all depends on the apps you are running in the background, though I tried Note 4 for example and found it really laggy, like 3 seconds to open the app drawer

vegetaleb said:
The touchscreen issue that some people faced is already fixed since 10f, you can't blame LG if your carrier didn't release the update yet
All OS have micro lags, it all depends on the apps you are running in the background, though I tried Note 4 for example and found it really laggy, like 3 seconds to open the app drawer
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That excuse doesn't make any sense. Every time someone talks about lags in a device, other say that every devices lag. I bet you you can't compare the lag in the G4 to whatever you may define as lag in the iPhone or the HTC One M8.
Those stutters in the G4 are not micro stutters.
I can't blame LG? They're the ones who shipped the phone that way no?
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barondebxl said:
That excuse doesn't make any sense. Every time someone talks about lags in a device, other say that every devices lag. I bet you you can't compare the lag in the G4 to whatever you may define as lag in the iPhone or the HTC One M8.
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My rooted G4 with animations disabled is way faster than waiting on the animations that can't be disabled on the iPhone.

oldjackbob said:
My rooted G4 with animations disabled is way faster than waiting on the animations that can't be disabled on the iPhone.
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That's great. A jailbroken iPhone can speed up the animations as well. You didn't know that though....
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barondebxl said:
That's great. A jailbroken iPhone can speed up the animations as well. You didn't know that though....
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Believe me the iphones also lags, at least on Android phones like G4 you can change launchers, I said in my review you can install the Sense 7 port on G4 and get the exact same speed and lagless feeling than on M9.
Also ALL manufacturers without any exceptions release flagships with bugs, but the thing is that they iron out these bugs in the weeks or months that follow, LG fixed the touchscreen issue some G4 had. I used to have extreme heat on my M9 out of nowhere but they reduced it in later FWs, though there is an horrible screen wake lag when you open the dot view cover that could reach 4 seconds and I don't know if they fixed it yet.
There is something a little annoying with the G4 though I dunno if it's a Windows 10 thingy, there are some files in the G4's memory I can't see in windows explorer! When I download a torrent file with Vuze and come in Windows to see it, it won't show up at all.

barondebxl said:
That excuse doesn't make any sense. Every time someone talks about lags in a device, other say that every devices lag. I bet you you can't compare the lag in the G4 to whatever you may define as lag in the iPhone or the HTC One M8.
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Or a nexus or droid turbo or the xperias on tricked out roms.
Those stutters in the G4 are not micro stutters.
I can't blame LG? They're the ones who shipped the phone that way no?
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You are saying you can't handle it because you've got addicted to speed. Can't do without it now. Must root, jailbreak whatever.
But you will always be the slowest link. the device is waiting on your lag 99.99% of the time
Skins are always going to have these issues so ppl say give me a thin one, well there are vendors out there that do that. If what they offer meets your requirements great. But i find that does not happen often. so more choice means chances are better you get what you want.
Why are you on a G now ? its a good device but bit of a come down isn't it.

One Twelve said:
Or a nexus or droid turbo or the xperias on tricked out roms.
You are saying you can't handle it because you've got addicted to speed. Can't do without it now. Must root, jailbreak whatever.
But you will always be the slowest link. the device is waiting on your lag 99.99% of the time
Skins are always going to have these issues so ppl say give me a thin one, well there are vendors out there that do that. If what they offer meets your requirements great. But i find that does not happen often. so more choice means chances are better you get what you want.
Why are you on a G now ? its a good device but bit of a come down isn't it.
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No my friend no. You are making your own conclusion based on nothing really. I'm not making the lag up, I have used a lot of phones and I mean a lot. I just know good performance vs not that great performance. Compared to the M8 and the iPhone for example, the G4 stutters quite a bit. That is a fact. Now if you wanna deny that then its ok but its there. And I disagree that skins will always have these issues cause again, the M8 is one of the speediest Android devices out there and it runs with sense on top. It's about the UI and its optimizations.
I am using the Moto G3 until the IPhone is released of the nexus. Maybe the Moto X pure edition, we will see.
Keep in mind, I owned the G4, I also owned the S6, IPhone 6 and 6 plus and many other high and devices. The G4 doesn't perform as well as any of those devices in my opinion. It's a fast device that stutters more than it should.
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LG G4
After reading this　much clear　to know　the　LG G4, maybe 8 years ago when i walked on the street found　full　of LG ADS on my side. Honest　speaking Apply, Susamg knocked　the　off　LG, it's a　pity. however ,　i like　the　appearance!

I had the S6 too and it was slightly more laggy than the G4, I come from an HTC M9 which is the fastest phone out there in terms of UI, the G4 is perhaps just 5% slower using the LG launcher but again (and this is why you are here in XDA) once you use a launcher like Sense 7 port (thanks xpirt) it's as fast as on M9 meaning fastest UI speed possible in 2015.
People having lags on G4 have obviously branded G4 with additional bloatwares

G4 does not lag at all with me, QHD screen and no lag, so it's very cool... I put animation to x0.5, that's perfect.
My phone is unbranded
How you can get Sense 7 on the G4 ?

Great review. I agree with you completely. The best phone I've ever used.
I'm wondering where you find the HTC Car app. When I go to the Play store nothing shows up from HTC when I type that in.
Richard

Got my G5 Yesterday

The production is flawless. I really like it. Here were my concerns before it arrived:
1) It would be defective (antenna showing, dust under the camera lens, etc.: *It was perfect, no blemishes.
2) WiFi calling wouldn't work (I don't use it but others said it wasn't working at all on their Sprint phones). *I had to go thru the setup twice and the second time it worked fine.
3) The screen would look washed out. *It's bright and vibrant. I wonder if the store model wasn't a production model.
4) The fingerprint scanner would be too annoying to reach. *This complaint is valid. It sort of defeats the purpose having it on the back when it's on my desk all day.
5) Battery life. *Haven't had it long enough to verify how good it is.
6) Laggy. *Nope, it's blazing fast.
7) Regretting not getting the S7 or S7 Edge. *No regrets yet, I love the price point on the G5.
Hope this is helpful, feel free to ask more questions.

Same here mate. Had the same concerns but mine its immense and blemish free. Funnily enough I had an s7 before this, and it doesn't even come close

That let me sleep so much better! My Pre-Ordered G5 is coming between the 15th and 18th April. I get a Silver One with free Cam Plus Module... Hope there are no building issues, I'm one of the First in Germany who gets one... :fingers-crossed:

Nice man. I wouldnt pay for cam plus i think but would have loved a free one. Hope its fun.
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Just got my G5 yesterday in UK and I have few issues The gap between the battery and device is un even on the right side and have some backlight bleed on top and bottom of the screen :crying:

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Nice man. I wouldnt pay for cam plus i think but would have loved a free one. Hope its fun.
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Gives at all 4000mah of Battery Size. That's really nice for free, and I love to take Photos with a Hardware Key like on the Xperias from Sony I'm really happy about my Pre-Order. But...
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Just got my G5 yesterday in UK and I have few issues The gap between the battery and device is un even on the right side and have some backlight bleed on top and bottom of the screen :crying:
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When I read this I could cry... UK is close to Germany... Can you give it back to get a new One? :fingers-crossed:

Miustone said:
Gives at all 4000mah of Battery Size. That's really nice for free, and I love to take Photos with a Hardware Key like on the Xperias from Sony I'm really happy about my Pre-Order. But...
When I read this I could cry... UK is close to Germany... Can you give it back to get a new One? :fingers-crossed:
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Yes but gonna trade for a different device don't want another G5 don't get me wrong it's a great phone but nothing special too many build issues for me and I believe there is no unlocked bootloader so this phone not for me will trade it for a S7 Edge performance wise exynos is way better and has a bigger batter

Miustone said:
Gives at all 4000mah of Battery Size. That's really nice for free, and I love to take Photos with a Hardware Key like on the Xperias from Sony I'm really happy about my Pre-Order. But...
When I read this I could cry... UK is close to Germany... Can you give it back to get a new One? :fingers-crossed:
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Dont worry about the gap. You have to look for it to care. And tru that about the greater battery and hardware button. Again, id be psyched if they'd thrown one in for me.
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Dont worry about the gap. You have to look for it to care. And tru that about the greater battery and hardware button. Again, id be psyched if they'd thrown one in for me.
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The gap isn't an issue but when you pay lots of money for something you'd expect better quality.. Anyways like I say it's a great phone can't knock the hardware just needs some small improvements/refinements and it'll be perfect :good:

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The gap isn't an issue but when you pay lots of money for something you'd expect better quality.. Anyways like I say it's a great phone can't knock the hardware just needs some small improvements/refinements and it'll be perfect :good:
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I picked up the Galaxy S7 Edge and I've been playing with it and comparing it to the G4. Camera photography is hit or miss. Obviously the G4 and G5 (since they have the same sensor specs) will capture more detail (16mpx vs 12mpx) but G5 will have better front facing camera, awesomely neat wide angel.
S7E has VERY good low light... I mean VERY good low light! Huge differences when I take night time shots!
But ... Samsung has its flaws as well. I'm not going to cancel my G5 pre-order, I want to get my hands on it. But Samsung S7E is def. a very good, long lasting device in terms of battery life - let's see how the G5 is in the end! If I get a flawed G5 I'll be disappointed, but I'll ask for another and if that one comes back flawed, I'll keep the S7E as my own personal device.
But I really hope it isn't as bad as some people say here.

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I picked up the Galaxy S7 Edge and I've been playing with it and comparing it to the G4. Camera photography is hit or miss. Obviously the G4 and G5 (since they have the same sensor specs) will capture more detail (16mpx vs 12mpx) but G5 will have better front facing camera, awesomely neat wide angel.
S7E has VERY good low light... I mean VERY good low light! Huge differences when I take night time shots!
But ... Samsung has its flaws as well. I'm not going to cancel my G5 pre-order, I want to get my hands on it. But Samsung S7E is def. a very good, long lasting device in terms of battery life - let's see how the G5 is in the end! If I get a flawed G5 I'll be disappointed, but I'll ask for another and if that one comes back flawed, I'll keep the S7E as my own personal device.
But I really hope it isn't as bad as some people say here.
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Yeah but the processing on g5 is hit and miss too so would be good to see some proper comparisons against S7E, As for battery on G5 I got 3-4 sot in less then 24hrs guess will improve over time but as of now not very impressed 2014 flagships can beat this lol, Just watch for Led backlight bleed if you have it you'll see on first boot or put a black image on screen and go in a dark room and check the corners and side lots of units got this fault, It's not a bad device I think with the right modules and some development i.e kernels etc should be a great phone but i'm digging the S7 way more feels amazing in the hand very premium <3 Plus the exynos chip is very optimised if you watch against the SD820 variant destroys it apart from gaming adreno gpu is boss Just the price of the S7E kills me lol
Not trying to push anyone away from the phone just my experience with it

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Yeah but the processing on g5 is hit and miss too so would be good to see some proper comparisons against S7E, As for battery on G5 I got 3-4 sot in less then 24hrs guess will improve over time but as of now not very impressed 2014 flagships can beat this lol, Just watch for Led backlight bleed if you have it you'll see on first boot or put a black image on screen and go in a dark room and check the corners and side lots of units got this fault, It's not a bad device I think with the right modules and some development i.e kernels etc should be a great phone but i'm digging the S7 way more feels amazing in the hand very premium <3 Plus the exynos chip is very optimised if you watch against the SD820 variant destroys it apart from gaming adreno gpu is boss Just the price of the S7E kills me lol
Not trying to push anyone away from the phone just my experience with it
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Price is only 45 euros more for the S7E here in Spain.
Camera is much worse than my G4 ...
Check these out:
Picture of my shoe, same distance. Color on the G4 is far more accurate. Detail is much higher (look at the button next to the shoe lace). I zoomed out of the G4 image to be able to be almost identical to the S7E picture.
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In the next picture, color on the S7E is SO washed out, it really changed what the wall looks like. Color is also VERY washed out. That is not a "blue sky"...
I'm very unimpressed with what Samsung offered in terms of well lit pictures.
On the other hand, here is a night shot. Samsung DESTROYED the G4, but then again, G4 is older... And S7E has better low light camera. Either way... Both were taken max aperture (10 sec for Samsung, 30 for LG), 50 ISO, both mounted on tripods. Also these are the best of maybe 4 or 5 images.
I hope this has helped anyone who is very happy with good shooters. I just think that Samsung doing a good job, but not compared to LG in most regular shots. Colors are washed out, details are missing, over sharpened.... Meh... Not impressed, honestly ... On the other hand, night shots are SUPERB on the Samsung, but this is only my 3rd time shooting at night - 99.999% of my shots are daytime or indoor. If the S7E had a better or same camera as the G5, I might have just kept it, but I know I'm going to return it after I test the G5 and S7E side by side (like this images). Best shooter (quality, speed, battery life) will be my next device
Oh, if people are interested, I can test out G4, G5 and S7E images. I have a bunch of G4 and S7E side by sides already, so if anyone wants them let me know and I can publish some information and details about them.

Thank you for the pictures, I would like to see more side by side comparisons if you please.

Have the g5 build quality is good but i do have backlight bleed
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Moving from the Edge to the LG G5

I'm considering getting the G5 instead of the S7 for two reasons.
First, a little back story. I've had the S7 since the day it came out. I was fortunate enough to be eligible for an upgrade after having lost my LG G3 in a snowfield while doing some back country snowboarding. The G3's performance was great for me, plus I had an 8500mah battery on it, which allowed me to go days without a recharge. The drawback was that it was monolithic in bulk.
I often go out into the back country to snowboard; battery life is key. With the G5, there's the likelihood of a module that expands battery life. Failing that, I can get extra batteries to take with me. So, reason one: exchangeable/expandable batteries.
Secondly, and slightly related to my first point, is root. Without root on the S7 Verizon version, I'm unable to pare down bloatware, use Greenify, and switch ROMs to something more suitable or preferable than the factory options. Rooting a phone has the benefit, in my experience, of extending battery life simply by limiting what's running at any given time.
The one thing that's got me on the fence is the waterproof/dustproof feature of the S7 line. I may actually be able to find my old G3 this summer when I hike the area where I lost it. It's unlikely, but possible. The benefit being that I can recover my memory card... I am not disillusioned enough to think that it'll actually function after being saturated by springtime snow melt, and long term frozen conditions. (Man, that'd be a great testament to the LG hardware if it did, no?)
Anyway, I am willing to listen to any counter arguments to my decision before I go through with this. I'm meeting a guy at the VZW store this afternoon. He's going to inspect my phone, then buy a G5 for me right then and there if it's acceptable. It should be, given that it's been in a case and had a screen protector on it since day one.

Lg g5: is truly not worth it. DOA. Moreover snapdragon version is locked as well. I sent mine back. If anything look at HTC 10.
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Don't do it. Don't be that "from s7 edge to G5 to s7 edge" guy.... Please don't.
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The g5 has way lower brightness (100% on the g5 is dimmer then 50-60% on the s7 edge). Worse build quality, worse battery and it looks ugly as hell (probably subjective). Oh and no waterproofing like you mentioned. The htc 10 looks to be much better in pretty much every aspect, I actually regret getting the s7 edge over it. The g5 is probably the worst flagship that came out this year.

lvnatic said:
The g5 has way lower brightness (100% on the g5 is dimmer then 50-60% on the s7 edge). Worse build quality, worse battery and it looks ugly as hell (probably subjective). Oh and no waterproofing like you mentioned. The htc 10 looks to be much better in pretty much every aspect, I actually regret getting the s7 edge over it. The g5 is probably the worst flagship that came out this year.
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The aesthetics of the G5 do not bother me. I'm a functionality over form sort of person, as I inferred above by mentioning my massive 8500mah battery and my requirement for long periods away from civilization. I do agree that the Samsung hardware is better manufactured, and the form is far more appealing, but if it doesn't meet my core needs, I'm going to be unhappy.
That being said, I hadn't considered the HTC 10 as an option. I will read up on it and see whether it will suit my needs. Thanks for mentioning it.
One thing about brightness, even on the lowest brightness, the S7 is annoyingly luminescent at night. When I wake up and want to check my phone, it doesn't dim low enough for me.

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Don't do it. Don't be that "from s7 edge to G5 to s7 edge" guy.... Please don't.
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Useless reply.

markwebb said:
Lg g5: is truly not worth it. DOA. Moreover snapdragon version is locked as well. I sent mine back. If anything look at HTC 10.
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Thanks, I am going to take a look at the HTC 10. I appreciate your input.

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Thanks, I am going to take a look at the HTC 10. I appreciate your input.
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Haha. You're welcome.
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1. battery bank, your friends will thank you
2. there's app out there that allow you to disable every service running on the phone without root, its a shame you're on verizon otherwise the international s7 works on att/tmo and that has root.
3. yes waterproofing is nice as borat would say

peachpuff said:
1. battery bank, your friends will thank you
2. there's app out there that allow you to disable every service running on the phone without root, its a shame you're on verizon otherwise the international s7 works on att/tmo and that has root.
3. yes waterproofing is nice as borat would say
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1. What the heck does "battery bank" mean? I know what a physical battery bank is, and how to wire one up, but how's that relevant? All apps related to the name are scammy looking.
2. I installed the app to disable crap on the phone. Marginal improvement. Yes, I know the Exynos version is rootable.
3. I like.

sangandongo said:
1. What the heck does "battery bank" mean? I know what a physical battery bank is, and how to wire one up, but how's that relevant? All apps related to the name are scammy looking.
2. I installed the app to disable crap on the phone. Marginal improvement. Yes, I know the Exynos version is rootable.
3. I like.
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Use your phone as a battery bank, jesus. Do some research.
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Biggest mistake of 2016 happening right here, people!
With the G5, there's the likelihood of a module that expands battery life. Failing that, I can get extra batteries to take with me. So, reason one: exchangeable/expandable batteries.
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That's not going to happen. The whole "Friends" add-ons are DOA, so just ignore them. The B&O DAC for the G5? Yeah, North America won't get that, and the non-US modules won't even work with your US G5 even if you order one from Europe or whatever.
It's not waterproof, the battery is smaller, the screen is worse, the build quality is worse.. It's like downgrading from a Porsche to a Toyota. Don't get me wrong, the Toyota will serve you well for a long time, but it's like... WHY would you do that? "I don't like this high-end product, so I'm going to get the worse option." The better thing to do instead would be to get the Exynos version of the Edge, but that would depend on your current carrier (if it supports it).
The HTC 10 on the other hand is a better choice, but still not as overall good as the Edge. The Edge is at top right now when it comes to smartphones. It's the king, and whatever you decide to get instead will be a downgrade. That's just how it is right now. Samsung did a really great job with it, and you're about to do something stupid.

J.Biden said:
Biggest mistake of 2016 happening right here, people!
That's not going to happen. The whole "Friends" add-ons are DOA, so just ignore them. The B&O DAC for the G5? Yeah, North America won't get that, and the non-US modules won't even work with your US G5 even if you order one from Europe or whatever.
It's not waterproof, the battery is smaller, the screen is worse, the build quality is worse.. It's like downgrading from a Porsche to a Toyota. Don't get me wrong, the Toyota will serve you well for a long time, but it's like... WHY would you do that? "I don't like this high-end product, so I'm going to get the worse option." The better thing to do instead would be to get the Exynos version of the Edge, but that would depend on your current carrier (if it supports it).
The HTC 10 on the other hand is a better choice, but still not as overall good as the Edge. The Edge is at top right now when it comes to smartphones. It's the king, and whatever you decide to get instead will be a downgrade. That's just how it is right now. Samsung did a really great job with it, and you're about to do something stupid.
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Thanks. I backed out of the trade. Incidentally, I did the Porsche to Toyota "downgrade." .
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1. What the heck does "battery bank" mean? I know what a physical battery bank is, and how to wire one up, but how's that relevant? All apps related to the name are scammy looking.
2. I installed the app to disable crap on the phone. Marginal improvement. Yes, I know the Exynos version is rootable.
3. I like.
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That's what i meant a physical battery bank, 20k mah in size should charge the phone 5 times or so compared to carrying an extra battery. If you can carry extra batteries then you can carry a large battery bank, kinda defeats the purpose of "i must have removable batteries" imo.

Exxxynos version can be bought in Canada unlocked is rootable
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You would be so foolish not to get HTC 10 over g5

We all get to choose the phone that best meets our individual needs. If a replaceable battery is critical for the OP, that makes the G5 his only choice among top end phones. Personally, I'm not impressed by the G5, but that's me.
But for the specific concerns listed. The US S7e will probably never be rooted, so if that's truly critical get something else. I'm not sure the 5 is the answer for that, either, though.
As far as battery goes, while I think that phones should, in general, have a replaceable battery, an external battery pack is a viable substitute, especially if you don't need it all the time. There are even wireless ones that power the phone through the Qi coil.

Good luck with the lego phone, bye. This thread never happened and i never replied.

You better go with LG G4 instead of LG G5 if you insist on LG hehe.
But really, nothing can beat Galaxy S7 Edge, including HTC 10:
1. Best Display on planet.
2. Waterproofing
3. Awesome Battery life
4. Super-sexy phone.
5. The best smartphone camera with the fastest focus on smartphones.
6. If you need more just ask...

Was looking to give my edge back for the G5... after playing with the g5 so glad am sticking with my baby. Great battery life waterproof and brilliant design and most of all the phone is sexy like me... and the g5 battery not that great.
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anyone considering the s8?

Really the only thing interesting to me about the s8 is battery life because of the 835, although TouchWiz historically is a hog and form factor being a little smaller than the G6. Anyone else? The iris scanner is interesting but I'm not sure how it is faster than fingerprint. Could in theory use a JOD on it. The G6 is also more durable but the battery life doesn't look promising. They were so eager to beef up resolution but they just killed battery

It might have the 835 (or Exynos depending on region), but it also has a smaller battery than the G6.
The fact the Galaxy phones have AMOLED screens is a deal breaker for me, so I won't buy another as long as they are using that technology.

Will stick to LG only. Not going to the overrated Samsung

Samsung doing 3 months warranty replacement on S8. That's crazy marketing. I guess they have to build consumer trust again.
http://phandroid.com/2017/03/22/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-refund-return-period/
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I am now in the market for the S8, I hope VZW gets root. The G6 has a major lack of features - including something as universal as a notification LED.
I was HUGE LG fanboy. My whole family has their phones as I serve as their personal IT helper lol. G3, G4, G5. Not anymore. I still have my G3 running fulmics.
No replaceable battery, older CPU, lack of other feature sets and getting expensive. Maybe the V30 will address all of this. The S8 isn't perfect at all, but it sure looks like the winner of this round - 2017 edition.

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I am now in the market for the S8, I hope VZW gets root. The G6 has a major lack of features - including something as universal as a notification LED.
I was HUGE LG fanboy. My whole family has their phones as I serve as their personal IT helper lol. G3, G4, G5. Not anymore. I still have my G3 running fulmics.
No replaceable battery, older CPU, lack of other feature sets and getting expensive. Maybe the V30 will address all of this. The S8 isn't perfect at all, but it sure looks like the winner of this round - 2017 edition.
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You can't say you are considering the S8 if cost is a factor for discounting the G6....

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You can't say you are considering the S8 if cost is a factor for discounting the G6....
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Sure I can. The G6 has less features per dollar compared to the S8.

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Sure I can. The G6 has less features per dollar compared to the S8.
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Depends what features you want I guess. The S8 has nothing I want over the G6.

Features dont always equal superiority.

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Samsung doing 3 months warranty replacement on S8. That's crazy marketing. I guess they have to build consumer trust again.
http://phandroid.com/2017/03/22/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-refund-return-period/
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Yea because once they go up in flames again, they'll need that easy refund window. lol
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MicroMod777 said:
Yea because once they go up in flames again, they'll need that easy refund window. lol
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Lol. Mind carry this around soon....
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The spec heads will be stuck on the 835 in the S8...as for me? I couldn't care less. Day to day performance will be indistinguishable between the two... If anything, the G6 will be snappier then the S8 unless Sammy has done some serious rework of touchwiz.

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Lol. Mind carry this around soon....
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Ya I might need that now! lol
So when this dang S8 comming out????
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I am now in the market for the S8, I hope VZW gets root. The G6 has a major lack of features - including something as universal as a notification LED.
I was HUGE LG fanboy. My whole family has their phones as I serve as their personal IT helper lol. G3, G4, G5. Not anymore. I still have my G3 running fulmics.
No replaceable battery, older CPU, lack of other feature sets and getting expensive. Maybe the V30 will address all of this. The S8 isn't perfect at all, but it sure looks like the winner of this round - 2017 edition.
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I agree. I've been using a G5 for about 4 months because my 2 year old Note 4 was dying, and the G5 was half-off. But overall, I liked my Note 4 more. Two things that kill the G6 for me is the lack of the LED Notification Light and still used LCD (but is said to be far better than the one on the G5).
But I'll have to see what the price difference is, as th G6 does for about $650-700, and if th S8 is pushing $200 more, that is a tough sell for me.

alexp999 said:
It might have the 835 (or Exynos depending on region), but it also has a smaller battery than the G6.
The fact the Galaxy phones have AMOLED screens is a deal breaker for me, so I won't buy another as long as they are using that technology.
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I hate AMOLED so much, especially the white colour temperature (slightly yellowish)... I really love the iPhone screen colour (and oh dear, I hate iOS). And the screen comes close to iPhone colour is LG's
Still using S7 Active (mainly for battery capacity), I'm looking forward to V30, hope it has bigger battery, at least 4000 as S7 Active. I'll buy one, immediately.
And by the way, android is lagging than iOS, but TouchWiz did make things worse than, I don't say LG framework is more beautiful, but compare my experience with many devices of both Samsung and LG (as well as other brands), Samsung has the laggier UI vs. LG (same processor and RAM)

My last Samsung device (Note 4) just recently died on me (wont turn on or charge) so no, im done with Samsung phones

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Yea because once they go up in flames again, they'll need that easy refund window. lol
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Only if you sign an NDA to say it never happened of course.
Going on from my previous post, as I'm in the UK I can't get SD835 version anyway. I'd rather have an SD821 than Exynos.

Is it just me or do the "metal" sides just look like cheap plastic?
In fact the whole thing looks plastic. I know it might be different in the hand, but it looks like the first few gens of Galaxy S (I had the 1st one).

After watching the presentation Im glad I went with the G6. I will get the Note 8 when it comes out but these curved screens just suck. I dont understand the purpose and it makes the device substantially more fragile. I will say though, DeX looks freakin awesome. The whole presentation was really odd and the people in the crowd at the end was creepy. Price wise I'd say they put it right where it belongs so kudos for not hitting that $1000 mark.

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After watching the presentation Im glad I went with the G6. I will get the Note 8 when it comes out but these curved screens just suck. I dont understand the purpose and it makes the device substantially more fragile. I will say though, DeX looks freakin awesome. The whole presentation was really odd and the people in the crowd at the end was creepy. Price wise I'd say they put it right where it belongs so kudos for not hitting that $1000 mark.
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Just looked at the first look of the phone. I also feel soo good going with the G6. I might be looking hopeful towards the note. Seems like the same aspect ratio of the g6 but curved display, which is terrible to protect and use. Fingerprint sensor is a joke, and bixby look very incapable as of yet compared to google now! WOW WOW WOW. Close call!